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[fineleg]

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/IND_ANTG-BARB_30-31MAY2006.html

India 126-3 at lunch as per cricinfo

Indians 1st innings                                             R   M   B  4 6
W Jaffer              run out (Daniel Thomas)                  52 108  98  8 0
V Sehwag              c sub (A Manlin)   b Sanford              6  30  16  0 0
VVS Laxman            not out                                  42 129  73  1 0
*R Dravid             c Athanaze         b Mathew               5   6   4  1 0
M Kaif                not out                                  17  44  54  2 0
Extras                (b 2, lb 1, w 1)                          4
Total                 (3 wickets, 41 overs)                   126


WI bowlers (most of them) very economical - as Indian batsmen are scoring at abt RR 3.0 per over.

[fineleg]

BTW, CAN WE AVOID a CARDINAL SIN in Test cricket?

of getting RUN-OUT in Test cricket? (run out in ODI is different).

In TESTS, very few situations mandate risky singles or twos. Mostly they can afford to run safe albeit being decently quick (not have to be express quick).
Important thing is communication between batsmen to avoid confusion.

Here, Wasim Jaffer is RUN-OUT on 52.

We dont want a RUN-OUT to an important batsman or a crucial partnership broken by Run-Out in The TESTS...wonder if they will pay enough attention to this?

Hope so.

[LosingNow]

What is with RD.. is the stress of captaincy "showing" on him?

[fineleg]

What is with RD.. is the stress of captaincy "showing" on him?

after the 100 in odi1 he hasnt scored. he is our #1 test bat, hope he finds touch soon.
if #1 bat struggles in test, its gonna be challenging.

[fineleg]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wivind/content/current/story/248978.html

Laxman, who came in at the fall of the first wicket and was yet to get off the mark on the first day, spent close to an hour-and-a-half at the crease for his 73-ball 42. Unusually, he had struck just one boundary in the course of his occupation of the crease.
<<seems like VVS is scoring in singles, thats alright for now - let him spend time in the middle, which is probably more important for him coz he has not played for a long, long time>>

Wasim Jaffer, in contrast with Laxman, was full of strokes and registered as many as eight boundaries in his 52. He was the second to go, run out, after putting on 66 for the second wicket with Laxman. Dravid replaced Jaffer but his stay at the crease was brief. After 5 from 4 balls, including a boundary, he gave S Mathew a wicket to cherish.


Mohammad Kaif, not in the best form of his life, kept Laxman company. He played as many as 54 balls for 17, including two boundaries as the Indians trail by 174 runs.

<<seems from this Kaif is scratching around a bit, but its OK for Test cricket if he can dig in and scratch and stay around for a longer time...for ODIs ofcourse S/R needs to be higher, but lets focus on the staying put and scoring for now>>

[fineleg]

Great - A mini-collapse of sorts...
India 232-7 (A&B scored 300!!!) - are we gonna fall short of A&B total!?

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/IND_ANTG-BARB_30-31MAY2006.html

Indians 1st innings                                             R   M   B  4 6
W Jaffer              run out (Daniel Thomas)                  52 108  98  8 0
V Sehwag              c sub (A Manlin)   b Sanford              6  30  16  0 0
VVS Laxman            c Joseph           b Athanaze            72 204 122  9 0
*R Dravid             c Athanaze         b Mathew               5   6   4  1 0
M Kaif                retired                                  53  44 127  5 2
SK Raina              c Joseph           b Martin               4  20  16  1 0
Yuvraj Singh          c Devon Thomas     b Athanaze            20  36  44  3 0
+MS Dhoni             not out                                   9  18  15  2 0
IK Pathan             not out                                   4   2   7  1 0
Extras                (b 5, lb 1, w 1)                          7
Total                 (7 wickets, 75 overs)                   232

[prfsr]

Great - A mini-collapse of sorts...
India 232-7 (A&B scored 300!!!) - are we gonna fall short of A&B total!?

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/IND_ANTG-BARB_30-31MAY2006.html

Indians 1st innings                                             R   M   B  4 6
W Jaffer              run out (Daniel Thomas)                  52 108  98  8 0
V Sehwag              c sub (A Manlin)   b Sanford              6  30  16  0 0
VVS Laxman            c Joseph           b Athanaze            72 204 122  9 0
*R Dravid             c Athanaze         b Mathew               5   6   4  1 0
M Kaif                retired                                  53  44 127  5 2
SK Raina              c Joseph           b Martin               4  20  16  1 0
Yuvraj Singh          c Devon Thomas     b Athanaze            20  36  44  3 0
+MS Dhoni             not out                                   9  18  15  2 0
IK Pathan             not out                                   4   2   7  1 0
Extras                (b 5, lb 1, w 1)                          7
Total                 (7 wickets, 75 overs)                   232

This may not be accurate. Look at Kaif's minutes and balls.
-P

[chetan]

Great - A mini-collapse of sorts...
India 232-7 (A&B scored 300!!!) - are we gonna fall short of A&B total!?

http://usa.cricinfo.com/db/NEW/LIVE/frames/IND_ANTG-BARB_30-31MAY2006.html

Indians 1st innings                                             R   M   B  4 6
W Jaffer              run out (Daniel Thomas)                  52 108  98  8 0
V Sehwag              c sub (A Manlin)   b Sanford              6  30  16  0 0
VVS Laxman            c Joseph           b Athanaze            72 204 122  9 0
*R Dravid             c Athanaze         b Mathew               5   6   4  1 0
M Kaif                retired                                  53  44 127  5 2
SK Raina              c Joseph           b Martin               4  20  16  1 0
Yuvraj Singh          c Devon Thomas     b Athanaze            20  36  44  3 0
+MS Dhoni             not out                                   9  18  15  2 0
IK Pathan             not out                                   4   2   7  1 0
Extras                (b 5, lb 1, w 1)                          7
Total                 (7 wickets, 75 overs)                   232

This may not be accurate. Look at Kaif's minutes and balls.
-P

also, VVS is shown to have hit 8 more fours but his score has increased by only 30

[fineleg]

I think there may be some issue with details like number of 4's, or minutes etc.
But, I think they may be getting the overall score and batsmen score more or less correct? Dont know.

Anyways, seems like a few of them have gotten some time in the middle.
Raina seems to have an off-color WI tour so far.

[fineleg]

Some account of how they got out:

Opener Wasim Jaffer had progressed serenely to 52 from 87 balls with eight fours when he responded to Laxman's call but could not beat the throw from square leg.
     
Rahul Dravid was the next batsman out when he cut and edged to the wicketkeeper for five runs.

[justforkix]

Take it easy guys. We also sucked in every f/c game down under in 2003/04 against sub-standard teams. Most importantly, the folks who needed to get runs got them, i.e., VVS, WJ, Kaif. Yuvi is among runs anyways. RD is a big-match player. who cares if he scores 0 in every practice game.

[dhruvdeepak]

looks like Dhoni had a party. we were 232-7 and he got us to 311-9 at the end of play. 60* off 78.

[fineleg]

looks like Dhoni had a party. we were 232-7 and he got us to 311-9 at the end of play. 60* off 78.

Looks like IP got out to a spinner, stumped. I've seen IP dance down a few times to get stumped to spinners (although when in touch he does club it)...seems like IP is in a bowling and batting slump.

Good that MSD is getting his shots going - we need those IP and MSD if our late order recoveries in the past few Test series are something to go by.

[squarecut]

looks like Dhoni had a party. we were 232-7 and he got us to 311-9 at the end of play. 60* off 78.

Looks like IP got out to a spinner, stumped. I've seen IP dance down a few times to get stumped to spinners (although when in touch he does club it)...seems like IP is in a bowling and batting slump.

Good that MSD is getting his shots going - we need those IP and MSD if our late order recoveries in the past few Test series are something to go by.

Fineleg, I wouldn't read too much into this one other than players like VVS/Kaif/Jaffer who needs sometime in the middle. All of them have decent outing. Why can't they do 3 day or 4 day match. 2 day is useless.

[fineleg]

looks like Dhoni had a party. we were 232-7 and he got us to 311-9 at the end of play. 60* off 78.

Looks like IP got out to a spinner, stumped. I've seen IP dance down a few times to get stumped to spinners (although when in touch he does club it)...seems like IP is in a bowling and batting slump.

Good that MSD is getting his shots going - we need those IP and MSD if our late order recoveries in the past few Test series are something to go by.

Fineleg, I wouldn't read too much into this one other than players like VVS/Kaif/Jaffer who needs sometime in the middle. All of them have decent outing. Why can't they do 3 day or 4 day match. 2 day is useless.

Yes, agree.
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