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[ruchir]

Baba ji, better stick to Yoga only...

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http://cricket.expressindia.com/worldcup/07/story.php?storyid=83888


Ban soft drink ads by cricketers: Ramdev

Press Trust of India
Posted online: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 at 2035 hours IST

Dhanbad, March 28: Yoga guru Ramdev demanded a ban on soft drink advertisements featuring cricketers after the Indian team's ouster from the preliminary round of the World Cup.

Ramdev, who arrived in Dhanbad to take part in a 6-day yoga camp, told a press conference: "India's ouster from the World Cup may have shattered the dream of sports lovers in the country but it benefited crores of children as far as their health is concerned." << >>

The children see cricketers as idols and try to follow in their footsteps, he said while urging the BCCI to bar cricketers from advertising ‘harmful’ soft drinks.

"Such advertisements will have a bad effect on the health of crores of children in the country," Ramdev claimed. <<You mean Ads where cricketer don't appear will not have bad effect on kids? Oh my god, what a yogic logic!! Truly divine.>>

He also advocated the introduction of yoga in schools rather than sex education.

[caught and bowled]

Whats wrong with babaji saying ban soft drink ads by cricketers....the kids get swayed by by them. I remember Pulela Gopichand refusing to endorse softdrinks on ethical grounds. All of us know how good the cokes and pepsis are for our children..

[sgusa]

Very true. These players should go to endorsing "Hum, Aap aur ... "

[dhruvdeepak]

Very true. These players should go to endorsing "Hum, Aap aur ... "

Bagpiper...........
Club Soda 

[dextrous]

Whats wrong with babaji saying ban soft drink ads by cricketers....the kids get swayed by by them. I remember Pulela Gopichand refusing to endorse softdrinks on ethical grounds. All of us know how good the cokes and pepsis are for our children..

I agree with you about soft drinks--so much sugar. It is unbelievably bad for you. I remember when I was growing up we would get it once in a while, after coming to America, I saw it is more popular than water with every meal! Luckily, I've stopped drinking it altogether.

[ramshorns]

Whats wrong with babaji saying ban soft drink ads by cricketers....the kids get swayed by by them. I remember Pulela Gopichand refusing to endorse softdrinks on ethical grounds. All of us know how good the cokes and pepsis are for our children..

Ditto.

[ruchir]

Nothing wrong with saying that Sodas are bad for kids. Whole world knows that.

My issue is with using the defeat in WC as an instrument in saying what could have been said otherwise too. Where was Ramdev BEFORE we lost in WC07? Soda Ads featuring cricketers were still being aired, right? Who knows, Baba may be drinking Coke himself!! But Lo, and behold; as soon as team lost, Ramdev comes out of woodwork and says that defeat will help children health because they will be disenchanted from drinks featuring cricketers. If his intention was to speak about Kids health, then Soda Ads have been screened for ages, have we seen any protest from Ramdev in past about Sodas?

Again, I have no problem in anyone saying that Sodas are bad for health. But to use WC defeat as stick to make the same point, it leaves a sour taste. If anything else, it shows a Yogi as an opportunist.

[ramshorns]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

[sgusa]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

BS on that Rams, dont think the Babaji was thinking that far. I agree with Ruchir on this one - more of pissing on the fallen!

[suraj]

I say....

Ban soda drink scotch (NEAT)

Indian kids will be the healthiest in the world

so there replace Ramdev CDs with suraj pranayam!!!

[sgusa]

I say....

Ban soda drink scotch (NEAT)

Indian kids will be the healthiest in the world

so there replace Ramdev CDs with suraj pranayam!!!

Red wine - Full of antioxidents!

[suraj]

I say....

Ban soda drink scotch (NEAT)

Indian kids will be the healthiest in the world

so there replace Ramdev CDs with suraj pranayam!!!

Red wine - Full of antioxidents!

oh you sissy alcholic

[sgusa]

I say....

Ban soda drink scotch (NEAT)

Indian kids will be the healthiest in the world

so there replace Ramdev CDs with suraj pranayam!!!

Red wine - Full of antioxidents!

oh you sissy alcholic

Nothing sissy about downing a couple of glasses of red with dinner my friend. The scotch comes later, before bed!

[proloy]

Red wine - Full of antioxidents!

Gangajal is better.

[ruchir]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

That can be one POV.

My point was that:

1. Why is WC loss the best time to get the point across? Would you wait for some famous personality to get AIDS, if you wanted to publicise that AIDS is dangerous? Even this example is not the best because here, a famous personality is affected by AIDS, a desease we want to warn people against. Cricket and Sodas are not likned at all, other than advertising angle. If you think a message is important, and you think you have the capabilities of getting it to people, then start working on getting it across. Don't wait for something big to happen and then use that even as clutches to get the message across.

2. If we think that when cricketers stop advertising Sodas, kids will reduce consuming them, then there should be a ban on ALL kind of advertising of Sodas just like there is on Alchohol and Tobacco. Why single out only criketers? What about Movie stars? They advertise Sodas too, right? Sodas don't become any less harmful when they are advertised by Movie stars. So, let us have a Alchohol/Tobacco kind of ban on Sodas.

3. Using WC07 loss to hammer a point, of Sodas being harmful, would be akin to "kicking when XYZ is down". Right? 

[teamindia]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

That can be one POV.

My point was that:

1. Why is WC loss the best time to get the point across? Would you wait for some famous personality to get AIDS, if you wanted to publicise that AIDS is dangerous? Even this example is not the best because here, a famous personality is affected by AIDS, a desease we want to warn people against. Cricket and Sodas are not likned at all, other than advertising angle. If you think a message is important, and you think you have the capabilities of getting it to people, then start working on getting it across. Don't wait for something big to happen and then use that even as clutches to get the message across.

2. If we think that when cricketers stop advertising Sodas, kids will reduce consuming them, then there should be a ban on ALL kind of advertising of Sodas just like there is on Alchohol and Tobacco. Why single out only criketers? What about Movie stars? They advertise Sodas too, right? Sodas don't become any less harmful when they are advertised by Movie stars. So, let us have a Alchohol/Tobacco kind of ban on Sodas.

3. Using WC07 loss to hammer a point, of Sodas being harmful, would be akin to "kicking when XYZ is down". Right? 

Ruchir,
Ramdev's attack on Cola is not new as you are thinking. He has always been against Colas and fast food. I have seen a few of his program on TV where he openly criticizes colas and fast food. And I think he is right in his campaign against it.
See the link below on one such article.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HA28Df03.html

[ramshorns]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

That can be one POV.

My point was that:

1. Why is WC loss the best time to get the point across? Would you wait for some famous personality to get AIDS, if you wanted to publicise that AIDS is dangerous? Even this example is not the best because here, a famous personality is affected by AIDS, a desease we want to warn people against. Cricket and Sodas are not likned at all, other than advertising angle. If you think a message is important, and you think you have the capabilities of getting it to people, then start working on getting it across. Don't wait for something big to happen and then use that even as clutches to get the message across.

2. If we think that when cricketers stop advertising Sodas, kids will reduce consuming them, then there should be a ban on ALL kind of advertising of Sodas just like there is on Alchohol and Tobacco. Why single out only criketers? What about Movie stars? They advertise Sodas too, right? Sodas don't become any less harmful when they are advertised by Movie stars. So, let us have a Alchohol/Tobacco kind of ban on Sodas.

3. Using WC07 loss to hammer a point, of Sodas being harmful, would be akin to "kicking when XYZ is down". Right? 

Ruchir,
Ramdev's attack on Cola is not new as you are thinking. He has always been against Colas and fast food. I have seen a few of his program on TV where he openly criticizes colas and fast food. And I think he is right in his campaign against it.
See the link below on one such article.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HA28Df03.html

Applause. Thanks for taking the time to post this teamindia(you should consider the moniker change after the dismal show).

[teamindia]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

That can be one POV.

My point was that:

1. Why is WC loss the best time to get the point across? Would you wait for some famous personality to get AIDS, if you wanted to publicise that AIDS is dangerous? Even this example is not the best because here, a famous personality is affected by AIDS, a desease we want to warn people against. Cricket and Sodas are not likned at all, other than advertising angle. If you think a message is important, and you think you have the capabilities of getting it to people, then start working on getting it across. Don't wait for something big to happen and then use that even as clutches to get the message across.

2. If we think that when cricketers stop advertising Sodas, kids will reduce consuming them, then there should be a ban on ALL kind of advertising of Sodas just like there is on Alchohol and Tobacco. Why single out only criketers? What about Movie stars? They advertise Sodas too, right? Sodas don't become any less harmful when they are advertised by Movie stars. So, let us have a Alchohol/Tobacco kind of ban on Sodas.

3. Using WC07 loss to hammer a point, of Sodas being harmful, would be akin to "kicking when XYZ is down". Right? 

Ruchir,
Ramdev's attack on Cola is not new as you are thinking. He has always been against Colas and fast food. I have seen a few of his program on TV where he openly criticizes colas and fast food. And I think he is right in his campaign against it.
See the link below on one such article.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HA28Df03.html

Applause. Thanks for taking the time to post this teamindia(you should consider the moniker change after the dismal show).

Thanks Rams. I should really change the moniker.  Anyways, the positive for me in the worldcup fiasco, is less time reading/watching cricket and more time for other things.

[ruchir]

Ruchir:I think Babaji's point is given the potential drop of popularity of the players owing to the WC loss this would be the best time to get across the message on the perils of high sugar/high calorie drinks to kids and one way to do it is to put a stop by restricting the players from endorsing soft drink related businesses.

That can be one POV.

My point was that:

1. Why is WC loss the best time to get the point across? Would you wait for some famous personality to get AIDS, if you wanted to publicise that AIDS is dangerous? Even this example is not the best because here, a famous personality is affected by AIDS, a desease we want to warn people against. Cricket and Sodas are not likned at all, other than advertising angle. If you think a message is important, and you think you have the capabilities of getting it to people, then start working on getting it across. Don't wait for something big to happen and then use that even as clutches to get the message across.

2. If we think that when cricketers stop advertising Sodas, kids will reduce consuming them, then there should be a ban on ALL kind of advertising of Sodas just like there is on Alchohol and Tobacco. Why single out only criketers? What about Movie stars? They advertise Sodas too, right? Sodas don't become any less harmful when they are advertised by Movie stars. So, let us have a Alchohol/Tobacco kind of ban on Sodas.

3. Using WC07 loss to hammer a point, of Sodas being harmful, would be akin to "kicking when XYZ is down". Right? 

Ruchir,
Ramdev's attack on Cola is not new as you are thinking. He has always been against Colas and fast food. I have seen a few of his program on TV where he openly criticizes colas and fast food. And I think he is right in his campaign against it.
See the link below on one such article.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/HA28Df03.html

Thanks for posting the link, TI. I stand corrected on Ramdev's prior involvement in this issue. Since I am not in India, I don't get to watch the TV programs. Anyways, my issue was not about him speaking against Sodas etc., it was just against the logic of using WC loss to highlight health issues. I find it similar to the argument that because Princess Diana died in a car crash, it means Mercedes-Benz is not a safe car.

[sgusa]

Red wine - Full of antioxidents!

Gangajal is better.

Gangajal is probably one of the most Yuckiest things you can drink these days! Shudder at the things that are floating in that river!