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[LosingNow]

Headlines Today discussing this.. awaiting details.

[netaji]

Very inappropriate - a collective decision should be represented collectively in public.  Everybody is talking to media too much these days.

[LosingNow]

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/dravid-wanted-sehwag-vengsarkar/23489-13.html
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New Delhi: Chairman of selectors Dilip Vengsarkar has revealed that Virender Sehwag could well have missed the World Cup in the West Indies had captain Rahul Dravid not insisted on his inclusion.


In an interview to CNN-IBN's Devil's Advocate, the former India captain told Karan Thapar that the selectors would not have picked Sehwag in the World Cup bound squad due to a prolonged form with the bat. Sehwag was stripped of vice-captaincy during India's tour to South Africa and was subsequently 'rested' in the series against West Indies in India.


Excerpts from the interview:


Karan Thapar: The man against whom perhaps they have the greatest question is of course Virender Sehwag. He hasn't scored a century since April 2005. In the last 15 innings he played he has made only 180 and his record over that in fact is an average of just 17.30. Many people say that in picking Sehwag you have allowed hope to triumph over experience.


Dilip Vengsarkar: I agree with you, but then again there are some players in the team who back Sehwag, because Sehwag I think has done exceedingly well in the past.


Karan Thapar: When you say some players in the team back Sehwag, are you suggesting that you were under pressure from the captain in particular?


Dilip Vengsarkar: Not under pressure as such, but then again I will always back the captain.


Karan Thapar: And the captain wanted Sehwag?


Dilip Vengsarkar: Definitely.


Karan Thapar: So that in a sense made the difference.


Dilip Vengsarkar: Yes.


Karan Thapar: If Rahul hadn't demanded Sehwag then there is a possibility that Sehwag might not have been there.


Dilip Vengsarkar: Definitely, I agree with you.


Vengsarkar took over as Chairman of selectors from Kiran More and has reinstated several experienced players who were out of favour for making the cut for the World Cup. But India's torrid run in the One-Dayers of late made the Colonel to fall back on experience.




Vengsarkar also clarified on Irfan Pathan's selection for the World Cup. "Both Irfan and Sehwag have fantastic records and they have done extremely well in the past. Form is important as well. But they have experience, which makes a lot of difference. If there are tight games, experience can win you matches."


He also justified the decision to appoint Sachin Tendulkar as the vice-captain of the side. "Rahul is an experienced player, so is Sachin. If something happens to Dravid, God forbid, Sachin can lead," he added.


The issue was not discussed with Dravid, he said.


On Greg Chappell, Vengsarkar said the Team India coach has done "reasonably" well and feels that the Australian should continue with the team even after the World Cup.


"He has been around for two years and I think he has done reasonably well. We won quite a few matches under him. It's upto the BCCI to decide but I would like to see him continue even after the World Cup," he said.


Vengsarkar said that he expects Team India to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the showpiece event and should take it from there. "We have the best batting order in the world and if they can go to the last four stage, it's anybody's game. I would be very, very disappointed if they don't reach the semi-finals."


"They just have to believe in themselves and think that they are the best in the world. I hope and I'm sure they will do well," he added.


Vengsarkar agreed that off-spinner Ramesh Powar was unfortunate to miss out on an opportunity. "He was unfortunate. Harbhajan (Singh) is doing well and (Anil) Kumble is a very experienced spinner. We could pick only two spinners. It's really bad luck. However, there are lot of matches after the World Cup and I'm sure he will get back into the team."


On omitting Mohammad Kaif from India's scheme of things, the former India skipper said, "If you see his form, he has not scored too many runs. Just good fielding is not enough, you have to bat well too."

[kban1]

Thanks LN for posting this

[dhruvdeepak]

awesome.
chief selector: i dont back the guy who is selected for the WC. he hasnt scored runs. its not my pick. i wash my hands of it.

[sudzz]

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/dravid-wanted-sehwag-vengsarkar/23489-13.html
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New Delhi: Chairman of selectors Dilip Vengsarkar has revealed that Virender Sehwag could well have missed the World Cup in the West Indies had captain Rahul Dravid not insisted on his inclusion.


In an interview to CNN-IBN's Devil's Advocate, the former India captain told Karan Thapar that the selectors would not have picked Sehwag in the World Cup bound squad due to a prolonged form with the bat. Sehwag was stripped of vice-captaincy during India's tour to South Africa and was subsequently 'rested' in the series against West Indies in India.


Excerpts from the interview:


Karan Thapar: The man against whom perhaps they have the greatest question is of course Virender Sehwag. He hasn't scored a century since April 2005. In the last 15 innings he played he has made only 180 and his record over that in fact is an average of just 17.30. Many people say that in picking Sehwag you have allowed hope to triumph over experience.


Dilip Vengsarkar: I agree with you, but then again there are some players in the team who back Sehwag, because Sehwag I think has done exceedingly well in the past.


Karan Thapar: When you say some players in the team back Sehwag, are you suggesting that you were under pressure from the captain in particular?


Dilip Vengsarkar: Not under pressure as such, but then again I will always back the captain.

Karan Thapar: And the captain wanted Sehwag?


Dilip Vengsarkar: Definitely.


Karan Thapar: So that in a sense made the difference.


Dilip Vengsarkar: Yes.


Karan Thapar: If Rahul hadn't demanded Sehwag then there is a possibility that Sehwag might not have been there.


Dilip Vengsarkar: Definitely, I agree with you.

Vengsarkar took over as Chairman of selectors from Kiran More and has reinstated several experienced players who were out of favour for making the cut for the World Cup. But India's torrid run in the One-Dayers of late made the Colonel to fall back on experience.




Vengsarkar also clarified on Irfan Pathan's selection for the World Cup. "Both Irfan and Sehwag have fantastic records and they have done extremely well in the past. Form is important as well. But they have experience, which makes a lot of difference. If there are tight games, experience can win you matches."


He also justified the decision to appoint Sachin Tendulkar as the vice-captain of the side. "Rahul is an experienced player, so is Sachin. If something happens to Dravid, God forbid, Sachin can lead," he added.


The issue was not discussed with Dravid, he said.


On Greg Chappell, Vengsarkar said the Team India coach has done "reasonably" well and feels that the Australian should continue with the team even after the World Cup.


"He has been around for two years and I think he has done reasonably well. We won quite a few matches under him. It's upto the BCCI to decide but I would like to see him continue even after the World Cup," he said.


Vengsarkar said that he expects Team India to qualify for at least the semi-finals of the showpiece event and should take it from there. "We have the best batting order in the world and if they can go to the last four stage, it's anybody's game. I would be very, very disappointed if they don't reach the semi-finals."


"They just have to believe in themselves and think that they are the best in the world. I hope and I'm sure they will do well," he added.


Vengsarkar agreed that off-spinner Ramesh Powar was unfortunate to miss out on an opportunity. "He was unfortunate. Harbhajan (Singh) is doing well and (Anil) Kumble is a very experienced spinner. We could pick only two spinners. It's really bad luck. However, there are lot of matches after the World Cup and I'm sure he will get back into the team."


On omitting Mohammad Kaif from India's scheme of things, the former India skipper said, "If you see his form, he has not scored too many runs. Just good fielding is not enough, you have to bat well too."

The bolded statements are plain wrong, If you agreed with the captain then dont come out and say you backed him when you did not and dont now but just want to paint an image of one not to blamed if things go wrong.

This is like a flight engineer stating after a crash that I knew that the engine was only 10% ok but I let the plane take off because the pilot wanted to...Eff you a'hole the whole reason why you are a selector is to ensure that you select the team that you and your team thinks is gonna win not to please the captain or anyone else...why is this guy no different from KM 

[LosingNow]

and the controversy continues..
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'Vengsarkar should not have said so'

CNN-IBN

Posted Mar 03, 2007 at 19:11 | Updated Mar 03, 2007 at 19:53

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New Delhi: The Chairman of the Selection Committee Dilip Vengsarkar has opened a can of worms by saying that skipper Rahul Dravid insisted on including Virender Sehwag in the World Cup squad.


However, Vengasarkar's statement has come in from sharp criticism form ex-players and officials of the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI).


"I think if I heard right then he (Vengsarkar) had said that he (Sehwag) had done well in the past and added to that was the captain's desire to have him in the team. I don't think there is anything wrong in that. I feel that once the team is selected it is proper for anyone to discuss the team selection in public," Secretary of BCCI Ratnakar Shetty said.


Former India player and former selector Yashpal Sharma seconded Shetty's views.



"Well, I feel that if the chief selector is saying then it is not right to do so as the team has been selected. If the captain wanted Virender Sehwag, what was the chief selector doing? He could have said no then and there because if he was not interested in Sehwag he could have said no to the team management. Without the consent of the selectors Virender Sehwag couldn't have gone to the West Indies," Yashpal Shyarma said


When asked if there is modal code of conduct for selectors, Shetty said: "I think there is a model code of conduct that applies to everyone, even to the selectors. It is a very sensitive issue. I only wish that Dilip Vengsarkar should have refrained himself from making such comments when the team has already left for such an important event which we all look forward to. Such types of comments, even if they are not meant to be, could create controversies. It shouldn't be like that."


BCCI Vice-President Rajiv Shukla, too, said it was not right on Vengsarkar's part to make the comments and that the officials should also abide by certain guideline while making any statements.


"It is the collective decision of the selection committee. When the committee meets, captain and coach are supposed to be there. It is a collective decision of all of them. In my view the Chairman of the Selection Committee should refrain from making such comments. This is silly as the whole process and the decision of the committee becomes controversial. So I think these kinds of statements should not be made. It is not that a code has been imposed on anybody but people should abide by the parameters. One should not flout by these guidelines which are already there," Shukla said.

[kban1]

Thanks jfk for providing the video link

Dont understand why Vengsarkar has to say anything now.

So Rahul wanted Shewag, you consented to it, whats there to talk about ?

what purpose does it serve than to put extra pressure on VS & RD ?

[justforkix]

Here is the Video Link:

http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/35048/dravid-wanted-sehwag-vengsarkar.html

Just a correction: The actual full interview is not out yet. It should be there in a day or two.

[OldPal]

After more it is VS now.
Why cant these figures in direct questions just say , we cant publicaly discuss what went inside the selection meeting.

[Libran]

A fuss about nothing...

How is what the colonel has said any different from the truth...The captain backed VS and the Selectors backed the captain.Period

Atleast he did not beat around the bush and project VS as an unanimous decision and was selected because he was a "bowling allrounder / batting allrounder"...and he has so far not put his foot in his mouth by stating that it is the end of x or y or z's career as long as he is Chairman...

So long as these stupid remarks are not made, it is fine...and the truth is that VS is there because of RD....

And do we want to get back to that mother of all Quotes " Indians cannot hear the truth"

But, colonel has balanced his interview with a guffaw ..."GC has done reasonably well as a Coach and that he must continue of the WC"

And how is it that the Board has become so sensitive to these all of a sudden...or does Ratnakar also want his time under the sun 

[toney]

Ravi,
I agree with you that the selector didnt have to paint rosy pictures about everything being unanimous decisions in the selection process. But to say that so and so player was selected because the captain wanted him or to suggest that he shouldnt have been there isnt a great move.

IMO, the Karnel is just continuing in the rich tradition established and preserved by his predecessors.

[Prafulla]

Well.. There are varius issues mixed up here. One presumption of media - VS is from Ganguly camp (like Bhajji / Yuvraj / Kaif etc) and had the rift with GC; second one that - RD is puppet of GC and has no say in team selection. RD proved it that, his cricketing decisions has nothing to do with media perception, but his own conviction. Should he believe that, VS is required on this long tour - so he backed his teammate. He is not a prejudiced soul to the extent that, he let internal politics decides about his cricketing decisions.

DV made a very general statement, but our TRP savvy media (and glued public) - presents everything beyond proportion. Even if it is the fact that VS was backed by RD - so what is wrong, if team members know that, their captain RD (unlike the soft tissue branding), can really stand up for them. It is good sign for the team. It will actually boost the morale/spirits of the team members. Leader must have his trusted army and army must as well trust its leader. Just like VS, RD has also stood for Great Kumble and it is a welcome sign.

No one can really be blamed for the talk by DV, except for media itself. They have become all of sudden, cricket expert ..and in fact, it is entering into its worst stage of evolution.

 BTW, Famous astrologer - KN Rao, in his talk on AAJ Tak - has said yesterday that - VS will have splendid performance in WC (contrary to media bully), along with SRT, RD, SG and MSD; and India will do very well at WC. These batsmen will prove to be match winner again in this WC.

So dear members, happy holi to you all and let us hope that cricket remains only a sport for us - where we enjoy it more.

[Libran]

Well.. There are varius issues mixed up here. One presumption of media - VS is from Ganguly camp (like Bhajji / Yuvraj / Kaif etc) and had the rift with GC; second one that - RD is puppet of GC and has no say in team selection. RD proved it that, his cricketing decisions has nothing to do with media perception, but his own conviction. Should he believe that, VS is required on this long tour - so he backed his teammate. He is not a prejudiced soul to the extent that, he let internal politics decides about his cricketing decisions.

DV made a very general statement, but our TRP savvy media (and glued public) - presents everything beyond proportion. Even if it is the fact that VS was backed by RD - so what is wrong, if team members know that, their captain RD (unlike the soft tissue branding), can really stand up for them. It is good sign for the team. It will actually boost the morale/spirits of the team members. Leader must have his trusted army and army must as well trust its leader. Just like VS, RD has also stood for Great Kumble and it is a welcome sign.

No one can really be blamed for the talk by DV, except for media itself. They have become all of sudden, cricket expert ..and in fact, it is entering into its worst stage of evolution.

 BTW, Famous astrologer - KN Rao, in his talk on AAJ Tak - has said yesterday that - VS will have splendid performance in WC (contrary to media bully), along with SRT, RD, SG and MSD; and India will do very well at WC. These batsmen will prove to be match winner again in this WC.

So dear members, happy holi to you all and let us hope that cricket remains only a sport for us - where we enjoy it more.

And Daruwalla in Headlines Today talked of india ending up at 2 or 3  and Aus will be 1....so much for our TV channels ....in the age of science and Informatin technology...tarrot card readers, numerologists, astrologers et all are ruling the roost

[Prafulla]

Little off the subject - but KN Rao is different league compared to many jokers in astro chat shows. He is serious and one of the most accomplished astrologer. And best part that - he has charts of many of these players (where most of publicly available birth data are not reliable).
RD rose in his career from late 1999 in his venus dasha and period of 7/8 months from aug 99 was bad and likely to be injury time. There was big debate on his chart in various astro groups, where it was unlikely that, he might even be fit to play. SG, being leo lagna native will certainly have better times - specially for next 45 days - when his yoga graha mars aspecting saturn for next 30/40 days. VS's chart - I do not have- so little comments can be offered. But yes, his difficult period of Ketu was on in year 2006  onwards. RD still looks to me, suspect to injury.

[sudzz]

Little off the subject - but KN Rao is different league compared to many jokers in astro chat shows. He is serious and one of the most accomplished astrologer. And best part that - he has charts of many of these players (where most of publicly available birth data are not reliable).
RD rose in his career from late 1999 in his venus dasha and period of 7/8 months from aug 99 was bad and likely to be injury time. There was big debate on his chart in various astro groups, where it was unlikely that, he might even be fit to play. SG, being leo lagna native will certainly have better times - specially for next 45 days - when his yoga graha mars aspecting saturn for next 30/40 days. VS's chart - I do not have- so little comments can be offered. But yes, his difficult period of Ketu was on in year 2006  onwards. RD still looks to me, suspect to injury.

Did you miss a smiley there?

[Libran]

I am watching this interview and find it a very honest expression of opinion by DV...If one goes thru' the entire interview, the VS part is just a small thing that the media as is expected blowing things out of proportion. He has a lot of good words for the Indian team

[kban1]

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/282342.html

Chairman of selectors under fire

Indian board comes down hard on Vengsarkar

Cricinfo staff

March 4, 2007

The Indian board has taken strong exception to a remark by Dilip Vengsarkar, the chairman of selectors, regarding Virender Sehwag's inclusion in India's World Cup squad. Vengsarkar was quoted by a news channel on Saturday as saying that the out-of-form Sehwag was selected only because of the insistence Rahul Dravid, the Indian captain .

"When I was leading India, I never got the team I wanted and I didn't want Rahul to go through the same. He insisted on having Sehwag and that made the difference." The board said it wasn't proper for the chief selector to make such statements and that such remarks could only lead to fresh controversies ahead of India's World Cup campaign in the Caribbean.

"It is not right to comment on team selection now," said Ratnakar Shetty, the chief administrative officer of the board. "I wish Vengsarkar had refrained from making such comments at a time when the team had already left for the showpiece event. The Code of Conduct applies to everybody, players and selectors."

Rajiv Shukla, the vice-president of the board, echoed the same sentiment: "The chairman of the selection committee should not make such a remark. It creates unnecessary controversy before the Cup. He should refrain from making such statements. The team is selected by the five selectors in consultation with the captain and coach. Selection issues should not come out in the open."

Vengsarkar admitted Sehwag did not feature in the initial scheme of things due to his prolonged run-drought but enjoyed backing from some quarters in the team. "It was a bit of gamble [to have him in the side] ... but I think he has done extremely well in the past. Besides, he has won a lot of matches for India. We are hoping that he would do well in the World Cup."

He backed Irfan Pathan, another player selected despite being out of form, and hoped he would come good in the next few weeks. "Both Irfan and Sehwag have fantastic records and they have done extremely well in the past. Again, form is important as well. But they have experience, which makes a lot of difference. If there are tight games, experience can win you matches."

Vengsarkar also justified the decision to appoint Sachin Tendulkar as the vice-captain of the side. "Rahul is an experienced player, so is Sachin. If something happens to Dravid, God forbid, Sachin can lead." He added that Greg Chappell had done a "reasonable" job as coach and felt he should continue with the team even after the World Cup.

[cricinfo]

LKP back with vengeance 

‘Is it a crime to back the captain?’
- Sehwag-confirmation upsets BCCI, but Vengsarkar asks... 
LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI
 
Vengsarkar 
Calcutta: It’s hardly a state secret that Virender Sehwag made the World Cup squad only because captain Rahul Dravid wanted him. So, nobody really ought to take umbrage if selection committee chairman Dilip Vengsarkar confirms that in a TV interview.

The squad was selected in Mumbai on February 12 and The Telegraph’s own report had begun in the following manner: “Virender Sehwag has to thank captain Rahul Dravid for ensuring he boards Team India’s West Indies-bound flight in the early hours of March 1...”

Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) vice-president Rajeev Shukla, though, has taken exception. That, apparently, is the Establishment’s reaction as well. Strange, for it’s better to have an honest chief selector instead of one who schemes behind-the-scenes and misleads in public.

“The chairman of the selection committee should not make such a remark. It creates an unnecessary controversy before the World Cup,” is what Shukla (a Congress member of the Rajya Sabha) said on Saturday.

One understands BCCI secretary Niranjan Shah may “caution” Vengsarkar and ask him not to reveal anything which is supposed to be “confidential.”

However, no such call had been made by the time we contacted Vengsarkar on Sunday afternoon. The former captain was reluctant to speak, but did raise a pertinent point: “Is it a crime to back the captain? If the chief selector won’t do so at selection committee meetings, then who will?”

Vengsarkar refused to add a word, insisting he didn’t want to “get caught” in a controversy with the World Cup just days away.

Significantly, the public still doesn’t know that when coach Greg Chappell seemed to “question” Sehwag’s attitude at that selection meeting, Vengsarkar (according to well-placed sources) advised him to “make an effort and sort things out” in the dressing room.

In other words, Vengsarkar’s approach is constructive. Of course, unlike some predecessors, he’s straight-forward. We need more of his ilk.

[inoc]

Little off the subject - but KN Rao is different league compared to many jokers in astro chat shows. He is serious and one of the most accomplished astrologer. And best part that - he has charts of many of these players (where most of publicly available birth data are not reliable).
RD rose in his career from late 1999 in his venus dasha and period of 7/8 months from aug 99 was bad and likely to be injury time. There was big debate on his chart in various astro groups, where it was unlikely that, he might even be fit to play. SG, being leo lagna native will certainly have better times - specially for next 45 days - when his yoga graha mars aspecting saturn for next 30/40 days. VS's chart - I do not have- so little comments can be offered. But yes, his difficult period of Ketu was on in year 2006  onwards. RD still looks to me, suspect to injury.

Did you miss a smiley there?

this means SRT will lift the WC.
and here is the smiley

[ramshorns]

Little off the subject - but KN Rao is different league compared to many jokers in astro chat shows. He is serious and one of the most accomplished astrologer. And best part that - he has charts of many of these players (where most of publicly available birth data are not reliable).
RD rose in his career from late 1999 in his venus dasha and period of 7/8 months from aug 99 was bad and likely to be injury time. There was big debate on his chart in various astro groups, where it was unlikely that, he might even be fit to play. SG, being leo lagna native will certainly have better times - specially for next 45 days - when his yoga graha mars aspecting saturn for next 30/40 days. VS's chart - I do not have- so little comments can be offered. But yes, his difficult period of Ketu was on in year 2006  onwards. RD still looks to me, suspect to injury.

Applause for breaking this down for whatever it is worth.  I give you credit for the insight.  Things can easily be lost on this DG when unless the emphasis is not on 2 or 3 individuals.

[keep-it-cool]

Very silly on DV's part, I think, to go on record saying that VS was picked only because RD insisted. Also, his take on GC's performance as a coach has to be strictly considered as his individual viewpoint ... at least he qualified it by saying that it is in the hands of the board to decide whether GC should indeed continue.

The point is not about whether DV's views are right or wrong, or whether he is doing a good job as selector .. the point is that he is a person holding a responsible position. He should watch what he is saying. Just as KM goofed up several times while addressing the media, DV also seems to be doing the same thing over and over again ... the tendency to pass on instructions or messages through the media - first to Munaf, then to Irfan, now to god knows who - is just not on. Just as I thought when KM was chief selector, I think the BCCI needs a media savvy spokesperson who will do all the talking that has to be done ...

P.S. I agree with his view that GC has done a reasonable job and should continue after the WC!

[cricinfo]

Very silly on DV's part, I think, to go on record saying that VS was picked only because RD insisted. Also, his take on GC's performance as a coach has to be strictly considered as his individual viewpoint ... at least he qualified it by saying that it is in the hands of the board to decide whether GC should indeed continue.

The point is not about whether DV's views are right or wrong, or whether he is doing a good job as selector .. the point is that he is a person holding a responsible position. He should watch what he is saying. Just as KM goofed up several times while addressing the media, DV also seems to be doing the same thing over and over again ... the tendency to pass on instructions or messages through the media - first to Munaf, then to Irfan, now to god knows who - is just not on. Just as I thought when KM was chief selector, I think the BCCI needs a media savvy spokesperson who will do all the talking that has to be done ...

P.S. I agree with his view that GC has done a reasonable job and should continue after the WC!

beg to differ ....DV  at least is not playing mumbo-jumbo game....he just sticks to what he says and is consistent ....whereas  KM keept on changing his stories every other day .whatver it is one thing about DV is he does not give crap to media or public....we know what he really means ...good or bad is a different matter

[keep-it-cool]

Very silly on DV's part, I think, to go on record saying that VS was picked only because RD insisted. Also, his take on GC's performance as a coach has to be strictly considered as his individual viewpoint ... at least he qualified it by saying that it is in the hands of the board to decide whether GC should indeed continue.

The point is not about whether DV's views are right or wrong, or whether he is doing a good job as selector .. the point is that he is a person holding a responsible position. He should watch what he is saying. Just as KM goofed up several times while addressing the media, DV also seems to be doing the same thing over and over again ... the tendency to pass on instructions or messages through the media - first to Munaf, then to Irfan, now to god knows who - is just not on. Just as I thought when KM was chief selector, I think the BCCI needs a media savvy spokesperson who will do all the talking that has to be done ...

P.S. I agree with his view that GC has done a reasonable job and should continue after the WC!

beg to differ ....DV  at least is not playing mumbo-jumbo game....he just sticks to what he says and is consistent ....whereas  KM keept on changing his stories every other day .whatver it is one thing about DV is he does not give crap to media or public....we know what he really means ...good or bad is a different matter

well, i am not comparing DV's public speaking skills with KM's here. Of course, DV comes across better in media interviews ... KM did not. My point is that this should not be their job. Their job should be to select the team. I am peeved at DV's passing on messages to players through the media.

[Libran]

Just reconstruct the interview and this is what DV says

1. The captain backed a player
2. We,as a selection committee backed the captain
3. There were thoughts that VS is a match winner and it would be a good gamble to have him in the team
4. His experience would come in handy and we were willing to take that call and stand by the captain's call on this
5. In the event of the captain not pushing his case, VS may not have found a place in the team

What is the issue here? To me it is a simple case of the media making much ado about nothing and the BCCI 'stalwarts' jumping in for their bit of the limelight.....

And let's be clear..... DV will not take credit if VS clicks and he will not rubbish RD if VS fails....

[suraj]

Just reconstruct the interview and this is what DV says

1. The captain backed a player
2. We,as a selection committee backed the captain
3. There were thoughts that VS is a match winner and it would be a good gamble to have him in the team
4. His experience would come in handy and we were willing to take that call and stand by the captain's call on this
5. In the event of the captain not pushing his case, VS may not have found a place in the team

What is the issue here? To me it is a simple case of the media making much ado about nothing and the BCCI 'stalwarts' jumping in for their bit of the limelight.....

And let's be clear..... DV will not take credit if VS clicks and he will not rubbish RD if VS fails....

I am pretty sure ravi's breakdown wud have been entirely different if you replace DV with KM and VS with SG

[ramshorns]

Just reconstruct the interview and this is what DV says

1. The captain backed a player
2. We,as a selection committee backed the captain
3. There were thoughts that VS is a match winner and it would be a good gamble to have him in the team
4. His experience would come in handy and we were willing to take that call and stand by the captain's call on this
5. In the event of the captain not pushing his case, VS may not have found a place in the team

What is the issue here? To me it is a simple case of the media making much ado about nothing and the BCCI 'stalwarts' jumping in for their bit of the limelight.....

And let's be clear..... DV will not take credit if VS clicks and he will not rubbish RD if VS fails....

I am pretty sure ravi's breakdown wud have been entirely different if you replace DV with KM and VS with SG

LOL.....

[ramshorns]

Very silly on DV's part, I think, to go on record saying that VS was picked only because RD insisted. Also, his take on GC's performance as a coach has to be strictly considered as his individual viewpoint ... at least he qualified it by saying that it is in the hands of the board to decide whether GC should indeed continue.

The point is not about whether DV's views are right or wrong, or whether he is doing a good job as selector .. the point is that he is a person holding a responsible position. He should watch what he is saying. Just as KM goofed up several times while addressing the media, DV also seems to be doing the same thing over and over again ... the tendency to pass on instructions or messages through the media - first to Munaf, then to Irfan, now to god knows who - is just not on. Just as I thought when KM was chief selector, I think the BCCI needs a media savvy spokesperson who will do all the talking that has to be done ...

P.S. I agree with his view that GC has done a reasonable job and should continue after the WC!

beg to differ ....DV  at least is not playing mumbo-jumbo game....he just sticks to what he says and is consistent ....whereas  KM keept on changing his stories every other day .whatver it is one thing about DV is he does not give crap to media or public....we know what he really means ...good or bad is a different matter

well, i am not comparing DV's public speaking skills with KM's here. Of course, DV comes across better in media interviews ... KM did not. My point is that this should not be their job. Their job should be to select the team. I am peeved at DV's passing on messages to players through the media.

Why not????As a matter of fact I am planning to come out with DV's gems just like More's gems or Kapils gems's.

[Libran]

Just reconstruct the interview and this is what DV says

1. The captain backed a player
2. We,as a selection committee backed the captain
3. There were thoughts that VS is a match winner and it would be a good gamble to have him in the team
4. His experience would come in handy and we were willing to take that call and stand by the captain's call on this
5. In the event of the captain not pushing his case, VS may not have found a place in the team

What is the issue here? To me it is a simple case of the media making much ado about nothing and the BCCI 'stalwarts' jumping in for their bit of the limelight.....

And let's be clear..... DV will not take credit if VS clicks and he will not rubbish RD if VS fails....

I am pretty sure ravi's breakdown wud have been entirely different if you replace DV with KM and VS with SG

Obvious isn't it....DV makes sense...KM ne'er did....replace anyone and keep DV the constant and my views would not change ..Happy ??

[Libran]

Can't understand some members on this DG...the grouse was that we ne'er supported the Chairman of Selectors....and now when we do, it is not appreciated....

Damn if you do...damn if you don't.... 

[keep-it-cool]

DV shoots off through the media far more than he ought to.