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PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« on: January 23, 2007, 10:09:54 PM »
http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/jan/22kbc.htm

PP is all gushy and gooey for SRK in the new KBC.


However in another review on Rediff, all is not good SRK...

http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/jan/23srk.htm




Hhmmm.... SRK is looking extreemly satisfied, while the other guy is having a sheepish grin (Satish Kaushik style). Is this what the new KBC is all about  ???  Huggy, huggy... kissy, kissy....
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 10:28:22 PM »
What BS is this? rediff is fast converting into a movie journal rather than a news portal.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 10:33:31 PM »
K JO effect.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 10:45:49 PM »
FLUTE --

To be fair, Rediff has always tried to be a complete information site. They always had sections for News, Movies, Cricket, Sports, Shopping, Matchmaker etc.

You should look at Rediff as a site that provides you everything in one place, not just a news and sport site.

It is another thing that the quality of stuff written on their site has been going down consistently.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 11:11:14 PM »
FLUTE --

To be fair, Rediff has always tried to be a complete information site. They always had sections for News, Movies, Cricket, Sports, Shopping, Matchmaker etc.

You should look at Rediff as a site that provides you everything in one place, not just a news and sport site.

It is another thing that the quality of stuff written on their site has been going down consistently.
ruchir, I understand they have to cover everything, but there is limit, beyond which you turn being a tabloid without serious content. Rediff is fast approaching that limit IMO. you can report on movies and publish reviews, but to resort to sensanalizing the entertainment related news, try to createnon-existent hype etc. is the task of a tabloid.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 11:19:02 PM »
You can say whatever.. they are the #1 portal in India .. and frankly, to continue to grow, they have to go downmarket.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 01:57:55 AM »
I frankly can't stand the design. Too much text at once.

And when there's a decent Indian newspaper site without 100 popups, please let me know. So freaking annoying.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2007, 03:14:03 AM »
im watching KBC right now. will give a little review soon
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2007, 03:51:02 AM »
its a good show. SRK is not an imposing figure like Big B, and he knows this. instead he has a friendly manner, cracks jokes and has fun. a totally different feel from when Big B hosted. IMO that version of host that Big B portrayed wore off and became ineffective after the first couple of seasons, and something new was needed.

reviews of the first show ystday were good and this is good educational tv, i am glad there are stars to back it and bring in the viewership.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2007, 04:01:49 AM »
http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/jan/22kbc.htm

PP is all gushy and gooey for SRK in the new KBC.


However in another review on Rediff, all is not good SRK...

http://ia.rediff.com/movies/2007/jan/23srk.htm




Hhmmm.... SRK is looking extreemly satisfied, while the other guy is having a sheepish grin (Satish Kaushik style). Is this what the new KBC is all about  ???  Huggy, huggy... kissy, kissy....


Obvious question to you Ruchir. Please take your time. Imagine Inzy hosting KBC.
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2007, 04:05:49 AM »
And when there's a decent Indian newspaper site without 100 popups, please let me know. So freaking annoying.
Now the most sensible thing I heard in a while.  
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« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2007, 04:21:07 PM »
And when there's a decent Indian newspaper site without 100 popups, please let me know. So freaking annoying.
Now the most sensible thing I heard in a while.   
Agree with you two. Use Mozilla, block pop-ups, things should be fine. Rediff has this creepy habit where yyou have an ad in between the home page and a specific news item. No way to get rid of that. And all the big guys including NYT do it too. Can't blame them for it. But the difference is that NYT shows the ad only once per visit, rediff shows it on every click from the home page.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2007, 04:27:04 PM »
BTW, I can't understand why SRK is so popular. He is one of the ugliest among Bollywood heroes, overacts in every scene and has none of the aura of a Bachchan.
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« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2007, 04:39:10 PM »
BTW, I can't understand why SRK is so popular. He is one of the ugliest among Bollywood heroes, overacts in every scene and has none of the aura of a Bachchan.

He is popular among Bachchan fans because he makes Bachchan look even better!!!

I am divided abt SRK- I like the SRK of "Kabhi haan kabhi naa", "Maya Memsaab" and "Swadesh" (where he underplayed to perfection) But just detest the overdramatic performances in the Chopra and Johar movies
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2007, 04:45:27 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
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« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 06:42:41 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
toney, agree with you about SRK. it just beats me no end that he is such a huge deal, don't know what the fuss is about. he just repeats the same expressions movie after movie, same smile, same wrinkled forehead thing etc. he was good when he originally debuted but now is just annoying.

as for BigB, have to disagree with you. Bacchan is an entertainer to the core and I always like his presence on the screen, primarily because of his charisma and voice etc. But, I don't rate him very high in terms of acting.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 06:59:52 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
toney, agree with you about SRK. it just beats me no end that he is such a huge deal, don't know what the fuss is about. he just repeats the same expressions movie after movie, same smile, same wrinkled forehead thing etc. he was good when he originally debuted but now is just annoying.

as for BigB, have to disagree with you. Bacchan is an entertainer to the core and I always like his presence on the screen, primarily because of his charisma and voice etc. But, I don't rate him very high in terms of acting.

In terms of pure acting skills Kamal Hassan, Aamir Khan, Naseer, Om Puri etc rank up there
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« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 08:50:51 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
toney, agree with you about SRK. it just beats me no end that he is such a huge deal, don't know what the fuss is about. he just repeats the same expressions movie after movie, same smile, same wrinkled forehead thing etc. he was good when he originally debuted but now is just annoying.

as for BigB, have to disagree with you. Bacchan is an entertainer to the core and I always like his presence on the screen, primarily because of his charisma and voice etc. But, I don't rate him very high in terms of acting.
Amitabh can overact..depending on "his mood"...but he is a very good actor. I think he gives in(or does not intervene in) to the director's wishes.
The serious person in Kabhi Kabhi, the joker in Namak Halal, the drunk scene in front of mirror in AAA, the mausi scene in Sholay ..are scenes that immediately come to mind, where his natural acting abilities come to the fore.
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« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 09:31:52 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
toney, agree with you about SRK. it just beats me no end that he is such a huge deal, don't know what the fuss is about. he just repeats the same expressions movie after movie, same smile, same wrinkled forehead thing etc. he was good when he originally debuted but now is just annoying.

as for BigB, have to disagree with you. Bacchan is an entertainer to the core and I always like his presence on the screen, primarily because of his charisma and voice etc. But, I don't rate him very high in terms of acting.
Amitabh can overact..depending on "his mood"...but he is a very good actor. I think he gives in(or does not intervene in) to the director's wishes.
The serious person in Kabhi Kabhi, the joker in Namak Halal, the drunk scene in front of mirror in AAA, the mausi scene in Sholay ..are scenes that immediately come to mind, where his natural acting abilities come to the fore.
Good points, ln.

Flute, suraj,
I didnt mean to sound like AB is in the same league as Kamall Hassan. But he has something about him (personality perhaps and originality) that SRK doesn't have.
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2007, 03:05:30 AM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
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« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2007, 04:12:59 AM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2007, 10:22:59 PM »
Suraj,
Agree with those three movies you mentioned. KHN was very different and the movies being good to watch may have made a difference.

BTW, SRK isn't worthy to tie AB's shoe laces.
toney, agree with you about SRK. it just beats me no end that he is such a huge deal, don't know what the fuss is about. he just repeats the same expressions movie after movie, same smile, same wrinkled forehead thing etc. he was good when he originally debuted but now is just annoying.

as for BigB, have to disagree with you. Bacchan is an entertainer to the core and I always like his presence on the screen, primarily because of his charisma and voice etc. But, I don't rate him very high in terms of acting.
Amitabh can overact..depending on "his mood"...but he is a very good actor. I think he gives in(or does not intervene in) to the director's wishes.
The serious person in Kabhi Kabhi, the joker in Namak Halal, the drunk scene in front of mirror in AAA, the mausi scene in Sholay ..are scenes that immediately come to mind, where his natural acting abilities come to the fore.
Good points, ln.

Flute, suraj,
I didnt mean to sound like AB is in the same league as Kamall Hassan. But he has something about him (personality perhaps and originality) that SRK doesn't have.
toney, agreed. I too think AB is primarily a great entertainer because of personality , voice etc.

ln, all the examples you gave I think potrays more AB in those moods and not the characters, meaning, if there is another scene like that, he will act exactly the same way, may be he will wear different clothes thats all. I think, its just that we enjoy AB and not the characters he takes on.
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2007, 10:08:30 AM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2007, 02:58:22 PM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he


Ever since iI came to know who Tagore actually wrote this for, the national anthem has lost its patriotic flavor for me
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2007, 05:41:25 PM »

from Wikipedia

Thus, Tagore is said to have written the poem in honour of God. In a letter to Pulin Behari Sen, Tagore himself wrote:

"A certain high official in His Majesty's service, who was also my friend, had requested that I write a song of felicitation towards the Emperor. The request simply amazed me. It caused a great stir in my heart. In response to that great mental turmoil, I pronounced the victory in Jana Gana Mana of that Bhagya Vidhata [ed. God of Destiny] of India who has from age after age held steadfast the reins of India's chariot through rise and fall, through the straight path and the curved. That Lord of Destiny, that Reader of the Collective Mind of India, that Perennial Guide, could never be George V, George VI, or any other George. Even my official friend understood this about the song. After all, even if his admiration for the crown was excessive, he was not lacking in simple common sense."


Although if you are an Athiest like me, then that does'nt help either :D
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2007, 06:11:29 PM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he

Sounds rather jingoistic. If you consider that some things (such as SRK's version of the national anthem) are beyond humour, I understand. Of course, I don't agree though ;D

Suraj,
I don't think the anthem should lose importance because it was written to felicitate the Queen. Today, it stands for something else and so I am perfectly fine with that. Of course, I am also in favour of rewriting the anthem if experts think so. But is it really necessary?
It might be personal but I have always found Vande Mataram more moving than Jana Gana Mana. I hope I am not committing some grave sin by saying that I prefer the national song to the anthem ;)
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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2007, 07:06:16 PM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he

Sounds rather jingoistic. If you consider that some things (such as SRK's version of the national anthem) are beyond humour, I understand. Of course, I don't agree though ;D

Suraj,
I don't think the anthem should lose importance because it was written to felicitate the Queen. Today, it stands for something else and so I am perfectly fine with that. Of course, I am also in favour of rewriting the anthem if experts think so. But is it really necessary?
It might be personal but I have always found Vande Mataram more moving than Jana Gana Mana. I hope I am not committing some grave sin by saying that I prefer the national song to the anthem ;)

Toney Amen to that...I also feel that it is more of a national anthem than Jana gana mana...but I dont think i can entirely believe that Jana gana mana was written for the King Georgie porgie...
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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2007, 08:13:45 PM »
started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he

Sounds rather jingoistic. If you consider that some things (such as SRK's version of the national anthem) are beyond humour, I understand. Of course, I don't agree though ;D

Suraj,
I don't think the anthem should lose importance because it was written to felicitate the Queen. Today, it stands for something else and so I am perfectly fine with that. Of course, I am also in favour of rewriting the anthem if experts think so. But is it really necessary?
It might be personal but I have always found Vande Mataram more moving than Jana Gana Mana. I hope I am not committing some grave sin by saying that I prefer the national song to the anthem ;)
toney & suraj, I heard this a lot about national anthem and how people prefer vande mataram over jana gana mana, but personally I find jana ganamana more meaningful and more inspiring. if you look at the meaning of jana gana mana, it really evokes the image of whole of india and calls forth victory to India. I find the meaning of vande mataram, even though good, rather stale. I know it is special because of its role in freedom struggle but still going by what it says, jana gana mana wins hands down, atleast IMO.
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2007, 12:18:40 AM »
flute,
the keyword here is "moving". You may e right about relevance but Vande Mataram is something else. As I mentioned, it is just a personal thing, sudzz agrees and I know of a lot of people who share this sentiment.
As for covering every part of India, where is Keralam? ??? Just kidding, of course. And it isn't fair that we mention just one cricketer in the anthem. What about SRT, SG, SMG etc? What about Kapil Dev?

started today's show with a little speech coz of Republic day, then everyone stood up and sang the national anthem
Aah, Jajajajana gana mana...
Toney sir you are horribly wrong

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jay he Bharata Bhagya Vidhata
Punjab, SIndhu, Gujarat Maratha, Dravid, Utkal Banga
Vindhya Himachal Yamuna Ganga, Uchhal Jaladitharanga
Tava shub name'e jaage, Tava shub ashish maage
Gaye Tava jaya gatha
Janaganamangal dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he

sudzz,
Some minor corrections, if I may...

Jana Gana Mana Adhinayaka Jayehe
Bharata bhagya vidhata;
Punjaba Sindhu Gujarata Maratha,
Dravida Utkala Banga,
Vindhya, Himachala, Jamuna, Ganga,
Ucchhala Jaladhitaranga;
Taba Shubha Naame Jaage
Taba Shubha Ashish Maage
Gaye taba jaya gaatha.
Janaganamangala dhayaka jaya he bharatbhagiyavidhatha
Jaya He Jaya he Jaya He Jai jai Jai Jaya he
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When intelligence matures and lodges securely in the mind it becomes wisdom. When wisdom is integrated with life and becomes action it becomes Bhakti. Knowledge when it becomes fully mature is Bhakti. To believe that Jnana and Bhakti, knowledge & devotion, are different from each other is ignorance.

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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2007, 12:22:17 AM »
BTW, is it Tava shubha or Taba Shubha? I used to sing Tava shubha as Sdzz mentioned but now I have my doubts
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Re: PP's review of SRK in KBC...
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2007, 03:30:13 AM »
BTW, is it Tava shubha or Taba Shubha? I used to sing Tava shubha as Sdzz mentioned but now I have my doubts

It ideally should be taba shuba because the original is in Bengali but I guess the more Hindi version is tava shuba
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