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Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« on: January 22, 2007, 05:48:34 AM »
   
India began their run-up to the World Cup with a well-fought win over the West Indies at Nagpur. The win was even more significant for the way the Indians kept their cool in spite of the challenge by the West Indies batsmen, as they chased a massive total put up by the Indians. Their challenge was set back when their skipper Brian Lara was out-thought by Sachin Tendulkar, and was smartly stumped by Dhoni.

After that, the West Indians didn’t really have any player to stay with Shiv Chanderpaul as he played one of the finest chasing innings seen in one-day cricket. It was a close shave in the end for the home team, but that’s the best way to begin a campaign where not only one’s skills are tested, but also one’s temperament.

Openers on song
 

The Indians owe a big thanks to their opening pair of Ganguly and Gambhir, who put on a big partnership and gave the team just the kind of electrifying start that is needed in limited-overs cricket. Both Gambhir and Ganguly were making a comeback to the Indian limited-overs team, and both batted as if they were never away from the team. Gambhir in the past has not helped his cause by being a tad too impetuous and trying to score a boundary every ball, but here, he seemed a lot more patient without wasting a scoring opportunity.

What can one say about Ganguly, other than the fact that he is silencing all those who doubted he had an international career left  :icon_thumleft: He was superb as he carved the Windies bowling as only he can. If this knock doesn’t prove that there was injustice done to him in omitting him from the limited-overs squad, then nothing will. The way he has returned to the Indian team, it could well be a massive irony if his batting and occasional bowling make India rediscover its winning ways and thus end up saving the job of the person who has tried every trick in the book and some underhand ones too to finish the prince of Kolkata’s career.   ::cheers::

The Nagpur pitch was pretty much a son-in-law one, and the son-in-law also enjoyed himself, as did Dhoni and Tendulkar, who showed that if they had more overs to bat, then they too could have got more runs and provided more entertainment to the goodly crowd.

The little champion batting in the middle-order is a good move by the team, as in the absence of Yuvraj, they don’t have a batsman capable of the finishing touch.

Of course, Tendulkar’s centuries have come as a top-order batsman, and so he may well prefer to be at the top than wait his turn to bat in this form of the game.

Super Chanderpaul

The West Indians never wilted under the burden of chasing such a mammoth total, and they have Chanderpaul to thank for taking the fight right to the Indians. The hosts sent down far too many boundary balls as the bowlers tried to bowl quick than maintain a good restricting line and length. Harbhajan was good and Dravid’s use of Tendulkar was clever and slowed things down somewhat.

Gayle was devastating, and had he not been dismissed, India could well have had more trouble. The contributions from Samu-els and Lara were also good, but not the big ones that a team wants when chasing a big total. Still, the West Indians will not feel bad, for they came so close to causing a big upset.

India will be breathing easy, but they know that even at home, it may not be as easy as it has been in the past.

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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2007, 06:10:15 AM »
Ravi, Thanks for posting

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What can one say about Ganguly, other than the fact that he is silencing all those who doubted he had an international career left   He was superb as he carved the Windies bowling as only he can. If this knock doesn’t prove that there was injustice done to him in omitting him from the limited-overs squad, then nothing will. The way he has returned to the Indian team, it could well be a massive irony if his batting and occasional bowling make India rediscover its winning ways and thus end up saving the job of the person who has tried every trick in the book and some underhand ones too to finish the prince of Kolkata’s career. 


My oh my, he does not mince words, does he ?
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2007, 06:19:26 AM »
Ravi, Thanks for posting

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What can one say about Ganguly, other than the fact that he is silencing all those who doubted he had an international career left   He was superb as he carved the Windies bowling as only he can. If this knock doesn’t prove that there was injustice done to him in omitting him from the limited-overs squad, then nothing will. The way he has returned to the Indian team, it could well be a massive irony if his batting and occasional bowling make India rediscover its winning ways and thus end up saving the job of the person who has tried every trick in the book and some underhand ones too to finish the prince of Kolkata’s career. 


My oh my, he does not mince words, does he ?
Kban1:Gavaskar being Gavaskar.  Nothing much to read there but an opinion.  An Irony too this coming from a man who himself finished many a career during his playing days.  I guess this is not a time to get into that.  Personally happy that Sourav grabbed the opportunity given to him with both hands and deservedly so.  I want the consistency factor maintained for his own good and for sake of the team.
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2007, 06:20:12 AM »
Ravi, Thanks for posting

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What can one say about Ganguly, other than the fact that he is silencing all those who doubted he had an international career left   He was superb as he carved the Windies bowling as only he can. If this knock doesn’t prove that there was injustice done to him in omitting him from the limited-overs squad, then nothing will. The way he has returned to the Indian team, it could well be a massive irony if his batting and occasional bowling make India rediscover its winning ways and thus end up saving the job of the person who has tried every trick in the book and some underhand ones too to finish the prince of Kolkata’s career. 


My oh my, he does not mince words, does he ?

It is a fact that SMG does not give a lot about GC and his methods
Their differences can be traced to the 1980 India tour

And he is definitely not the one who was in favor of the way Sourav was treated...

In fact, in the SA tour, during one of the post match talks with SG, he said something that brought a smile to SG's face and SMG rounded it off by saying " I said that only to make you smile"
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 06:30:42 AM »
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In fact, in the SA tour, during one of the post match talks with SG, he said something that brought a smile to SG's face and SMG rounded it off by saying " I said that only to make you smile"

* dhruvdeepak thinks he likes SG a little too much  ;D

awesome!  / me function works here too
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2007, 06:33:16 AM »
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In fact, in the SA tour, during one of the post match talks with SG, he said something that brought a smile to SG's face and SMG rounded it off by saying " I said that only to make you smile"

* dhruvdeepak thinks he likes SG a little too much  ;D

awesome!  / me function works here too

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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2007, 06:34:59 AM »
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In fact, in the SA tour, during one of the post match talks with SG, he said something that brought a smile to SG's face and SMG rounded it off by saying " I said that only to make you smile"

* dhruvdeepak thinks he likes SG a little too much  ;D

awesome!  / me function works here too

* MockTurtle wonders why DD likes SG so much
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2007, 06:36:11 AM »
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In fact, in the SA tour, during one of the post match talks with SG, he said something that brought a smile to SG's face and SMG rounded it off by saying " I said that only to make you smile"

* dhruvdeepak thinks he likes SG a little too much  ;D

awesome!  / me function works here too

* MockTurtle wonders why DD likes SG so much

grammar nazi!
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2007, 06:36:31 AM »
Actually coming back to the cricketing merits of Gavaskar's column it is a poorly written one hardly covering any relevant facts.  Sure he has his digs about GC and as usual sings praises of his Little Champion and how he is missing out on his 100's because of his little sacrifice to come in the middle order.  So predictable are his columns.
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2007, 07:37:45 AM »
Actually coming back to the cricketing merits of Gavaskar's column it is a poorly written one hardly covering any relevant facts.  Sure he has his digs about GC and as usual sings praises of his Little Champion and how he is missing out on his 100's because of his little sacrifice to come in the middle order.  So predictable are his columns.

For many, the Indian Cricket Team has been reduced to two entities. Greg Chappell and Sourav Ganguly. Everyone else is incidental.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2007, 07:46:48 AM »
For many, the Indian Cricket Team has been reduced to two entities. Greg Chappell and Sourav Ganguly. Everyone else is incidental.
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Well said. That is what sells.

I am starting to lose respect for SMG. His (and BS Bedi's) potshots are beneath their stature in Indian cricket. It is totally unnecessary.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2007, 10:29:21 AM »
One thing is rather clear..................whenever SG returns, India starts winning.........be it in Jo'burg or Nagpur.
SMG is right on the dot, when he said that SG has saved GC's job. :D
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2007, 02:02:59 PM »
that's a funny way to look at things
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2007, 03:01:11 PM »
this is a very interesting logic indeed. Why don't we go ahead and declare that since SG made a great come back, he never had problems with willingness to take singles, was always a great fielder and was in really great great form, afterall, if he was not good between wickets, how did he take so many singles and eventually got run out trying to take a single? how did he take those great catches in SA?
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2007, 03:04:53 PM »
For many, the Indian Cricket Team has been reduced to two entities. Greg Chappell and Sourav Ganguly. Everyone else is incidental.
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Well said. That is what sells.

I am starting to lose respect for SMG. His (and BS Bedi's) potshots are beneath their stature in Indian cricket. It is totally unnecessary.



Potshots? I think he has been quite clear about his opinion on the matter from day 1. Whether you prefer that he instead attack Ganguly and support GC, is entirely another matter.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2007, 04:19:25 PM »
One thing is rather clear..................whenever SG returns, India starts winning.........be it in Jo'burg or Nagpur.
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Oh My Gourav, then I am worried about the next match. And the next one too(Jo'berg, Durban, Cape Town).

Maybe, we should drop SG for the next match and make him do another comeback. At least, we can be assured of winning every alternate match!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2007, 04:29:17 PM »
One thing is rather clear..................whenever SG returns, India starts winning.........be it in Jo'burg or Nagpur.
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Oh My Gourav, then I am worried about the next match. And the next one too(Jo'berg, Durban, Cape Town).

Maybe, we should drop SG for the next match and make him do another comeback. At least, we can be assured of winning every alternate match!!
LOL. ....and by extrapolation, drop in WC Semis(or last R8 match) to win WC final [but then who will beat the minnow - Kenya? - in Semis]
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2007, 04:38:07 PM »
One thing is rather clear..................whenever SG returns, India starts winning.........be it in Jo'burg or Nagpur.
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Oh My Gourav, then I am worried about the next match. And the next one too(Jo'berg, Durban, Cape Town).

Maybe, we should drop SG for the next match and make him do another comeback. At least, we can be assured of winning every alternate match!!
LOL. ....and by extrapolation, drop in WC Semis(or last R8 match) to win WC final [but then who will beat the minnow - Kenya? - in Semis]

Now that is funny -- ROFL!!!

Applause to both toney & LN for some good humor.  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2007, 05:48:40 PM »
One thing is rather clear..................whenever SG returns, India starts winning.........be it in Jo'burg or Nagpur.
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Oh My Gourav, then I am worried about the next match. And the next one too(Jo'berg, Durban, Cape Town).

Maybe, we should drop SG for the next match and make him do another comeback. At least, we can be assured of winning every alternate match!!
LOL. ....and by extrapolation, drop in WC Semis(or last R8 match) to win WC final [but then who will beat the minnow - Kenya? - in Semis]

Now that is funny -- ROFL!!!

Applause to both toney & LN for some good humor.  ;D
Thanks, nice to see the applaud count rise for a change ;)
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2007, 06:22:13 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2007, 06:30:15 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2007, 06:37:55 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2007, 07:10:09 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
I agree this DG's reports by CP and Toney I think had more pertinent information about the game than SMG's whose sole objective of writing columns is to rake things up.  I have been reading his stuff written for PMG since his playing days dating back to early 80's when his columns used to appear  in "The Hindu".  Now for most part I stopped reading them except when I catch them like this online.  He always tries to base things on innuendos just enough to not get into trouble.  He is very subtle that way.  A very good cricket mind for most part put to waste.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 08:04:57 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
I agree this DG's reports by CP and Toney I think had more pertinent information about the game than SMG's whose sole objective of writing columns is to rake things up.  I have been reading his stuff written for PMG since his playing days dating back to early 80's when his columns used to appear  in "The Hindu".  Now for most part I stopped reading them except when I catch them like this online.  He always tries to base things on innuendos just enough to not get into trouble.  He is very subtle that way.  A very good cricket mind for most part put to waste.

and I find this very surprising in SMG's case because unlike multitude of other ex-cricketers, SMG has gotten his share of limelight and respect post-retirement- it will be useful for such a man to contribute with sincerity rather than sensationalism; very disappointing indeed!!
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2007, 12:00:42 AM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
I agree this DG's reports by CP and Toney I think had more pertinent information about the game than SMG's whose sole objective of writing columns is to rake things up.  I have been reading his stuff written for PMG since his playing days dating back to early 80's when his columns used to appear  in "The Hindu".  Now for most part I stopped reading them except when I catch them like this online.  He always tries to base things on innuendos just enough to not get into trouble.  He is very subtle that way.  A very good cricket mind for most part put to waste.

and I find this very surprising in SMG's case because unlike multitude of other ex-cricketers, SMG has gotten his share of limelight and respect post-retirement- it will be useful for such a man to contribute with sincerity rather than sensationalism; very disappointing indeed!!

why shdn't someone be sincere in his non-flattering assessment of GC? if cricinfo and PP's could make a living out of speculations and rumour-mongering, why shd SMG be exempt? oh, coz the target is not SG?  ::)  ::)
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« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2007, 12:19:52 AM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
I agree this DG's reports by CP and Toney I think had more pertinent information about the game than SMG's whose sole objective of writing columns is to rake things up.  I have been reading his stuff written for PMG since his playing days dating back to early 80's when his columns used to appear  in "The Hindu".  Now for most part I stopped reading them except when I catch them like this online.  He always tries to base things on innuendos just enough to not get into trouble.  He is very subtle that way.  A very good cricket mind for most part put to waste.

and I find this very surprising in SMG's case because unlike multitude of other ex-cricketers, SMG has gotten his share of limelight and respect post-retirement- it will be useful for such a man to contribute with sincerity rather than sensationalism; very disappointing indeed!!

why shdn't someone be sincere in his non-flattering assessment of GC? if cricinfo and PP's could make a living out of speculations and rumour-mongering, why shd SMG be exempt? oh, coz the target is not SG?  ::)  ::)

I think SMG should sincerely say that he does not like GC because of their history and hence any comments in reference to GC are biased.
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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2007, 12:25:16 AM »
SMG has an axe to grind  :evil4:
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2007, 12:27:24 AM »

I think SMG should sincerely say that he does not like GC because of their history and hence any comments in reference to GC are biased.

it is upto the readers to interpret it any whatsoever way they want, ain't it? i, for instance, find it statement about GC 100% accurate and i have no history with GC. obviously, you and many others differ in that assessment of GC and hence question SMG's motives.
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2007, 12:29:37 AM »
SMG has an axe to grind  :evil4:

doesn't every one? GC had an axe to grind wrt SG, PP ground the masala for GC, DP made the sambar along with some side-dishes, y'all devoured it. *shrug*
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2007, 12:32:19 AM »
SMG has an axe to grind  :evil4:

doesn't every one? GC had an axe to grind wrt SG, PP ground the masala for GC, DP made the sambar along with some side-dishes, y'all devoured it. *shrug*


Was this okra sambar and hence u refrained?  ;D
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2007, 12:38:34 AM »

I think SMG should sincerely say that he does not like GC because of their history and hence any comments in reference to GC are biased.

it is upto the readers to interpret it any whatsoever way they want, ain't it? i, for instance, find it statement about GC 100% accurate and i have no history with GC. obviously, you and many others differ in that assessment of GC and hence question SMG's motives.

Agreed. I was taking a swipe at SMG, that's all.
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Re: Significant win in many respects - Sunil Gavaskar
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2007, 02:48:14 PM »
SMG has gone senile

SG's knock was a delight- what a comeback!!!

Oh dear. My God, SMG has stated something groundbreaking in his article. My God, he said some people didn't want him in the team.

He's hopping mad.

My comment is based on the cumulative effect of SMG's ramblings lately vs this article on a stand alone basis.

As for this "significant win" article, I found CP's front page article more pertinent than this useless information. My take on this match is

1. Good to get a win

2. Great to see SG's batting

3. No significance in this victory- as a prep for WC we play on a wicket totally unlike the Windies pitches- GG scores well but hasn't he done that mostly on such pitches and then flopped on different kinds?? So we include GG and the Rainas and then give them pitches where we cannot truly test them for a WC pitch ??? ???

Then we merely squeeze by for a victory with questions unanswered and ending up with a feel-good but "insignificant" victory except for SG's batting
I agree this DG's reports by CP and Toney I think had more pertinent information about the game than SMG's whose sole objective of writing columns is to rake things up.  I have been reading his stuff written for PMG since his playing days dating back to early 80's when his columns used to appear  in "The Hindu".  Now for most part I stopped reading them except when I catch them like this online.  He always tries to base things on innuendos just enough to not get into trouble.  He is very subtle that way.  A very good cricket mind for most part put to waste.

and I find this very surprising in SMG's case because unlike multitude of other ex-cricketers, SMG has gotten his share of limelight and respect post-retirement- it will be useful for such a man to contribute with sincerity rather than sensationalism; very disappointing indeed!!

why shdn't someone be sincere in his non-flattering assessment of GC? if cricinfo and PP's could make a living out of speculations and rumour-mongering, why shd SMG be exempt? oh, coz the target is not SG?  ::)  ::)

MT- you can stay stuck or glued to SG and GC issue for eternity- my comments on SMG, if you had read earlier, were based on a cumulative effect of SMG's articles lately and not on this one issue.

But as usual your concerns are only stuck on those two names.
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