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Some Ranji Updates
« on: January 04, 2007, 04:39:00 PM »
What a comeback !!

After conceding 109 runs lead in the first innings to Hyderabad (usually it means conceding two points), Bengal bowled Hyderabad out for only 76 runs in the 2nd innings, Bose claiming 7 wkts. They have a chance to go for an outright win tomorrow

Bengal-Hyderabad

Pathan still struggling

Pathan again struggled in the 2nd innings, got the worst return for Baroda with just 1 wkt and an econ rate of 4.53 while Rakesh Patel
bagged 5 wkts

UP-Baroda

Delhi in comfortable position

Against Andhra, Chopra failed in both the innings. Nehra not playing this one.

Delhi-Andhra

Maharastra may get 2 points against Gujrat

At end of day three, not even two innings have been completed. Yet, it's not a high scoring game.

Maharastra-Gujrat

Mumbai is all set for an outright win against Rajasthan

May even win by an innings.

Mumbai-Rajasthan

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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 04:50:56 PM »
Really commendable for Ranadeb Bose to scalp 7. I think Bengal will win tomorrow. I also hope Mumbai scores an innings win...looks quite possible right now
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 04:54:00 PM »
Two things

1) Obsession with Pathan should end, unless he proves in domestics.  Why such importance to him, I have no idea.  For batting.  Then he need to compete with all the rest as a batsman.  As a bowler just about now he should not be even in the 10 top pacers in the country.  He is nothing special.  He should be at this point be treated on par with any other cricketer.

2) And Akash Chopra.  He first needs to score consistently and then into contention.  From the way he is going he may soon be dropped from the Delhi side.  Let us just say that Jaffy made that spot his own for the foreseeable future in tests.  For now Chopra the openor can be laid to rest.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 05:01:03 PM »
Two things

1) Obsession with Pathan should end, unless he proves in domestics.  Why such importance to him, I have no idea.  For batting.  Then he need to compete with all the rest as a batsman.  As a bowler just about now he should not be even in the 10 top pacers in the country.  He is nothing special.  He should be at this point be treated on par with any other cricketer.

2) And Akash Chopra.  He first needs to score consistently and then into contention.  From the way he is going he may soon be dropped from the Delhi side.  Let us just say that Jaffy made that spot his own for the foreseeable future in tests.  For now Chopra the openor can be laid to rest.

Arent you being a little harsh on Chopra. He just failed in this match and probably the last (I am too lazy to check the score). Otherwise he has been doing well, generally speaking. Still, you are right, with Gambhir around and Jaffer scoring a century, Chopra's chances have gone down considerably.

Totally agree with you about Pathan. Unfortunately, he has turend into an absolutely mediocre bowler> we may find some utility for him in the ODIs as a batting allrounder a la Razzak
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 05:10:13 PM »
Two things

1) Obsession with Pathan should end, unless he proves in domestics.  Why such importance to him, I have no idea.  For batting.  Then he need to compete with all the rest as a batsman.  As a bowler just about now he should not be even in the 10 top pacers in the country.  He is nothing special.  He should be at this point be treated on par with any other cricketer.

2) And Akash Chopra.  He first needs to score consistently and then into contention.  From the way he is going he may soon be dropped from the Delhi side.  Let us just say that Jaffy made that spot his own for the foreseeable future in tests.  For now Chopra the openor can be laid to rest.

Arent you being a little harsh on Chopra. He just failed in this match and probably the last (I am too lazy to check the score). Otherwise he has been doing well, generally speaking. Still, you are right, with Gambhir around and Jaffer scoring a century, Chopra's chances have gone down considerably.

Totally agree with you about Pathan. Unfortunately, he has turend into an absolutely mediocre bowler> we may find some utility for him in the ODIs as a batting allrounder a la Razzak
Actually his failures are little more than 2 games.  If you look at a graph of him this season and last you know what I am talking.  I follow domestics very closely.  He has too many failures early in the innings for an openor  over the last 2 seasons for my taste.  I do not like that in an openor.

There is nothing to be harsh about it.  You perform and prove and you are in.  With Chopra I do not see that.

Sorry at this point I do not see Pathan bowling in a ODI's with any success as an allrounder.  It will be a case of a bowler rolling over his arm.   He is not in the class of Razzaq yet or anywhere close to it.  Now if he wants to revive his career as a batsman he needs to work on it.   That is a totally different discussion. 
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Re: Some Ranji Updates
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2007, 05:33:07 PM »
Two things

1) Obsession with Pathan should end, unless he proves in domestics.  Why such importance to him, I have no idea.  For batting.  Then he need to compete with all the rest as a batsman.  As a bowler just about now he should not be even in the 10 top pacers in the country.  He is nothing special.  He should be at this point be treated on par with any other cricketer.

2) And Akash Chopra.  He first needs to score consistently and then into contention.  From the way he is going he may soon be dropped from the Delhi side.  Let us just say that Jaffy made that spot his own for the foreseeable future in tests.  For now Chopra the openor can be laid to rest.

Arent you being a little harsh on Chopra. He just failed in this match and probably the last (I am too lazy to check the score). Otherwise he has been doing well, generally speaking. Still, you are right, with Gambhir around and Jaffer scoring a century, Chopra's chances have gone down considerably.

Totally agree with you about Pathan. Unfortunately, he has turend into an absolutely mediocre bowler> we may find some utility for him in the ODIs as a batting allrounder a la Razzak

C&b, I won't dare to compare Pathan and Razzaq even when IP was in peak form (for the ODIs). Now the comparison is simply an insult to Razzaq. IP was good when he was in form, but as Rams said, he's not in the same class as Razzaq. My opinion of course.
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Re: Some Ranji Updates
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2007, 05:57:31 PM »
Chopra had a very poor season last year. This year he had an ok start .

There are other openers who are doing much better than Chopra (Uthappa and Jadhav) this season.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2007, 07:13:23 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 07:18:33 PM »
This yadav fellow is a big crook. His son is still in the team! I will think of some questions.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 07:20:30 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.
are you from HYD?????
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 07:27:30 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.
are you from HYD?????

Rams, he asked if we have any questions for the players, and not personal questions about him.  ;D
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 07:27:52 PM »
This yadav fellow is a big crook. His son is still in the team! I will think of some questions.
Dex:It is funny you chose the wrong reason to castigate Yadav.  His son is doing very well this season and is no longer the captain.  I can assure you from what I know, Shivlal Yadav is not the big gun.  There are still guys higher up that he seeks blessings from.  Ofcourse he being a former player helps greatly and to me he is doing the dirty work for guys above him.  Also not that you will ever agree with me, but he did help a lots of Youngsters.  Ask M.V.Sridhar.  He will tell you.  It is not all bad with him, if you are to believe me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 07:28:43 PM »
rams, yes i'm from hyd but was in chennai for the past 4 years and am in gurgaon since last 6 months
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 07:29:15 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.
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Rams, he asked if we have any questions for the players, and not personal questions about him.  ;D
But I choose to anyway. :D :D :D
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2007, 07:32:54 PM »
Rams,
Didn't Shivlal's son make it to the team solely on his father's powers?

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?
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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2007, 07:36:46 PM »
Rams,
Didn't Shivlal's son make it to the team solely on his father's powers?

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?
He played the Chellengers in 2005.  What I understand from a fellow DGite that he can get unplayable when on roll, talented but possibly lacks consistency.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2007, 07:37:44 PM »
rams, yes i'm from hyd but was in chennai for the past 4 years and am in gurgaon since last 6 months
Chetan: OK.  There are lots of guys I know that play in 'A' leagues that played with Azhar in the past and now play with Laxman.   They both are very disciplined if you ask around, always show up for league games when not playing for State or National sides. I myself was a league player during the 80's in my college days.  Before I moved to U.S. I always used to be at the Gymkhana.  Even now during visits I go there studiously and check net practices and glimpses of some league matches.

Can you check if you can, what is wrong with Ambati Rayudu and if he is playing the next game.

Also you might want to watch the next game if you are there.  Laxman will be there playing and they will play Punjab.  Mongia will show up.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2007, 07:38:30 PM »

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?

he was quick. much quicker than any of the hyd bowlers for sure. i could pick the ball when the other bengal pacers were bowling (i was at deep mid-wicket position for them), so i think bose was quick. he has long munaf like hair and seemed to be well built. kaushik reddy of hyderabad(he opened the bowling) was taller, but didn't seem to be as quick either.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2007, 07:38:53 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.

Good post Chetan. May be you can collect enough material tomorrow, note down some stuffs you may have missed from today's game and then prepare a nice report for the main page. Remember you have volunteered to write a column every alternate Friday. This could be a good beginning. As far as your problem about waking up, PM me or someone else with your number and we'll give you a wake up call.  :D I am serious.

It seems Bengal got too many LBW decisions in the first innings and they are going to lodge an official complaint about it. How was Ranadeb's bowling? Was he fast? How about Dinda? He bowled well in the first innings and seems to be a good find for Bengal in the absence of SS Paul. May be you can ask the Bengal lads about SG as SG played for almost a year with them. They may have some interesting tidbits to tell you, even SG's personal opinion on GC.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2007, 07:41:35 PM »
Rams,
Didn't Shivlal's son make it to the team solely on his father's powers?

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?
Bottom line Toney is he would have been kicked out by now if he grossly under performed.  He is a decent player with excellent fielding skills.  He can hold his own in a Ranji team.  Agree Shivlal pushed him but he did his bit to stick on.  Not international calibre but Ranji calibre.
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« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2007, 07:42:09 PM »

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?

he was quick. much quicker than any of the hyd bowlers for sure. i could pick the ball when the other bengal pacers were bowling (i was at deep mid-wicket position for them), so i think bose was quick. he has long munaf like hair and seemed to be well built. kaushik reddy of hyderabad(he opened the bowling) was taller, but didn't seem to be as quick either.

About his long hair, I hope you are aware that he idolizes Gillespie, even his hairstyle.
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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2007, 07:43:54 PM »
rams, yes i'm from hyd but was in chennai for the past 4 years and am in gurgaon since last 6 months
Chetan: OK.  There are lots of guys I know that play in 'A' leagues that played with Azhar in the past and now play with Laxman.   They both are very disciplined if you ask around, always show up for league games when not playing for State or National sides. I myself was a league player during the 80's in my college days.  Before I moved to U.S. I always used to be at the Gymkhana.  Even now during visits I go there studiously and check net practices and glimpses of some league matches.

Can you check if you can, what is wrong with Ambati Rayudu and if he is playing the next game.

Also you might want to watch the next game if you are there.  Laxman will be there playing and they will play Punjab.  Mongia will show up.

i jokingly asked if ambati rayudu and arjun yadav fought again, but was told he's injured. i'll ask more about that tomorrow. it seems he's not even been at the stadium the last few matches. unfortunately, my vacation ends this weekend and have to go back, so i can't catch laxman batting :( btw, did you visit the rajiv *hi stadium at uppal? it is still under construction, but i was pleasantly surprised by its facilities
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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2007, 07:46:24 PM »

Chetan,
Nice to know about your experience.
About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ). How quick is he compared to the other pacers?

he was quick. much quicker than any of the hyd bowlers for sure. i could pick the ball when the other bengal pacers were bowling (i was at deep mid-wicket position for them), so i think bose was quick. he has long munaf like hair and seemed to be well built. kaushik reddy of hyderabad(he opened the bowling) was taller, but didn't seem to be as quick either.

About his long hair, I hope you are aware that he idolizes Gillespie, even his hairstyle.

now that you mention it, you are right. it was the gillespie hairstyle
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Re: Some Ranji Updates
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2007, 07:46:58 PM »

About Bose: Did you mean that he was very quick and hence you couldn't spot the ball? Is this guy well built? (Sorry I am sounding all excited like fineleg ;D ).


Eh!?? I only get excited abt chicks. Thats ruchir u must have meant ;D

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« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2007, 07:49:40 PM »
rams, yes i'm from hyd but was in chennai for the past 4 years and am in gurgaon since last 6 months
Chetan: OK.  There are lots of guys I know that play in 'A' leagues that played with Azhar in the past and now play with Laxman.   They both are very disciplined if you ask around, always show up for league games when not playing for State or National sides. I myself was a league player during the 80's in my college days.  Before I moved to U.S. I always used to be at the Gymkhana.  Even now during visits I go there studiously and check net practices and glimpses of some league matches.

Can you check if you can, what is wrong with Ambati Rayudu and if he is playing the next game.

Also you might want to watch the next game if you are there.  Laxman will be there playing and they will play Punjab.  Mongia will show up.

i jokingly asked if ambati rayudu and arjun yadav fought again, but was told he's injured. i'll ask more about that tomorrow. it seems he's not even been at the stadium the last few matches. unfortunately, my vacation ends this weekend and have to go back, so i can't catch laxman batting :( btw, did you visit the rajiv *hi stadium at uppal? it is still under construction, but i was pleasantly surprised by its facilities
Yes I did visit 3 times.  My wife's sister lives in Ramananthpur 7 minutes from Uppal where the stadium is.  I think once complete it will be on par with or close to Mohali with all facilities and what not.  Exciting days to be a cricket fan in Hyderabad.

If I were you I would postpone the trip for Laxman. :D :D :D
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2007, 07:49:46 PM »

About his long hair, I hope you are aware that he idolizes Gillespie, even his hairstyle.

now that you mention it, you are right. it was the gillespie hairstyle
ugh!! Typical hair style of trailer park trash! Sorry but that is the reality.
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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2007, 07:50:06 PM »
I went to watch the hyderabad bengal match at the rajiv *hi stadium today. i thought i'll go tomorrow but seeing that hyd were 25-5, i thought the match might be over today and went during the post-lunch session when hyderabad were around 50-7. i was sitting near the square leg boundary when RR bose was bowling and couldn't even follow the ball's trajectory. A catch in the slip off bose's bowling and a catch at point were dropped during the last 25 hyd runs, but there were not many misfields by bengal. i started talking with abhishek junjhunwala, but the last hyd wicket fell just then! when it was bengal's turn to bat, i changed my position and went onto the roof, where to my surprise, i found the bengal team's video analyst (i didn't ask him for his name). the field was lush green and hyd players were diving a lot. unfortunately, the fielder at point misfielded two cut shots off ojha's bowling which went for 4. there was some controversy around arindam das' dismissal with the hyd wicket keeper claiming the catch while the batsman and the umpire thought it fell short. the leg umpire  confirmed the catch and das had to leave. he soon came to the video analyst on the first floor to check out the replay and told me it fell short. i asked him if he would show it to the match refree and he said "what use is it? i won't be called back to bat". i told him that maybe he can get the hyd wicket keeper punished. also, i read later that one of the umpires(maybe the same leg umpire) was giving a lot of decisions against bengal (maybe yadav has a hand ). i told the video analyst about cricketvoice.com and told him i am a contributor. i wanted to ask him more questions about his software but he didn't have the enthu. i'll probably go tomorrow early morning. there were hardly 30-40 ppl today and i think they'll be fewer tomorrow morning. so probably i can pester the players more tomorrow. if anyone wants me to ask some questions, post them here. its not 100% certain that i'll go (there's no one to wake me up), but i will if i get up in time.

Good post Chetan. May be you can collect enough material tomorrow, note down some stuffs you may have missed from today's game and then prepare a nice report for the main page. Remember you have volunteered to write a column every alternate Friday. This could be a good beginning. As far as your problem about waking up, PM me or someone else with your number and we'll give you a wake up call.  :D I am serious.

It seems Bengal got too many LBW decisions in the first innings and they are going to lodge an official complaint about it. How was Ranadeb's bowling? Was he fast? How about Dinda? He bowled well in the first innings and seems to be a good find for Bengal in the absence of SS Paul. May be you can ask the Bengal lads about SG as SG played for almost a year with them. They may have some interesting tidbits to tell you, even SG's personal opinion on GC.  :D

i wanted to ask about SG, but i didn't want to seem like someone interested in gossip. i thought i'll get there slowly, but the time wasn't sufficient. i didn't notice much of dinda and sarkar(i went very late into the hyd innings).
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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2007, 07:51:36 PM »
rams, yes i'm from hyd but was in chennai for the past 4 years and am in gurgaon since last 6 months
Chetan: OK.  There are lots of guys I know that play in 'A' leagues that played with Azhar in the past and now play with Laxman.   They both are very disciplined if you ask around, always show up for league games when not playing for State or National sides. I myself was a league player during the 80's in my college days.  Before I moved to U.S. I always used to be at the Gymkhana.  Even now during visits I go there studiously and check net practices and glimpses of some league matches.

Can you check if you can, what is wrong with Ambati Rayudu and if he is playing the next game.

Also you might want to watch the next game if you are there.  Laxman will be there playing and they will play Punjab.  Mongia will show up.

i jokingly asked if ambati rayudu and arjun yadav fought again, but was told he's injured. i'll ask more about that tomorrow. it seems he's not even been at the stadium the last few matches. unfortunately, my vacation ends this weekend and have to go back, so i can't catch laxman batting :( btw, did you visit the rajiv *hi stadium at uppal? it is still under construction, but i was pleasantly surprised by its facilities
Yes I did visit 3 times.  My wife's sister lives in Ramananthpur 7 minutes from Uppal where the stadium is.  I think once complete it will be on par with or close to Mohali with all facilities and what not.  Exciting days to be a cricket fan in Hyderabad.

If I were you I would postpone the trip for Laxman. :D :D :D
Thankfully, there is only one ramshorns ;D

I am a little peeved that Hyderabad is starting all this cricket related development after I moved from there  >:( >:(
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« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2007, 07:53:31 PM »
Alright Chetan, we all will be looking for your report tomorrow. Myself and Finey have volunteered to wake you up. So you can't use that as an excuse any more. If you fail to wake up tomorrow, may be we'll conduct a poll and have you banned.
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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2007, 07:56:10 PM »
Yes I did visit 3 times.  My wife's sister lives in Ramananthpur 7 minutes from Uppal where the stadium is.  I think once complete it will be on par with or close to Mohali with all facilities and what not.  Exciting days to be a cricket fan in Hyderabad.

If I were you I would postpone the trip for Laxman. :D :D :D

i want to, but i'm nearing the end of a two week vacation.. can't take another for 2 months :( 

right now, security at the stadium is so poor that i could have stolen one of the helments near the boundary and ran off without being caught.

ok, i'm off to sleep now in an attempt to get up early(unfortunately, alarms and mobile phones don't work for me)
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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2007, 07:58:45 PM »
Yes I did visit 3 times.  My wife's sister lives in Ramananthpur 7 minutes from Uppal where the stadium is.  I think once complete it will be on par with or close to Mohali with all facilities and what not.  Exciting days to be a cricket fan in Hyderabad.

If I were you I would postpone the trip for Laxman. :D :D :D

i want to, but i'm nearing the end of a two week vacation.. can't take another for 2 months :( 

right now, security at the stadium is so poor that i could have stolen one of the helments near the boundary and ran off without being caught.

ok, i'm off to sleep now in an attempt to get up early(unfortunately, alarms and mobile phones don't work for me)

What about fire, burglary etc? You just pick an option.
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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2007, 07:58:59 PM »
Alright Chetan, we all will be looking for your report tomorrow. Myself and Finey have volunteered to wake you up. So you can't use that as an excuse any more. If you fail to wake up tomorrow, may be we'll conduct a poll and have you banned.

i can always use a new handle.. i'm on a dynamic ip anyway :)
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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2007, 08:10:38 PM »
It seems Bengal got too many LBW decisions in the first innings and they are going to lodge an official complaint about it. How was Ranadeb's bowling? Was he fast? How about Dinda? He bowled well in the first innings and seems to be a good find for Bengal in the absence of SS Paul. May be you can ask the Bengal lads about SG as SG played for almost a year with them. They may have some interesting tidbits to tell you, even SG's personal opinion on GC.  :D
6 of them to be precise - hopefully these are all honest and there is nothing fishy to it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2007, 08:13:10 PM »
It seems Bengal got too many LBW decisions in the first innings and they are going to lodge an official complaint about it. How was Ranadeb's bowling? Was he fast? How about Dinda? He bowled well in the first innings and seems to be a good find for Bengal in the absence of SS Paul. May be you can ask the Bengal lads about SG as SG played for almost a year with them. They may have some interesting tidbits to tell you, even SG's personal opinion on GC.  :D
6 of them to be precise - hopefully these are all honest and there is nothing fishy to it.

As I have already said, the Bengal team doesn't share your sentiment.
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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2007, 08:34:14 PM »
Yes I did visit 3 times.  My wife's sister lives in Ramananthpur 7 minutes from Uppal where the stadium is.  I think once complete it will be on par with or close to Mohali with all facilities and what not.  Exciting days to be a cricket fan in Hyderabad.

If I were you I would postpone the trip for Laxman. :D :D :D

i want to, but i'm nearing the end of a two week vacation.. can't take another for 2 months :( 

right now, security at the stadium is so poor that i could have stolen one of the helments near the boundary and ran off without being caught.

ok, i'm off to sleep now in an attempt to get up early(unfortunately, alarms and mobile phones don't work for me)
OK Enjoy the game.
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« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2007, 09:12:52 PM »
Two things

1) Obsession with Pathan should end, unless he proves in domestics.  Why such importance to him, I have no idea.  For batting.  Then he need to compete with all the rest as a batsman.  As a bowler just about now he should not be even in the 10 top pacers in the country.  He is nothing special.  He should be at this point be treated on par with any other cricketer.

2) And Akash Chopra.  He first needs to score consistently and then into contention.  From the way he is going he may soon be dropped from the Delhi side.  Let us just say that Jaffy made that spot his own for the foreseeable future in tests.  For now Chopra the openor can be laid to rest.

Arent you being a little harsh on Chopra. He just failed in this match and probably the last (I am too lazy to check the score). Otherwise he has been doing well, generally speaking. Still, you are right, with Gambhir around and Jaffer scoring a century, Chopra's chances have gone down considerably.

Totally agree with you about Pathan. Unfortunately, he has turend into an absolutely mediocre bowler> we may find some utility for him in the ODIs as a batting allrounder a la Razzak

C&b, I won't dare to compare Pathan and Razzaq even when IP was in peak form (for the ODIs). Now the comparison is simply an insult to Razzaq. IP was good when he was in form, but as Rams said, he's not in the same class as Razzaq. My opinion of course.

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Re: Some Ranji Updates
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2007, 09:15:51 PM »
Chopra had a very poor season last year. This year he had an ok start .

There are other openers who are doing much better than Chopra (Uthappa and Jadhav) this season.

Chopra did have a very ordinary season last year. However, this year he has two big hundreds and some other decent scores. Just of the top, Jadhav didnt start too well this year but seems to be picking up now.
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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2007, 10:23:41 PM »
Here is the averages of the openers in the Super league this season.  Cricinfo stats shows that Chopra has only one hundred.


Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St Team


DS Jadhav             4    5   0   354  171   70.80  36.08   1  2    4  - MAHA
AR Uthappa            5   10   0   541  161   54.10  73.80   2  3    2  - KNTKA
M Vijay               5    9   1   426  179   53.25  41.76   1  1    7  - TN
GK Khoda              4    6   0   313  107   52.16  55.59   2  -    2  - RAJ
A Chopra              5    7   1   247  150   41.16  42.29   1  1    8  - DELHI


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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2007, 10:27:18 PM »
Here is the averages of the openers in the Super league this season.  Cricinfo stats shows that Chopra has only one hundred.


Name                Mat    I  NO  Runs   HS     Ave     SR 100 50   Ct St Team


DS Jadhav             4    5   0   354  171   70.80  36.08   1  2    4  - MAHA
AR Uthappa            5   10   0   541  161   54.10  73.80   2  3    2  - KNTKA
M Vijay               5    9   1   426  179   53.25  41.76   1  1    7  - TN
GK Khoda              4    6   0   313  107   52.16  55.59   2  -    2  - RAJ
A Chopra              5    7   1   247  150   41.16  42.29   1  1    8  - DELHI




Poondu he also scored some 180 odd and 65 in a Duleep trophy match at the start of this season if I remember correctly
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« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2007, 10:34:47 PM »
You are right C&B, This is just the Ranji stats, My mistake.
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