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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #80 on: December 15, 2006, 03:40:15 AM »
Panesar, Harmison rock Australia

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PERTH: Monty Panesar, spinning his left-arm magic as artfully as a reborn Bishan Singh Bedi, snatched five wickets and made sure that Australia was tumbled out for 244 on the first day of the third Test at the WACA. Better still he inspired fiery spells from Steve Harmison whose name has been a synonym for inept cricket since he began the series with the widest of wides.

Unabashed celebration

Although England lost two wickets for 51 there was such a happier feel to its performance that those who dream of a complete change of results which Australia leads 2-0 felt their optimism justified. Panesar can take credit for all this turnaround. He greets any success with leaping, slapping joy and these five stunning wickets — his first against Australia — were the cause for the sort of celebration that had him searching out every mate for high fives. It appeared at one time that he might even invite umpires Rudi Koertzen and Aleem Dar to his party.

Key innings

Australia had a miserable day but it may be when the match is reviewed in total that Michael Hussey's 74 is the key innings. He was promoted to No. 4 to take over from Damien Martyn and even in a series in which he has scored 86, 91 and 61 not out it was an outstanding innings, without intelligent support from batsmen who seemed to think runs would come easily.

Perhaps they got the wrong impression from the openers who blazed away merrily until 47 came in 11 overs. Matthew Hayden, who averages only 22 in this series, went first, Ricky Ponting made only two but Justin Langer was in control until off Panesar's seventh ball he played down the wrong line and was bowled. That set off a Panesar prance right into the dressing room and so to lunch.

Hussey and Michael Clarke put on 52 for the fourth wicket, Andrew Symonds hit two straight sixes off Panesar and Shane Warne played his boldest — some said his most foolish — strokes but only Hussey played the long innings demanded.

I believe the Australian selectors have not covered the departure of Martyn properly. Ponting has said that Symonds gives him more options, but there are better players around Australia, and in particular Phil Jacques who apparently cannot be considered because that means there are too many left-handers in the top order.

Lack of class

Once Langer and Ponting are gone there is a lack of batting class, particularly now that Adam Gilchrist's age is beginning to show. If you think that Clarke and Symonds are not Test class it is clear the Australian middle order creaks and there may be a big rebuilding job next season. Australia is much more vulnerable than the 2-0 lead suggests.
It would be mighty good for cricket at large and this series especially if England were to win this Test. It might also stop the sound of Australian crowing which has become harsh and incessant and, frankly, too childish even for a nation with growing pains. I know all England cheered when the Ashes were won last year but we did not allow our joy to include a massive denigration of everything Australian.

Australia is a great side and it will probably win back the Ashes; but does its supporters have to shower every England player with abuse each time an error occurs. So far in this Test England has answered all the criticisms levelled in the last few weeks but I doubt if that will get a mention among the massed media who will whoop like Panesar if Australia wins but not know where to hide if the results start to go England's way.

http://www.hindu.com/2006/12/15/stories/2006121506212200.htm
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2006, 03:40:58 AM »
BANGG flintoff BANGS lee down the ground. whatashot
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #82 on: December 15, 2006, 03:42:22 AM »
Need Flintys wicket now!
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #83 on: December 15, 2006, 03:42:52 AM »
rubbish MT, chappell said at least thrice that there was daylight. and in fact even healy who is a biased commentator saying it now

this was later when they used the snicko....the initial comments were as i stated.
wrong. chappell said immediately after the first replay that there was daylight.
sorry your i-dont-like-australia bit didnt work this time

he didn't. don't care whether my tactics work or not..i say what i see. ::zzz:: the DAYLIGHT comment was AFTER the snicko analysis regardless, you miss my point. i will get the repllay of thhe whole match later. i will double check it and post again.


err. i just saw it twice (once on tv, once on a website with 3 minute delay) and ill probably see it tomorrow too...on replay
n as i said, chappell's immediate reaction was that there was daylight. we know the aussie commentators can sometimes be like that (not chappell, but healy and benaud) , and tony greig can be as anti-aussie in his commentary as they come, but no need to find things that arent there. anyway theyve mentioned it like 10 times now



Now that Strauss is gone...how does it matter what they say? .....unfortunate for Strauss...bad umpiring...net net...Strauss is gone and so is the Test
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« Reply #84 on: December 15, 2006, 03:44:09 AM »
rubbish MT, chappell said at least thrice that there was daylight. and in fact even healy who is a biased commentator saying it now

this was later when they used the snicko....the initial comments were as i stated.
wrong. chappell said immediately after the first replay that there was daylight.
sorry your i-dont-like-australia bit didnt work this time

he didn't. don't care whether my tactics work or not..i say what i see. ::zzz:: the DAYLIGHT comment was AFTER the snicko analysis regardless, you miss my point. i will get the repllay of thhe whole match later. i will double check it and post again.


err. i just saw it twice (once on tv, once on a website with 3 minute delay) and ill probably see it tomorrow too...on replay
n as i said, chappell's immediate reaction was that there was daylight. we know the aussie commentators can sometimes be like that (not chappell, but healy and benaud) , and tony greig can be as anti-aussie in his commentary as they come, but no need to find things that arent there. anyway theyve mentioned it like 10 times now


ok - you may be right i am probably wrong but still my main POINT is about Healy's(was it him?) reasoning about "them going spontaneously as a sign of honesty"! i have suffered Healy and Slater more than enough. well, now it is SO DAMN obvious - what else can they say? why not talk about the "spontaneous appeal" NOW?
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #85 on: December 15, 2006, 03:44:47 AM »
Aussies...bloody cheats  >:(

i find it appalling that "the warnie, ponting, whoever else" trio going up spontaneously being reason enough for an appeal to be right!

Hypocrisy ;) - Keep repeating something that never happened to make it true is OK, but repeated appealing to make a not out out is not OK  ;)
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #86 on: December 15, 2006, 03:46:49 AM »
rubbish MT, chappell said at least thrice that there was daylight. and in fact even healy who is a biased commentator saying it now

this was later when they used the snicko....the initial comments were as i stated.
wrong. chappell said immediately after the first replay that there was daylight.
sorry your i-dont-like-australia bit didnt work this time

he didn't. don't care whether my tactics work or not..i say what i see. ::zzz:: the DAYLIGHT comment was AFTER the snicko analysis regardless, you miss my point. i will get the repllay of thhe whole match later. i will double check it and post again.


err. i just saw it twice (once on tv, once on a website with 3 minute delay) and ill probably see it tomorrow too...on replay
n as i said, chappell's immediate reaction was that there was daylight. we know the aussie commentators can sometimes be like that (not chappell, but healy and benaud) , and tony greig can be as anti-aussie in his commentary as they come, but no need to find things that arent there. anyway theyve mentioned it like 10 times now



Now that Strauss is gone...how does it matter what they say? .....unfortunate for Strauss...bad umpiring...net net...Strauss is gone and so is the Test

he may be gone but the aussie commentators remain  ;D wish i cd punch them all!
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #87 on: December 15, 2006, 03:47:13 AM »
ok - you may be right i am probably wrong but still my main POINT is about Healy's(was it him?) reasoning about "them going spontaneously as a sign of honesty"! i have suffered Healy and Slater more than enough. well, now it is SO DAMN obvious - what else can they say? why not talk about the "spontaneous appeal" NOW?

Healy is the worst and most obnoxious Channel 9 commentator anyways. That is an universally known truth  ;)
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #88 on: December 15, 2006, 03:47:52 AM »
relax finey, India's not playing  ;D

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Once Langer and Ponting are gone there is a lack of batting class, particularly now that Adam Gilchrist's age is beginning to show. If you think that Clarke and Symonds are not Test class it is clear the Australian middle order creaks and there may be a big rebuilding job next season. Australia is much more vulnerable than the 2-0 lead suggests.

lack of class in Aussie order??? I hate it when a few bad inning and suddenly this guy and that guy is 'showing his age'. and to someone like Gilly.
and "after langer and ponting" there is only Hussey (conveniently forgotten), Clarke (not class?!) and Gilly. waiting in the wings are Phil Jaques who likes to score 100s for breakfast, and Brad Hodge, dropped after 5 Tests with and average of 59  ;D. we'll consider Symonds and Watson as (not class) for argument's sake. and i dont even want to know what wealth of batting riches they have waiting to take over in domestic cricket. it is depressing  ;D
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #89 on: December 15, 2006, 03:56:20 AM »
relax finey, India's not playing  ;D

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Once Langer and Ponting are gone there is a lack of batting class, particularly now that Adam Gilchrist's age is beginning to show. If you think that Clarke and Symonds are not Test class it is clear the Australian middle order creaks and there may be a big rebuilding job next season. Australia is much more vulnerable than the 2-0 lead suggests.

lack of class in Aussie order??? I hate it when a few bad inning and suddenly this guy and that guy is 'showing his age'. and to someone like Gilly.
and "after langer and ponting" there is only Hussey (conveniently forgotten), Clarke (not class?!) and Gilly. waiting in the wings are Phil Jaques who likes to score 100s for breakfast, and Brad Hodge, dropped after 5 Tests with and average of 59  ;D. we'll consider Symonds and Watson as (not class) for argument's sake. and i dont even want to know what wealth of batting riches they have waiting to take over in domestic cricket. it is depressing  ;D

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but there are better players around Australia, and in particular Phil Jacques who apparently cannot be considered because that means there are too many left-handers in the top order.

Just in case you missed this part from Ted Corbett's article  :-\
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #90 on: December 15, 2006, 03:58:56 AM »
ANOTHER CLASS SHOT BY FLINTOFF. BANGS LEE DOWN THE GROUND
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2006, 04:08:30 AM »
Flintoff GONE !!!!
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« Reply #92 on: December 15, 2006, 04:18:58 AM »
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #93 on: December 15, 2006, 04:20:01 AM »
GO Jones c Langer b Symonds 0

JONES gone.

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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #94 on: December 15, 2006, 04:48:30 AM »
watching England falling apart again

It is funnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #95 on: December 15, 2006, 04:49:39 AM »
watching England falling apart again

It is funnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

Yessss ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #96 on: December 15, 2006, 05:12:55 AM »
watching England falling apart again

It is funnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

Yessss ;D ;D ;D
You seem to be a sadist.


First ...Kumar Sangakkara pulled off an exhilarating ton to lift Sri Lanka to a par score. But they needed something special from the bowlers to end the day on an even note. Lasith 'slinger' Malinga responded in style. Bouncers flew around the throat of the batsmen, yorkers threatened to take out toes and when he landed up in the in-between length, he teased the outside edge. He prised out three wickets and has now opened a door for his team. Can Sri Lanka barge through that or will New Zealand close the door? Join us tomorrow to find out. This is Sriram Veera, and along with Jamie Alter, signing off for now. Ta!
22.4 Malinga to Astle, OUT, Crash! What a ripper! 147kmph in-swinging delivery takes out Astle. It didn't land anywhere, the projectile hurtled across at a furious pace, Astle had no time to move his feet, just tried to get his bat in line but it was just not pace that he had to tackle. The ball swung in late, evaded the hurried-flail of the blade and crashed into the stumps. Malinga erupts, his colleagues yell in joy, Astle trudges off in disappointment. What a session. Especially the last spell from Malinga. 
 NJ Astle b Malinga 17 (41m 33b 3x4 0x6) SR: 51.51 
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« Reply #97 on: December 15, 2006, 05:15:46 AM »
watching England falling apart again

It is funnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

Yessss ;D ;D ;D
You seem to be a sadist.


hehe!!! but its fun to watch this Aus giving it to the Poms! ;D
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« Reply #98 on: December 15, 2006, 05:16:08 AM »
Pietersen almost gone- slashes but no edge and escapes
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« Reply #99 on: December 15, 2006, 05:18:55 AM »
And whining is in full swing on BBC message boards and the Ashes loss is blamed on Fletcher, Graveney and Aussie cheaters ;)
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #100 on: December 15, 2006, 05:20:27 AM »
its funny that England is really on the backfoot right now but they keep showing Panesar's 5 wkts every 5 mins again and again
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« Reply #101 on: December 15, 2006, 05:21:41 AM »
How come Malinga swings the ball at 147 kmph when Pathan's ball takes a nap before meeting the batsaman.  It can not be about strength - why can't Indians bowl fast?
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« Reply #102 on: December 15, 2006, 05:23:26 AM »

he may be gone but the aussie commentators remain  ;D wish i cd punch them all!
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« Reply #103 on: December 15, 2006, 05:24:16 AM »
Mahmood gone
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« Reply #104 on: December 15, 2006, 05:29:39 AM »
How come Malinga swings the ball at 147 kmph when Pathan's ball takes a nap before meeting the batsaman.  It can not be about strength - why can't Indians bowl fast?

Fate!

Really BCCI is to be blamed for not grooming pacers.
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #105 on: December 15, 2006, 06:47:54 AM »
Panesar and Harmisson reducing the gap!
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« Reply #106 on: December 15, 2006, 06:49:53 AM »

he may be gone but the aussie commentators remain  ;D wish i cd punch them all!
OMG!!
ok - what double entendre is THAT now? my education is so incomplete!  :(
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« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2006, 06:51:06 AM »

he may be gone but the aussie commentators remain  ;D wish i cd punch them all!
OMG!!
ok - what double entendre is THAT now? my education is so incomplete!  :(

I guess LN was surprised by the violent streak in u ;D
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« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2006, 07:00:24 AM »
aussies cant prise out the tail! aussies < India  ;D ;D
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« Reply #109 on: December 15, 2006, 07:12:04 AM »
Panesar 16 no - so he batted like Giles in addition to taking those 5.
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« Reply #110 on: December 15, 2006, 07:18:24 AM »
Warne can't believe it, Ponting chewing gum furiously
61.4 Warne to Panesar, FOUR, the wrong'un. Panesar picks that one up and it's a not-many-bounce four. 


62.6 Clark to Panesar, FOUR, hey up. What a shot. Oh my word. Panesar on-drives that sweetly, sweet as you like, timing all the way, and that's baffled all of the Australians 
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« Reply #111 on: December 15, 2006, 07:54:57 AM »
Aus 17-1

HOGGARD clean bowls Langer on the FIRST BALL of the Inn...what a start!
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« Reply #112 on: December 15, 2006, 08:01:45 AM »
Aussies need 46 more to win the Ashes.....
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« Reply #113 on: December 15, 2006, 08:22:02 AM »
47-1, lead 76, need 74 more and this one's a done deal. give pomstards some credit jfk  ;)
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« Reply #114 on: December 15, 2006, 08:22:41 AM »
commentators singing flintstones theme on air. pretty much summarizes how interested they are in the match  ;D ;D
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« Reply #115 on: December 15, 2006, 08:59:01 AM »
Aussies 74/1 and lead by 103. Congratulations to Oz for wresting the Ashes back from England......
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« Reply #116 on: December 15, 2006, 09:06:22 AM »
kya "wresting". Poms came swimming across the oceans gleefully to return it to its rightful owner.
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« Reply #117 on: December 15, 2006, 09:17:40 AM »
Aussies 74/1 and lead by 103. Congratulations to Oz for wresting the Ashes back from England......
When was the doubt? All I am hoping for is a 5-0 scoreline.

The Aussies have to play several notches below their best for England to even compete. I dont think the Aussie bowlers will ever let that happen. 2005 was an aberration with a number of things going against the Aussies (including most of the umpiring errors in extremely close matches). Yet, the Poms just managed to scrape through. If only Warnie hadnt dropped Pietersan on the final day of that series :(
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Re: Aus - Eng 3rd Test
« Reply #118 on: December 15, 2006, 09:28:28 AM »
Ponting headed towards his 34th
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« Reply #119 on: December 15, 2006, 09:33:16 AM »
Ponting headed towards his 34th
The Poms helping out by alternating between bowling long hops on the leg side and long hops on the off.
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