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Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« on: December 07, 2006, 04:58:25 PM »
watched some channels ....and couple of points which i heard about today (dont know how authentic they are as i was not there :)) )

1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did
2. SG after innings went back to pavillion and Chappel didnt talk to him or bother to congratulate him

If it is something serious sure will be coming up in print media in next few hours i guess ...
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 05:00:50 PM »
1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did

Maybe he was going to bare his chest after his century if it happened -- kind of hard to do with a chest guard  ;D ;D
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 05:02:19 PM »
No chest guard? Thats new. I hope SG doesn't fall for all this talk (in the media) of playing with one's heart. Cricket isnt as important as life. The protection is there for a purpose.

Probably, GC was so overawed by SG's innings, he was scared of bursting into tears, hence the no congrats.
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 05:03:13 PM »
1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did

Maybe he was going to bare his chest after his century if it happened -- kind of hard to do with a chest guard  ;D ;D
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Good point, I should remember that for my next match too ;D
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 05:04:13 PM »
Cricinfo,
I think we should just ignore such stuff. This is reall tabloid gutter stuff which they have to keep doling out to get some viewers. It just inflames both sides.

I cant see both Chappell or Ganguly being unprofessional. They may not sing each others praises, but the kind of scenario being painted is highly unlikely.
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2006, 05:06:42 PM »
damn someone even smited me for this posting  ;D ;D ....i guess chappelites are really burning inside ...they want some outlet.....

C&B , yes agree fully with you , but i thought of sharing this with all of you ...that is all...and did put a disclaimer  ;D
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2006, 05:15:32 PM »
damn someone even smited me for this posting  ;D ;D ....i guess chappelites are really burning inside ...they want some outlet.....

C&B , yes agree fully with you , but i thought of sharing this with all of you ...that is all...and did put a disclaimer  ;D
cricinfo, dont worry about the smites. They are important to the people with multiple user IDs only. ;D
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2006, 08:48:31 PM »
You know what guys enough is enough. If SG is in good form and if GC tries any of these depressing dressing room things, we should send him packing to Aussie land and get John Wright on an emergency basis till WC and then reevaluate our options. Of course this step is to be taken under extreme situations and if it is conclusively proved that GC acted in a manner less than professional. I too am slowly getting tired of lack of leadership and murmurs of discontent & indescipline in the team.
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2006, 09:04:18 PM »
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1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did
I am reliably informed that GC hid SG's chest guard in the bathroom in an attempt to have SG timed out when he was looking for it. Little did he know that SG was prepared for this eventuality - since the Duleep Trophy he had been playing without the chest guard. GC, who had snoozed off by the time the 3rd wicket fell, awoke to the cheers of the crowd when SG hit his first boundary. A reverberating roar of anguish was heard throughout the stadium...
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2006, 09:09:31 PM »
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1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did
I am reliably informed that GC hid SG's chest guard in the bathroom in an attempt to have SG timed out when he was looking for it. Little did he know that SG was prepared for this eventuality - since the Duleep Trophy he had been playing without the chest guard. GC, who had snoozed off by the time the 3rd wicket fell, awoke to the cheers of the crowd when SG hit his first boundary. A reverberating roar of anguish was heard throughout the stadium...

It was also heard that on the ball that SG got out, GC flashed a mirror in his eyes from the dressing room.
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2006, 09:12:06 PM »
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1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did
I am reliably informed that GC hid SG's chest guard in the bathroom in an attempt to have SG timed out when he was looking for it. Little did he know that SG was prepared for this eventuality - since the Duleep Trophy he had been playing without the chest guard. GC, who had snoozed off by the time the 3rd wicket fell, awoke to the cheers of the crowd when SG hit his first boundary. A reverberating roar of anguish was heard throughout the stadium...

It was also heard that on the ball that SG got out, GC flashed a mirror in his eyes from the dressing room.
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2006, 09:29:00 PM »
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1. SG didnt wear Chest guard as  all other Indian Batsmen did
I am reliably informed that GC hid SG's chest guard in the bathroom in an attempt to have SG timed out when he was looking for it. Little did he know that SG was prepared for this eventuality - since the Duleep Trophy he had been playing without the chest guard. GC, who had snoozed off by the time the 3rd wicket fell, awoke to the cheers of the crowd when SG hit his first boundary. A reverberating roar of anguish was heard throughout the stadium...

It was also heard that on the ball that SG got out, GC flashed a mirror in his eyes from the dressing room.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2006, 10:38:23 PM »
Fire starter

Ganguly does what no other Indian has done on this tour... weather the early storm to not only score 83 himself, but open the match for the players that followed. From 69 for five, India finished the day at 316-7, with Pathan on 111

 

 
 
 Sunandan Lele in Potchefstroom

Cometh the half hour, cometh the man. This is story of a player who has had to sit out for the last 10 months because the Indian selectors thought he had nothing more to offer to the Indian team.

Sourav Ganguly came to Pochefstroom with eyebrows being raised all around. Can he actually deliver at the highest level? Does he have what it takes to play on fast, bouncy wickets — where even his more illustrious colleagues are being bullied?

The early signs were good: Soon after landing in South Africa, he headed for the practice session and played a good net with his team mates. There was a spring in his stride, hope and hunger in his eyes. Forty-eight hours later, yesterday, Ganguly played innings of 83 that can raise the morale of the entire team.

In Pakistan, Sourav had been dropped because he had got runs in the 30s. Yesterday, he batted like champion against a hostile Rest of South Africa attack led by Nantie Haywards and Morne Morkel, who were making life difficult for the rest of the batsmen.

Wasim Jaffer was gone in the first over, Virender Sehwag’s dismissal made it two for one and soon — after Sachin Tendulkar’s dismissal for 10 — it was 37 for three in just over 30 minutes. That’s when Sourav stepped in.

Lot of heart

The former India captain played with a lot of heart. Short stuff was hurled at him right away, he even got a blow to his head, but the left-hander didn’t flinch. During most of his stay at the wicket, he was behind the line every time.

A flick behind square, a couple of off-side drives, and he was on his way. When Sourav reached his half century, all the team members — including coach Greg Chappell — stood up and clapped with chants of “Well played Dadi, Well played Dadi” echoing in the dressing room.
With Irfan Pathan for company, he had launched the Indian rescue act. Ganguly fell for 83, caught behind off Friedel de Wet, but Pathan — growing in confidence with every passing minute — went on to score the first century for India on this tour, and his own maiden first-class hundred.

When contacted over the phone, selection committee chairman Dilip Vegsarkar was happy about the Indian recovery. “We always had faith in Sourav. We thought that his experience could make a difference. Today’s knock will not only boost Sourav and Irfan’s confidence but will have a positive effect on the team,” he said.

“Though all of us know that this was practice match and a test match environment is different, the performance will help the team’s morale.”

 

 

Dada in numbers
Runs: 83
Balls: 141
Minutes: 224
Fours: 13
Strike rate: 58.86
Partnerships
with Laxman: 22 runs
with Dhoni: 10 runs
with Pathan: 139
Came in at 37 for three in 10 overs
Got out at 208 for six in 59.1 overs


Inspired Pathan  slams first ton

Who would have thought it? India’s first century on this disastrous South African tour didn’t come off the blade of Sachin Tendulkar or Rahul Dravid or Virender Sehwag, or the explosive Mahendra Singh Dhoni. Almost one month into the series, it was Irfan Pathan who was raising his bat at Sedgars Park after reaching the magical three-figure milestone.

Pathan has had a tough time in the ODI series, which India lost 4-0. He had hung on only by a hair’s whisker in the test team, and there was tremendous pressure to perform. Unfortunately for Irfan, the bowler, the ball has stopped swinging. But the Baroda player has proven time and again that his all-round skills can be useful for the Team India. This time too, his knock was controlled in the beginning while Ganguly handled most of the pressure, and then had some blistering strokes when he was set.

Mental barrier

When Pathan got his century with a huge six off Paul Adams, a mental barrier had been broken. From 69 for five, India finished the day at 316 for seven with Pathan on 111 (off 175 balls with 15 fours and a six). Who know where his, and former skipper Sourav Ganguly’s, performance can take the side from here.

“The innings were not only good for Sourav and Irfan individually, but also for the team,” said captain Rahul Dravid later. “They have shown that once you see off 20-25 overs of the Kookaburra ball, you can bat for long.” — Sunandan Lele

 
 
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2006, 03:57:29 AM »
When contacted over the phone, selection committee chairman Dilip Vegsarkar was happy about the Indian recovery. “We always had faith in Sourav. We thought that his experience could make a difference. Today’s knock will not only boost Sourav and Irfan’s confidence but will have a positive effect on the team,” he said.

“The innings were not only good for Sourav and Irfan individually, but also for the team,” said captain Rahul Dravid later. “They have shown that once you see off 20-25 overs of the Kookaburra ball, you can bat for long.”

The DGian DD Disagrees  ;)
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2006, 04:02:29 AM »
When contacted over the phone, selection committee chairman Dilip Vegsarkar was happy about the Indian recovery. “We always had faith in Sourav. We thought that his experience could make a difference. Today’s knock will not only boost Sourav and Irfan’s confidence but will have a positive effect on the team,” he said.

“The innings were not only good for Sourav and Irfan individually, but also for the team,” said captain Rahul Dravid later. “They have shown that once you see off 20-25 overs of the Kookaburra ball, you can bat for long.”

The DGian DD Disagrees  ;)

as you said, first let the others score runs, then we'll have something to discuss  ;)
as i have said before, i have seen wayyyy more inspiring knocks attributed this partticular quality of potential-to-bringing-the-team-back-from-the-deadmanship, fail. so i have difficulty in placing such credit on singular innings
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2006, 04:13:52 AM »
When contacted over the phone, selection committee chairman Dilip Vegsarkar was happy about the Indian recovery. “We always had faith in Sourav. We thought that his experience could make a difference. Today’s knock will not only boost Sourav and Irfan’s confidence but will have a positive effect on the team,” he said.

“The innings were not only good for Sourav and Irfan individually, but also for the team,” said captain Rahul Dravid later. “They have shown that once you see off 20-25 overs of the Kookaburra ball, you can bat for long.”

The DGian DD Disagrees  ;)

as you said, first let the others score runs, then we'll have something to discuss  ;)
as i have said before, i have seen wayyyy more inspiring knocks attributed this partticular quality of potential-to-bringing-the-team-back-from-the-deadmanship, fail. so i have difficulty in placing such credit on singular innings

My bad...yes...we will talk about this particular point after the second innings of this 4 day match  :-X
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2006, 04:57:02 AM »
Well, according to the TV channels [all, bar none] GC took all the players away from the dressing room to practice at the nets in the next field as SG got out, so when he entered the dressing room, it was completely empty. There were no welcome claps, pats on the back etc. Neither SG nor IKP were allowed to the post match conference despite repeated media requests.

I guess that one should read this behaviour as another mark of the "professionalism" and "work ethic" of the arch professional that is GC! After all, what SG did 48 hrs after landing in SA couldnot be bettered by any of the famed paper tigers who batted above him, under the expert guidance of our $4000000 a year coach!
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2006, 05:01:23 AM »
Well, according to the TV channels [all, bar none] GC took all the players away from the dressing room to practice at the nets in the next field as SG got out, so when he entered the dressing room, it was completely empty. There were no welcome claps, pats on the back etc. Neither SG nor IKP were allowed to the post match conference despite repeated media requests.

I guess that one should read this behaviour as another mark of the "professionalism" and "work ethic" of the arch professional that is GC! After all, what SG did 48 hrs after landing in SA couldnot be bettered by any of the famed paper tigers who batted above him, under the expert guidance of our $4000000 a year coach!

Maybe incorrect ..because one of the newpaper reports mentioned that he walked back, waited to sign an autograph, acknowledged the applause of a few 100 spectators and was applauded by the team when he walked in...too many theories and reports floating in
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2006, 05:10:07 AM »
Muqaddar Ka Sikandar!

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Ganguly returns with a resounding 83, blows away criticism with his bat

If character by adversity, Sourav Ganguly ought to be a man as hard as a granite. Dumped unceremoniously, humiliated and even ridiculed, he went through hell taking everything in his stride for nine long, agonising months.
 
Of course, during his exile, he didn’t exactly set the world on fire with his batting, but he backed himself to make a comeback with the resolve of a suicide bomber.
 
Fate blessed him with a chance against all odds mainly because the entire batting line up was failing repeatedly. And as he faced his moment of truth, he batted as if his life depended on it coming up triumphs under severe adversity.
 
Unlike some of his more illustrious colleagues — who have been taking shelter behind the customary excuse of needing time to get used to the conditions — Ganguly walked into the blast furnace after he had landed in South Africa.
 
And, for all of 224 minutes that he was at the crease, he displayed enough silk and steel in scoring 83 with 13 sweetly times boundaries. It was an innings full of grit and grace compiled with the patience of a priest.
 
Of course, there was plenty of drama too with Ganguly taking a nasty blow on his helmet just above the right ear as he took his eyes off a Mornantau Hayward delivery. On another occasion a leading edge off Morne Morkel was put down at gully by Vaughn van Jaarsveld.
 
However, these were minor hiccups for Ganguly who was focused and determined on driving home a point. He was much like the King who disguised himself as a commoner and had come searching to regain his lost pride.
 
To begin with, Ganguly was definitely weighed down by the pressure to perform. But he was game for a battle. A couple of runs off the first ball to third man calmed his nerves before another unconvincing shot bisected the slip and gully.
 
But he hung on bravely, collecting every single run as if he was picking precious gems. And gradually came fluency and freedom. A glorious cover-drive off Morkel kissed the turf a thousand times before crashing into the cover fence.
 
He soon repeated the doze to Hayward who then retaliated with a nasty short-pitched delivery that crashed into Ganguly’s helmet.
 
Undaunted, Ganguly resumed his battle with the bowler — after getting treated by the physio-smashing him for two more fours on the off side.
 
A lovely glance off Friedel de Wet and a single to midwicket gave him a fighting half-century. Yet, the celebrations were restrained.
 
A brilliant square drive was his way of celebrating the landmark as he continued to milk the bowling in the company of Irfan Pathan.
 
Ganguly’s vigil came to an end when he was just 17 runs short of his hundred. He was caught off a beautiful delivery from Friedel de Wet.

He walked back a satisfied man, stopping at the gate to oblige a young fan with an autograph, to a standing ovation from grateful colleagues in the dressing room.

Ganguly’s comeback innings has settled a few arguments albeit for the time being. At the same time it will go a long way in restoring his confidence and pride!

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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2006, 05:12:13 AM »
Well, according to the TV channels [all, bar none] GC took all the players away from the dressing room to practice at the nets in the next field as SG got out, so when he entered the dressing room, it was completely empty. There were no welcome claps, pats on the back etc. Neither SG nor IKP were allowed to the post match conference despite repeated media requests.

I guess that one should read this behaviour as another mark of the "professionalism" and "work ethic" of the arch professional that is GC! After all, what SG did 48 hrs after landing in SA couldnot be bettered by any of the famed paper tigers who batted above him, under the expert guidance of our $4000000 a year coach!

Nonsense- nothing like this happened and all players + coach gave a standing ovation. These false reports are becoming increasingly annoying
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Re: Couple of interesting points on SG Saga
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2006, 09:45:04 AM »
Under this hideous  garb of sensationalism these guys don’t realise the damage they cause. Why is the media so hell bent on wrecking their own?
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