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Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« on: October 05, 2006, 07:50:45 AM »
Younis Khan refuses to lead Pakistan

Wahid Abbas | CNN-IBN

Posted Oct 05, 2006 at 12:40 | Updated Oct 05, 2006 at 13:16

New Delhi: A major crisis is brewing in the Pakistan cricket team which is scheduled to land in India on October 7 for the ICC Champions Trophy.

Stand-in skipper Younis Khan has walked out of a Pakistan Cricket Board selection meeting saying that he does not want to be a dummy skipper.

"I don't want to be a dummy captain and the reason why I have refused the captaincy will be revealed afterward," Younis said at a press conference in Lahore.

He is reportedly not happy about with the team selected for Champions Trophy.

The 28-year-old, who has in the past led Pakistan in two Tests and two One-Dayers, left the conference after speaking just one sentence. Coach Bob Woolmer was also present on the occasion.

PCB Chairman Shaharyar Khan called an emergency meeting at its headquarters to discuss the matter.

"Younis has not told us any reason and we are in negotiations with him. As soon as we get any details we will reveal them to the media," PCB director of operations Saleem Altaf said.

Younis was asked to lead the side after regular skipper Inzamam-ul Haq was banned for four One-Dayers by International Cricket Council's Chief Match Referee Ranjan Madugalle for bringing the game into disrepute.

Inzamam was given the ban after Pakistan refused to come out and play on the fourth day of the fourth Test against England at The Oval in August, as they had been penalised five runs by the umpires for alleged ball tampering.

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/younis-khan-refuses-to-lead-pakistan/21058-13.html
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2006, 11:39:46 AM »
I wonder what the exact reason it could be.  I doubt it could be either of the two theories proposed in the cricinfo article, 1) not being appointed for an extended period of time and 2) the picking of Faisal Iqbal without his consultation.  He has fulfilled the duty of stand-in captain with distinction on several occasions, which throws the first theory out of the window, IMO.  Iqbal seems to have solified his position as the next batsman in line and I doubt his selection woud cause that much controversy, making it difficult for me to buy the proposed theory.

I remember he had a spat with Shahid Afridi in WI and I wonder if this has anything to do with it.  The words "dummy captain" make me think there were players within the team that were dismissive of his authority when he likely exercised it (he does seem the type of captain that would boss around a bit-- nothing wrong with it since he is an extremely committed cricketer himself and would expect the same from his teammates), possibly telling him he was only going to be captain for four ODIs?

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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2006, 12:12:43 PM »
Mohammad Yousuf to lead Pakistan
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2006, 12:16:30 PM »
There is a strong possibilty of him being dropped not only for the Champions Trophy, but series and tournaments till the World Cup.

Bob Woolmer told Cricinfo that Younis had resigned for a number of personal reasons. "I am very saddened that he has resigned because he is a very good player. I have a great relationship with him. My view is that he has resigned for a number of personal reasons and those reasons are best told by Younis himself. I will get on with my responsibility as coach as best as possible and continue to prepare the team for the Champions Trophy."
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2006, 01:03:07 PM »
It would be a real gutsy decision to drop him as a batsman considering his great form over the past couple of years.  Does Faisal Iqbal have many forces pulling for his constant inclusion in the XI, being the nephew of Miandad?  Just speculation on my part...

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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2006, 02:13:37 PM »
It would be a real gutsy decision to drop him as a batsman considering his great form over the past couple of years.  Does Faisal Iqbal have many forces pulling for his constant inclusion in the XI, being the nephew of Miandad?  Just speculation on my part...


Iqbal's selection has been controversial previously too for the same reason.
I think the main reason for Younis Khan refusing the captain's band is people like Afridi. This is mere speculation but I am sure he wont be able to control Afridi unless he has the security of ebing a captain for a longer term. IMO, Younis Khan is justified at this decision and he doesnt need to be penalised for it. Why should a person be penalised for refusing to be captain? His only fault is in not announcing this earlier and in private which would have spared the PCB a few blushes.
Now, if only Pakistan announced that Afridi will be the stand-in captain ;) That would have had Younis Khan really worried.

For Pak team's sake, I hope Younis Khan isnt made a scapegoat of internal politics.

BTW, the details of Yousuf being made captain...
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/iccct2006/content/current/story/261385.html
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2006, 03:00:22 PM »
And this is awesome news for India. This is idiot was the biggest thorn in our side. Kick him out I say :)

Now if we can get that Y out of the way...
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2006, 03:59:26 PM »
And this is awesome news for India. This is idiot was the biggest thorn in our side. Kick him out I say :)
In ODIs? I may have to dig into past matches, but I somehow think Shoaib Malik (and Afridi, once in a while) has been killing us in ODIs. Tests, yes - Younis has been a thorn in our side.
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2006, 05:09:52 PM »
And this is awesome news for India. This is idiot was the biggest thorn in our side. Kick him out I say :)
In ODIs? I may have to dig into past matches, but I somehow think Shoaib Malik (and Afridi, once in a while) has been killing us in ODIs. Tests, yes - Younis has been a thorn in our side.

He has not been a thorn in our side in ODIs because Pakistan has been kind enough to bring him in at number 6 and even lower at times, something Imran Khan has been highly critical of.  Pakistan tended to play Malik, Yousuf, and Inzamam at 3-5.  However, once Pakistan has moved up Malik to the opening slot in ODIs and then dropped him down to 6 in England, Younis has performed exceptionally well in ODIs.

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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2006, 07:31:01 PM »
CI's take..

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Pakistan revert to familiar disarray

Osman Samiuddin

October 5, 2006


One day after Pakistan's stirring triumph at Bangalore last year, Wisden Asia Cricket had the pleasure of meeting Younis Khan. His batting - a mammoth double hundred and a fifty to follow - provided the statistical heart of the victory but his incessantly bubbly nature had been its overbearing motif. Glowing throughout, he chatted amicably for nearly two hours about his life, his cricket.


At one stage, he was asked to explain his particularly pointed celebration upon reaching his hundred: facing the dressing room, he had extravagantly dusted his hands in the manner one might when signifying that something had finished. His tone suddenly hardened: "They (someone in the board) told me I was khalaas (after his Kolkatta second innings duck). So my gesture was to those who thought I was finished. What did they have to say now?'


He also revealed that he had turned down an offer to become Waqar Younis's deputy for the 2002-03 disaster series against Australia. According to him, he was unfairly shuffled in and out of the team because of it for two years after. Then, last year as captain in a Test against the West Indies at Barbados, he was allegedly involved in a physical dressing-room scuffle with Shahid Afridi.


None are perhaps directly relevant to his spectacularly abrupt press conference this morning and you can make of them what you will. But they are worth remembering if only because they hint that beyond Younis the happy, Younis the genial, Younis the uncomplicated, Younis the cheerleader, Younis the obvious leader, exists Younis the unknown.


But creating such an unseemly public ruckus to wash his hands of the captaincy, by going to the press before his employer, so close to a major tournament and at a time when he seemed primed for leadership tops it all. Was there any need to compromise both his position and the board so petulantly? Would not a private discussion with the PCB or team management been a more sensible course?


Not knowing why only worsens it. The speculation hasn't stopped of course and for such a stupefying situation, some of it has been predictably bizarre. He was unhappy over the selection of Faisal Iqbal as replacement for Inzamam, he was unhappy at having been made to wait for a meeting with the chairman, he was unhappy at the dismissal of a worker at the National Cricket Academy. If true - and it sounds just too preposterous - they are indeed as one official said very petty reasons.


It has also been hinted that he was peeved at being made captain only for the Champions Trophy and that, at the instigation of some ex-cricketers, he protested at being made, in his own words, "a dummy captain". Others will tut-tut and hastily stereotype his decision as the impulsions of a proud Pathan slighted, the kind perhaps Afridi demonstrated in his decision to retire only to u-turn soon after earlier this year. More muck will undoubtedly be flung. But will the truth ever out? It is the way of these things that inevitably it will but, for Younis's sake if nothing else, you hope it is sooner rather than later.


What is more certain is that he should consider himself very fortunate to still be in the side. It was the view of some officials during the meeting that he should have been sacked and many might be inclined to agree with them. His expression of regret, at the intervention allegedly of Inzamam and Mushtaq Ahmed, has saved his place in the side. But any aspirations to future captaincy, as one official said, should be forgotten now. However, within the unique parameters of Pakistan cricket, in the long-term, that is probably neither here nor there.


Not so lucky are the PCB. For once in the country's troubled recent history of leadership a succession plan was in place. Inzamam was doing the necessary and Younis was waiting in the wings. He had, in Imran Khan and Nasser Hussain, two admirers with impeccable leadership credentials. Such an impression had he made in the brief, staggered opportunities he had as captain that very few doubted he would be captain everntually, and a fine one at that.


There was even widespread debate after the ODI series loss to India earlier this year on whether Younis should already be captain. Inzamam's four-match ban in a sense was ideal, for it allowed Younis to be tested as leader in a tournament significant enough to matter but not the one that is the be-all and end-all. For the foreseeable future, that plan is in ruins.


A cricket-mad acquaintance remarked before the Oval Test that Pakistan cricket, in the preceding two years, had been too quiet, too stable. Almost with sorrow he said that the only news had recently been on the field rather than off it. Sure, the odd Shoaib Akhtar shenanigan quenched the thirst for volatility but it wasn't nearly enough as Inzamam and Bob Woolmer went about rebuilding cricket with unfamiliar calm and level-headedness. Some ball tampering hoopla and a shady captaincy muddle later, Pakistan cricket is back on familiar territory. Leaving all us cynics to ask now: has it ever been any other way?

Osman Samiuddin is Pakistan editor of Cricinfo

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Note: the stuff marked in red is all speculation (Osman says so!). However, if a Younis "supporter"/"hater" uses this info without providing the context ..quoting "CI said"...say 10 times..it will somehow become truth. ..and Younis will be branded as a petty person...whether that is true or not - no one will care.

This is how silly this perception-creation game in cricket and cricket-journalism has become. Till one has real firsthand info (either observed during a game or live tv broadcast..or personally seen/heard it..or if it has been verbatim quoted in multiple/disparate places), there is no reason to believe anything - sad, but true.
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2006, 04:30:08 PM »
And now more crisis

Pak Board Chairman Shrayar Khan resigns

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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2006, 04:35:10 PM »
Really ?
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2006, 04:40:30 PM »
Really ?

yes. news just IN. reasons cited are Younis Khan's resignation and Oval fiasco.
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2006, 04:47:13 PM »
posting the video posted by suraj again here.

reasons for younis khans resignation


http://www.justupit.com/video/view.php?video=eadd8770815049c740567f7a91e81e47
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2006, 04:56:57 PM »
Shahrayar Khan has resigned as chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, following an acrimonious two-month period which began with the Oval debacle in August, and culminated in Younis Khan's departure as captain yesterday.


Saleem Altaf, the PCB's director of cricket operations, said the government had accepted Shahrayar's resignation, adding that Dr Naseem Ashraf, a government adviser and member of the board's ad-hoc committee, was set to take over the role.


Shahrayar, 72, a Cambridge University graduate and former foreign secretary of Pakistan, took over the post in December 2003, and had overseen a period of unprecedented stability in Pakistan cricket. He is the nephew and cousin of the two Nawabs of Pataudi, who both played Test cricket for India and captained the national team.


Under his tenure, Pakistan gradually regained its place as one of the game's leading sides, with the memories of General Tauqir Zia's nepotistic administration put on the backburner.


Khan pulled off a major coup in June 2004 when Bob Woolmer was appointed as coach, and in partnership with the captain Inzamam-ul-Haq, set about forging a squad that - at least until this week's events - were among the favourites for the World Cup next March.

Now, however, following Younis's refusal to lead the side in India and Khan's own departure, a cloud has descended once again over Pakistan cricket. It remains to be seen whether Woolmer, who came close to quitting when the ball-tampering row erupted at The Oval, will be able to continue in an atmosphere that seems to be degenerating by the day.

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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2006, 05:27:59 PM »
Wonder who Mushy will appoint next!! Mullah Omar is free right now.
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2006, 05:37:43 PM »
Wonder who Mushy will appoint next!! Mullah Omar is free right now.

Dr Naseem Ashraf, a government adviser and member of the board's ad-hoc committee.
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Re: Crisis in Pakistan Cricket
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2006, 05:52:46 PM »
Well well .. younis is captain again ... kahani me twist pe twist
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