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[Libran]

Suraj: Mega applause for a concise and effective match report. [Who says that one cannot be brief and still deliver the message? ]. Thanks for staying up late...and cheering the boyz.

Check with Sahir... I believe he had "de-briefed" to send the message of an Indian victory 

[justforkix]

After looking at the various posts of the deserters  who did not follow the match, here is  a brief report on the match:

Indian innings:

Dwayne Smith continued where Johnson had left off when rain intervened in the last match. Rather you could say the Indian batsmen duplicated their performance again WI with each of the top order batsman in a hurry to follow the other back to the pavilion.

RD was flummoxed by Smith giving a simple catch to Baughand they must have been serving special paranthas in the pavilion because VS followed soon being  bowled by Smith. Raina edged a good outswinger to Gayle while Yuvi seems to be trying to get too cute in his batting style and edged one to the wkt keeper.
So we had lost the top 4 within the first 10 odd overs for  a measly 38. While there was something in the pitch for the bowlers- Smith is definitely not a Michael Holding that Indian batsmen made him in this match.

This IMO is the biggest problem. With the slightest help for the bowlers, our batting seems to be collapsing like a pack of cards much too often for comfort.

Sidenote: And I hate the expressions on Rombo Poor Somberi's face. After bowling a rank leg side wide, he makes facial expressions as if he just beat the batsman with a jaffa.

[Libran]

I have reached a stage where I think Rahul Dravid is slowly becoming a BAD captain from a mediocre one. My problem is his decision-making has been absolutely illogical, is not taking the team forward and if anything, adding unnecessary barriers for us to overcome.

I took exception to the Dravid's thinking during the game. Sehwag at one-down was disaster. He had two slips but I felt that a short leg would have put so much more pressure on the WI openers.

I will not talk about his past poor/illogical decisions during England Tour of India, India Tour of Pak and WI etc.. but in this series itself:
1. Team Selection: Why on earth would one go with 5 bowlers in a must-win ODI in a venue where the spinners (the regular HS and irregular VS) have done well. Why would you replace an IP ( a batting "allrounder") with another fast bowler who cannot bat. If IP had to be replaced, would you not put DM or Powar..why SS. In the end, SS worked out well but this was bad strategy...luck more than plan won us the game

Despite all the talk, I think there are more players who are not settled into a role in the team than we think. So while we may think "experimentation" should stop, the management feels that some spots have not been claimed as their own. For instance, SRT's partner. Despite all that, I agree that Mongia deserved a chance today.

I beg to differ here. It is not that players are not settled...but have not been allowed to settle and the reason for that is the prolonged experimentation. One is the SG way...Sent Dhoni...succeeded..kept persisiting....to the point of being predictable..The other is this extreme....IP once, next two matches MSD...suddenly it is VS...one fine day MK...

Do we know if VS was prepared for the one drop position y'day or was it YS ??
And if the players are not sure of which position they would be batting, it becomes extremely difficult

One thing is surprising the opposition and it is a different ball game to surprise your own team.The latter is frought with danger of gigantic proportions.

Why for god's sake would one want to change a performing and fear striking opening combination. When the SRT / SG combine was broken to accomodate VS, similar thoughts were echoed, but it worked out well for India because the replacement was an even better striker of the ball ...over the top, over point etc.,But, does anyone see RD doing that...

[jaat69]

RD seems to be on a personal mission of doing whatever SG did.....and do that better!
For India's sake, I wish him all the best!
Currently, India is playing *ty cricket.......I don't know, whom to blame
:The Great Sappal Sir or RD or VS or whom?!
May be Niranjan Shah?!...poor soul!
btw....I hope Chappal is not actually leading the team!

[123of]

I know we won the match ..but I hope this does not paper over some of the "self-made" problems. I personally think RD got bailed out today.

I have reached a stage where I think Rahul Dravid is slowly becoming a BAD captain from a mediocre one. My problem is his decision-making has been absolutely illogical, is not taking the team forward and if anything, adding unnecessary barriers for us to overcome.

I will not talk about his past poor/illogical decisions during England Tour of India, India Tour of Pak and WI etc.. but in this series itself:
1. Team Selection: Why on earth would one go with 5 bowlers in a must-win ODI in a venue where the spinners (the regular HS and irregular VS) have done well. Why would you replace an IP ( a batting "allrounder") with another fast bowler who cannot bat. If IP had to be replaced, would you not put DM or Powar..why SS. In the end, SS worked out well but this was bad strategy...luck more than plan won us the game
2. Batting order: Ok. Before the series, we wanted to bolster middle order. So Viru is sent there. Now RD gets out in first over. Who comes in ..Viru!! WTF is going on. Where is this juggling of Viru's batting going?
3. His taking of PPs, not engaging in dilatory tactics during the first WI game...etc. show that he just does not think. Appears to me like he has delegated his thinking to "process"

I have high expectations from RD as captain but any fair evaluation of his decision-making (not him as an individual player) would give him a failing grade, today. I just hope he improves on this, before we pay a bigger price someday for his "silly" decision-making in an important tournament.


i hope dravid you never get to give dravid A+.

really he is not waiting for it.

i know where he wants to go with the team ad why he takes the decisions he has done so far, i will not give the detail as you all dislike long notes.

anyway you don't want reasone , you want emotion.

we india are huge population , and all over the world , if Dravid even for a moment thought of makig this fans happy , our indian team would go no where, whats more we won't have dravid .

dravid is dravid due to him always doing what he wanted to do. and aren't we lucky that he can ignore the fans Hysteria at the same time take the possitve energy from them.

enjoy.

[justforkix]

i hope dravid you never get to give dravid A+.

really he is not waiting for it.

i know where he wants to go with the team ad why he takes the decisions he has done so far, i will not give the detail as you all dislike long notes.

anyway you don't want reasone , you want emotion.

we india are huge population , and all over the world , if Dravid even for a moment thought of makig this fans happy , our indian team would go no where, whats more we won't have dravid .

dravid is dravid due to him always doing what he wanted to do. and aren't we lucky that he can ignore the fans Hysteria at the same time take the possitve energy from them.

enjoy.

 

[Cover Point]

I need to report to UCV. Is there a course that would help us understand 123of's posts? I have no clue what he is talking about.

Which part was the original poster and which was his reply?

I would suggest any other DGian who did not understand him to report to the Dean too! (DD, Suraj .. can u handle the flow?)

What I did gather from the post was that we should never ever question Dravid's decison making ... no matter how moronic it is.

So ...Dravid is Dravid because he is Dravid. If he was not Dravid he would never be able to be Dravid. A Dravid divided by itself cannot exist! These people are killing independant Dravid! The worlds are colliding.

enjoy!

[gouravk]

ln,
In the end the results show that he successfully defended a total of 162. Also he had successfully defended 200 in Delhi against England. The results make the captain. The ends justify the means. Just as a sidenote, I dont remember SG ever defending a below 200 total.

If you can consider the 203 against Eng in Delhi which RD defended, then SG defended
scores of 204 twice.

RD has defended a score from 150 - 199 once out of three times.
SG has defended a score from 150 - 199 0 times out of five times.

This doesn't prove anything.

Moreover, yesterday's game has a question mark with Lara coming lower down the order just to give the others a chance.

OK, disregard the England game. But at least RD has done it once. SG has never done it.

[123of]

i was replyig to losingnow .

i hope losingnow  you never get to give dravid A+.

really he is not waiting for it.

i know where he wants to go with the team ad why he takes the decisions he has done so far, i will not give the detail as you all dislike long notes.

anyway you don't want reasone , you want emotion.

we india are huge population , and all over the world , if Dravid even for a moment thought of makig this fans happy , our indian team would go no where, whats more we won't have dravid .

dravid is dravid due to him always doing what he wanted to do. and aren't we lucky that he can ignore the fans Hysteria at the same time take the possitve energy from them.

enjoy.

[sgusa]

I need to report to UCV. Is there a course that would help us understand 123of's posts? I have no clue what he is talking about.

Which part was the original poster and which was his reply?

I would suggest any other DGian who did not understand him to report to the Dean too! (DD, Suraj .. can u handle the flow?)

What I did gather from the post was that we should never ever question Dravid's decison making ... no matter how moronic it is.

So ...Dravid is Dravid because he is Dravid. If he was not Dravid he would never be able to be Dravid. A Dravid divided by itself cannot exist! These people are killing independant Dravid! The worlds are colliding.

enjoy!

Marklad, they want to marklad your marklad and marklad all of you. If you marklad, marklad and marklad dont together get marklad here to marklad with all you, your marklad will defintely be marklad by marklad. Hope marklad  marklads a bit about this and marklad a good marklad. Marklad.

(see southpark)

[123of]

you should q him. i said i know what he did and why . so don't need to q. i know the reason, so i don't get emotional and irritated.

[arjun]

Such a serene soul! He knows all the answers.

[sgusa]

Such a serene soul! He knows all the answers.

Oh yeah ? Does he know where my spare apt keys are ??

[toney]

Such a serene soul! He knows all the answers.

Oh yeah ? Does he know where my spare apt keys are ??

You have a spare apt?

[sgusa]

Such a serene soul! He knows all the answers.

Oh yeah ? Does he know where my spare apt keys are ??

You have a spare apt?

hahah. Spare keys to my apt. There. English Nazi!

[LosingNow]

You have a spare apt?

Only bigshots -politicians, film stars - in India tend to have them (presumably, for their extra-currricular activities). Wassup SG?

[sgusa]

You have a spare apt?

Only bigshots -politicians, film stars - in India tend to have them (presumably, for their extra-currricular activities). Wassup SG?

hahaha. First need main curicular activity to make the other the "Extra" curicular!

[toney]

Such a serene soul! He knows all the answers.

Oh yeah ? Does he know where my spare apt keys are ??

You have a spare apt?

hahah. Spare keys to my apt. There. English Nazi!

lnow, yesgee is catering to the extra curricular activities of won mister gaytes; such people (the caterers) are olso verrry well off.