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[ramshorns]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/256922.html

Greg Chappell has brushed aside suggestions that he could be the man to coach Australia's national team once John Buchanan's successful tenure ends after the World Cup in May 2007. Chappell's current contract with the Indian team also expires around the same time, but he insisted that there had been no approach from Cricket Australia, or any word from the Indian board that his deal would not be extended.

"I haven't really followed the story," he told Cricinfo. "If Allan Border did say that, then I assume that they might be in the process of identifying candidates to succeed Buchanan. If the media want to pick up a quote and run with it, then that's their prerogative."

The Herald Sun had quoted Border, now a Cricket Australia director, as saying: "Tom Moody, Tim Nielsen, Greg Chappell is in the mix, Dav Whatmore is now coaching Bangladesh and he was a long-term coach at Sri Lanka. We've got a lot of good candidates for a tough job."

The story also suggested that Chappell's contract with the BCCI "will not be renewed by mutual arrangement". If that's the case, it's certainly news to Chappell, who said: "I'm just halfway through the job I have to do here. There have been no discussions yet with the BCCI about extending my contract, nor have they told me that there is no interest in an extension. As of now, I'm coach of the Indian team. That's my job, and my entire focus is on that. I'm really not interested in fanning the flames of mere speculation."

India have been in Sri Lanka over a week now, and have just one practice match and 22 balls of international cricket to show for their time here. Chappell admitted that it was a difficult situation for the players to wait around not knowing when they would get to play. With more rain predicted, this ill-fated tour could literally turn out to be a damp squib.


Border quotes.....

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/256911.html

Greg Chappell, the former Australian captain who is currently coaching India, has been shortlisted as one of the candidates to replace John Buchanan as the Australian coach. Buchanan's contract terminates after next year's World Cup in the West Indies and Chappell is one among the several names in the mix.

Allan Border, the former Australian captain and now the chairman of selectors, confirmed that the selection process was underway, after Buchanan had expressed his wish to step down after eight years. Besides Chappell, Moody and Whatmore - both former Australian cricketers currently coaching national sides - are also tipped for the post.

"John has decided that after the World Cup he is going to be moving on", Border told The Herald Sun. "Tom Moody, Tim Nielsen, Greg Chappell are in the mix, Dav Whatmore is now coaching Bangladesh and he was a long-term coach at Sri Lanka. We've got a lot of good candidates for a tough job."

Chappell's contract with the Indian board also expires after the World Cup and it's uncertain whether it will be renewed. However it is reported that Nielsen - currently the head coach of Australia's Centre of Excellence in Queensland - is one of the top contenders, having established a good rapport with the players during his stint as a performance analyst till last year.

Whatmore served two stints as coach of Sri Lanka, and was instrumental in the team's turnaround in 1996, which saw them win the World Cup for the first time. He took over as coach of Bangladesh in 2003, and the side has shown some improvement under his tenure, which included an ODI upset against Australia last year.

[Cernunnos]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/content/current/story/256922.html

Greg Chappell has brushed aside suggestions that he could be the man to coach Australia's national team once John Buchanan's successful tenure ends after the World Cup in May 2007. Chappell's current contract with the Indian team also expires around the same time, but he insisted that there had been no approach from Cricket Australia, or any word from the Indian board that his deal would not be extended.

"I haven't really followed the story," he told Cricinfo. "If Allan Border did say that, then I assume that they might be in the process of identifying candidates to succeed Buchanan. If the media want to pick up a quote and run with it, then that's their prerogative."

The Herald Sun had quoted Border, now a Cricket Australia director, as saying: "Tom Moody, Tim Nielsen, Greg Chappell is in the mix, Dav Whatmore is now coaching Bangladesh and he was a long-term coach at Sri Lanka. We've got a lot of good candidates for a tough job."

The story also suggested that Chappell's contract with the BCCI "will not be renewed by mutual arrangement". If that's the case, it's certainly news to Chappell, who said: "I'm just halfway through the job I have to do here. There have been no discussions yet with the BCCI about extending my contract, nor have they told me that there is no interest in an extension. As of now, I'm coach of the Indian team. That's my job, and my entire focus is on that. I'm really not interested in fanning the flames of mere speculation."

India have been in Sri Lanka over a week now, and have just one practice match and 22 balls of international cricket to show for their time here. Chappell admitted that it was a difficult situation for the players to wait around not knowing when they would get to play. With more rain predicted, this ill-fated tour could literally turn out to be a damp squib.


Border quotes.....

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/australia/content/current/story/256911.html

Greg Chappell, the former Australian captain who is currently coaching India, has been shortlisted as one of the candidates to replace John Buchanan as the Australian coach. Buchanan's contract terminates after next year's World Cup in the West Indies and Chappell is one among the several names in the mix.

Allan Border, the former Australian captain and now the chairman of selectors, confirmed that the selection process was underway, after Buchanan had expressed his wish to step down after eight years. Besides Chappell, Moody and Whatmore - both former Australian cricketers currently coaching national sides - are also tipped for the post.

"John has decided that after the World Cup he is going to be moving on", Border told The Herald Sun. "Tom Moody, Tim Nielsen, Greg Chappell are in the mix, Dav Whatmore is now coaching Bangladesh and he was a long-term coach at Sri Lanka. We've got a lot of good candidates for a tough job."

Chappell's contract with the Indian board also expires after the World Cup and it's uncertain whether it will be renewed. However it is reported that Nielsen - currently the head coach of Australia's Centre of Excellence in Queensland - is one of the top contenders, having established a good rapport with the players during his stint as a performance analyst till last year.

Whatmore served two stints as coach of Sri Lanka, and was instrumental in the team's turnaround in 1996, which saw them win the World Cup for the first time. He took over as coach of Bangladesh in 2003, and the side has shown some improvement under his tenure, which included an ODI upset against Australia last year.

[fineleg]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

[Libran]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

[VMenon]

Observing the events as they progressed over the past year or so, more so after the extracts of Wrights book have begun coming out, I have the sneaking feeling that Wright and Chappell have met and talked heart to heart before the later took over. As much as I am a SG fan I have the feeling Wright told Chappell “mate .. this kid (SG) is trouble.”
 I have heard stories from reliable stories that on India’s 2004 tour of Aus Ganguly and Chappell used to take walks round the ground talking.. Imagine !

[suraj]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

[Libran]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

[dextrous]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

As opposed to the objective hatred that pro-GC fans display 

[keep-it-cool]

pro-GC fans dont objectively or subjectively hate GC .. in case you missed it, they like the guy!!

[pieterSAN]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

I don't like the following guys

Mulayam Singh Yadav
Laloo Prasad
Jayalalitha
Bal Thackeray
Salman Khan

infer what you will.

[Libran]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

I don't like the following guys

Mulayam Singh Yadav
Laloo Prasad
Jayalalitha
Bal Thackeray
Salman Khan

infer what you will.

I infer that you basically don't like indians....

[dextrous]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

I don't like the following guys

Mulayam Singh Yadav
Laloo Prasad
Jayalalitha
Bal Thackeray
Salman Khan

infer what you will.

I infer that you basically don't like indians....

LOL! Ravi is on fire today!

[suraj]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

That you don't like GC is obvious but you still have not answered my question as to why you think GC is good for opponents in India- wht is the basis for that??

And how is not loathing GC the same as blind following of GC??

[Libran]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

That you don't like GC is obvious but you still have not answered my question as to why you think GC is good for opponents in India- wht is the basis for that??

And how is not loathing GC the same as blind following of GC??

1. Changed a good cricketer like IP into a guy who is groping in the dark
2. Made a hero out of Death Dancer Sreesanth
3. Ensured that Kaif holds the middle order to ransom by his wonderful pyrotechnics
4. Ensured that SA which had ne'er won or drawn a series did so after sucha long time and man...did they do it in style
5. Ensured that even a lowly WI crushed India 4-1 in the recent tour

And most important ...DIVIDED AN UNITED INDIAN CRICKET FAN BASE TO PRO AND ANTI GUYS

And all this talk of commitment to Indian cricket will take  a long walk once the Aussies dangle some green backs in front of his face....

[k-slice]

Ravi1010
1. IP is not groping in the dark. name one bowler who hasnt gone out of form in his career. GC was also instrumental in his batting skills coming to the fore. whether or not this was at the cost of his bowling is to be seen.
2. do you really disagree with the fact that SS is actually a decent bowler?
3.Kaif sucks-no disagreement there.
4. a coach cant be held responsible for the Safs doing what the did in india. i can also forgive that error considering he was new. lets see what happens when they come here next.
5.the west indies crushing us in inexcusible. if you blame GC for that then you should be equally fair and credit him for the win, albeit a close one in the test series.
as for the division of the team goes, just because there are pro Sg or anti Sg sentiments in the team it does not mean our team is divided. who cares two hoots about SG when the team is on the field and winning? i for sure dont. yes it would be awesome as hell to see him back but the reality is he isnt there right now and i support my team nonetheless. it is about time we started thinking that GC isnt here to make us a worse team. it is not in his self interest to do so. it gets tiring when anti chappel guys rave and rant at him just because of the sg scene. would your comments have been the same had he not been so vengeful to SG?

[keep-it-cool]

Ravi1010
1. IP is not groping in the dark. name one bowler who hasnt gone out of form in his career. GC was also instrumental in his batting skills coming to the fore. whether or not this was at the cost of his bowling is to be seen.
2. do you really disagree with the fact that SS is actually a decent bowler?
3.Kaif sucks-no disagreement there.
4. a coach cant be held responsible for the Safs doing what the did in india. i can also forgive that error considering he was new. lets see what happens when they come here next.
5.the west indies crushing us in inexcusible. if you blame GC for that then you should be equally fair and credit him for the win, albeit a close one in the test series.
as for the division of the team goes, just because there are pro Sg or anti Sg sentiments in the team it does not mean our team is divided. who cares two hoots about SG when the team is on the field and winning? i for sure dont. yes it would be awesome as hell to see him back but the reality is he isnt there right now and i support my team nonetheless. it is about time we started thinking that GC isnt here to make us a worse team. it is not in his self interest to do so. it gets tiring when anti chappel guys rave and rant at him just because of the sg scene. would your comments have been the same had he not been so vengeful to SG?

to add,
-Kaif was not GC's discovery - he was a mainstay even before GC came on board .. calls for Kaif's head were being made even before GC came on board .. they just got louder coz that was one of the spots SG could have attempted for in his comeback. So Kaif (for better or worse) is not GC's doing.
P.S. I dont agree that Kaif sucks .. but that is not relevant in this debate
-What horrors did SA wreak on us? Drawing an ODI series?? I mean, we are really searching, aren't we?

I am also sure Pakistan, England and SL have very fond memories of GC whenever the numbers 1-4, 1-5 and 1-6 come to mind. "What a relief", they must be saying!

[k-slice]

KIC
but the 1-4, 1-5, and 1-6 were not GC's doing. as i said, if we are quick to curse him for defeats we should be equally effusive with our praise for his efforts. i stil strongly think that the coach only has a periferral effect on what actually happens on the field. win o rlose eventually GC isnt the one playing or calling the shots on the field. and before our defeats are attributed to RD, who is a target of hate being the captain right after SG, lets be fair and state that there are 10 other players who can screw up. it wasnt like SG won battles, or lost 9 finals on his own was it? similarly wright wasnt the one who got the praise or the brickbats , then why GC/?

[keep-it-cool]

KIC
but the 1-4, 1-5, and 1-6 were not GC's doing. as i said, if we are quick to curse him for defeats we should be equally effusive with our praise for his efforts. i stil strongly think that the coach only has a periferral effect on what actually happens on the field. win o rlose eventually GC isnt the one playing or calling the shots on the field. and before our defeats are attributed to RD, who is a target of hate being the captain right after SG, lets be fair and state that there are 10 other players who can screw up. it wasnt like SG won battles, or lost 9 finals on his own was it? similarly wright wasnt the one who got the praise or the brickbats , then why GC/?

I am not saying those victories were GC's doing alone. This is just in context of Ravi's "hypothesis" / "conclusion" that "GC is the best thing that could have happened to opposition teams when they are playing India". Yeah, probably they may be saying .. 'thank God, GC was there .. else it may have been 0-5, 0-6 and 0-7"

[k-slice]

kic
i wasnt disagreeing with you. just being sarcastic. as i followe4d up and said, if we b***h at him for losses then we should praise him for wins. but then again the anti GC brigade has the ever present excuse that these wins were on subcontinental wickets. they easily discount the fact that they were against subcontinental teams who have a fair grip on how to play here. oh well such is life.

[Libran]

Ravi1010
1. IP is not groping in the dark. name one bowler who hasnt gone out of form in his career. GC was also instrumental in his batting skills coming to the fore. whether or not this was at the cost of his bowling is to be seen.
2. do you really disagree with the fact that SS is actually a decent bowler?
3.Kaif sucks-no disagreement there.
4. a coach cant be held responsible for the Safs doing what the did in india. i can also forgive that error considering he was new. lets see what happens when they come here next.
5.the west indies crushing us in inexcusible. if you blame GC for that then you should be equally fair and credit him for the win, albeit a close one in the test series.
as for the division of the team goes, just because there are pro Sg or anti Sg sentiments in the team it does not mean our team is divided. who cares two hoots about SG when the team is on the field and winning? i for sure dont. yes it would be awesome as hell to see him back but the reality is he isnt there right now and i support my team nonetheless. it is about time we started thinking that GC isnt here to make us a worse team. it is not in his self interest to do so. it gets tiring when anti chappel guys rave and rant at him just because of the sg scene. would your comments have been the same had he not been so vengeful to SG?

You must have noticed...my references have all been to ODIs....hence I did not bring up either the loss to Pak or the win in WI. Bcso, GC has been overtly or covertly been targetting only the WC. I did not bring the team into the equation bcos I do not have a clue on how they feel about this entire episode. I am referring to the fan base and the fact that it is almost akin to the India / Pak partition is a reality.

And honestly, if he had not been so vengeful, I would have definitely given him credit where it is due. Not nitpicking, and definitely not hypothetical...but if the same thing had been done by a Gavaskar to a Ricky Ponting, Aussies would have stood as one. There in lies the brittleness of Indians.

And we have beaten this topic to death and beyond...If it were any other other coach, he would have thrown these differences out  of the window and gone ahead with life. Not GC....SG has backed off..but GC has not given up as yet....and that to me smacks of arrogance going hand in hand with immaturity

[k-slice]

ravi1010
if ricky ponting had been an abject failure for 2 consecutive years i am sure no one would have said a thing had he been dropped. what i dislike is the fact that they dropped SG when he was doing decently well on his ocmeback. unfortunately, even if gc did suddenly let go of his vendetta, SG hasnt really moved mountains in the recent past to warrant a comeback. thats why i hope he forces his way back on the basis of runs rather than of GC letting go or pawar politicising things and getting him in.

[Libran]

kic
i wasnt disagreeing with you. just being sarcastic. as i followe4d up and said, if we b***h at him for losses then we should praise him for wins. but then again the anti GC brigade has the ever present excuse that these wins were on subcontinental wickets. they easily discount the fact that they were against subcontinental teams who have a fair grip on how to play here. oh well such is life.

If sub continental teams had a grip on how to play in conditions alien to home conditions, India would not be losing in SL and SL would have won more than one game in the last series played in India. The issue is not that. While India's victory cannot be played down, the fact remains that every "anti-SG" guy went to town that GC was the cause for the turnaround and when SA walloped India in Eden Gardens,the same GC was let to go scot free.

India has displayed the same consistency  or rather the lack of it between JW and GC. If we have been winning tests, we have been losing ODIs and vice versa and GC has been camouflaging these performances in Consulting jargon and "so-called" experimentations and "future" and "process". For this, we might have as well have got a McKinsey or a Bain Consulting to do the job..

[keep-it-cool]

India has displayed the same consistency  or rather the lack of it between JW and GC.

Wrong

[Libran]

India has displayed the same consistency  or rather the lack of it between JW and GC.

Wrong

okay

[k-slice]

ravi1010
towards the end of his time here, JW was losing more often than winning with the team. GC seems to have the balance sorta right: win a few then tank a few. keeps fans like us on oue toes you see!

[Libran]

Have my eyes begun playing games on me ??

every time I read the title....it reads as "..... GC is on the run" 

[k-slice]

ravi1010
time to go see the doctor. i think you suffer from a far more serious and life threatening condition commonly known as OCD or obsessive compulsive disorder. but dont worry in most cases this is a curable/treatable/managable condition.

[Libran]

ravi1010
time to go see the doctor. i think you suffer from a far more serious and life threatening condition commonly known as OCD or obsessive compulsive disorder. but dont worry in most cases this is a curable/treatable/managable condition.

Thanks mate...but, thankfully this is restricted only to this man ...also, my OC includes the need to slap that Grumpy 'ol guy...And my doctor says it is perfectly in order to feel so....he expects many more to join this category before Mar'07   

[MockTurtle]

Have my eyes begun playing games on me ??

every time I read the title....it reads as "..... GC is on the run" 

ROFL - i too read it the same. i think we suffer from the same ailment. 

[Libran]

Have my eyes begun playing games on me ??

every time I read the title....it reads as "..... GC is on the run" 

ROFL - i too read it the same. i think we suffer from the same ailment. 

  Hope it works as WYSIWYG

[k-slice]

and then all of you will have to line up to get slapped by greg post mar 07 when we win the world cup. unless ofcourse yoyu begin suffering from amnesia and forget ever hating him or you take the politicins route of nahi nahin yet to waqt waqt ki baat hain!

[MockTurtle]

and then all of you will have to line up to get slapped by greg post mar 07 when we win the world cup. unless ofcourse yoyu begin suffering from amnesia and forget ever hating him or you take the politicins route of nahi nahin yet to waqt waqt ki baat hain!

Oh, is Hair going to make the Aussies, SA, WI, England and NZ all forfeit their matches?   

i dislike him regardless of what he achieves or does not achieve. no rispikt from me for the character displayed so far.

[jaat69]

and then all of you will have to line up to get slapped by greg post mar 07 when we win the world cup. unless ofcourse yoyu begin suffering from amnesia and forget ever hating him or you take the politicins route of nahi nahin yet to waqt waqt ki baat hain!

you mean that the 'politician route' is meant only for a select few?

[ThankYouChappel]

Ravi1010
1. IP is not groping in the dark. name one bowler who hasnt gone out of form in his career. GC was also instrumental in his batting skills coming to the fore. whether or not this was at the cost of his bowling is to be seen.
2. do you really disagree with the fact that SS is actually a decent bowler?
3.Kaif sucks-no disagreement there.
4. a coach cant be held responsible for the Safs doing what the did in india. i can also forgive that error considering he was new. lets see what happens when they come here next.
5.the west indies crushing us in inexcusible. if you blame GC for that then you should be equally fair and credit him for the win, albeit a close one in the test series.
as for the division of the team goes, just because there are pro Sg or anti Sg sentiments in the team it does not mean our team is divided. who cares two hoots about SG when the team is on the field and winning? i for sure dont. yes it would be awesome as hell to see him back but the reality is he isnt there right now and i support my team nonetheless. it is about time we started thinking that GC isnt here to make us a worse team. it is not in his self interest to do so. it gets tiring when anti chappel guys rave and rant at him just because of the sg scene. would your comments have been the same had he not been so vengeful to SG?

You must have noticed...my references have all been to ODIs....hence I did not bring up either the loss to Pak or the win in WI. Bcso, GC has been overtly or covertly been targetting only the WC. I did not bring the team into the equation bcos I do not have a clue on how they feel about this entire episode. I am referring to the fan base and the fact that it is almost akin to the India / Pak partition is a reality.

And honestly, if he had not been so vengeful, I would have definitely given him credit where it is due. Not nitpicking, and definitely not hypothetical...but if the same thing had been done by a Gavaskar to a Ricky Ponting, Aussies would have stood as one. There in lies the brittleness of Indians.

And we have beaten this topic to death and beyond...If it were any other other coach, he would have thrown these differences out  of the window and gone ahead with life. Not GC....SG has backed off..but GC has not given up as yet....and that to me smacks of arrogance going hand in hand with immaturity

yesh India-Pak divide.. just because SG got dropped.. now you will hold the country for ransom for the sake of unity.. Bengali's played this long enough already..

LACK OF RUNS man LACK OF RUNS..
Just before he got dropped, he was finding it hard to walk even after getting bowled.. like a deer in the headlights.. He sucked for 2 full years..

[jaat69]

LACK OF RUNS man LACK OF RUNS..
Just before he got dropped, he was finding it hard to walk even after getting bowled.. like a deer in the headlights.. He sucked for 2 full years..

He sucked for only 2 years.......and suck all the while......and yet we suffer you!

[justforkix]

I am also sure Pakistan, England and SL have very fond memories of GC whenever the numbers 1-4, 1-5 and 1-6 come to mind. "What a relief", they must be saying!

KIC : FYI, we are not discussing about minnows here 

[dhruvdeepak]

I am also sure Pakistan, England and SL have very fond memories of GC whenever the numbers 1-4, 1-5 and 1-6 come to mind. "What a relief", they must be saying!

KIC : FYI, we are not discussing about minnows here 

all except zimbabwe who dont count as minnows as it was an away series hence we were actually the minnows 

[pieterSAN]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

I don't like the following guys

Mulayam Singh Yadav
Laloo Prasad
Jayalalitha
Bal Thackeray
Salman Khan

infer what you will.

I infer that you basically don't like indians....

Just saw this...and I'll say your deductions are simply BRILLLIANT!!!

[Libran]

For all you GC antagonists help is probably on the way.  Don't get your hopes up but it could happen.....Read on....Now give me some love baby

Ha-Ha-Ha ! I haven't laughed like this for years !

The chances of GC ever becoming the Aussie coach is even less than me winning a $50 million lottery.
Border is smart. With this statement he has overvalued GC, ensuring that GC will be India's coach when they tour Aus next.

Not sure abt the valuation. But GC being India's coach is not a bad thing - unless ofcourse if ur a GC antagonist.

GC is the best thing that could have happened ...to opposition teams when they are playing India...Sure, I loathe the sight of that Grumpy 'ol nit wit. But, I am a strong Indian cricket protagonist too !! and that is why it hurts

that is just blind hatred. Granted that SL and Eng were weak but we still won so strongly against them in India and tied with SA- I can buy that maybe some still question that GC's greatness was not the reason but to say that his being the Indian coach is the best thing for opponents is not backed by any reality and makes no sense to me at all.

Neither does the blind following of GC and his untested and cacophonic methods....and I have qualified my statement by stating that I don't hate....I loathe that guy...and I ne'er liked the following too

1. Dean Jones
2. Darren Lehman
3. Darrell Hair
4. Mel Gibson
5. Michael Slater

Go figure 

I don't like the following guys

Mulayam Singh Yadav
Laloo Prasad
Jayalalitha
Bal Thackeray
Salman Khan

infer what you will.

I infer that you basically don't like indians....

Just saw this...and I'll say your deductions are simply BRILLLIANT!!!

Why else would i be discussing with you...Brilliance meets brilliance..occasionally

[keep-it-cool]

I am also sure Pakistan, England and SL have very fond memories of GC whenever the numbers 1-4, 1-5 and 1-6 come to mind. "What a relief", they must be saying!

KIC : FYI, we are not discussing about minnows here 

all except zimbabwe who dont count as minnows as it was an away series hence we were actually the minnows 

LOL