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[ruchir]

http://cricket.expressindia.com/fulliestory.php?content_id=9079

‘What hurt most was there was nobody to tell me what was going wrong’
J P YADAV

Posted online: Sunday, July 23, 2006 at 0000 hours IST

I always thought that being dropped after a couple of one-dayers against the West Indies in 2002-03 was the most painful moment of my career. But that was until I was dropped after the series against South Africa last October.

Maybe, I didn’t fit in the team’s scheme and I have no regrets. But what hurt most was there was nobody to tell me what was going wrong. The captain, the coach, the selectors, somebody should have spoken to me.

Is it that I wasn’t bowling or fielding well in the nets or I wasn’t delivering water properly? I understand that I wasn’t fitting into Greg Chappell’s Vision 2007. But someone, at least the Central Zone selector, needed to tell me what I needed to improve upon. Was I supposed to hit sixes like Dhoni, or swing the ball like Pathan? Someone could have explained this to me.

It becomes very frustrating when you are dropped, when there’s no domestic cricket going on. All I do is go to the gym in the morning and train a little in the evening. The rest of the time is spent thinking what I need to do to try and make a comeback. Believe me, it is maddening when 10 things come to your mind and there’s nobody to talk to you about what needs to be done.

(As told to K Shriniwas Rao)

[jaat69]

Hmmmm....already an out-burst?!
Coming too soon, I'd say.
But this guy is really talented and needs to be persevered with.

[proloy]

Believe me, it is maddening when 10 things come to your mind and there’s nobody to talk to you about what needs to be done.

Aww, that's simple. He just has to grow younger, and fit into Chappell's young men's cricketing association.

[prfsr]

No Jaat, no "already". He is not in the "scheme of things" and he knows.

Well JPY, for a brief brief period, you were "the future of Indian cricket". As you know the future becomes the past in an instant, and that's what you are now. OLD. Go raise your grandkids.

And tell them how the process improved your life.
-P

PS: I never thought he was really that good. But he did go from future to past pretty quick.

[Aloo Kashmiri Ul Haq]

persevered with? we are not even discussing him on the DG (until this thread) what makes you think that the selectors even mention his name at meetings. it's bull* the treatment that he was given

i don't know what's the definition of an all rounder for the indian selectors, they need to beeping define an all rounder first, pehle pathan fir ganguly, mongia. it's almost like they are making it incumbent upon a certain players to become all rounders rather than  choosing the ones who are already all rounders

[suraj]

This is sad indeed

[fineleg]

It is not that JPY needed to be kept in the team - but atleast someone should have told him that this is the reason why he is no longer part of the squad. No substitute for clear communication in such situations.

Seems like a mismanaged case.

[Aloo Kashmiri Ul Haq]

It is not that JPY needed to be kept in the team - but atleast someone should have told him that this is the reason why he is no longer part of the squad. No substitute for clear communication in such situations.

Seems like a mismanaged case.

yeah yalaka rao should have been kept in the team, him along with 6 pacers because after all we can always have gabbas in india 

[prfsr]

Wasn't it KM who said (in the context of SG) something like "we do not talk to cricketers" (about their non-selection)?

-P

[justforkix]

Well - JP Yadav was fitting the 5th bowler and all rounder tag well bowling tidy military medium. Unfortunately, IP felt threatened and so also started bowling military medium and batting well too. So, when the choice was between IP and JPY, the selectors chose IP. Simple JPY - you TL 

[achutank]

there was this one standout match against new zealand in zimb tour where we were down 7-8 wickets for double digits chasing, and JP along with pathan nearly took us there. this was before all this talk about pathan being an allrounder and young blood. JP was a better robin in my mind, and i have always been a great admirer of robin for his approach and team spirit and he had that certain composure that the bevan type players have.weneed a bevan and no matter how much chappel is going to try, raina has a long way to becoming one.

IMO JP should have beeen persisted with, alas too late for the poor soul. he is not even in the A-side

[chetan]

it is maddening when 10 things come to your mind and there’s nobody to talk to you

(As told to K Shriniwas Rao)

someone please invite him to this DG

[prfsr]

someone please invite him to this DG

YES! Applause.
-P
 

[justforkix]

JPY is a good option to have for WC07 in the WI pitches.

[achutank]

jfk: wouldn't agree more

especially after seeing bravo's performance with the ball

[rajesh]

I was talking about JPy with worma and GK some 6 to 8 months back on this or previous DG and how his case was mismanaged ..

He was ill treated even in the SL series when he was not given a game ..

Worma (Jpy himself) told  that JPY is in the schema of things and he will get his chances based on teh process chappell or RD is having ..

This guy is the allrounder indian team needs .. and that too on these slow low SL or Wi wickets where it is difficult to score runs of his bowling ..

I wanted JPY instead of kaif before and even now my views are the same ..
With raina still in his formative years .. JPy shld be there ..
This guy could atleast be a robin, just that we don't treat our allrounders well ..

[sudzz]

There is no denying that this guy has been given a very poor treatment and it is patently unfair when we have been experimenting with a whole host of all rounder (remember KM even classed Agarkar as a all rounder to suit his convenience).

This guy I feel can still deliver the goods and most importantly though he is a military medium pace bowler, he does swing it a bit and at times get some late seam movement as well so might have made sense to have him in the squad for the mud flats of Srilanka.

Having had said all that he is definetly not our answer to all our all rounder worries, we need someone far better (alas IP is a potential wasted) but JPY will not fit the requirement for sure. Its not about skill or temprament its more to do with the fact that he has not done enough to capture anyone's imagination in a manner say a Raina or Dhoni has.

[RicePlateReddy]

While I don't believe JP Yadav should be in the Indian team, I agree 100% with his sentiments. I don't believe this is an emotional outburst any more than it is a logical question, rhetorically posed.

Have all formerly key players been told why they are not in the team and what exactly they need to do to improve? Zaheer Khan, Ganguly? Have any of them been advised by the powers that be on what games they should play (e.g. county circuit in England) and where to concentrate?

There is a serious vacuum in leadership (and between the ears of our chief selector). You become a leading team only if you grow your player base positively by communicating well with the players.

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

[suraj]

While I don't believe JP Yadav should be in the Indian team, I agree 100% with his sentiments. I don't believe this is an emotional outburst any more than it is a logical question, rhetorically posed.

Have all formerly key players been told why they are not in the team and what exactly they need to do to improve? Zaheer Khan, Ganguly? Have any of them been advised by the powers that be on what games they should play (e.g. county circuit in England) and where to concentrate?

There is a serious vacuum in leadership (and between the ears of our chief selector). You become a leading team only if you grow your player base positively by communicating well with the players.

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

This is a collective fault of administration at central and local level

[justforkix]

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

I think ICC should intervene and fine JPY for excessive appealing 

[suraj]

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

I think ICC should intervene and fine JPY for excessive appealing 

 

Applaud- hilarious one-liner!!!

[achutank]

While I don't believe JP Yadav should be in the Indian team, I agree 100% with his sentiments. I don't believe this is an emotional outburst any more than it is a logical question, rhetorically posed.

Have all formerly key players been told why they are not in the team and what exactly they need to do to improve? Zaheer Khan, Ganguly? Have any of them been advised by the powers that be on what games they should play (e.g. county circuit in England) and where to concentrate?

There is a serious vacuum in leadership (and between the ears of our chief selector). You become a leading team only if you grow your player base positively by communicating well with the players.

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

This is a collective fault of administration at central and local level

oh you are talking abt jp there suraj. for a moment i thought you were an NGO commenting after yet another mumbai disaster.

[suraj]

While I don't believe JP Yadav should be in the Indian team, I agree 100% with his sentiments. I don't believe this is an emotional outburst any more than it is a logical question, rhetorically posed.

Have all formerly key players been told why they are not in the team and what exactly they need to do to improve? Zaheer Khan, Ganguly? Have any of them been advised by the powers that be on what games they should play (e.g. county circuit in England) and where to concentrate?

There is a serious vacuum in leadership (and between the ears of our chief selector). You become a leading team only if you grow your player base positively by communicating well with the players.

JP Yadav is spot on, and by virtue of his 'outburst' he has guaranteed that he won't be selected again. Heck. I will be positively surprised if they don't discipline him for this.

This is a collective fault of administration at central and local level

oh you are talking abt jp there suraj. for a moment i thought you were an NGO commenting after yet another mumbai disaster.