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[jks61]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2011/content/current/story/549538.html
Dhoni banned from Adelaide Test for slow over-rate

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January 15, 2012
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MS Dhoni has been banned for the Adelaide Test after India were found to be two overs short of the required over-rate during the Perth Test. India bowled 76 overs in 362 minutes in the only innings they bowled in at the WACA ground. This is India's second over-rate offence in the last 12 months. Dhoni had been on notice after India had been found short in the West Indies in June-July last year. The rule regarding the over-rate offences was changed last June wherein the second offence within 12 months began to merit a ban for the captain. Earlier, captains were allowed three offences.

Virender Sehwag, the vice-captain, is expected to lead the side in Adelaide. Wriddhiman Saha, the back-up wicketkeeper, will take over the gloves.

More to follow...

[jks61]

In the grand scheme of things, it won't matter. Saha gets to play a game and can't do any better or worse than MSD, the test batsman. Also, as far as Viru inspiring from the front as captain, you can forget it. The team is psychologically wrecked and there are deep divisions and suspicions. Everyone is waiting for this to be over and each player is looking at how can he wash all this with IPL5 money. Retirement speeches are being written and the saddest part of all this will be - just like the big 3 in the spin quartette had to leave after being shamed by Zaheer Abbas and Javed Miandad, the big 3 of India batting will split..
  RS will play in place of VVS and Vinay can tell his grand kids that he bowled for India in one of the bounciest wickets in the world (in the only test he played).

[RicePlateReddy]

This is hilarious.

The test barely lasted 3 days. And he has been banned for a slow over rate  If India bowled a faster over rate, perhaps the match wouldn't even had lasted 2 days. Or, assuming that to achieve this the bowling would have been forced to be crappy with part-time spinners, the Australia's innings would have dominated for 2.5 days and the match would have lasted 4 days.

Over rate penalties should kick in only if it appears the delays were unsportsmanlike and could have even remotely have affected the match result.

[Cernunnos]

In the grand scheme of things, it won't matter. Saha gets to play a game and can't do any better or worse than MSD, the test batsman. Also, as far as Viru inspiring from the front as captain, you can forget it. The team is psychologically wrecked and there are deep divisions and suspicions. Everyone is waiting for this to be over and each player is looking at how can he wash all this with IPL5 money. Retirement speeches are being written and the saddest part of all this will be - just like the big 3 in the spin quartette had to leave after being shamed by Zaheer Abbas and Javed Miandad, the big 3 of India batting will split..
  RS will play in place of VVS and Vinay can tell his grand kids that he bowled for India in one of the bounciest wickets in the world (in the only test he played).

I agree making Sehwag captain will be ludicrous at this moment, but that's how it will be. There is only person in Australia capable of leading the team at the moment, and providence has created an opening for it - but then some will say the suggestion will reek of bhakti, so I won't make it. I doubt VVS will be dropped, maybe they will make RD keep, so that the extra batsman (VVS) can be fitted. If VVS opens, Sehwag could come down the order.

[Cernunnos]

This is hilarious.

The test barely lasted 3 days. And he has been banned for a slow over rate  If India bowled a faster over rate, perhaps the match wouldn't even had lasted 2 days. Or, assuming that to achieve this the bowling would have been forced to be crappy with part-time spinners, the Australia's innings would have dominated for 2.5 days and the match would have lasted 4 days.

Over rate penalties should kick in only if it appears the delays were unsportsmanlike and could have even remotely have affected the match result.

Completely agree, but this is Madugalle, what do you expect?

[jks61]

I am not sure how the teams of yester years got through 90 overs with such longer run ups. In fact, they used to do this so casually..for example, let us take this famous tied test in 1960
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/62888.html
WI batted for some time on day 5 and after that they got in 68 - 8 ball overs - that is 90 - 6 ball overs. I know for a fact that when Hall ran in to bowl that famous last ball, the clock struck 6pm...isn't amazing..

[Blwe_torch]

Murphy's law..........when things go bad.....every other things go bad too.
This break may do well for Dhoni to introspect.
Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

p.s- no need to show the world...just show the rest of the indians...

[Blwe_torch]

Madugalle...............why these sub-continental guys are so keen to suck up to these whites?!!
Colonial hang-over? .............may be, ............we have a few on this DG too.........ready to suck up, given half an opportunity.

and sir jks61.........................................the Big 3 of Indian cricket is already a thing of the past...VVS, doesn't belong there

[ramshorns]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you go down that route think again.

[Blwe_torch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

[ramshorns]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

[achutank]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

great so you go down the name calling route again


you are a hypocrite and a childish one at that, why don't you have a name foe vvs now that he has been playing like the way you write posts since the english series

[Blwe_torch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

But he was not from Bengal to start with...and was not Ganguly's choice. He had a good domestic record. And even at the worst of times he scored a century in South Africa when the rest of the team capitulated...like they are doing off late. He was a fighter anyway.
Ganguly considered him at a later stage for the duel purpose of opening and wicket keeping, thus freeing up another place for a bowler or an all-rounder...............just as he did in the ODIs with Rahul Dravid.

[cricinfo]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

But he was not from Bengal to start with...and was not Ganguly's choice. He had a good domestic record. And even at the worst of times he scored a century in South Africa when the rest of the team capitulated...like they are doing off late. He was a fighter anyway.
Ganguly considered him at a later stage for the duel purpose of opening and wicket keeping, thus freeing up another place for a bowler or an all-rounder...............just as he did in the ODIs with Rahul Dravid.

so to summarise you are sayiing VVS sucks ...just making sure

[ramshorns]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

But he was not from Bengal to start with...and was not Ganguly's choice. He had a good domestic record. And even at the worst of times he scored a century in South Africa when the rest of the team capitulated...like they are doing off late. He was a fighter anyway.
Ganguly considered him at a later stage for the duel purpose of opening and wicket keeping, thus freeing up another place for a bowler or an all-rounder...............just as he did in the ODIs with Rahul Dravid.

I thought you were talking about players from EZ being ignored not specifically from Bengal.  If he is not from Bengal I am sure he has some roots from there and played for EZ, so it does not matter.  Whatever the reasons he got selected he got a long enough rope for a player of his calibre( one can easily accuse Ganguly played favorites).  So next time do not play the victim because others can do that too.

[Blwe_torch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

But he was not from Bengal to start with...and was not Ganguly's choice. He had a good domestic record. And even at the worst of times he scored a century in South Africa when the rest of the team capitulated...like they are doing off late. He was a fighter anyway.
Ganguly considered him at a later stage for the duel purpose of opening and wicket keeping, thus freeing up another place for a bowler or an all-rounder...............just as he did in the ODIs with Rahul Dravid.

I thought you were talking about players from EZ being ignored not specifically from Bengal.  If he is not from Bengal I am sure he has some roots from there and played for EZ, so it does not matter.  Whatever the reasons he got selected he got a long enough rope for a player of his calibre( one can easily accuse Ganguly played favorites).  So next time do not play the victim because others can do that too.

Deep Dasgupta is basically from Delhi with no roots in Bengal....he may have some roots in Bangladesh, where his grandparents migrated from.
Much later in his career...much after his Test career ended, he shifted to Bengal for Ranji trophy.
Ganguly was never known for favoritism...or parochialism unlike the greats from western and southern zones, I am sorry to add.

[ramshorns]

Ganguly was never known for favoritism...or parochialism unlike the greats from western and southern zones, I am sorry to add.

While you accuse others zones of parochialism it is that very fact one can argue when Dalalmiya was BCCI president from Bengal that Ganguly was promoted to be a captain and stayed there for 5 years despite averaging 35.  So how if one turns around and blame EZ bias for that?  Can easily be done.  Look there are selectoral goof ups and every zone has victims given the vast populus of India and competition being cut throat. I do not see a SRT or VVS talent from EZ being ignored.  Let us put it that way.

[Blwe_torch]

Ganguly was never known for favoritism...or parochialism unlike the greats from western and southern zones, I am sorry to add.

While you accuse others zones of parochialism it is that very fact one can argue when Dalalmiya was BCCI president from Bengal that Ganguly was promoted to be a captain and stayed there for 5 years despite averaging 35.  So how if one turns around and blame EZ bias for that?  Can easily be done.  Look there are selectoral goof ups and every zone has victims given the vast populus of India and competition being cut throat. I do not see a SRT or VVS talent from EZ being ignored.  Let us put it that way.

well, I don't think he was selected when Dalmiya was the Board president.........someone else was...I don't remember exactly.
And even if he was, selecting one talented, deserving player is not what you call regional bias.
Regional bias is something which Vishy did, when he had 6 or 7 players( not all of them deserving) from Karnataka in the Indian team.
Even Sunil Gavasker during his hey-days manipulated selections........and many ordinary players from the west zone represented India.

[ganavk]

Gautam Gambhir is my choice for captaining this side in Adelaide ( sadly this won't happen because VS is our vice captain) especially how V Sehwag gave up captaincy in the past to Gambhir.
GG to open with RD , Kohli at # 3 , Sehwag at # 5 , Rohit at # 6 . of course SRT's #4 cannot be touched 

Wish we had the imagination to change the order at least in the second innings of the Perth WACA. How about sending SRT as opener ..cannot take the heat ? and VVS as # 3 ? may be at least we would have tried something different.

[cricinfo]

Gautam Gambhir is my choice for captaining this side in Adelaide ( sadly this won't happen because VS is our vice captain) especially how V Sehwag gave up captaincy in the past to Gambhir.
GG to open with RD , Kohli at # 3 , Sehwag at # 5 , Rohit at # 6 . of course SRT's #4 cannot be touched 

Wish we had the imagination to change the order at least in the second innings of the Perth WACA. How about sending SRT as opener ..cannot take the heat ? and VVS as # 3 ? may be at least we would have tried something different.

good points, worth a try

[dhruvdeepak]

This is hilarious.

The test barely lasted 3 days. And he has been banned for a slow over rate  If India bowled a faster over rate, perhaps the match wouldn't even had lasted 2 days. Or, assuming that to achieve this the bowling would have been forced to be crappy with part-time spinners, the Australia's innings would have dominated for 2.5 days and the match would have lasted 4 days.

Over rate penalties should kick in only if it appears the delays were unsportsmanlike and could have even remotely have affected the match result.

poor mr madugalle is just taking pity on the Indian fan and giving us a fresh face to throw tomatoes at.

the entire match lasted 200 overs, which is about as long as Clarke batted in the previous game. why isnt Pup also brought up in front of the ref?

[ramshorns]

Ganguly was never known for favoritism...or parochialism unlike the greats from western and southern zones, I am sorry to add.

While you accuse others zones of parochialism it is that very fact one can argue when Dalalmiya was BCCI president from Bengal that Ganguly was promoted to be a captain and stayed there for 5 years despite averaging 35.  So how if one turns around and blame EZ bias for that?  Can easily be done.  Look there are selectoral goof ups and every zone has victims given the vast populus of India and competition being cut throat. I do not see a SRT or VVS talent from EZ being ignored.  Let us put it that way.

well, I don't think he was selected when Dalmiya was the Board president.........someone else was...I don't remember exactly.
And even if he was, selecting one talented, deserving player is not what you call regional bias.
Regional bias is something which Vishy did, when he had 6 or 7 players( not all of them deserving) from Karnataka in the Indian team.
Even Sunil Gavasker during his hey-days manipulated selections........and many ordinary players from the west zone represented India.

Once you go down the path of accusing others of Zonal bias you cannot dictate what the rules for determining regional bias is(You can say so and so is undeserving and on the same token I can say Ganguly did not deserve to lead India - It is an easy gig).  When you accuse WZ, SZ of bias then what about the two skippers coming from the East Zone(Ganguly, MSD) a zone that never had strong domestic sides in comparison to other zones you are questioning. I agree there will be border line calls made on various players at all times but there is not credence to your statement that somehow only EZ suffered or singled out. 

[feverpitch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

Deep Dasgupta of Delhi, North Zone, you mean. And your point was?

[Blwe_torch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

Deep Dasgupta of Delhi, North Zone, you mean. And your point was?

he is basically ignorant and blind with hatred..

[feverpitch]

Good opportunity for the talented Wriddhiman Saha.................go ahead...show the world...that East zone guys are no push-overs or quota candidates like the rest of India.

I am sure the above is collective wisdom of you and your colleagues at work without access to facts because I am also sure you do not know that both Ganguly and MSD the two who led India recently are from EZ.  A case can be made about the supposed East Zone bias then.  And what about Ganguly being a quota candidate back in the day?  So before you down that route think again.

Access to facts?......Everyone has access to facts nowadays.......these 2 guys were made captain thanks to their merit. Many other talented players have perished...or side-lined  in favour of the Noel Davids, etc

Yes Deep * Gupta that opened for India was a great talent for example.

Deep Dasgupta of Delhi, North Zone, you mean. And your point was?

he is basically ignorant and blind with hatred..

And still can't write one grammatically correct, meaningful sentence in English.

[dhruvdeepak]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/28146.html

heh? this guy was from Delhi?


Full name Deep Biplab Dasgupta

Born June 7, 1977, Calcutta (now Kolkata), Bengal

Current age 34 years 223 days

Major teams India, Bengal, Kolkata Tigers



and he always played for East Zone as i remember at the same time as MSD

[feverpitch]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/28146.html

heh? this guy was from Delhi?


Full name Deep Biplab Dasgupta

Born June 7, 1977, Calcutta (now Kolkata), Bengal

Current age 34 years 223 days

Major teams India, Bengal, Kolkata Tigers



and he always played for East Zone as i remember at the same time as MSD

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardar_Patel_Vidyalaya

The school has football, basketball, volleyball and cricket teams, and has produced many top class cricketers who have played for the national or the Ranji squads, including Ajay Jadeja, Rahul Sanghvi, Gagan Khoda, Deep Dasgupta, Murali Kartik, and Vivek Razdan.

Deep might have been born in Kolkata, but shifted to Delhi when his father got transferred. He was in the Delhi squad, as far as I can recall, when he was lured back to play for Bengal.

[Blwe_torch]

The info in Wiki/ESPN is very much incomplete....he was from the Delhi side, I remember very well....and had nothing to do with Bengal at that time.
He has done is first class debut in 1998...........and yet his record in ESPN/ cricinfo website is being shown from late 2007. Initially, he represented Delhi and not BENGAL.
But if he was born in Kolkata, that is definitely news to me...I didn't know about this............and I guessed that like most Bengalis from Delhi, his family belonged to the erstwhile east pakistan

[dhruvdeepak]

wow talk about a whole hearted dis-owning.

i didnt know he was that bad. he has never played for Delhi according to CI and cricketarchive. i am sure they are wrong and you are right. must have been present at the hospital during his birth and checked out his lineage also.

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/Other_matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/First-Class_Matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/List_A_Matches.html

never mind, i stepped on some touchy subject by mistake and dont want anything to do with this nonsense anymore.

[RicePlateReddy]

wow talk about a whole hearted dis-owning.

i didnt know he was that bad. he has never played for Delhi according to CI and cricketarchive. i am sure they are wrong and you are right. must have been present at the hospital during his birth and checked out his lineage also.

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/Other_matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/First-Class_Matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/List_A_Matches.html

never mind, i stepped on some touchy subject by mistake and dont want anything to do with this nonsense anymore.

Good one.

[dextrous]

Is he really banned? I don't see it on cricinfo

[Cernunnos]

wow talk about a whole hearted dis-owning.

i didnt know he was that bad. he has never played for Delhi according to CI and cricketarchive. i am sure they are wrong and you are right. must have been present at the hospital during his birth and checked out his lineage also.

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/Other_matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/First-Class_Matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/List_A_Matches.html

never mind, i stepped on some touchy subject by mistake and dont want anything to do with this nonsense anymore.

Deep Das Gupta learnt all his cricket in Delhi, possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady. He represented Delhi in Vijay Merchant trophy.

[vijay]

wow talk about a whole hearted dis-owning.

i didnt know he was that bad. he has never played for Delhi according to CI and cricketarchive. i am sure they are wrong and you are right. must have been present at the hospital during his birth and checked out his lineage also.

http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/Other_matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/First-Class_Matches.html
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/10/10429/List_A_Matches.html

never mind, i stepped on some touchy subject by mistake and dont want anything to do with this nonsense anymore.

Deep Das Gupta learnt all his cricket in Delhi, possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady. He represented Delhi in Vijay Merchant trophy.

Weak come back. If it has been established that he played FC cricket for Bengal and EZ, then there is no point trying to cover it all up by arguing where he was when he was in diapers. A better argument might be that at the time Deep Dasgupta was picked on the merits (contrast with SRT's Noel David pick or Gavaskar's Suru Nayak pick). At that time Dasgupta was competing with the likes of Ajay Ratra for the wicket keeper spot and he was also being used as an opener because India did not have a specialist in that role. And the guy did score a 100. Compare that to other fringe player picks.

[RicePlateReddy]

possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady.

It shows. He is playing for the wrong team!

[kban1]

possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady.

It shows. He is playing for the wrong team!

Rhetoric / sarcasm aside, thats a pretty poor comment just becuse of the inherent sexism therein.

[ramshorns]

possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady.

It shows. He is playing for the wrong team!

He might as well and no one would have cared.

[RicePlateReddy]

possibly the only Indian test cricketer coached by a lady.

It shows. He is playing for the wrong team!

Rhetoric / sarcasm aside, thats a pretty poor comment just becuse of the inherent sexism therein.

Political correctness gone overboard. Have you seen an international woman's cricket match? I have - at a ground, sitting in with the team batting. Cricket is not at all a popular sport with women resulting in woeful standards even at the international level. To say someone plays cricket like a woman is not sexist if one observes that the standard in women's cricket is abysmal due to lack of interest and support. Now I do realize I was being charitable to Deep Dasgupta.

[kban1]

Political correctness gone overboard. Have you seen an international woman's cricket match? I have - at a ground, sitting in with the team batting. Cricket is not at all a popular sport with women resulting in woeful standards even at the international level. To say someone plays cricket like a woman is not sexist if one observes that the standard in women's cricket is abysmal due to lack of interest and support. Now I do realize I was being charitable to Deep Dasgupta.

I have seen an international women's cricket match. And those players would handily beat a DG XI, I would venture to say. This has nothing to do with that.

Your comment was a sarcastic dig --involing his coach's gender as justification, and deserves to be called out for its sexism --this is not political correctness gone amok, which initself is a favorite neo slogan meant to deflect  legitimate criticism.

Perhaps you should check with the lady who serves as physical conditioning coach for the NZ cricket team. Or the lady who worked with RP singh when he played county cricket -- the stint which helped him develop the proper muscles and improved his kinetics which were together responsible for his improvement as a bowler.

Or perhaps look around international sporting arenas and see women in all kinds of sporting endeavors. While they will not beat their male counterparts at the professional level, they will handily beat a significant number of guys in that chosen field any day of the week.

Maybe your talents at cricket make you an exception to the above  -- but all said and done, deriding a coach on the basis of her gender because Deep Das Gupta was a *ty keeper and because some on the DG irked you about what his home state is, remains sexist.

[RicePlateReddy]

Ganguly too should have used a woman cricket coach. That would have worked wonders to his makeup.

[kban1]

I suppose you need a woman as a target to sharpen your wit and practice your abuses.   

Note to SCG:  If you are reading this, please hire a woman coach ASAP. Some in the DG are worried you are not pretty enough