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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2012, 01:42:30 AM »
Really disappointed in lax man. Time to retire.

It's inexcusable that someone on his 4th tour to Aus has scores of 1,2,2. 
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2012, 01:48:22 AM »
Really disappointed in lax man. Time to retire.
It's inexcusable that someone on his 4th tour to Aus has scores of 1,2,2.
Why? Ganguly played as a captain averagng 35 for 5 years with a lot of single digit scores in them.  Best of players fail and VVS had a terrible 3 innings to begin the tour.  The guy has scores of 167, 178 and 109 on this very ground.  So save your inexcusable crap for Ganguly's of the world who should never have played 113 as Test player to begin with leave alone lead with 35 average for 5 years. 
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2012, 01:50:09 AM »
Ganguly crediting Akash Chopra - nice to hear.
hmm..wasn't Chopra dropped in the very next series for not scoring fast enough ?
Haha...He sure did many follies in his captaincy before GC set him straight.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2012, 01:52:00 AM »
SRT who has been composed till now, seems to try something dangerous. Fortunately this time, did not lose a wicket. Will be a big test or opportunity for Kohli. Whether he can do something here or he fails again will be pretty important.

Kohli looking the second best batsman so far.
Better than having a Ganguly at that No.6 spot in situations like this.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2012, 01:56:49 AM »
Really disappointed in lax man. Time to retire.
The man sure would if he does not click on this tour and he should retire IMO and will.  That England tour was the first bad tour VVS had in 3 years and should he fail on this tour I do not see him continuing at 37 though one can always say players like RD too got a long rope when he was off color for 2-3 years.  But my take is VVS should retire.  EOD.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2012, 01:58:24 AM »
VVS needs to retire.

Better now than being shunted out. He will not make a come back and prove he is good enough like what a Ganguly did. He is of the GRV variety.. Once he is out of the team.. that is it.

Rohit Sharma has been a bride in waiting for sometime now.It is better to try him lest he goes the Badrinath route

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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2012, 02:04:08 AM »
VVS needs to retire.

Better now than being shunted out. He will not make a come back and prove he is good enough like what a Ganguly did. He is of the GRV variety.. Once he is out of the team.. that is it.

Rohit Sharma has been a bride in waiting for sometime now.It is better to try him lest he goes the Badrinath route

I think it may be premature to talk of retirement. I expect a stronger showing in the second innings. But yes, these failures cannot be condoned.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2012, 02:17:48 AM »
Guys, we have had a top class middle order and an effective opener in Gambhir and a destructive one in Sehwag. So,
it will be difficult to replace. Now when I think of what is amazing about SRT, one of the things is he has been playing
at top gear for an amazing length of time. However, for much shorter periods of time, a lot of players have scored reasonably
well (in terms of runs) in comparison to him. And we have tended to have more middle order batsmen. So, I think the bigger
worry is what we will do with the openers?
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2012, 02:40:09 AM »
Well, Kohli gone.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2012, 02:54:48 AM »
Dhoni hits a four to take us past 100 ...
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2012, 02:59:07 AM »
Dhoni should go for blind hitting here.  He will not survive trying to build an innings atleast not in the 1st half of his innings.  Throw the bat till he gets to 40 or 50 with a bit of luck and see what happens.  I like to see this guy score 80 or 90 here.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2012, 03:15:23 AM »
Terrible way to get out by SRT. After playing so well, he drives so far away from the body to get bowled.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2012, 03:16:16 AM »
good night guys.. get some sleep...  :)
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2012, 03:20:08 AM »
Terrible way to get out by SRT. After playing so well, he drives so far away from the body to get bowled.
:'( ..and in between they were showing the difference in technique between RD, VVS and SRT in playing defensive shots.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2012, 03:26:40 AM »
What is unfortunate is that the bowling had become comparatively easier compared to the early morning. Sachin hung out
through that time, and now he plays the loose shot. One of the things we need to do is to keep the Australians bowling for a while. They have three fast bowlers to lead the attack. How many overs a day can each of them bowl at full hurtle? But, given the number of overs we are lasting this is not a problem for them!
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2012, 04:54:36 AM »
Well, we do not get to 200, but Dhoni almost took us there. So, Dhoni gets a decent score ...  when will our other batsmen get some?  And will any of them score big in this series?
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2012, 05:05:25 AM »
ZK & IS got nasty Bouncers ..that is not a good sign for the Australian Batsmen. Expect a Indian fight back ::argue::
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2012, 05:06:36 AM »
This ass Aswin cant even run in the outfield
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2012, 05:14:36 AM »
So, Aus 2 down to Zaheer! Lax almost dropped the first one, but managed to drop it to Sachin!
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2012, 05:22:48 AM »
Pathetictic india. Zak, I shan't and um-esh get ducks. Poor dhoni is stranded
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2012, 05:27:22 AM »
Already wayward bowling although we got 2 wickets. First 7-8 overs, Aus bowlers did not bowl a single ball on the leg side and we already have 2 fours scored off them!
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2012, 05:31:25 AM »
True. We are releasing the pressure.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2012, 05:38:41 AM »
Dhoni lets a hard catch from Ponting to go down. Well, maybe that is not too bad, since the blind umpire would
probably have not given it out.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2012, 05:45:07 AM »
And now Cowan lbw!
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2012, 05:59:35 AM »
Ganguly crediting Akash Chopra - nice to hear.
hmm..wasn't Chopra dropped in the very next series for not scoring fast enough ?
Haha...He sure did many follies in his captaincy before GC set him straight.

who will set VVS straight? the selectors? :)
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2012, 08:24:46 AM »
gosh what a shocker of a day - from start to finish.

just landed in Dubai after short holiday and was given a wonderful torrent of emails and messages of what I'd missed.

i dont know what is more disappointing - lack of concentration and technique (and no it is not that they have been batting the same way all through - these are serious errors that have crept up on this tour. look at how Dravid, Laxman and even SRT got out)?

how about the pathetic tail who could not muster even 1 run between them, and curtailed a big and meaningful knock from Dhoni? what bunnies! look at how good Siddle and Pattinson are.

the bowling. OMG. lion hearted stuff from Zaheer undone by a miserable evening for the other three.

and Dhoni's captaincy? goodness gracious i have urinated better strategies. what is with the negativity? It doesn't work! it only makes the bowlers dish out the type of tripe they did today! it's a vicious circle.


What exactly is Duncan Fletcher's job in all this???
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2012, 08:25:31 AM »
we could definitely make a comeback tomorrow - but Zak will have to take 2-3 wickets in his first spell.

more likely that Aus will ease into a 200+ lead.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2012, 09:03:23 AM »
we could definitely make a comeback tomorrow - but Zak will have to take 2-3 wickets in his first spell.

more likely that Aus will ease into a 200+ lead.

in other words, instead of making him look like Pele, our team will make gavaskar's recent prediction stand true.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #68 on: January 03, 2012, 09:04:10 AM »
What exactly is Duncan Fletcher's job in all this???

I think its time to start a serious thread on this, and Dhoni's captaincy.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #69 on: January 03, 2012, 09:34:53 AM »
What exactly is Duncan Fletcher's job in all this???

I think its time to start a serious thread on this, and Dhoni's captaincy.

if we lose this series (and maybe the next away one) that should be it for Dhoni. it would be the two major tests of captaincy in Test cricket which he would have failed. and in essence there would be nothing more to prove/disprove - NZ, WI, SA, Pak, SL and home assignments have gone well by and large

the problem - no one else who fits the bill.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #70 on: January 03, 2012, 09:51:31 AM »
rohit sharma for captain
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #71 on: January 03, 2012, 04:14:42 PM »
True. We are releasing the pressure.

Aussie plan worked to some extent. They bounced out ZK & IS hoping they lose their head and come hard at their batsmen bowling short. ZK kept his cool pitched it up  & rewarded.
IS I think he is in a speed competition with UY  bowled all over the place and short. Speed is good but control is needed. Even the Aussie tail enders can play the short pitched bowling . For any fight back Pitch it up and swing it both ways is it hard for IS & UY to follow.

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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2012, 09:08:28 PM »
You guys don't know what you are talking about..Its all luck..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/india-in-australia/top-stories/Coach-Fletcher-blames-it-on-lack-of-luck/articleshow/11356339.cms


SYDNEY: He has been in charge of the Indian team since last June, but Duncan Fletcher has no clue as to why the same bunch of players, who had put the national team at the top of the heap in both forms of the game, are struggling badly, especially when they are playing abroad.

The self-effacing Fletcher made a rare appearance at the day-end press conference at the SCG on Tuesday, praised Australian pacers and blamed bad luck for India's woeful batting display on the opening day of the second Test.

"At times, in cricket you need a little bit of good fortune. Just look at Sachin's dismissal today. How many times do you play on from that width? Normally you would put that through cover for four. Sometimes it (luck) goes against you, sometimes it runs with you," Fletcher said, trying to put the Indian batting collapse into perspective.

He also defended skipper MS Dhoni's decision to bat first after winning the toss. "The decision to bat first was the correct one. Sometimes, you have to give credit to the opposition. Ponting and Clarke came out and batted well. Clarke was pretty positive. There were a few loose shots up front there. He looked under a bit of pressure. He could quite easily have nicked one of those early, and they could have been four down," Fletcher explained.

The Indian coach came to the rescue of the non-performing batsmen. "It's important that they (middle-order) click together," he said."

As a unit they haven't scored consistently - all of them. Rahul batted well in England, but seems to have lost a little bit of form here. Sachin looks as though he is in good nick. Laxy (Laxman) is striking the ball well. He probably needs a little bit of good fortune. That middle-order should be able to put in the good scores we require."

Regarding Gautam Gambhir's poor form, Fletcher said efforts are on to boost his mental make-up. "We have just been working on him to get more positive. We feel he has been quite tentative and has been pushing at balls instead of going out there and batting like he should," said Fletcher.

"He is an attacking batsman. We are trying to get him to be a lot a more positive in his approach. Today he got a ball that would have got a few left-handers out early," he added.

Asked how bad it will get before things get better, Fletcher said, "We are pretty confident that at some stage they (our batsmen) will get the runs that are required. Perhaps, in the second innings, let's just wait and see what happens there.

"Tomorrow if we get through and keep them down to a similar score as ours, I think we can put Australia under little bit of pressure if we bat well in the second innings."



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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2012, 09:44:40 PM »
Ok, so we had a bad day. Now pull up your socks, take some early wickets and bowl them out. Then come back hard with the bat. This is test cricket, for crying out loud! Someone needs to put in a Harby-esque performance like Kingston 2006. After India posted a paltry 200, Harby struck back with 5-wicket haul for only 13 runs to give us a 97 run lead!

I refuse to blame Fletcher, who may not be a genius but hasn't done any negative stuff like leaking news to the press to humiliate players. A lineup with so much experience such as India's should basically run on auto-pilot.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2012, 10:28:02 PM »
I am curious if there is anyone who seriously believes that we can salvage (draw or win) this test? Cern - was that a wish or a belief or both?

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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2012, 10:57:57 PM »
I am curious if there is anyone who seriously believes that we can salvage (draw or win) this test? Cern - was that a wish or a belief or both?

As soon as Tendulkar fell, I felt the bell had tolled.

Both.
We have salvaged from worse situations before. They'll have to keep thinking that this Aus line-up does not have a Gilchrist to take things away. I'd say even with a 100 run deficit India has a chance, and Aus have a lot of work left to get so many runs. Dhoni has to set the tone by attacking tactics on the field - that will be the key. He's led with the bat, which should give him some confidence.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2012, 11:48:08 PM »
assured start by Aus this morning. i think our best hope of a wicket is to bring Ashwin on straight away
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2012, 12:14:26 AM »
The pacers are consistently straying off line and leaking away runs.
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2012, 12:22:24 AM »
actually it was a poor spell by zaheer. umesh and ishant doing well this morning. the luck will turn. cmon boys
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Re: Sydney Test 2012 - India vs Australia
« Reply #79 on: January 04, 2012, 12:24:22 AM »
Oh my God. Caught a glimpse of Laxman in the slips, looks like he is giving Ranatunga competition.  Lead belly.
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