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India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« on: December 04, 2011, 05:07:21 AM »
Aus suddenly seems to have discovered potentially very good fast bowlers ( Pattison and Starc ) who can bat decently too. Ricky Ponting seems to be getting back his mojo and that is not good for India!
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 06:25:59 AM »
I predict a 2-0 loss for India. Aussies can field sydney-grade cricket heroes and Gambhir, Raina, Kohli, etc. will be sitting wickets on most grounds.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 07:12:18 AM »
I predict a 2-0 loss for India. Aussies can field sydney-grade cricket heroes and Gambhir, Raina, Kohli, etc. will be sitting wickets on most grounds.
Decision time in tests for Kohli and Sharma. Gambhir has not been firing lately too much and I think bounce more than the fast bowling is going to be tough tacking. Thank god we still have VS, RD, SRT and VVS still playing tests.
On the other hand Umesh Yadav could prove to be surprise. Predict 2-1 for Australia!
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 09:19:06 AM »
I predict a 2-0 loss for India. Aussies can field sydney-grade cricket heroes and Gambhir, Raina, Kohli, etc. will be sitting wickets on most grounds.
i am going with 1-1.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 10:30:50 AM »
2-1 for India. i see our bowling taking 20 wickets a couple of times. Zak, Ishant and Umesh is a very exciting attack.

the pace attack looks good as long as Zak remains fit. spinners dont do much in Australia anyway but Ojha/Ashwin will do well enough I think. Aussies look like they will collapse for a low score in at least one of the Tests, so we need to win that one - and the other win shall come if/when the batsmen click and put up a 550+ score

Batting is more dicey but i expect a quite a few centuries from Sehwag, Dravid and Sachin. Will hopefully be enough! VVS doesn't look like he'll last the rigor of 4 back-to-back Tests so Rohit will get a debut.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 11:24:23 AM »
i also see irfan pathan going in as a replacement, either now, for Kumar or later when one of the bowlers breaks down( i hope this does not happen but knowing our bowlers its very possible). there was an article in TOI about him being considered but what worries me is the quotes by rajat bhatia at the end where he said IP got the ball to swing but at 120km speeds.You also had manoj prabhakar sayng Nehra got 9 wickets and IP is slow but whatever he seems to be pitching for his own delhi boy. I think IP might be the best bet considering he can also bat and with our dicey batting line-up it might not be a bad idea. we would then have:
GG-sketchy form
VS- Boom or bust
RD- relatively stable
SRT- again, relatively stable but susceptible to outside pressures
VVS- stable but will he last the entirety of the series
MSD- boom or bust
IP- dark horse
ZK- can bat a bit
Ashwin- can bat a bit
Yadav- no idea
ishant- mug
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 12:37:01 PM »
i also see irfan pathan going in as a replacement, either now, for Kumar or later when one of the bowlers breaks down( i hope this does not happen but knowing our bowlers its very possible). there was an article in TOI about him being considered but what worries me is the quotes by rajat bhatia at the end where he said IP got the ball to swing but at 120km speeds.You also had manoj prabhakar sayng Nehra got 9 wickets and IP is slow but whatever he seems to be pitching for his own delhi boy. I think IP might be the best bet considering he can also bat and with our dicey batting line-up it might not be a bad idea. we would then have:
GG-sketchy form
VS- Boom or bust
RD- relatively stable
SRT- again, relatively stable but susceptible to outside pressures
VVS- stable but will he last the entirety of the series
MSD- boom or bust
IP- dark horse
ZK- can bat a bit
Ashwin- can bat a bit
Yadav- no idea
ishant- mug

wow all out attack! 5 bowlers is pushing it a bit given MSD's Test batting ability. i saw IKP bowl on tv a few weeks ago and he looked ok - swinging it quite a lot, at 125-128 kph. a lot like praveen kumar but PK is more accurate and can bowl longer spells.

Irfan has done well in australia before and that is a big plus. it would be an interesting selection. he is the highest wicket taker and the best bowler this season to his credit. however i think they will go with vinay kumar (much to my disgust).

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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 02:15:03 PM »
I will not be too disappointed if Vinay gets the nod in place of PK
1. It will prove that performances in Ranji and other domestic cricket has some value attached to it
2. India need one bowler who can hold one end up in places like Australia. Vinay will be suited for the job perfectly.
3. His performances in the ODIs against England and West Indies show he has the knack of taking crucial wickets.
4. His batting will be a huge plus. He is one who will put some value on his wicket if he has a good batsman at the other end.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2011, 03:10:45 PM »
I will not be too disappointed if Vinay gets the nod in place of PK
1. It will prove that performances in Ranji and other domestic cricket has some value attached to it
2. India need one bowler who can hold one end up in places like Australia. Vinay will be suited for the job perfectly.
3. His performances in the ODIs against England and West Indies show he has the knack of taking crucial wickets.
4. His batting will be a huge plus. He is one who will put some value on his wicket if he has a good batsman at the other end.
by the same token:
1. Irfans recent domestic form can be rewarded.
2. he can do more than just hold up one end by taking wickets. Lethal combo if you have an inform Zak and a speedy Ishaant as well.
3. irfans experience having toured Australia and done well could be helpful
4. His batting could also be a huge plus. definitely more of a batsman that vinay.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2011, 04:21:39 PM »
Looks like Zak is saying he is "fit" by bowling some overs where as I thought I saw a report in TOI where S Ganguly said Zak is not full fit yet. that's worrying!
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2011, 04:37:27 PM »
Looks like Zak is saying he is "fit" by bowling some overs where as I thought I saw a report in TOI where S Ganguly said Zak is not full fit yet. that's worrying!
Sg did not say Zak is not fit. what he said is we need a fully fit zak or no zak at all.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 08:39:05 PM »
I predict a 2-0 loss for India. Aussies can field sydney-grade cricket heroes and Gambhir, Raina, Kohli, etc. will be sitting wickets on most grounds.
I agree. None of the big guns- VS,RD,SRT or VVS are as good as they were in 2004. That 2004 Indian side was a powerhouse, and even they got out with a 1-1 result.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2011, 12:16:36 AM »
Looks like Zak is saying he is "fit" by bowling some overs where as I thought I saw a report in TOI where S Ganguly said Zak is not full fit yet. that's worrying!
Sg did not say Zak is not fit. what he said is we need a fully fit zak or no zak at all.
I remember the headlines in Google news ..did not read the details . Headlines said he is not fit
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2011, 06:42:36 AM »
Looks like Zak is saying he is "fit" by bowling some overs where as I thought I saw a report in TOI where S Ganguly said Zak is not full fit yet. that's worrying!
Sg did not say Zak is not fit. what he said is we need a fully fit zak or no zak at all.
I remember the headlines in Google news ..did not read the details . Headlines said he is not fit
well, either the headlines or your interpretation are wrong as sg def did nit say that.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2011, 08:17:38 AM »
i also see irfan pathan going in as a replacement, either now, for Kumar or later when one of the bowlers breaks down( i hope this does not happen but knowing our bowlers its very possible). there was an article in TOI about him being considered but what worries me is the quotes by rajat bhatia at the end where he said IP got the ball to swing but at 120km speeds.You also had manoj prabhakar sayng Nehra got 9 wickets and IP is slow but whatever he seems to be pitching for his own delhi boy. I think IP might be the best bet considering he can also bat and with our dicey batting line-up it might not be a bad idea. we would then have:
GG-sketchy form
VS- Boom or bust
RD- relatively stable
SRT- again, relatively stable but susceptible to outside pressures
VVS- stable but will he last the entirety of the series
MSD- boom or bust
IP- dark horse
ZK- can bat a bit
Ashwin- can bat a bit
Yadav- no idea
ishant- mug

wow all out attack! 5 bowlers is pushing it a bit given MSD's Test batting ability. i saw IKP bowl on tv a few weeks ago and he looked ok - swinging it quite a lot, at 125-128 kph. a lot like praveen kumar but PK is more accurate and can bowl longer spells.

Irfan has done well in australia before and that is a big plus. it would be an interesting selection. he is the highest wicket taker and the best bowler this season to his credit. however i think they will go with vinay kumar (much to my disgust).
if our top 5 of VS, GG, RD, SRT and VVS arent going to do it with dhoni at 6 then its unlikely that the tail will do much. i think if we expect our tail to contribute a total of 60 runs its a fair demand. its these stalwarts who need to get going. MSD can shepherd the tail as can VVS. we need 5 bowlers imo as it gives us a better chance of winning.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2011, 03:50:18 PM »
i also see irfan pathan going in as a replacement, either now, for Kumar or later when one of the bowlers breaks down( i hope this does not happen but knowing our bowlers its very possible). there was an article in TOI about him being considered but what worries me is the quotes by rajat bhatia at the end where he said IP got the ball to swing but at 120km speeds.You also had manoj prabhakar sayng Nehra got 9 wickets and IP is slow but whatever he seems to be pitching for his own delhi boy. I think IP might be the best bet considering he can also bat and with our dicey batting line-up it might not be a bad idea. we would then have:
GG-sketchy form
VS- Boom or bust
RD- relatively stable
SRT- again, relatively stable but susceptible to outside pressures
VVS- stable but will he last the entirety of the series
MSD- boom or bust
IP- dark horse
ZK- can bat a bit
Ashwin- can bat a bit
Yadav- no idea
ishant- mug

wow all out attack! 5 bowlers is pushing it a bit given MSD's Test batting ability. i saw IKP bowl on tv a few weeks ago and he looked ok - swinging it quite a lot, at 125-128 kph. a lot like praveen kumar but PK is more accurate and can bowl longer spells.

Irfan has done well in australia before and that is a big plus. it would be an interesting selection. he is the highest wicket taker and the best bowler this season to his credit. however i think they will go with vinay kumar (much to my disgust).
if our top 5 of VS, GG, RD, SRT and VVS arent going to do it with dhoni at 6 then its unlikely that the tail will do much. i think if we expect our tail to contribute a total of 60 runs its a fair demand. its these stalwarts who need to get going. MSD can shepherd the tail as can VVS. we need 5 bowlers imo as it gives us a better chance of winning.

yeah but 5 Ojhas or Varun Aron's wont give you even 60 runs and thus the need for some batting there
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2011, 05:10:38 PM »
lol weren't they supposed to pick Praveen's replacement today? i think some nice sleeps have been had instead.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2011, 05:25:39 PM »
The selection has been done. Abhimanyu Mithun to replace Praveen Kumar.
Good on the lad, he was unfairly dropped after that good series against Sri Lanka on those dead surfaces.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2011, 06:01:20 PM »
we are going to lose all the matches, we saw hwat happened in england, dravid and vvs will play, god is out of form that is clear
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2011, 07:43:00 PM »
we are going to lose all the matches, we saw hwat happened in england, dravid and vvs will play, god is out of form that is clear
Achutank, God is out of form for his fans. in the real world, as i have pointed out to you on some other thread, he is quite in form!
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2011, 05:03:16 AM »
The selection has been done. Abhimanyu Mithun to replace Praveen Kumar.
Good on the lad, he was unfairly dropped after that good series against Sri Lanka on those dead surfaces.

yea except for one tiny problem: he is *. actually he is the worst out of the three choices! the guy cant bowl! he has built up so much muscle that he is not producing pace or swing. his action and run up is horrid (worse than Aaron's!)

i know irfan has probably not done enough to warrant a Test spot, but it would have been a pretty decent gamble.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 02:24:26 AM »
After MJ, Cummins is also ruled out for the test series. Peter Siddle, Pattinson and Starc will be their main bowlers..

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/young-gun-cummins-sidelined-by-foot-injury-20111207-1oi0s.html

Hopes for a mouth-watering contest between Pat Cummins and Sachin Tendulkar have been dashed by the news the young Australian pace sensation has a serious foot injury that will cause him to miss much of the India Test series.
The 18-year-old fast bowler was making a slower-than-expected recovery from a heel problem incurred during his breathtaking debut in Johannesburg last month and further scans have revealed a more serious injury that will keep him from bowling for at least another month.
“Patrick injured his heel early into the second Test against South Africa. By the end of the match he was quite sore and we had scans done after the game that confirmed heel 'fat pad' injury. On return to Australia, he was given some time to recover and was reviewed throughout last week by NSW medical staff and then by myself in Brisbane during the first Vodafone Test versus New Zealand," said Australian team physiotherapist Alex Kountouris.
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"By the end of last week it was apparent to all of us managing him that he was progressing slower than expected for a soft-tissue injury of the heel. As such we arranged for him to see a foot specialist and had further scans that have identified a bone component to his injury, that was not evident on the original scans. We now believe that Patrick has a bone stress injury as well as the 'fat pad' injury. This means that his recovery will take longer than first expected. He is not likely to resume bowling until early to mid-January 2012.”
Cricket fans had been salivating at the prospect of watching the hottest young pace prospect in the world bowl to the greatest batsman of his generation from Boxing Day at the MCG but now it seems Cummins' best-case scenario is a return for the fourth Test of the series in Adelaide from January 24.
He will also miss the Big Bash League in which he would have been a star attraction in a new-ball partnership with Brett Lee for the Sydney Sixers.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/young-gun-cummins-sidelined-by-foot-injury-20111207-1oi0s.html#ixzz1foOXxZwh
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2011, 03:41:54 AM »
Cricket fans had been salivating at the prospect of watching the hottest young pace prospect in the world bowl to the greatest batsman of his generation from Boxing Day at the MCG but now it seems Cummins' best-case scenario is a return for the fourth Test of the series in Adelaide from January 24.

Idiots. The most innocuous bowler usually gets Tendulkar, not the so-called big shot.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 04:09:30 AM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 06:45:03 AM »
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2011, 11:25:06 AM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #26 on: December 08, 2011, 04:02:09 PM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
glad to be proved wrong always in this case  ;D but really do you think with so many chances for run outs , catches missed that is not very confident inducing but good.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2011, 06:09:20 PM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
glad to be proved wrong always in this case  ;D but really do you think with so many chances for run outs , catches missed that is not very confident inducing but good.
id take a 170 as well. but the main thing is he has his confidence back.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 06:13:49 PM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
glad to be proved wrong always in this case  ;D but really do you think with so many chances for run outs , catches missed that is not very confident inducing but good.

having seen so many of these innings from Sehwag you have to believe that he has it in him to pull it off. all his 300s, 200s and big 100s are usually thrill-a-minute, lucky, edge-of-your-seat, freaky knocks.

however he does it regularly enough for one to always have confidence in him
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2011, 06:27:16 PM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
glad to be proved wrong always in this case  ;D but really do you think with so many chances for run outs , catches missed that is not very confident inducing but good.

having seen so many of these innings from Sehwag you have to believe that he has it in him to pull it off. all his 300s, 200s and big 100s are usually thrill-a-minute, lucky, edge-of-your-seat, freaky knocks.
I think there is an element of "mental disintegration" of the opposition in his knocks. Most often when one dominates the opposition is so awestruck or struggling to come to terms that they start making silly mistakes. I guess that is how he makes his own luck.
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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2011, 07:13:45 PM »
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2011, 10:01:40 PM »
cummins out..One positive for India.
Sehwag and Gambhir are out of form. 2 big negatives for India
well sehwag just put your foot in your mouth!
glad to be proved wrong always in this case  ;D but really do you think with so many chances for run outs , catches missed that is not very confident inducing but good.

having seen so many of these innings from Sehwag you have to believe that he has it in him to pull it off. all his 300s, 200s and big 100s are usually thrill-a-minute, lucky, edge-of-your-seat, freaky knocks.
I think there is an element of "mental disintegration" of the opposition in his knocks. Most often when one dominates the opposition is so awestruck or struggling to come to terms that they start making silly mistakes. I guess that is how he makes his own luck.

Exactly. Our show in oz will mainly depend on VS. If he fires we will win the series.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2011, 10:10:13 PM »
http://www.firstpost.com/sports/greatest-memories-are-indias-series-wins-not-runs-scored-dravid-151326.html



In an exclusive interview to CNN-IBN‘s sports editor Gaurav Kalra, Rahul Dravid talks about what keeps him ticking in test cricket after 15 years of playing the game, his records and India’s upcoming four-match test series against Australia.

On his goals for the Australia test

“Nothing in terms of my own statistics there. I want to win a test series in Australia…try and help win a test series in Australia — something we have never done,” says Dravid. “Everytime we go and travel there that’s going to be our goal and its not easy but the goal is to try and win a series.”

Dravid says that Australia has long been the benchmark for the game and are still a good side, “So it would be special to go and do well there.”

Rahul Dravid plays a shot during the third day of India's third test match against West Indies in Mumbai on 24 November. Reuters
Comparing his present form to his form in 2003 at Aldelaide

Dravid had scored 233 against Australia in 2003 and finds himself confident going into this series. “I’ve go some runs behind me and even though runs behind me doesn’t translate into runs in the future, it definitely means you go there in a good space. I’m pretty confident. Hitting the ball well. And, I feel relaxed.”

The first test will be held in Melbourne on 26 December.

On the numbers that follow him

The perpetually modest Dravid who has in his 15 years of test cricket notched up 37 test hundreds and 13,000 test runs doesn’t make a big deal about his records. Instead he jokes about it saying, ”What they tell you, is that I have been around a long time,”

He says that if one is consistent over a period of time, plays as long as he has and manages to stay fit, one can get the numbers.

Dravid says that growing up as a kid playing cricket and having watched Sunil Gavaskar get his 10,000th run has been fodder for his career. “It is those moments and memories that your careers are built,” he says. “It’s those memories that stay with you, that give you ambitions for the future”.

He says he don’t look at the numbers anymore, instead, his memories and ambitions are more the team’s numbers. “There’s a point of time in your career when you stop looking at the numbers…You wouldn’t mind scoring 500 or a 1,000 runs less, if you could win a series in Australia,” he says. ”The greatest memories for me now are not necessarily the statistics or the no of runs, its moments — those magic moments. …the series wins, the test wins,” he says.

On being the oldest active test cricketer in the world

Just like his many stints on the wicket where he has stuck along stubbornly, Rahul Dravid has stuck to playing test cricket as resolutely. Dravid is the oldest active test cricketer in the world and while it does speak volumes about his work ethic, discipline and desire to be successful in tests for such a long time, he is modest as usual about his achievement.




Without an iota of credit for himself, Dravid says that his longevity indicates “that fitness levels, the access that we have these days to fitness trainers and sports science has improved tremendously since I started.”

On catches and what makes them special

Dravid acknowledges that he is really proud of his 200 catches in the slips because of all the hardwork he has put into it since taking up cricket and playing for home state Karnataka. But it’s not just about the number of catches for him. He loves the camaraderie and team spirit feeling that catches evoke.

“I know the number of hours I have put in and number of catches I have taken till my hands were literally sore,” he says. But, he loves taking catches because it gives one a feeling of sharing in the success of the team.

He says it even betters the feeling of having scored a ton. “You know when you get a 100 you share it with your partner…But you know when you take a catch, you get to share that with your team mates instantly. And that’s a lovely feeling,” Dravid says, adding, “It’s a great feeling when you know you have shared in the success of somebody else.”
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2011, 12:23:58 AM »
There is also wonderful interview with RD in that thread.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2011, 01:31:01 PM »
varun Aaron is out and still no Irfan Pathan.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2011, 03:47:55 PM »
Good to see Irfan 'Chuvha' Pathan not picked just based on the hype and couple of Ranji games this season.  If people are willing to look at how he has done over the last three domestic seasons it is easy to see why he is ignored by the selectors who atleast seem to look at the numbers before deciding.  Consider this. Pathan has given more interviews and play the victim than take wickets in the Ranji and the Duleep trophy games.  That should end all clamor over this overated players inclusion for the Tests.
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2011, 03:53:21 PM »
Good to see Irfan 'Chuvha' Pathan not picked just based on the hype and couple of Ranji games this season.  If people are willing to look at how he has done over the last three domestic seasons it is easy to see why he is ignored by the selectors who atleast seem to look at the numbers before deciding.
Totally agree
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Re: India touring Australia 2011-12 : pre-series thread
« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2011, 01:19:33 AM »
Aus vs NZ - 2nd test in Hobart. NZ scores 150 in 45 overs. Brownlie claimed it was a good score based on the pitch supporting seam bowling. Aus currently at 75/6 in 31 overs. And this is at the start of the test match. Things are supposed to get better from now onwards as the pitch eases out.

Why all the fuss about Indian pitches deteriorating and not lasting 5 days? The opposite should also be valid. If the pitch is dangerous on the first day or two and then eases out, it is not really that different considering its influence on the match. Cricinfo called it a "lively pitch" which is simply euphemism for "deadly pitch"  ;D

As a few of us have been advocating for a while, Indian pitches should support spin hugely. May be not on day 1, but certainly on day 2. Matches could be over by the 4th day. Visiting (non subcontinental) teams should shudder at the thought of a tour and their fans predict doom - much like we do when take stalwarts like Mithun and Vinay Kumar to MCG and Perth, and include porcelain heroes like Zaheer Khan who cannot bowl more than 25 overs / innings.

But the idiot administrators never schedule home matches at the obvious spin-supporting venues, opting for so-called rotation (which in reality is  back-slapping, horse trading and embezzling).

BCCI should come under the ambit of Lokpal  [god]
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