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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #40 on: December 01, 2011, 12:06:36 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2011, 12:07:40 PM »
Ganguly batting on 69* at a 70 plus S/R as per cricinfo updates.  Let us see if can get to a century and get Bengal the 1st innings lead.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2011, 12:20:26 PM »
Getting back to the Ranji trophy action one has to see how well ZK has recovered.  6 overs is not enough which he has bowled thus far. At least 20 overs each in the 2 games he wants to play before the Aussie tour is what is needed at a minimum.  Hope he makes the right decision in the best interests of the team and drop out if there even a little doubt unlike on the tour of England.
ZK bowls 12 overs in the 1st and 10 overs in the second,  and a total of 16 overs on the day.  Gets 4 total wickets.  Hope he was at full steam.  Another game to go next and let us see how things look.  Hope some of the selectors are there to see if this guy has fully recovered or not than take a players word for it before embarking upon an important tour.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2011, 12:29:57 PM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Hbc8rxs32x0&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/Hbc8rxs32x0&rel=0</a>

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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2011, 12:48:55 PM »
Ganguly batting on 69* at a 70 plus S/R as per cricinfo updates.  Let us see if can get to a century and get Bengal the 1st innings lead.
SG gets 135 which is real good.   Impressive but Bengal fails to get the crucial 1st innings lead.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2011, 01:02:11 PM »
Getting back to the Ranji trophy action one has to see how well ZK has recovered.  6 overs is not enough which he has bowled thus far. At least 20 overs each in the 2 games he wants to play before the Aussie tour is what is needed at a minimum.  Hope he makes the right decision in the best interests of the team and drop out if there even a little doubt unlike on the tour of England.
ZK bowls 12 overs in the 1st and 10 overs in the second,  and a total of 16 overs on the day.  Gets 4 total wickets.  Hope he was at full steam.  Another game to go next and let us see how things look.  Hope some of the selectors are there to see if this guy has fully recovered or not than take a players word for it before embarking upon an important tour.
He was not at full steam but was definitely getting his line and length right. Did not need to go at full tilt. He will do so in the next one for sure. Check PM.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #46 on: December 01, 2011, 01:09:01 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
Rams, i can conform that it was the Warriors who approached him. he did not beg them. The idea was to use him as an opener as Smith had gone home i think. You cannot deny that you would send your kid to an academy that was headed by the likes of SG or VVS. both, IMO lacked a strong work ethic unless pushed but were stellar when it came to pure talent!
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #47 on: December 01, 2011, 01:12:56 PM »
on a side note,
watch out for chirag Khurana and Ankit Bawne from maharashtra. both are young, 18 and 19 i think and have pretty hot techniques. Khurana for one is teased about being the next RD. the guy is a beast when it comes to training and practice and actually has a good back-foot game. used to be pathetic against spin but that has changed as well. again i have hope for maharashtra!!
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #48 on: December 01, 2011, 01:16:50 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
Rams, i can conform that it was the Warriors who approached him. he did not beg them. The idea was to use him as an opener as Smith had gone home i think. You cannot deny that you would send your kid to an academy that was headed by the likes of SG or VVS. both, IMO lacked a strong work ethic unless pushed but were stellar when it came to pure talent!
Pune signed him way into the season like after 8 or 9 games, but he surely called teams in the initital days after the snub which was posted on this DG as well.  So what you are saying only occured after the mid-IPL point.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2011, 01:26:09 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
Rams, i can conform that it was the Warriors who approached him. he did not beg them. The idea was to use him as an opener as Smith had gone home i think. You cannot deny that you would send your kid to an academy that was headed by the likes of SG or VVS. both, IMO lacked a strong work ethic unless pushed but were stellar when it came to pure talent!
Pune signed him way into the season like after 8 or 9 games, but he surely called teams in the initital days after the snub which was posted on this DG as well.  So what you are saying only occured after the mid-IPL point.
he had been on the pune radar at the auction itself and his price was an issue. He was stupid to jack it up that much. had he kept it at base level the bidders would have been baited and driven it up themselves.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2011, 01:28:51 PM »
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2011, 01:44:09 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
Rams, i can conform that it was the Warriors who approached him. he did not beg them. The idea was to use him as an opener as Smith had gone home i think. You cannot deny that you would send your kid to an academy that was headed by the likes of SG or VVS. both, IMO lacked a strong work ethic unless pushed but were stellar when it came to pure talent!
Pune signed him way into the season like after 8 or 9 games, but he surely called teams in the initital days after the snub which was posted on this DG as well.  So what you are saying only occured after the mid-IPL point.
he had been on the pune radar at the auction itself and his price was an issue. He was stupid to jack it up that much. had he kept it at base level the bidders would have been baited and driven it up themselves.

when will you learn to allow our resident "blonde" to maintain her fantasy narrative? now prepare for the "flood"...
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« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2011, 04:18:37 PM »
have not witnessed a flood from rams for a while now. When one makes solid points with him without deriding another player to bolster it he seems pretty rational to me. you two pick at each other and hence anything said is taken personally. i dont have that issue with rams.
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« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2011, 05:05:36 PM »
dude CAB is an institution and we all have our opinions of various institutions be it the CAb, the HCA the BCCI or the bloody election commission. If rams starts criticizing it you can counter it. Why bring his father into it? thats where the topic goes into the gutter. I am sure you have the mental ability to counter criticize without getting personal. we argued on the FDi thread without getting personal did we not ( unless you consider my offer to buy you a ticket to a place as a personal affront. I am assuming you do not).

Dude, the problem is that what Rambha did here is not a one-off, as you'll surely know. For the last maybe 6-7 years, like a scratched record, she has had but one refrain: Ganguly is dishonest/bad/what not. For all I know, he (Ganguly) may be all that and more. Does that give Mango Dolly the right to go on and trash practically every thread, sometimes not even related to cricket, with her personal hatred for SCG?

In fact, considering that most of her filth is unproven and baseless allegations fermented inside her depraved imagination, why should the character-assassination of a public figure, who also happens to be one of India's greatest  cricketers and captains, even be allowed here? Shouldn't action be taken against that?
Not a chance.  This is a related thread about Ranji and Ganguly is appearing in it using CAB as his fiefdom after he announced he is retiring from the FC game to get ready for the IPL where no one even wants him but begged his way in which he is no good at anyway.  If he can be a damn fool which he is to provide fodder to people they sure will take him to task.  So this is not a character assassination as you myopics seem to think but a valid criticism.

Can you prove that ganguly begged his way into the team? If not, that's proof of character assassination. Will you leave this DG if you can't prove that Sourav Ganguly begged his way into the Bengal Ranji team?
I meant into the IPL team, he made calls to teams after he was not picked in the auction which was posted even on this DG.  He should have shown the middle finger instead in my opinion than approach these guys.
Rams, i can conform that it was the Warriors who approached him. he did not beg them. The idea was to use him as an opener as Smith had gone home i think. You cannot deny that you would send your kid to an academy that was headed by the likes of SG or VVS. both, IMO lacked a strong work ethic unless pushed but were stellar when it came to pure talent!
Pune signed him way into the season like after 8 or 9 games, but he surely called teams in the initital days after the snub which was posted on this DG as well.  So what you are saying only occured after the mid-IPL point.
he had been on the pune radar at the auction itself and his price was an issue. He was stupid to jack it up that much. had he kept it at base level the bidders would have been baited and driven it up themselves.

when will you learn to allow our resident "blonde" to maintain her fantasy narrative? now prepare for the "flood"...
I am sorry I cannot help you but here is what happened roughly in sequence in the mark up to the draft and immediately after.

1)   Ganguly, Laxman and bunch of other players had their base prices up which they had a say in and only agreed to it based on their confidence levels to be picked up and upon sending feelers.

2)   Draft happens and Ganguly had no takers not on one day for two days straight where all the big guns from India get picked.


3)   Reports (One such from L.P Sahi a SG backer was posted on this DG) that SG was snubbed by all ten teams based on what they believed in, that at this stage SG is a liability and comes with a baggage.  (Sahi directly quoted in that article to the effect that “SG is not a good team player and do not seem to take things sportingly “ as was told to him) and hence do not want to risk having a player like that.

4)   SG was shocked and did not accept that which I can fully understand expecting a player of that standing to react the way he did.


5)   In the aftermath of the auction SG takes it upon himself and calls franchises that included Kochi, Pune and few others which were reported in the media at the time.  After that there were reports doing rounds that Kochi might rope him and could use him as a player/mentor role if it passed the league rules.  IPL commission was even ready to make concessions if there was a taker for SG but Kochi flat out denied the reports that they indeed are looking at SG.  So the issue died down for about 9 weeks after that despite SG’s efforts to call teams personally.

6)   In the end after 9 weeks and a dismal start where they almost lost all the games to that point and are out of the race Pune roped in Ganguly which in my opinion would not happened had they been in the hunt. It was ploy in my opinion to get a crowd puller like SG and restore whatever they had left of the lost season and salvage something to give back to their fan base.  SG fell for it and he is within his rights though me thinks he should have shown the middle finger to the IPL after that Royal snub in the auction which to me would have made him come out as a winner simply based on the fact he has more to lose than gain being almost 40.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2011, 06:49:50 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).
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« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2011, 07:20:13 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).

wow!!! Wow!!!

a century in a ranji game against ***drum roll*** haryana (boasting of bowlers by the name of Billa/hooda etc) gets him not only a selection in the India team but an opening slot replacing the irreplaceable She-wag?

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!

Mind you this is the same game where the likes R Dewan and Sunny Singh also scored 100's.

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!
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« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2011, 09:53:38 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).
pagla gayein hain aap!! next you will want umble to be back so Bhajji and he can retire together!
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« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2011, 10:38:47 PM »
7-fer for Irfan now (3rd straight 5fer)
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« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2011, 10:53:28 PM »
7-fer for Irfan now (3rd straight 5fer)
On December 5th a replacement for PK would be named for the tour of Australia.  Will he get the nod?
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« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2011, 11:00:54 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).
pagla gayein hain aap!! next you will want umble to be back so Bhajji and he can retire together!

Kumble's already announced his ODI retirement, besides Bhajji has another 5-6 years left minimum.
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« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2011, 11:35:39 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).
pagla gayein hain aap!! next you will want umble to be back so Bhajji and he can retire together!

Kumble's already announced his ODI retirement, besides Bhajji has another 5-6 years left minimum.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! 5-6 years??? i guess the likes of Ashwin, ojha sharma should join forces and open a bhajia stall.
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« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2011, 11:37:27 PM »
as for SG
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/07/sourav-ganguly-retires
unless he thinks he is the Favre of cricket?
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2011, 03:10:36 AM »
If anyone followed the domestic game in India at length they would know there is no better person than VVS who values the Ranji trophy matches as much and it is a well known fact as was even outlined in articles at various times.
Told some of the guys who shoot from their a** he has a niggle and working on his fitness.  Never question the passion VVS has for domestic competition and his state side.
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"Yes, yes I follow them very closely. I follow them so closely I exchange messages with one of the coaches every half an hour and check how they are doing. Even now I know we are around 260 for 6, and we bowled them out for 147."

VVS Laxman is aware of events in Goa, even as he works on his fitness at the National Cricket Academy in Bangalore. Laxman is already preparing for the Australia tour, slowly starting to visualise the challenge, the Australia bowlers, the crowds that adore him there. An eye, though, always remains on how Hyderabad are doing in the Ranji Trophy. "I follow Hyderabad cricket, and I am very passionate about it," he says. "It's unfortunate I don't play for them that often but I really think a lot about Hyderabad cricket."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ranji-plate-league-2011/content/story/543265.html
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2011, 03:30:42 AM »
as for SG
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/07/sourav-ganguly-retires
unless he thinks he is the Favre of cricket?


Ha ha ha... k-slice, you shut them Gangulians up real tight.

"I see no possibility of playing cricket any more. I was playing [in the domestic trophy] Ranji only to keep myself fit for the IPL. So I will not play competitive cricket again."

After saying this SG deided to not only play IPL, but now play Ranji to be fit to play in IPL5 again!!! I have not seen a player more shameless than SG. This is proof enough for me atleast that it must have been him who ran behind new IPL teams to pick him up after being snubbed by all 10 of them. I don't see any reason why any of the team would have gone to him after snubbing him.

Really shameless fellow. I feel his retirement is even more shameless than Afridi's. Atleast Afridi kept his door cracked open by retiring "conditionally". SG said he isn't going to play competitive cricket again, and look at the shameless fellow now!!

And as for Bengal team, either they are morons to let such a player play in their team, who says that he is playing Ranji only to be fit for IPL; or they are the gone cases of personality pooja. Whatever it may be, they will end up being the losers in the end.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2011, 07:04:57 AM »
what is the problem if SG wants to continue playing?!
there are thousands of fans who would love to see him play...and why not..
the other day he scored a fluent 135 ...going by his latest attitude, that must have been some entertainment....although I haven't read any report of tat innings.
These players love their game and naturally wants to continue....and other junior players also learn a lot from these seniors.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2011, 07:23:16 AM »
what is the problem if SG wants to continue playing?!
there are thousands of fans who would love to see him play...and why not..
the other day he scored a fluent 135 ...going by his latest attitude, that must have been some entertainment....although I haven't read any report of tat innings.
These players love their game and naturally wants to continue....and other junior players also learn a lot from these seniors.
there is no problem with him playing blwe. its when ridiculous comments such as bring him back to open for india are made or when he captains a side he is using as a means to practice for the IPL that raises my shackles. SG should have been a better judge and not taken it imo. but then again, none of us are privy to what really happened. Maybe they told him he must take it or not play. very possible in our cricket. either way he got a century and helped his team out so good on him. i hope this doesnt mean he starts thinking of being a full-time player for the warriors! in reality, i wouldnt mind him in the first 11 as long as his role is defined. he looks foolish trying to smash bowlers with cross-batted swats. If his role was to anchor the innings at the beginning and get say a 30-40 at a run a ball or better, it would be great for him and the team. lets not expect him to change into a sehwag overnight. a ODI sr of 73 and a T20 SR of 108 is where he should be asked to perform at. if he gets a run a ball or slightly better and doesnt lose his wicket in the first 8 overs the warriors have the fire power in uthappa YS smith etc to do well from the other end.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2011, 09:44:42 AM »
Roflmao. From his treadmill in Bangalore armed with a phone, he is saving Hyderabad cricket. Pity those who feed on such ridiculous propa*a pieces. Can crookinfo say on 3rd Nov 2009 Hyd vs Himachal, where was Laxman? Was he perhaps tired from the recently concluded T20 Champions league games? Or on 15 Dec 2009 Hyd vs Tamil Nadu - this is the must win match for Hyderabad to avoid relegation? Where was Laxman? Nowhere to be found! He did play the previous game, couldn't do much. So where was the pride, you dump the team when they need you the most? His next competitive match is one month later in Bangladesh. Or on 01 Dec 2010 Hyd vs Goa - The NZ series was over and Laxman could have easily played this must-win match. Again saving Hyderabad cricket from his treadmill? Didn't work as Hyd got only 1 point.

And finally, on Nov 24th 2011 he is named captain of Hyd. He gives interviews posing as a saviour for Hyderabad. Till Nov 28th everyone knows he is playing for Hyd and fans must have travelled many miles to catch a glimpse of him. But he had other plans all the while, 'working on his fitness'. What is worse is crookinfo identifies Hyd's good performances with Laxman who hasn't played a single game for them this season, instead of focusing on the young upcoming players who are doing it for their team.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2011, 09:48:15 AM »
as for SG
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/feb/07/sourav-ganguly-retires
unless he thinks he is the Favre of cricket?


A discredited report which he scotched immediately.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2011, 11:22:34 AM »
7-fer for Irfan now (3rd straight 5fer)
On December 5th a replacement for PK would be named for the tour of Australia.  Will he get the nod?

i think it will be vinay. i saw pathan's bowling a couple of weeks ago. pretty menacing for domestic cricket against madhya pradesh but probably not Australia.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #70 on: December 02, 2011, 12:57:14 PM »
7-fer for Irfan now (3rd straight 5fer)
On December 5th a replacement for PK would be named for the tour of Australia.  Will he get the nod?

i think it will be vinay. i saw pathan's bowling a couple of weeks ago. pretty menacing for domestic cricket against madhya pradesh but probably not Australia.
Vinay will be a decent choice under the circumstance.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #71 on: December 02, 2011, 01:01:12 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).

wow!!! Wow!!!

a century in a ranji game against ***drum roll*** haryana (boasting of bowlers by the name of Billa/hooda etc) gets him not only a selection in the India team but an opening slot replacing the irreplaceable She-wag?

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!

Mind you this is the same game where the likes R Dewan and Sunny Singh also scored 100's.

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!
Gets out to Hooda cheaply in the second essay trying to get ready for the IPL where the 95 S/R will be a bust anyway. :)
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2011, 02:31:36 PM »
i hope it is Pathan. would be pretty poetic and all that with him rising from the ashes in australia!
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2011, 04:21:02 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).

wow!!! Wow!!!

a century in a ranji game against ***drum roll*** haryana (boasting of bowlers by the name of Billa/hooda etc) gets him not only a selection in the India team but an opening slot replacing the irreplaceable She-wag?

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!

Mind you this is the same game where the likes R Dewan and Sunny Singh also scored 100's.

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!
Gets out to Hooda cheaply in the second essay trying to get ready for the IPL where the 95 S/R will be a bust anyway. :)


may be Bengal was trying to win the match outright...
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2011, 04:55:13 PM »
At almost 40 he is scoring single-handed centuries in swingy conditions in the Elite division, and people need to start threads about whether Ganguly was unfairly treated! As Ganguly never really retired from ODI cricket,  the Western Union can partially make amends by re-uniting the SRT-SG opening pair and retiring them from ODIs together, (like Warne-McGrath).

wow!!! Wow!!!

a century in a ranji game against ***drum roll*** haryana (boasting of bowlers by the name of Billa/hooda etc) gets him not only a selection in the India team but an opening slot replacing the irreplaceable She-wag?

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!

Mind you this is the same game where the likes R Dewan and Sunny Singh also scored 100's.

Gangulians tussi great ho!!!
Gets out to Hooda cheaply in the second essay trying to get ready for the IPL where the 95 S/R will be a bust anyway. :)


may be Bengal was trying to win the match outright...
There is a small matter of missing the target by 60 runs. ;)
While players like Ganguly can use Ranji to get ready for the IPL Bengal keeps slipping to the bottom of the rubble in standings. :)
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #75 on: December 03, 2011, 07:27:23 PM »
This settles the issue once and for all.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2684179.ece?homepage=true

Even as Sourav continues to look ahead, what brings him back to playing Ranji Trophy? Just to be in shape for the Indian Premier League?

“I know I am not going to play for the country again. But I just love cricket and playing the game. I play because I love being in the Bengal dressing room.

“Plus, it also helps since I like to play in the IPL. I like the IPL's atmosphere, players from different countries and huge following for the event.”
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2011, 08:38:46 PM »
This settles the issue once and for all.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2684179.ece?homepage=true

Even as Sourav continues to look ahead, what brings him back to playing Ranji Trophy? Just to be in shape for the Indian Premier League?

“I know I am not going to play for the country again. But I just love cricket and playing the game. I play because I love being in the Bengal dressing room.

“Plus, it also helps since I like to play in the IPL. I like the IPL's atmosphere, players from different countries and huge following for the event.”


It absolutely settles it. His last statement finally says the truth. It's all for the ipl. So he says one lie and one honest statement.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2011, 10:22:55 PM »
This settles the issue once and for all.

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2684179.ece?homepage=true

Even as Sourav continues to look ahead, what brings him back to playing Ranji Trophy? Just to be in shape for the Indian Premier League?

“I know I am not going to play for the country again. But I just love cricket and playing the game. I play because I love being in the Bengal dressing room.

“Plus, it also helps since I like to play in the IPL. I like the IPL's atmosphere, players from different countries and huge following for the event.”


It absolutely settles it. His last statement finally says the truth. It's all for the ipl. So he says one lie and one honest statement.
The thing is he cannot look past IPL.  After announcing retirement he did nothing in the 1st year and then in order to get ready for the IPL he sees Ranji as an opening.  Uses CAB to advance his personal goal of playing in a private league and shamelessly CAB let it happen.  Remember last year he even picked and chose the games that really put the team in a very uncomfortable position and more importantly disrupted the team chemistry.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2011, 11:16:48 PM »
Few international cricketers would have the humility to take batting lessons as the visiting captain from a bunch of old fogeys, who by the way, were first-class gentlemen and anything but the ugly Aussies of the Border/Warne/Ponting/Symonds variety.

RIP Sam Loxton.

Ganguly's meeting with Loxton

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2684199.ece

Sourav Ganguly will remember with fondness the tutoring he received from Sam Loxton at the Manuka Oval, Canberra on January 28, 2004. Loxton, 90, died in Queensland on Saturday.

Ganguly was the captain of the Indian team, but he sat out of the match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. India won that match by one run with Hemang Badani scoring 100.

After having lunch with a few Australian legends and Prime Minister John Howard, a small party comprising Neil Harvey, Loxton, Ganguly and Laxmipathy Balaji found their way to the practice area of the Oval. V.V.S. Laxman joined them later for a serious interaction with Harvey, a stylish batsman and part and parcel of Don Bradman's ‘1948 Invincibles'.

Ganguly requested Harvey (at a dinner hosted by the Prime Minister on January 27) to take time out and have a look at his batting in the nets. Clearly he felt there was much to learn from Harvey. Both were left- handers.

Side-on play

Virtually the entire net session that lasted for almost an hour was supervised by Loxton. Harvey, stood behind the net and advised Ganguly on footwork and the virtues of side-on play. While Harvey pointed out one or two flaws, Loxton, who had positioned himself at point, asked Balaji to bowl in certain areas.

The session must have been midway through when Loxton said: “It's for the first time you (Ganguly) have played side on in your life. But there you are…you are learning. We cannot fix it (backfoot movement) in such a short time. You have to practise for hours and hours. You have been doing certain things for 15 years.''

Loxton felt that Ray Lindwall would have had Ganguly four times in an over. But he was happy to see the Indian captain learning lessons and quickly too.
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Re: 2011 Ranji Trophy thread
« Reply #79 on: December 04, 2011, 09:16:57 AM »
Few international cricketers would have the humility to take batting lessons as the visiting captain from a bunch of old fogeys, who by the way, were first-class gentlemen and anything but the ugly Aussies of the Border/Warne/Ponting/Symonds variety.

RIP Sam Loxton.

Ganguly's meeting with Loxton

http://www.thehindu.com/sport/cricket/article2684199.ece

Sourav Ganguly will remember with fondness the tutoring he received from Sam Loxton at the Manuka Oval, Canberra on January 28, 2004. Loxton, 90, died in Queensland on Saturday.

Ganguly was the captain of the Indian team, but he sat out of the match against the Australian Prime Minister's XI. India won that match by one run with Hemang Badani scoring 100.

After having lunch with a few Australian legends and Prime Minister John Howard, a small party comprising Neil Harvey, Loxton, Ganguly and Laxmipathy Balaji found their way to the practice area of the Oval. V.V.S. Laxman joined them later for a serious interaction with Harvey, a stylish batsman and part and parcel of Don Bradman's ‘1948 Invincibles'.

Ganguly requested Harvey (at a dinner hosted by the Prime Minister on January 27) to take time out and have a look at his batting in the nets. Clearly he felt there was much to learn from Harvey. Both were left- handers.

Side-on play

Virtually the entire net session that lasted for almost an hour was supervised by Loxton. Harvey, stood behind the net and advised Ganguly on footwork and the virtues of side-on play. While Harvey pointed out one or two flaws, Loxton, who had positioned himself at point, asked Balaji to bowl in certain areas.

The session must have been midway through when Loxton said: “It's for the first time you (Ganguly) have played side on in your life. But there you are…you are learning. We cannot fix it (backfoot movement) in such a short time. You have to practise for hours and hours. You have been doing certain things for 15 years.''

Loxton felt that Ray Lindwall would have had Ganguly four times in an over. But he was happy to see the Indian captain learning lessons and quickly too.

chief can you keep this to sg and ranji please? this is not an eulogy thread.
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