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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #80 on: December 11, 2011, 01:21:27 PM »
pathan gets another and then Mithun gets a gift.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2011, 01:24:06 PM »
omg you could fit parthiv patel in the gap between ball and edge there. wonderful wicket for mithun
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2011, 01:43:58 PM »
oh god...please dont give mithun a Test in Australia  :-[
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2011, 02:27:32 PM »
our bowling attack today -

Pathan (i predict 2-48)
Mithun (1-44)
Rahul Sharma (2-37)
Jadeja (2-31)
AllSorts (2-56)

212 all out.

mannnn pollard and asnani destroying all my predictions
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2011, 02:37:50 PM »
why Tiwary is Stylebhai:


Tiwary to Russell, SIX, 78.2 kph, Russell has had his sighter, and goes after Tiwary. This is a juicy full toss, on the pads, and he brutalised it over midwicket. Not sure how well can you rip your legbreaks after retiring hurt with cramps in hands


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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2011, 02:40:32 PM »
wonderful pappu drops a second catch in three overs
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2011, 02:55:19 PM »
btw the only odi played in a big city, on a weekend, and its empty
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2011, 03:00:47 PM »
why Tiwary is Stylebhai:


Tiwary to Russell, SIX, 78.2 kph, Russell has had his sighter, and goes after Tiwary. This is a juicy full toss, on the pads, and he brutalised it over midwicket. Not sure how well can you rip your legbreaks after retiring hurt with cramps in hands


Oh..he can't even have cramps!? :D
Personal agendas aside :glasses3:...........he did bat extremely well today, so long as he was there....a very well deserved hundred ::cheers::...........which can carry India to victory, unless Pollard has some other ideas
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2011, 03:28:53 PM »
why the **** would i have a personal agenda against Tiwary?

i just cant understand what was so serious for him to retire.

and i didnt say he cant have cramps - i just commented on how lardass sehwag batted 45 overs a couple of days ago. none of these young guys have that ability - even rohit was tired out the other day after making 95.

i like his fielding - even though sometimes he does some natak on fielding the simplest stuff - he is athletic and quick across the turf.

i am however not a fan of flat track bullies. scores containers full of runs when the going is easy but unimpressive in challenging conditions or against skilled bowlers. on top of that he does not know how to hit a ball - completely loses his shape when getting aggressive.

so, yah. good 100 for him taking advantage of a battered opposition - it ensures he will be part of the next ODI squad.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2011, 03:30:47 PM »
its another interesting chase. i hope polly takes them there for all the flak hes been getting
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 11, 2011, 03:32:24 PM »
btw is it just me or is this the same old irfan bowling wides and non-deceptive off-cutters?

what has changed?
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #91 on: December 11, 2011, 03:40:27 PM »
hohoho go on Kieron!!! on 96 off 91 with eight 6s!
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #92 on: December 11, 2011, 03:41:26 PM »
btw is it just me or is this the same old irfan bowling wides and non-deceptive off-cutters?

what has changed?


Exhibit A


39.4
Pathan to Pollard, SIX, 102.5 kph, A slower ball too many. Pollard picks this length ball, and lofts this for a flat six over long-on. That's Pollard's personal best too. Do we have a game on again?
39.3
Pathan to Pollard, SIX, 110.5 kph, Pollard into the 90s. With another push for a six. A mere flick off the pads, and it clears Rahane easily at cow corner
39.2
Pathan to Pollard, no run, 102.2 kph, another slower ball, mis-hit towards extra cover, Raina makes a diving save to his right
39.1
Pathan to Pollard, no run, 107.4 kph, slower ball, on the pads, pushed back to the bowler
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #93 on: December 11, 2011, 03:49:53 PM »
hohoho peach by jadeja gets Roach!

pollard is on 99 and on strike for the next over.

55 to win off 48!
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #94 on: December 11, 2011, 03:52:29 PM »
oh my god!!! virat drops a sitter!!!

take a bow kieron though, that was a chanceless inning till now!!

virat you imbecile!!!!!!
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« Reply #95 on: December 11, 2011, 03:53:44 PM »
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #96 on: December 11, 2011, 03:54:56 PM »
btw out of this WI squad of 15 i think 7 of them have their career best in ODIs against us. not that it bothers me so much but it really irks a lot of my friends.

this is masterful from Polly!!
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« Reply #97 on: December 11, 2011, 03:57:31 PM »
10th six for Polly now!!

Beautiful to watch - he's just timing them and lifting them over the ropes
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #98 on: December 11, 2011, 04:01:57 PM »
ohhh what a catch by jinky! all over.

hell of an effort from pollard - really a standout knock on WI's tour (after Bravo's test exploits). if he can bat like this decently consistently, the world is his!

well done India 'I' team! good series win.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #99 on: December 11, 2011, 04:04:30 PM »
our bowling attack today -

Pathan (i predict 2-48)
Mithun (1-44)
Rahul Sharma (2-37)
Jadeja (2-31)
AllSorts (2-56)

212 all out.

Pathan 2-42
Mithun 2-32
Sharma 1-45
Jadeja 3-62
AllSorts 1-50

233.

Cant win 'em all i suppose!
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« Reply #100 on: December 11, 2011, 04:10:04 PM »
So MT will be dropped after this useful century I suppose!

WI should get over this Gayle nonsense. This Sammy stuff has run it's course. Why isn't Kirk Edwards playing ODI while jokere like Hyatt and Jason are playing? Even Rampaul could have played as a specialist batsman today.
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« Reply #101 on: December 11, 2011, 04:15:34 PM »
So MT will be dropped after this useful century I suppose!

WI should get over this Gayle nonsense. This Sammy stuff has run it's course. Why isn't Kirk Edwards playing ODI while jokere like Hyatt and Jason are playing? Even Rampaul could have played as a specialist batsman today.

nope it will probably be parthiv and rahane.
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« Reply #102 on: December 11, 2011, 04:25:26 PM »
my boy Rohit gets MoS !! well done sir
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« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2011, 04:38:29 PM »
So MT will be dropped after this useful century I suppose!

WI should get over this Gayle nonsense. This Sammy stuff has run it's course. Why isn't Kirk Edwards playing ODI while jokere like Hyatt and Jason are playing? Even Rampaul could have played as a specialist batsman today.

nope it will probably be parthiv and rahane.

Between Parthiv, Saha and Dinesh Karthik, who is the best keeper at the moment?

I think Dinesh Karthik ought to be a shoo-in for ODIs unless his keeping has been woeful.

India do not have a half-decent wicket keeper on the fringes. Dhoni himself is barely half-decent.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2011, 12:15:42 PM »
hahaha stylebhai at his best:


"I was searching for motivational videos on Youtube when I glanced through Redmond's clip. That was the 400m semi-final at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Redmond tore his hamstring at the midway and hopped his way to the finishing point as crowd gave him a standing ovation. That clip was an inspiration when I was cramping up with more than 20 runs to get to my ton," Tiwary told PTI in an interview.


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« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2011, 08:42:45 PM »
hahaha stylebhai at his best:


"I was searching for motivational videos on Youtube when I glanced through Redmond's clip. That was the 400m semi-final at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Redmond tore his hamstring at the midway and hopped his way to the finishing point as crowd gave him a standing ovation. That clip was an inspiration when I was cramping up with more than 20 runs to get to my ton," Tiwary told PTI in an interview.


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Well, at least something different compared to the boring post match speeches by other newbies..
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« Reply #106 on: December 13, 2011, 06:50:02 AM »
hahaha stylebhai at his best:


"I was searching for motivational videos on Youtube when I glanced through Redmond's clip. That was the 400m semi-final at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Redmond tore his hamstring at the midway and hopped his way to the finishing point as crowd gave him a standing ovation. That clip was an inspiration when I was cramping up with more than 20 runs to get to my ton," Tiwary told PTI in an interview.


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Well, at least something different compared to the boring post match speeches by other newbies..

Your opinion is wasted on people who are too lazy to even do the google for Redmond.
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« Reply #107 on: December 13, 2011, 08:38:27 AM »
yes. God forbid i find this immortalization of his personal landmark a bit droll. i wonder what exactly about it offends your sensibilities.

at least Redmond finished the race. what did Tiwary finish?

this is like when CP draws parallels between his and his team's exploits on the Chicago circuit with international cricket.
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« Reply #108 on: December 13, 2011, 08:50:54 AM »
So MT will be dropped after this useful century I suppose!

WI should get over this Gayle nonsense. This Sammy stuff has run it's course. Why isn't Kirk Edwards playing ODI while jokere like Hyatt and Jason are playing? Even Rampaul could have played as a specialist batsman today.

nope it will probably be parthiv and rahane.

Between Parthiv, Saha and Dinesh Karthik, who is the best keeper at the moment?

I think Dinesh Karthik ought to be a shoo-in for ODIs unless his keeping has been woeful.

India do not have a half-decent wicket keeper on the fringes. Dhoni himself is barely half-decent.

almost 30 Ranji teams and we cant look past Karthik and Parthiv?

we've played so much cricket recently that i cant even remember if Saha has been  given a fair run (probably not). He played for a while somewhere in between. I faintly recollect unanimous praise for his glovework.


moreover it feels like the selectors have decided to ignore the Plate league completely.

Dheeraj Jadhav for example has score five 100s in five matches this season and wont get a look-in.

his scores this season:

105*, 38*, 102, 106*, 10, 33, 73, 102*, 135*
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« Reply #109 on: December 13, 2011, 10:09:38 AM »
yes. God forbid i find this immortalization of his personal landmark a bit droll. i wonder what exactly about it offends your sensibilities.

at least Redmond finished the race. what did Tiwary finish?

this is like when CP draws parallels between his and his team's exploits on the Chicago circuit with international cricket.

The last line was funny.
Tiwary scored a hundred, a landmark without which, one doesn't get noticed in India.........contributed to India's victory...was declared the Man of the Match...which is really very nice. What more do you expect?
And on top of that he dedicated his century to those deceased in the Kolkata hospital fire......atleast he had the presence of mind and the emotion to remember that.
Why is an opinionated player disliked?! He is reasonably educated and can express himself...whatever is wrong there?
Do you always prefer dumbos...who just do their job and nothing more...hide somewhere in free time?
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« Reply #110 on: December 13, 2011, 10:39:07 AM »
So MT will be dropped after this useful century I suppose!

WI should get over this Gayle nonsense. This Sammy stuff has run it's course. Why isn't Kirk Edwards playing ODI while jokere like Hyatt and Jason are playing? Even Rampaul could have played as a specialist batsman today.

nope it will probably be parthiv and rahane.

Between Parthiv, Saha and Dinesh Karthik, who is the best keeper at the moment?

I think Dinesh Karthik ought to be a shoo-in for ODIs unless his keeping has been woeful.

India do not have a half-decent wicket keeper on the fringes. Dhoni himself is barely half-decent.

almost 30 Ranji teams and we cant look past Karthik and Parthiv?

we've played so much cricket recently that i cant even remember if Saha has been  given a fair run (probably not). He played for a while somewhere in between. I faintly recollect unanimous praise for his glovework.


moreover it feels like the selectors have decided to ignore the Plate league completely.

Dheeraj Jadhav for example has score five 100s in five matches this season and wont get a look-in.

his scores this season:

105*, 38*, 102, 106*, 10, 33, 73, 102*, 135*


has been clearly told he will never play for india again. not that he played the first time around but at least made the team.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #111 on: December 13, 2011, 11:15:04 AM »
yes. God forbid i find this immortalization of his personal landmark a bit droll. i wonder what exactly about it offends your sensibilities.

at least Redmond finished the race. what did Tiwary finish?

this is like when CP draws parallels between his and his team's exploits on the Chicago circuit with international cricket.

The last line was funny.
Tiwary scored a hundred, a landmark without which, one doesn't get noticed in India.........contributed to India's victory...was declared the Man of the Match...which is really very nice. What more do you expect?
And on top of that he dedicated his century to those deceased in the Kolkata hospital fire......atleast he had the presence of mind and the emotion to remember that.
Why is an opinionated player disliked?! He is reasonably educated and can express himself...whatever is wrong there?
Do you always prefer dumbos...who just do their job and nothing more...hide somewhere in free time?

this is nonsense. yuvraj singh took more than 3 years of ODI cricket to score his first 100 (that too against Bangladesh) and he was 'noticed' well before then.

same for Raina - he became a regular in 2009 after a series of 50s, not for scoring 100s. (mind you his first 100 came against hong kong well before this and i assure you this is not what got him noticed)

you get noticed for scoring runs, not landmarks. tiwary played well and won the MoM award. nobody is taking that achievement away from him. i already said hes earnt his spot in the ODI tour to Australia albeit not facing too much of a challenge.

i thought likening hitting a couple of balls from marlon samuels in his 80s and 90s, to finishing an olympic event with a torn hamstring was quite funny.
maybe not for you, but i generally find these exercises in self-aggrandizement to be hilarious. people have batted with cramps and dehydration for ages. he wants what exactly - a pat on the back for the 20 minutes of hardship?

and how is he opinionated? because he goes on youtube? or dedicates his award to people who died in a tragedy?

i find it pretty funny that i'm then being asked to like him for what he says in a press conference. what about how he bats?
i already said that it's good for him to get runs because he had a fairly poor and unfortunate start to his ODI career - you can only get odd games here or there with such a competitive middle order. personally i dont think much of his batting style - maybe he can be a grafter - but he looks good on the field. with the emphasis on looking good - he looks athletic and makes a good show of it. but he clearly isnt fit enough to bat more than 30 overs - something the oldies remind us of every day. and its the same for rohit.

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« Reply #112 on: December 13, 2011, 11:23:04 AM »
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DD think about it for a second. for a cricketer playing in india getting a 100, even of it is agains Kiribati is a big deal. He compared it to redmond. i have seen people start and stop their peans with SG or SRT. good for him. Kuch to diversity hain!!
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #113 on: December 13, 2011, 11:25:47 AM »
Yuvraj was a match-winner. He got noticed in his first match against Australia in Nairobi...ICC trophy. He scored 84, i think. He is a special case.
Again Raina........he was GC's favorite...and they persisted with him, despite his failures early in his career.
But Tiwary is from the East zone..........unless one does something spectacular, the East- zone guys don't get much opportunities, for whatever reasons. For Tiwary, the century was important. He doesn't have any God-father like Raina did, or doesn't have the special talent of Yuvraj also.
The guys who did well from the East zone are typically special, like Ganguly and Dhoni......
Wriddhiman Saha, inspite of being the best wicket-keeper at the moment and being a great bat too...is nowhere in  the scene..............he is just an also-ran, unfortunately.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #114 on: December 13, 2011, 12:29:12 PM »
Yuvraj was a match-winner. He got noticed in his first match against Australia in Nairobi...ICC trophy. He scored 84, i think. He is a special case.
Again Raina........he was GC's favorite...and they persisted with him, despite his failures early in his career.
But Tiwary is from the East zone..........unless one does something spectacular, the East- zone guys don't get much opportunities, for whatever reasons. For Tiwary, the century was important. He doesn't have any God-father like Raina did, or doesn't have the special talent of Yuvraj also.
The guys who did well from the East zone are typically special, like Ganguly and Dhoni......
Wriddhiman Saha, inspite of being the best wicket-keeper at the moment and being a great bat too...is nowhere in  the scene..............he is just an also-ran, unfortunately.
If you remove your blinkers, you will realize better.

and this has exactly what to do with me not liking Tiwary's batting? Raina was useless and in fact dropped from the team until he starred in the IPL. this was long after Chappell so it's not really an excuse.

and are you saying that Yuvraj, Ganguly and Dhoni were lucky because they were talented? a head-scratcher, that one. here i thought you just needed to have movie star looks to get into the Indian team.

i dont think its a zonal problem anymore - recently, Aaron, Yadav, S Tiwary, Dinda have all gotten a few games. it's just a warped selection system which is fuelled by too much cricket. impossible to have consistency because you're playing India 'B' or India 'C' teams half the time and when the main guys (who have won you a world cup mind you) come back you have to go to the back of the line. and when the main guys take a break again, its the flavor of the week who gets picked.

so many of the players have suffered because of this - think back to Saha, Badrinath, Dhawan, Naman Ojha, Pankaj Singh - gone for all purposes - they have to prove themselves all over again in another long Ranji season and then earn 2 or 3 ODIs.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #115 on: December 13, 2011, 01:01:59 PM »
yes. God forbid i find this immortalization of his personal landmark a bit droll. i wonder what exactly about it offends your sensibilities.

at least Redmond finished the race. what did Tiwary finish?

this is like when CP draws parallels between his and his team's exploits on the Chicago circuit with international cricket.

The last line was funny.
Tiwary scored a hundred, a landmark without which, one doesn't get noticed in India.........contributed to India's victory...was declared the Man of the Match...which is really very nice. What more do you expect?
And on top of that he dedicated his century to those deceased in the Kolkata hospital fire......atleast he had the presence of mind and the emotion to remember that.
Why is an opinionated player disliked?! He is reasonably educated and can express himself...whatever is wrong there?
Do you always prefer dumbos...who just do their job and nothing more...hide somewhere in free time?

this is nonsense. yuvraj singh took more than 3 years of ODI cricket to score his first 100 (that too against Bangladesh) and he was 'noticed' well before then.

same for Raina - he became a regular in 2009 after a series of 50s, not for scoring 100s. (mind you his first 100 came against hong kong well before this and i assure you this is not what got him noticed)

you get noticed for scoring runs, not landmarks. tiwary played well and won the MoM award. nobody is taking that achievement away from him. i already said hes earnt his spot in the ODI tour to Australia albeit not facing too much of a challenge.

i thought likening hitting a couple of balls from marlon samuels in his 80s and 90s, to finishing an olympic event with a torn hamstring was quite funny.
maybe not for you, but i generally find these exercises in self-aggrandizement to be hilarious. people have batted with cramps and dehydration for ages. he wants what exactly - a pat on the back for the 20 minutes of hardship?

and how is he opinionated? because he goes on youtube? or dedicates his award to people who died in a tragedy?

i find it pretty funny that i'm then being asked to like him for what he says in a press conference. what about how he bats?
i already said that it's good for him to get runs because he had a fairly poor and unfortunate start to his ODI career - you can only get odd games here or there with such a competitive middle order. personally i dont think much of his batting style - maybe he can be a grafter - but he looks good on the field. with the emphasis on looking good - he looks athletic and makes a good show of it. but he clearly isnt fit enough to bat more than 30 overs - something the oldies remind us of every day. and its the same for rohit.

Broadly, I agree with you, though zonal bias does play on my mind often after decades of denial. However, as k-slice said, just the fact that he didn't speak about his wife's aaloo-parantha, mother's lassi, God (SRT), Manmohan Singh, Dawood Pawar or god (God) is something that should be lauded, imho.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #116 on: December 13, 2011, 01:30:03 PM »
yes the dedication to the hospital victims (dont victims usually go to a hospital?) was sweet.
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #117 on: December 13, 2011, 03:24:16 PM »
yes. God forbid i find this immortalization of his personal landmark a bit droll. i wonder what exactly about it offends your sensibilities.

at least Redmond finished the race. what did Tiwary finish?

this is like when CP draws parallels between his and his team's exploits on the Chicago circuit with international cricket.

totally agree. I mean the International cricket is not nearly as competitive really. The passion is just not there! Good catch DD!
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #118 on: December 13, 2011, 03:28:38 PM »
these are 2 entirely different business........how can you compare them?
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Re: India VS West Indies ODI Thread
« Reply #119 on: December 13, 2011, 04:07:40 PM »
I too agree with the view that zonal bias is significantly less than it used to be. But as DD says, there are enough guys from the zones of the selectors who also have it equally difficult. Playing for the big names - Mumbai and Delhi - is no longer a fast-track as it used to be in the past. But it still seems easier than if you play for, say, an Orissa.

There is an incredible amount of luck involved in selection for anyone whose dad is not a well-known player.

Not only the right time (when someone else is injured!), it needs to be before the right tour, home/away factors and most frustratingly, who makes the news at the time of the selection. If a promising player is drafted in the squad and does not get a game, he is casually switched out if someone makes merry on the domestic circuit.

Then there are cases like Badrinath (who scored a century yesterday in his second match after his injury lay-off). A Dravid like candidate who should be tried out in tests rather than ODIs, he gets a break in ODIs - when India toured WI - had a few mediocre outings - and is immediately a discard. Even if harsh, it is understandable for ODIs. But this will hurt his test prospects for sure, with just one place up for grabs and Kohli/Rohit hovering over it. In the next 2 years, Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar(?) will wrap-up. Assuming Rohit and Kohli are a clinch, there will be 2 more places that fall vacant - for which we will have Raina, Pujara and Yuvraj (yet again) as prime contenders. Badri will be 33 then and he is unlikely to get another test match.

From what I have followed - and I have likely missed domestic matches so could be off - Tiwary did very well prior to the first time he was selected in the squad. Sadly, he had a bad injury when he was sure to be drafted and was totally in form, then he was out until now. Ironically, I think his run prior to this most recent selection was not as impressive as the earlier run. So I feel the slightly more distant past has helped his candidacy. Or he was just lucky to get selected now. Either way, full marks to him for making the most of the available opportunity.
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