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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #40 on: November 09, 2011, 09:44:38 AM »
india comes through.

sachin plays in second innings knock, fills fans with happiness, starved after a string of low scores from the man's bat
Dude Mujhe apke manasik stiti pein bharosa nahi rahan. Yerawda jaake jaldi upchaar karwayie!!

1. ODIs: World cup , 2011: 482 runs, 2 100s, 55.35 average. Highest run scorer for india, second in the WC
2.Tests: 34, 12, 16, 56, 23, 91,  7, 76.

Yes, he hasnt scored that 100th hundred but its not like he is jacking off either!

for true sachin fans that is jacking off :-D

yerwada is waiting for you  :D :evil4:
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #41 on: November 09, 2011, 11:42:12 AM »
india comes through.

sachin plays in second innings knock, fills fans with happiness, starved after a string of low scores from the man's bat
Dude Mujhe apke manasik stiti pein bharosa nahi rahan. Yerawda jaake jaldi upchaar karwayie!!

1. ODIs: World cup , 2011: 482 runs, 2 100s, 55.35 average. Highest run scorer for india, second in the WC
2.Tests: 34, 12, 16, 56, 23, 91,  7, 76.

Yes, he hasnt scored that 100th hundred but its not like he is jacking off either!

for true sachin fans that is jacking off :-D

yerwada is waiting for you  :D :evil4:
Yerawada mental asylum will not be the same. I for one would think twice before hitting golf balls into it by accident if Achutank was there!
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #42 on: November 09, 2011, 12:03:45 PM »
india comes through.

sachin plays in second innings knock, fills fans with happiness, starved after a string of low scores from the man's bat
Dude Mujhe apke manasik stiti pein bharosa nahi rahan. Yerawda jaake jaldi upchaar karwayie!!

1. ODIs: World cup , 2011: 482 runs, 2 100s, 55.35 average. Highest run scorer for india, second in the WC
2.Tests: 34, 12, 16, 56, 23, 91,  7, 76.

Yes, he hasnt scored that 100th hundred but its not like he is jacking off either!

for true sachin fans that is jacking off :-D

yerwada is waiting for you  :D :evil4:
Yerawada mental asylum will not be the same. I for one would think twice before hitting golf balls into it by accident if Achutank was there!

You never know with achutank....he may be allowed to play golf( by the authorities)...and we may be asked to do fielding for him inside the asylum compound. :glasses3:
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #43 on: November 09, 2011, 12:42:16 PM »
Good Test Win after being back in the game upon completion of the first inning.

Nice 4th innings effort and each of the top 5 contributed.  VS, GG, RD, SRT and VVS each had a significant inning in the match.  Very Very Special was there in the end again during the 4th inning chase to see the team through and made sure we hit the Laxman Rekha.  He made it a habit to thrive in these situations over the years that it is almost expected of him to come through if India has to win chasing in the 4th inning.

Dream debut for Ashwin and great first inning performance with the  ball from Ojha.  All and all a satisfying Test win.

By the did anyone miss Dartbhajan?  I guess not.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2011, 12:45:01 PM »
india comes through.

sachin plays in second innings knock, fills fans with happiness, starved after a string of low scores from the man's bat
Dude Mujhe apke manasik stiti pein bharosa nahi rahan. Yerawda jaake jaldi upchaar karwayie!!

1. ODIs: World cup , 2011: 482 runs, 2 100s, 55.35 average. Highest run scorer for india, second in the WC
2.Tests: 34, 12, 16, 56, 23, 91,  7, 76.

Yes, he hasnt scored that 100th hundred but its not like he is jacking off either!

for true sachin fans that is jacking off :-D

yerwada is waiting for you  :D :evil4:
Yerawada mental asylum will not be the same. I for one would think twice before hitting golf balls into it by accident if Achutank was there!

You never know with achutank....he may be allowed to play golf( by the authorities)...and we may be asked to do fielding for him inside the asylum compound. :glasses3:

b ke l mai hi mila kya subah se  >:D
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #45 on: November 09, 2011, 12:46:17 PM »
Good Test Win after being back in the game upon completion of the first inning.

Nice 4th innings effort and each of the top 5 contributed.  VS, GG, RD, SRT and VVS each had a significant inning in the match.  Very Very Special was there in the end again during the 4th inning chase to see the team through and made sure we hit the Laxman Rekha.  He made it a habit to thrive in these situations over the years that it is almost expected of him to come through if India has to win chasing in the 4th inning.

Dream debut for Ashwin and great first inning performance with the  ball from Ojha.  All and all a satisfying Test win.

By the did anyone miss Dartbhajan?  I guess not.

shatruganji

now if only laxmanji can make it a habit to play in other situations as well it will help the team  ;D
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #46 on: November 09, 2011, 01:40:16 PM »
Good Test Win after being back in the game upon completion of the first inning.

Nice 4th innings effort and each of the top 5 contributed.  VS, GG, RD, SRT and VVS each had a significant inning in the match.  Very Very Special was there in the end again during the 4th inning chase to see the team through and made sure we hit the Laxman Rekha.  He made it a habit to thrive in these situations over the years that it is almost expected of him to come through if India has to win chasing in the 4th inning.

Dream debut for Ashwin and great first inning performance with the  ball from Ojha.  All and all a satisfying Test win.

By the did anyone miss Dartbhajan?  I guess not.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #47 on: November 09, 2011, 01:55:34 PM »
Ok finally we win! What a relief.

I hope these batsmen play themselves into form and take the form to Australia. I know this is a spinner's track, but it is a great start for Ashwin. But will we get an opportunity to see what our new fast bowlers are like?

WN: You might wish that he got that landmark and there were no more "distractions", but following this for a while, you should know that is not going to happen. Once he gets one landmark, people will come up with others targets.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #48 on: November 09, 2011, 05:35:05 PM »
Harbhajan will now have to work hard to regain his place in the Test Team.

Laxman can continue to take rest in the first innings as long as he saves us in the second innings.

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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2011, 04:37:36 AM »
Harbhajan will now have to work hard to regain his place in the Test Team.

Laxman can continue to take rest in the first innings as long as he saves us in the second innings.

Historically Australian batsmen known to have weakness against off spinners. Considering that HS is a must for AUS series. In the past off spinners picked up lot of Aussie wickets, in turn Aussies accused them of chucking, no balling them in the past, HS & Murali were the recent victims.

RA is not a classical off spinner but he has lot of variation in fact more than HS. But if RA going to pick up 6-7 wickets in the First match in Aus then just watch how Aussies will go after his bowling action and the carom ball.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #50 on: November 10, 2011, 06:41:28 AM »
Ritesh writes on cricketking:

I solved a mystery yesterday. In a Test that could well see Sachin Tendulkar hit his 100th international century, only 8,000 people turned up on a Sunday to a ground that holds 50,000.

Of course such turnouts are not uncommon at marginal grounds where the BCCI insists on hosting Test matches, but this was the Feroz Shah Kotla in Delhi, where cricket has been played since 1883 and which staged its first test in 1948. Yet, what we saw yesterday was this:

empty_seats_delhi.jpg

Sunday began as a glorious day in Delhi, with no sign of the infamous Delhi smog and the first hint of winter in the air. While reading the previews of the Test over morning coffee, my wife and I agreed that it was a perfect day to watch some cricket. The plan was to get comfortable seats in a stand that serves good food and drink, so we could read the newspaper and chat, with occasional cricket interruptions. Hopefully nothing too exciting would happen in the game to affect our plan.

So we set off early for the 90 minute drive to the stadium. There were more policemen than spectators outside the stadium, and we played a little game of pointing out the paunchiest among them (we found at least a dozen officers of Gatting-esque proportions). When we politely asked where we could park, we were asked if we have “parking accreditation”. Since we were unfamiliar with the term, we were pointed to a location approximately 5km away, where a “park and ride” service was available.

20 minutes and much Google-Maps-fiddling later, we were parked and ready to ride. The organisers unfortunately were unclear about the “ride” part of the arrangement – we were expected to find our own rides back to the stadium, a fact that was complicated by the traffic restrictions around the parking area. But the day was still good for walking and sharing rickshaws with strangers and we had missed only an hour of play when we reached the stadium (again).

On reaching the ticket window, we were informed that the ticket window was closed because it was Sunday.

Just reflect on that. It is the first day of the only Test match you will host this year. The ground is not even one-fifth full. Yet you don’t sell tickets because it is Sunday.

The policemen (who were genuinely polite and helpful for a change) told us that tickets were also available at major banks and at least one of those banks worked on Sundays. They even gave us directions to the nearest branch, about 3km away. Of course the traffic restrictions were still in place, so again we walked. There was one person selling tickets there and at least 200 people in line. Still, we had come so far so we decided to wait.

At the counter they told us we could buy day-tickets for the concrete bleachers (exposed to the sun and approximately at square leg), but for any other stand they were selling only 5-day tickets. It was as if the DDCA (Delhi and Districts Cricket Association) deliberately wanted to keep the turnout low. We only wanted to watch the game on Sunday, but after much deliberation decided to buy tickets for all the five days because, well, we had come too far to back out now.

So triumphantly we walked to the stadium for the third time since the morning. By this time the game was midway through the second session. We were hungry and dehydrated and the missus was growing irritated, but hey we at least had tickets. Unseen treats awaited us on the other side of the security barrier.

Then the metal detector beeped. Our new tablet computer was the problem. According to the fine print behind the ticket, you are allowed to take phones and digital cameras to the ground, but there was no mention of tablets. I gave a full technology demo of my tablet, sent a text message from it (to prove it was a phone) and took a picture (to prove it was a camera). But it fell somewhere in the twilight zone of technology products and the final decision was no.

We had a choice – we could go back to our car (which was parked 5km away), keep the tablet there, walk back and catch maybe 90 minutes of play. Or we could cut our losses and run. We ran. We had spent half a day and several thousand rupees already, and not even the enticing prospect of watching part of Umesh Yadav’s Test debut could bring us back to the stadium.

I guess we were insufficiently committed to Test cricket. With fans like these, no wonder Test cricket is dying in the subcontinent.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #51 on: November 10, 2011, 05:32:55 PM »
Ritesh writes on cricketking:

I solved a mystery yesterday. In a Test that could well see Sachin Tendulkar hit his 100th international century, only 8,000 people turned up on a Sunday to a ground that holds 50,000.

Of course such turnouts are not uncommon at marginal grounds where the BCCI insists on hosting Test matches, but this was the Feroz Shah Kotla in Delhi, where cricket has been played since 1883 and which staged its first test in 1948. Yet, what we saw yesterday was this:

empty_seats_delhi.jpg

Sunday began as a glorious day in Delhi, with no sign of the infamous Delhi smog and the first hint of winter in the air. While reading the previews of the Test over morning coffee, my wife and I agreed that it was a perfect day to watch some cricket. The plan was to get comfortable seats in a stand that serves good food and drink, so we could read the newspaper and chat, with occasional cricket interruptions. Hopefully nothing too exciting would happen in the game to affect our plan.

So we set off early for the 90 minute drive to the stadium. There were more policemen than spectators outside the stadium, and we played a little game of pointing out the paunchiest among them (we found at least a dozen officers of Gatting-esque proportions). When we politely asked where we could park, we were asked if we have “parking accreditation”. Since we were unfamiliar with the term, we were pointed to a location approximately 5km away, where a “park and ride” service was available.

20 minutes and much Google-Maps-fiddling later, we were parked and ready to ride. The organisers unfortunately were unclear about the “ride” part of the arrangement – we were expected to find our own rides back to the stadium, a fact that was complicated by the traffic restrictions around the parking area. But the day was still good for walking and sharing rickshaws with strangers and we had missed only an hour of play when we reached the stadium (again).

On reaching the ticket window, we were informed that the ticket window was closed because it was Sunday.

Just reflect on that. It is the first day of the only Test match you will host this year. The ground is not even one-fifth full. Yet you don’t sell tickets because it is Sunday.

The policemen (who were genuinely polite and helpful for a change) told us that tickets were also available at major banks and at least one of those banks worked on Sundays. They even gave us directions to the nearest branch, about 3km away. Of course the traffic restrictions were still in place, so again we walked. There was one person selling tickets there and at least 200 people in line. Still, we had come so far so we decided to wait.

At the counter they told us we could buy day-tickets for the concrete bleachers (exposed to the sun and approximately at square leg), but for any other stand they were selling only 5-day tickets. It was as if the DDCA (Delhi and Districts Cricket Association) deliberately wanted to keep the turnout low. We only wanted to watch the game on Sunday, but after much deliberation decided to buy tickets for all the five days because, well, we had come too far to back out now.

So triumphantly we walked to the stadium for the third time since the morning. By this time the game was midway through the second session. We were hungry and dehydrated and the missus was growing irritated, but hey we at least had tickets. Unseen treats awaited us on the other side of the security barrier.

Then the metal detector beeped. Our new tablet computer was the problem. According to the fine print behind the ticket, you are allowed to take phones and digital cameras to the ground, but there was no mention of tablets. I gave a full technology demo of my tablet, sent a text message from it (to prove it was a phone) and took a picture (to prove it was a camera). But it fell somewhere in the twilight zone of technology products and the final decision was no.

We had a choice – we could go back to our car (which was parked 5km away), keep the tablet there, walk back and catch maybe 90 minutes of play. Or we could cut our losses and run. We ran. We had spent half a day and several thousand rupees already, and not even the enticing prospect of watching part of Umesh Yadav’s Test debut could bring us back to the stadium.

I guess we were insufficiently committed to Test cricket. With fans like these, no wonder Test cricket is dying in the subcontinent.
Pathetic state of affairs . period.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #52 on: November 10, 2011, 06:34:21 PM »
Harbhajan will now have to work hard to regain his place in the Test Team.

Laxman can continue to take rest in the first innings as long as he saves us in the second innings.

Historically Australian batsmen known to have weakness against off spinners. Considering that HS is a must for AUS series. In the past off spinners picked up lot of Aussie wickets, in turn Aussies accused them of chucking, no balling them in the past, HS & Murali were the recent victims.

RA is not a classical off spinner but he has lot of variation in fact more than HS. But if RA going to pick up 6-7 wickets in the First match in Aus then just watch how Aussies will go after his bowling action and the carom ball.

1. HS is not in the second test squad
2. If PO and RS continue to do well - which is imminent - it will be tough to justify taking or even putting HS ahead of them in the team (specially if he has nothing to show in domestics)
3. We should not decide our team based on what Aussie media will say or do to them. That is silliness. I am assuming Amarnath (who called selectors a bunch of jokers) would not like to be called one himself :)
4. We need to get out of "sacred cows" mentality - I think HS needs to earn his way back in.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2011, 04:13:14 AM »
Harbhajan will now have to work hard to regain his place in the Test Team.

Laxman can continue to take rest in the first innings as long as he saves us in the second innings.

Historically Australian batsmen known to have weakness against off spinners. Considering that HS is a must for AUS series. In the past off spinners picked up lot of Aussie wickets, in turn Aussies accused them of chucking, no balling them in the past, HS & Murali were the recent victims.

RA is not a classical off spinner but he has lot of variation in fact more than HS. But if RA going to pick up 6-7 wickets in the First match in Aus then just watch how Aussies will go after his bowling action and the carom ball.

1. HS is not in the second test squad
2. If PO and RS continue to do well - which is imminent - it will be tough to justify taking or even putting HS ahead of them in the team (specially if he has nothing to show in domestics)
3. We should not decide our team based on what Aussie media will say or do to them. That is silliness. I am assuming Amarnath (who called selectors a bunch of jokers) would not like to be called one himself :)
4. We need to get out of "sacred cows" mentality - I think HS needs to earn his way back in.

WN, HS will be a 3rd spinner for Aus. Let’s not forget HS is a match winner. After RA & PO’s show in the First test  some people got  too carried away .Bowling in home conditions against the WI batsmen  (for some of them it’s  a first tour)  is different than spinning in Aus conditions.

Some of these WI batsmen played spinners like they never faced them before even HS would have got 10 wickets in this match.  PO was lucky he got few LBW decisions in the first innings that were very debatable. Australian batsmen will play this combo of PO & RA easily. Umpires won't be friendly like they are in India.

I don’t agree with your point  that HS not done anything in the last few months .HS bowled beautifully in the CL T20 Final & in the Challenger trophy.  Some of the Batsmen picked in this team have not done anything in the last few weeks before the test match but still got selected. Why in India always a step motherly treatment to the bowlers?
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2011, 04:23:24 AM »
HS is a match winner ? In Australia ? One test match please..where he won us a game in Aus or even one one day match!
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« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2011, 04:48:39 AM »
HS is a match winner ? In Australia ? One test match please..where he won us a game in Aus or even one one day match!

GK, Common ..HS won many matches for India .Let’s not forget his contribution to the Indian Team over the years.HS is still good. Don’t have HS stats in Aus but I do remember that he did bowl well against them in India and won matches when AK was absent. 

Do you have stats of any other current bowler in the team  who won matches for India against Aus in India or in Aus?
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #56 on: November 11, 2011, 06:10:19 AM »
India has seen a few one/two- match wonders in the past like Jasu Patel, Narendra Hirwani....even Shivlal Yadav. I am not suggesting that Ashwin and Ojha shall prove to be the same...they are both very talented. But let's not dump Bhajji just yet.....this guy is a long-race horse. He needs to do some work on his bowling, no doubt.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #57 on: November 11, 2011, 07:56:48 AM »
I feel Ashwin is the real deal... yet to be convinced by Ojha...

Of course, I'm basing this all on body language, not on the craft, which, in case of Ojha I haven't folowed that much.
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« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2011, 09:25:34 AM »
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2011, 06:41:33 PM »
HS is a match winner ? In Australia ? One test match please..where he won us a game in Aus or even one one day match!

GK, Common ..HS won many matches for India .Let’s not forget his contribution to the Indian Team over the years.HS is still good. Don’t have HS stats in Aus but I do remember that he did bowl well against them in India and won matches when AK was absent. 

Do you have stats of any other current bowler in the team  who won matches for India against Aus in India or in Aus?
you are the one who mentioned that HS is a match winner. By the way , last 2 test matches won in Aus were won by Irfan Pathan and Ajit Agarkar ( bowlers always win matches and batsman set you up) !
Forget Bhajji , even  Murali had a horrible time in Aus always as an off spinner
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #60 on: November 11, 2011, 06:43:16 PM »
by the way, why can't Bhajji take wickets in Ranji matches and force his way in. That is how it should be!
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2011, 01:58:22 AM »
by the way, why can't Bhajji take wickets in Ranji matches and force his way in. That is how it should be!

GK,Not a problem. HS should play domestic matches to get back to the national team but the same rule should be made applicable to the Batsmen and to other fast bowlers. Do you think ZK will play Ranaji matches and perform well to get back?  The problem is some of the players left to play in the domestic matches never got back IP,Bala,Kaif..list is long. No motivation? Unresponsive pitches? Politics?

HS problem started when he had a show down with VM over the “make it large” advt.
Just before the England tour started VM tweeted and teased him on the issue, MSD is VM’s brand ambassador. It seems to have disturbed HS. It’s a different matter that VM is bankrupt now and expect
HS and other TAX payers in India to bail him out :P

In England HS looked not focused on the game and it showed in his bowling. To make the matter worse he let the team down by not bowling in a match due to some injury. If that was the reason selectors kept him out so far then they have done the right thing but they should give the same treatment to ZK too.

In the past  there were many instances during the match if the fast bowler was injured, hamstring or whatever they used to tape themselves and  bowl with a shorter run up or even try  off spin. Few years back we saw AK bowling with  plasters on his face.

But do not write off HS he will come back to the team for sure.
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Re: WI in India - 2011 - Test Series
« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2011, 02:53:12 AM »
by the way, why can't Bhajji take wickets in Ranji matches and force his way in. That is how it should be!

GK,Not a problem. HS should play domestic matches to get back to the national team but the same rule should be made applicable to the Batsmen and to other fast bowlers. Do you think ZK will play Ranaji matches and perform well to get back?  The problem is some of the players left to play in the domestic matches never got back IP,Bala,Kaif..list is long. No motivation? Unresponsive pitches? Politics?

HS problem started when he had a show down with VM over the “make it large” advt.
Just before the England tour started VM tweeted and teased him on the issue, MSD is VM’s brand ambassador. It seems to have disturbed HS. It’s a different matter that VM is bankrupt now and expect
HS and other TAX payers in India to bail him out :P

In England HS looked not focused on the game and it showed in his bowling. To make the matter worse he let the team down by not bowling in a match due to some injury. If that was the reason selectors kept him out so far then they have done the right thing but they should give the same treatment to ZK too.

In the past  there were many instances during the match if the fast bowler was injured, hamstring or whatever they used to tape themselves and  bowl with a shorter run up or even try  off spin. Few years back we saw AK bowling with  plasters on his face.

But do not write off HS he will come back to the team for sure.
Nice theory on a bowler that basically throws darts.
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« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2011, 09:13:33 AM »
by the way, why can't Bhajji take wickets in Ranji matches and force his way in. That is how it should be!

GK,Not a problem. HS should play domestic matches to get back to the national team but the same rule should be made applicable to the Batsmen and to other fast bowlers. Do you think ZK will play Ranaji matches and perform well to get back?  The problem is some of the players left to play in the domestic matches never got back IP,Bala,Kaif..list is long. No motivation? Unresponsive pitches? Politics?

HS problem started when he had a show down with VM over the “make it large” advt.
Just before the England tour started VM tweeted and teased him on the issue, MSD is VM’s brand ambassador. It seems to have disturbed HS. It’s a different matter that VM is bankrupt now and expect
HS and other TAX payers in India to bail him out :P

In England HS looked not focused on the game and it showed in his bowling. To make the matter worse he let the team down by not bowling in a match due to some injury. If that was the reason selectors kept him out so far then they have done the right thing but they should give the same treatment to ZK too.

In the past  there were many instances during the match if the fast bowler was injured, hamstring or whatever they used to tape themselves and  bowl with a shorter run up or even try  off spin. Few years back we saw AK bowling with  plasters on his face.

But do not write off HS he will come back to the team for sure.

Mallya is not bankrupt. He has plenty of cash and other assets. It is only the airline which is publicly owned anyway that is in trouble (which airline in India is not).

HS on the other hand needs to prove in the domestic matches that he still can bowl. He got only one wicket in two innings against a lowly team of Orissa.
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« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2011, 01:09:05 PM »
Vincent, They will never be bankrupt as long as there are banks  to lend  & govt to bail  them out. If the business is doing good they hold more & more equity stake otherwise liquidate and pass the burden to the lending banks & to the Public who holds the shares.

KFA in 2010 Nov completed restructuring  8,000 crore  debt, with all the lenders agreeing to cut interest rates and convert part of loans to equity.Since then they have been converting debt to equity. In July 2011 major stakeholders in KFA, UBL & KFL have pledged their entire stake in the airline with  its lenders. Who’s the main lender? SBI.


They create monopoly in a business, lead a lavish life with bank money then when the consumers are stranded expect the Govt to bail them out with the Taxpayers Money. This worked in developed nations for a while  but in country like India where 50% of the population still under the poverty line asking for too much.

Now HS has to pay the price of playing domestic matches because he took such characters to court :'(
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« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2011, 02:56:03 PM »
Vincent, They will never be bankrupt as long as there are banks to lend & govt to bail  them out. If the business is doing good they hold more & more equity stake otherwise liquidate and pass the burden to the lending banks & to the Public who holds the shares.

Are you talking of the banks which regularly peddle their 'mai-baap' status through adverts reminiscent of the 50-60s, but have mountains for small lenders and molehills for the billionaire lenders to climb while lending? But then, that's the lesson of US capitalism.

KFA in 2010 Nov completed restructuring  8,000 crore  debt, with all the lenders agreeing to cut interest rates and convert part of loans to equity.Since then they have been converting debt to equity. In July 2011 major stakeholders in KFA, UBL & KFL have pledged their entire stake in the airline with  its lenders. Who’s the main lender? SBI.

Who makes the decisions at SBI? How are they arrived at? How did the banks fund it? Were they funding the business model (offer 5-star in a 1-star sector, because glamour attracts more bytes and investment), or lending against collaterals, as they have done across the advanced world (Iceland, anyone)? The charitable view would be there was a punt on valuation and the hope of selling the costs through an IPO (that was always unviable). The fundamental basis of business is that costs must be funded by income, yet most businesses in India (following the US model) work on the hope of a sustained economic growth, which itself is based on flimsy premises and easily undermined global economy. What does that say about capitalism?

They create monopoly in a business, lead a lavish life with bank money then when the consumers are stranded expect the Govt to bail them out with the Taxpayers Money. This worked in developed nations for a while  but in country like India where 50% of the population still under the poverty line asking for too much.

Did they actually work in the developed nations too? Or does the 'for a while' indicate until the Ponzi was exposed?
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« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2011, 04:23:19 PM »
Bringing it back to cricket:
this is bull*, specially coming from my favorite player. I understand the sight-screen problem, but the grass? come on SRT.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/series-tournaments/west-indies-in-india/top-stories/Sachin-Tendulkar-complains-about-Eden-Gardens-sight-screen-and-grassy-pitch/articleshow/10706248.cms
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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2011, 05:49:32 PM »
FV, IMO* A country should follow the Economic policy that suits them rather than copying the West blindly. There are Pros and Cons.

Why pick on SBI? As such India is a very corrupt country.
Vested Interests are busy breaking the group that stood up against corruption.
Even to get a KYC done they expect money. You complain and CC their Manager they keep misplacing the passport copies and give one reason or the other. If someone is visiting and wants a temporary Internet connection they will make you cry. What a shame! ..Nothing changed there.

SRT is corrupt too :o From K-slice link:


“Tendulkar also pointed at the patches of grass that was distinctly visible at the high-court end and it appeared that it would be trimmed the day before the match so as to assist the Indian spinners.”
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« Reply #68 on: November 14, 2011, 07:55:50 AM »
india feels weight of tragedy

tendulkar misses out again ;D

the farce of the 100th
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« Reply #69 on: November 14, 2011, 08:03:21 AM »
india feels weight of tragedy

tendulkar misses out again ;D

the farce of the 100th

Indians are by and large a stupid race.
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« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2011, 09:54:44 AM »
wow - dravid on the verge of becoming 2011's highest run-getter!
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« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2011, 09:55:18 AM »
also is it just me or the pitch already look worn?!?
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« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2011, 09:58:00 AM »
another master class from india's best batsman ever
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« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2011, 09:58:17 AM »
Dravid is also a hop and a skip from 13,000 Test runs - only the 2nd in the world!
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« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2011, 10:08:08 AM »
another master class from india's best batsman ever


I still think SRT is India's best batsman ever..
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« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2011, 10:13:14 AM »
ok this is officially awesome. dravid is no longer drab-id. he is hitting 6s now! (warming up for IPL)
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« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2011, 10:34:51 AM »
Nice to see Dravid trying to increase the run-rate and unfortunately losing out his wicket in the process
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« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2011, 10:37:33 AM »
ah wtf. another wicket falls. i hate night watchmen!
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« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2011, 10:41:25 AM »
oh this is just bloody ridiculous. couldn't they have gone off 4 balls ago????



Yuvraj Singh didn't seem best pleased to have to come out to bat this late in the day. He strolls to the middle only to be told that he won't have to bat today after all, the umpires deem the light too poor to continue.
87.3
Roach to Sharma, OUT, 135.5 kph, and another wicket here, the nightwatchman Ishant Sharma is gone, a bouncer from Roach just outside off, Ishant forced to play that, hangs his bat at it after standing tall, feathered to the keeper, West Indies ending the day strongly
I Sharma c †Baugh b Roach 0 (1b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00
87.2
Roach to Laxman, 1 run, 134.9 kph, squirts that to backward square leg, nearly another played on there, he pushed at the ball well away from his body, that was a close call
Sri is nor impressed: "The value of the rupee in india has gone down and so have the value of runs scored here."
87.1
Roach to Laxman, no run, 130.6 kph, starts with a short ball, pulled to square leg by Laxman
New ball taken. Roach has it
End of over 87 (2 runs) India 345/4
       KC Brathwaite        2-0-9-1
VVS Laxman        72* (114b 5x4)          MN Samuels        16-0-65-0
86.6
Brathwaite to Dravid, OUT, 75.7 kph, Brathwaite gets his first Test wicket, and it's a huge wicket, Dravid stays back to a length delivery and is bowled off the under-edge, that one turned in quite a but, he is furious with himself to be dismissed at this late stage of the day, that too when West Indies were just going through the motions, you can't make this stuff up
R Dravid b Brathwaite 119 (207b 9x4 2x6) SR: 57.48
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« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2011, 12:21:03 PM »
another master class from india's best batsman ever


I still think SRT is India's best batsman ever..

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