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[fineleg]

Matches can be watched on Dish or DirecTV Network by rich doctors! and by Lawyers vacationing for summer

Comb through the U.S. government's salary data, and one thing is clear: It pays to be a doctor.

According to the most recent information available from the Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics, medical occupations account for nine of the 10 highest-paying jobs in the nation.

Look down to the next 10 highest-income jobs, and you'll find... more doctors. In all, 14 of America's 20 best-paying jobs are held by people who make careers out of fixing our minds, bodies and teeth:


Surgeon -- $181,850*

Anesthesiologist -- $174,610

OB/GYN -- $174,610

Oral and maxillofacial surgeon -- $169,600

Internist -- $156,790

Prosthodontist -- $156,710

Orthodontist -- $153,240

Psychiatrist -- $151,380

Pediatrician -- $140,000

Family or general practitioner -- $137,980

Physician/surgeon, all other -- $137,100

Dentist -- $132,660

Podiatrist -- $111,130

Dentist, any other specialist -- $106,040

Once you look beyond the doctors, dentists and surgeons, however, the nation's other best-salaried jobs are fairly diverse. Although all of these jobs require a college education, the types of work necessary experience and training vary widely.

1. Chief Executive Officer -- $140,880
Job Description: Oversees all aspects of a corporation, including the company's goals and policies.
Qualifications: Varies, but generally at least a bachelor degree or MBA and considerable work experience.

2. Airline Pilot -- $134,090
Job Description: Transports passengers and cargo via airplane.
Qualifications: Pilot's license, which requires applicants to be at least 23 years old, have at least 1,500 hours of flying experience, and pass a barrage of written and psychological tests.

3. Lawyer -- $110,590
Job Description: Counsels clients on legal matters and represents their party in criminal and civil trials.
Qualifications: Graduation from a law school accredited by the American Bar Association (ABA) and successful completion of their jurisdiction's bar exam.

4. Engineering Manager -- $140,210
Job description: Supervises workers who design machinery, products and quality assurance testing -- often in industrial plants.
Qualifications: At least a bachelor's degree and considerable work experience as an engineer.

5. Air Traffic Controller -- $100,430
Job description: Organizes and controls the flow of airplanes into and out of an airport.
Qualifications: Pre-employment testing, four years of college and/or three years of work experience, completion of the FAA Academy and an additional controller training program.

6. Computer and Information Systems Manager -- $100,110
Job description: Plans and oversees a company's computer-related goals, including supervising computer programmers and support specialists.
Qualifications: At least a bachelor's degree (MBA preferred) and considerable work experience.

7. Marketing Manager -- $100,020
Job description: Develops a company's marketing strategy, including demand for its product or service and how to target potential customers.
Qualifications: Bachelor or master's degree and considerable work experience.

8. Natural Sciences Manager -- $97,560
Job description: Oversees the research and development activities of chemists, biologists, physicists and other life and physical scientists.
Qualifications: Strong technical knowledge, at least a bachelor's degree and considerable work experience.

9. Sales Manager -- $96,950
Job description: Directs the firm's sales staff, including assigning territories and setting goals.
Qualifications: Bachelor's or master's degree and considerable work experience.

10. Astronomer -- $96,780
Job description: Uses physics and math to develop and solve problems in navigation, space flight, satellite communications and methods of collecting astronomical data.
Qualifications: A doctoral degree, postdoctoral research and additional experience.     


* Mean annual salaries, BLS November 2004 salary data
source: America's Highest Paying Jobs

[toney]

fineleg, can you add the link too? The better picture would be to check the average salaries as well as graphical illustrations. For eg, when a surgeon's salary is 181K, does that mean all surgeons or ones who have built a certain amount of reputation?

I think Sahir is one of the few here with the potential to watch all matches on PPV I am sure he will be earning upwards of 200/hr in a few years time. I have heard of some IT guys on Wall Street earning huge salaries like 180K+ and bonuses.

[fineleg]

fineleg, can you add the link too? The better picture would be to check the average salaries as well as graphical illustrations. For eg, when a surgeon's salary is 181K, does that mean all surgeons or ones who have built a certain amount of reputation?

I think Sahir is one of the few here with the potential to watch all matches on PPV I am sure he will be earning upwards of 200/hr in a few years time. I have heard of some IT guys on Wall Street earning huge salaries like 180K+ and bonuses.

Added link. I agree, usually different salary surveys give some varying numbers. I guess we should not attach too much value to the exact numbers, just a range or an idea of what different occupations are paying "approximately" - widely varying conditions and qualifications are to be expected.

Sahir should start his own CricketVoice Webcast and stream the video. We can all pay him a $1 like most of u do for the bets!

[justforkix]

Sahir should start his own CricketVoice Webcast and stream the video. We can all pay him a $1 like most of u do for the bets!

Yup. And then when Dish issues a notice to Sahir, he can fight his own case. No need to pay lawyer fees 

[toney]

fineleg, he can do it officially too. That is, first of all, he should go to the Supreme court and expose how DishNetwork and Echostar/Willow are exploiting the poor under privileged immigrant population from South East Asia.
During this hearing, fineleg (wearing sunglasses to hide swollen eyes spent from crying over missing the Inda C Vs U*a Presidents XI) will testify how DishNetwork ruined her life.
Dex will make a short appearance as the human rights activist who had been providing humble solace to such deprieved cricket fans by starting a cricket DG. The fact that membrs with over 125 posts will have privileged access to some content will not be revealed.

Sahir will win the case and become the new face of the Indian community in the US. Beside *hi and his charka, everyone will also keep a small photo of Sahir in his black robes in court (fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)
After Sahir wins the case, the courts force Dish to give a "legal" stream to an able webcaster. Dex, using his long time buddy CP will get the broadcasting rights and make a fortune out of it. All exisiting members of the DG will receive lifelong memberships to all cricket on earth and we all live happily ever after.

[fineleg]

fineleg, he can do it officially too. That is, first of all, he should go to the Supreme court and expose how DishNetwork and Echostar/Willow are exploiting the poor under privileged immigrant population from South East Asia.
During this hearing, fineleg (wearing sunglasses to hide swollen eyes spent from crying over missing the Inda C Vs U*a Presidents XI) will testify how DishNetwork ruined her life.
Dex will make a short appearance as the human rights activist who had been providing humble solace to such deprieved cricket fans by starting a cricket DG. The fact that membrs with over 125 posts will have privileged access to some content will not be revealed.

Sahir will win the case and become the new face of the Indian community in the US. Beside *hi and his charka, everyone will also keep a small photo of Sahir in his black robes in court (fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)
After Sahir wins the case, the courts force Dish to give a "legal" stream to an able webcaster. Dex, using his long time buddy CP will get the broadcasting rights and make a fortune out of it. All exisiting members of the DG will receive lifelong memberships to all cricket on earth and we all live happily ever after.

"All exisiting members of the DG will receive lifelong memberships to all cricket on earth and we all live happily ever after."

Fairytale ending Good.

[poondu]

(fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)

Toney,
Didn't know that Fineleg was a female. Waiting for ur "more on that later" part.   

[openforum]

Haha applause to you all. One more lucrative career I guess is to be a consultant brokering jobs for IT people. I saw a lot of people who early upwards of half a million a year.

[toney]

openforum, is that with private business or as a salaried person? Private businesses dont count.

[openforum]

openforum, is that with private business or as a salaried person? Private businesses dont count.

ok. My bad then, I think a consultancy is a private business
 

[LosingNow]

Any doctors in the DG?

Wonder why some of these "high paid" OB/Gyns and Anaesthesiologists have stopped practicing in states like IL (hint : Malpractice insurance premiums.. just pray that you dont get sued once or else your career could be history). 

[fineleg]

(fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)

Toney,
Didn't know that Fineleg was a female. Waiting for ur "more on that later" part.   

Poondu,
Toney also does not know - however, he has great trust in the x-ray vision of CP. CP supposedly analyzes folks across internet, and finds out if they are guy, girl, bi, gay, lez etc. 

[fineleg]

Any doctors in the DG?

Wonder why some of these "high paid" OB/Gyns and Anaesthesiologists have stopped practicing in states like IL (hint : Malpractice insurance premiums.. just pray that you dont get sued once or else your career could be history). 

Losing Now,
Can u clarify what u mean - OB/Gyn and Anaes...have stopped practicing?

[Sahir]

Any doctors in the DG?

Wonder why some of these "high paid" OB/Gyns and Anaesthesiologists have stopped practicing in states like IL (hint : Malpractice insurance premiums.. just pray that you dont get sued once or else your career could be history). 

It is kind of wierd that we do not have any doctors on the DG.  No, they continue to practice in IL as well.  Statistically, the numbers of those specialists in those high premium areas have not actually decreased, as one might think.  Well, you would be history if you got sued and you did not have insurance.  Therefore, even though insurance may cost up to $30,000 a year in some instances, it is still highly advisable to have it.  Not having it is just asking for bankruptcy should you get sued.  There is no question the skyrocketing premiums are a concern and it was actually part of the Bush platform in the past election-- tort reform (tort law is personal injury law, for the uninitiated, and medical malpractice falls under the tort category).  Basically, Bush wanted to put a cap on the amount a plaintiff could recover for punitive damages in a lawsuit (once again for the uninitiated, punitive damages are those that are awarded for behavior that schocks the conscience; for example, if the wrong limb was amputated due to the negligence of a surgeon, the process would be to award actual damages by assessing what the value of that limb is-- it's not an easy thing to do, but on top of those damages, the jury can award punitive damages to punish, which is usually a far greater amount than the actual damages).  However, as of yet, premiums are yet to go down and are actually unlikely to ever do so.  As an aside, even attorney's malpractice premiums are getting higher .  But that's OK-- I can make do with six figures plus!

[fineleg]

Any doctors in the DG?

Wonder why some of these "high paid" OB/Gyns and Anaesthesiologists have stopped practicing in states like IL (hint : Malpractice insurance premiums.. just pray that you dont get sued once or else your career could be history). 

It is kind of wierd that we do not have any doctors on the DG.  No, they continue to practice in IL as well.  Statistically, the numbers of those specialists in those high premium areas have not actually decreased, as one might think.  Well, you would be history if you got sued and you did not have insurance.  Therefore, even though insurance may cost up to $30,000 a year in some instances, it is still highly advisable to have it.  Not having it is just asking for bankruptcy should you get sued.  There is no question the skyrocketing premiums are a concern and it was actually part of the Bush platform in the past election-- tort reform (tort law is personal injury law, for the uninitiated, and medical malpractice falls under the tort category).  Basically, Bush wanted to put a cap on the amount a plaintiff could recover for punitive damages in a lawsuit (once again for the uninitiated, punitive damages are those that are awarded for behavior that schocks the conscience; for example, if the wrong limb was amputated due to the negligence of a surgeon, the process would be to award actual damages by assessing what the value of that limb is-- it's not an easy thing to do, but on top of those damages, the jury can award punitive damages to punish, which is usually a far greater amount than the actual damages).  However, as of yet, premiums are yet to go down and are actually unlikely to ever do so.  As an aside, even attorney's malpractice premiums are getting higher .  But that's OK-- I can make do with six figures plus!

Higher premium => higher the cost of the doctor for the common man (through his own "healthcare insurance" maybe). So, doctor won't be on the downside (or lawyer) - they'll just charge more fees.

I have not read abt doctors abandoning IL or other states - is that a phenomenon?

Sahir - glad u feel content with six figures! though u have not said if it is 100,000K or 999,999K - which of the six figures ur happy with! I can guess though

[Sahir]

Another thing that these stats need to incorporate is the amount of variance within the averages.  It also needs to specify how many are essentially entrepreneurs, in a sense, by opening up their own practice and becoming businessmen/women.  I know the average salary for a lawyer can vary greatly-- probably more than most professions.  I know people that graduate from law school and struggle to find jobs offering more than $50,000 while others can make up to $150,000 in their first year out of law school.  Furthermore, the gap can increase much more about 7-8 years after law school when those working for big firms that make partner could be making millions a year while others are still only making around $100,000.  Of course, some choose to work in public interest sectors, making much less money (around $35,000).

[fineleg]

So, no doctor is interested in cricket, eh?
Not a single one on this DG! Perhaps they are too busy with other things.

Are doctors interested in sports 

[Sahir]

Higher premium => higher the cost of the doctor for the common man (through his own "healthcare insurance" maybe). So, doctor won't be on the downside (or lawyer) - they'll just charge more fees.

I have not read abt doctors abandoning IL or other states - is that a phenomenon?

Sahir - glad u feel content with six figures! though u have not said if it is 100,000K or 999,999K - which of the six figures ur happy with! I can guess though

Well, doctors cannot make it up by increasing the fees because most income is through insurance companies (people usually do not pay out of their pockets).  The insurance companies have standard amounts they pay for specific services, some companies more than others.  That is why many physicians pick and choose which insurance companies they accept (hint: the ones that pay more).  None of them pay the full amount requested by the physician, with the excpetion of the Saudi embassy, but that is a pretty rare insurance to have.

[fineleg]

Higher premium => higher the cost of the doctor for the common man (through his own "healthcare insurance" maybe). So, doctor won't be on the downside (or lawyer) - they'll just charge more fees.

I have not read abt doctors abandoning IL or other states - is that a phenomenon?

Sahir - glad u feel content with six figures! though u have not said if it is 100,000K or 999,999K - which of the six figures ur happy with! I can guess though

Well, doctors cannot make it up by increasing the fees because most income is through insurance companies (people usually do not pay out of their pockets).  The insurance companies have standard amounts they pay for specific services, some companies more than others.  That is why many physicians pick and choose which insurance companies they accept (hint: the ones that pay more).  None of them pay the full amount requested by the physician, with the excpetion of the Saudi embassy, but that is a pretty rare insurance to have.

Did not understand the Saudi embassy reference?

What abt lawyers? Do people use insurance (not as common as compared to health insurance i guess - for eg. many dont have any Legal insurance to cover for payment to lawyers, while they always have health coverage)

[Sahir]

Sahir - glad u feel content with six figures! though u have not said if it is 100,000K or 999,999K - which of the six figures ur happy with! I can guess though

Well, there is no way I could make the second number for at least 8-9 years yet, but Insha'Allah, someday I will.  The first number, I should be able to get when I graduate next year-- woohoo!  That said, job satisfaction is more important than the money, no matter how much it is.

[Sahir]

Did not understand the Saudi embassy reference?

What abt lawyers? Do people use insurance (not as common as compared to health insurance i guess - for eg. many dont have any Legal insurance to cover for payment to lawyers, while they always have health coverage)

The Saudi embassy provides medical insurance for many Saudis in the US, and the rest of the world as well, I presume.  No, people usually do not use insurance to pay lawyers, because there really is no such thing as legal insurance.  It actually is a major problem because many of those people that really need legal services are simply not able to afford them.  There are plenty of people in jail that probably would not be there if they received quality legal service, or had the money to afford a decent attorney that was not overburdened with a huge caseload.  In certain cases, particularly tort law, lawyers do not charge up front, but rather charge a contingency fee (pay about 25%-40% of winnings, should you win).  These are all those "injured in an accident" lawyers you see on TV commercials.

[bouncer]

Did not understand the Saudi embassy reference?

What abt lawyers? Do people use insurance (not as common as compared to health insurance i guess - for eg. many dont have any Legal insurance to cover for payment to lawyers, while they always have health coverage)

The Saudi embassy provides medical insurance for many Saudis in the US, and the rest of the world as well, I presume.  No, people usually do not use insurance to pay lawyers, because there really is no such thing as legal insurance.  It actually is a major problem because many of those people that really need legal services are simply not able to afford them.  There are plenty of people in jail that probably would not be there if they received quality legal service, or had the money to afford a decent attorney that was not overburdened with a huge caseload.  In certain cases, particularly tort law, lawyers do not charge up front, but rather charge a contingency fee (pay about 25%-40% of winnings, should you win).  These are all those "injured in an accident" lawyers you see on TV commercials.

also known as "ambulance chasers"

[Sahir]

Yes, although "ambulance chasing" is actually against the model rules of professional conduct for a lawyer.  A lawyer can advertise, but cannot actually go to hospitals, etc. looking for injured people, asking them to sue.  You have to wait for the injured to come to you.

[bouncer]

Yes, although "ambulance chasing" is actually against the model rules of professional conduct for a lawyer.  A lawyer can advertise, but cannot actually go to hospitals, etc. looking for injured people, asking them to sue.  You have to wait for the injured to come to you.

Actually, the secretaries in doctors' offices will act as their agents. It happened to me.  When I said that I feel no pain affter 3 days and would lnot sue, the lady was very disappointed. Looking back, I should have sued the hell out of that drunk driver who ruined my Grand canyon trip by ramming our car from behind while we were on our way to Newark airport.  Instead we spent the next 8 hours at the hospital.

[Sahir]

Yes, although "ambulance chasing" is actually against the model rules of professional conduct for a lawyer.  A lawyer can advertise, but cannot actually go to hospitals, etc. looking for injured people, asking them to sue.  You have to wait for the injured to come to you.

Actually, the secretaries in doctors' offices will act as their agents. It happened to me.  When I said that I feel no pain affter 3 days and would lnot sue, the lady was very disappointed. Looking back, I should have sued the hell out of that drunk driver who ruined my Grand canyon trip by ramming our car from behind while we were on our way to Newark airport.  Instead we spent the next 8 hours at the hospital.

Yeah, I don't doubt that goes on...highly illegal, though.  Yeah, drunk driver-- open and shut case, as long as the car was insured, allowing you to recover money for pain and suffering from the insurance company.

[dhruvdeepak]

fineleg, he can do it officially too. That is, first of all, he should go to the Supreme court and expose how DishNetwork and Echostar/Willow are exploiting the poor under privileged immigrant population from South East Asia.
During this hearing, fineleg (wearing sunglasses to hide swollen eyes spent from crying over missing the Inda C Vs U*a Presidents XI) will testify how DishNetwork ruined her life.
Dex will make a short appearance as the human rights activist who had been providing humble solace to such deprieved cricket fans by starting a cricket DG. The fact that membrs with over 125 posts will have privileged access to some content will not be revealed.

Sahir will win the case and become the new face of the Indian community in the US. Beside *hi and his charka, everyone will also keep a small photo of Sahir in his black robes in court (fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)
After Sahir wins the case, the courts force Dish to give a "legal" stream to an able webcaster. Dex, using his long time buddy CP will get the broadcasting rights and make a fortune out of it. All exisiting members of the DG will receive lifelong memberships to all cricket on earth and we all live happily ever after.

HAAHAHAHAA great one 

[Sahir]

fineleg, he can do it officially too. That is, first of all, he should go to the Supreme court and expose how DishNetwork and Echostar/Willow are exploiting the poor under privileged immigrant population from South East Asia.
During this hearing, fineleg (wearing sunglasses to hide swollen eyes spent from crying over missing the Inda C Vs U*a Presidents XI) will testify how DishNetwork ruined her life.
Dex will make a short appearance as the human rights activist who had been providing humble solace to such deprieved cricket fans by starting a cricket DG. The fact that membrs with over 125 posts will have privileged access to some content will not be revealed.

Sahir will win the case and become the new face of the Indian community in the US. Beside *hi and his charka, everyone will also keep a small photo of Sahir in his black robes in court (fineleg will have more in her purse but more on that later)
After Sahir wins the case, the courts force Dish to give a "legal" stream to an able webcaster. Dex, using his long time buddy CP will get the broadcasting rights and make a fortune out of it. All exisiting members of the DG will receive lifelong memberships to all cricket on earth and we all live happily ever after.

ROFLMAO-- just saw this-- too damn funny, yaar!   India C v. U*a President's XI-- hahahahahahaha

[Aloo Kashmiri Ul Haq]

i will be going to med school provided i get in  else i will end up being an engineering manager but those numbers seem quite wobbly to me, radiologists and uncologists typically make $300,000 per year. Most Engineering managers don't make 140,000$. Engineers with a bachelor's degree make around $80,000-90,000.

[Cover Point]

So, no doctor is interested in cricket, eh?
Not a single one on this DG! Perhaps they are too busy with other things.

Are doctors interested in sports 

Whats with Girls continuing to run after doctors. The lesbian ones too

[fineleg]

So, no doctor is interested in cricket, eh?
Not a single one on this DG! Perhaps they are too busy with other things.

Are doctors interested in sports 

Whats with Girls continuing to run after doctors. The lesbian ones too

which gals run after docs? who/where?

[Cover Point]

which gals run after docs? who/where?

Arre naaraaz kyon hoti ho? Maine kya kaha?

[prfsr]

which gals run after docs? who/where?

Medical transcriptionists? 
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