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[indcric]

I didn't find much information on Internet regarding this matter.

In some articles I read on cricinfo, Tendular was not much interested in UDRS, but was interested in hawk-eye. Dhoni doesn't value Hawk-eye much. And BCCI, as we all know, is stupid.

I get the impression that since our captain & players don't know how to use UDRS to their advantage, they are against it. In one series, we couldn't use it better and the opposition used it better. So, they are blaming the UDRS for it.

Is my thinking right? or am I missing something?

[dhruvdeepak]

yeah this is a good discussion. it is incredibly annoying!!!

[SRTian]

yeah this is a good discussion. it is incredibly annoying!!!

that series was a disaster.. we had an abysmal percentage 1/18 correct and sri lanka had a huge success rate.. but sri lanka in lanka is as we all know, we have seen some atrocious decisions given..so i guess sach and dhoni went against it!

[WicketView]

yeah this is a good discussion. it is incredibly annoying!!!

that series was a disaster.. we had an abysmal percentage 1/18 correct and sri lanka had a huge success rate.. but sri lanka in lanka is as we all know, we have seen some atrocious decisions given..so i guess sach and dhoni went against it!

There is not much point blaming Sri Lanka for this. Many of the decisions that we challenged should not have been challenged, and that is why the challenges were failures.

However, on the whole, I can only think of the review system as a good thing as long as you think of it as a means to correct howlers.

[indcric]

So we have to blame our captain for being dumb, and for being unable to understand how to use UDRS for our advantage.  By having UDRS for that tournament and correctly using it, he could have avoided the disastrous ODI results we had in the recently concluded ------(whatsitsname) meaningless triangular tournament.

[RicePlateReddy]

However, on the whole, I can only think of the review system as a good thing as long as you think of it as a means to correct howlers.

Exactly - where there is no element of doubt! It is a joke if the UDRS results in an incorrect decision being given (and it has in its history thus far). It is baffling that something this obvious has been missed, but then you have to recollect that some genius ICC panel came up with the concept of supersubs in ODIs being decided before the toss.

[indcric]

However, on the whole, I can only think of the review system as a good thing as long as you think of it as a means to correct howlers.

Exactly - where there is no element of doubt! It is a joke if the UDRS results in an incorrect decision being given (and it has in its history thus far). It is baffling that something this obvious has been missed, but then you have to recollect that some genius ICC panel came up with the concept of supersubs in ODIs being decided before the toss.

Didn't understand. How can you blame UDRS or ICC for failures of a 3rd umpire?

[Cernunnos]

The UDRS is a good system as it is meant to eliminate howlers, and not to necessarily overrule the on-field umpires. However, the third umpire should be trained in the principles of videography and should have substantial knowledge of the technology behind it to understand it's limitations. Ideally, third umpires should be engineers.

[fineleg]

It is very silly of BCCI/Tendulkar/Dhoni et.al. to keep rejecting the UDRS. UDRS is here to stay, and if UDRS is to be used in WC2011, then India will be at a disadvantage in not having enough experience with the system.

Also, we have been at receiving end of so many howlers in Tests, that it is baffling to note that we of all countries will now be against UDRS.

[WicketView]

However, on the whole, I can only think of the review system as a good thing as long as you think of it as a means to correct howlers.

Exactly - where there is no element of doubt! It is a joke if the UDRS results in an incorrect decision being given (and it has in its history thus far). It is baffling that something this obvious has been missed, but then you have to recollect that some genius ICC panel came up with the concept of supersubs in ODIs being decided before the toss.

Didn't understand. How can you blame UDRS or ICC for failures of a 3rd umpire?

Well not the UDRS, but the ICC for sure. They are the ones who appoint the panel of 3rd umpires and were responsible for the nincompoops (and their lack of training). Then again, I was mostly criticizing the Indian attempt at trying to reverse decisions that were mostly correct thereby wasting their quota of reviews.

[WicketView]

The UDRS is a good system as it is meant to eliminate howlers, and not to necessarily overrule the on-field umpires. However, the third umpire should be trained in the principles of videography and should have substantial knowledge of the technology behind it to understand it's limitations. Ideally, third umpires should be engineers.

This sounds like overkill. I think a bit of common sense and prior explanations should suffice.

[Cernunnos]

The UDRS is a good system as it is meant to eliminate howlers, and not to necessarily overrule the on-field umpires. However, the third umpire should be trained in the principles of videography and should have substantial knowledge of the technology behind it to understand it's limitations. Ideally, third umpires should be engineers.

This sounds like overkill. I think a bit of common sense and prior explanations should suffice.

Maybe. But, I will remind you of Asad Rauf's overturning Benson's decision of Chanderpaul. He was sure he saw an edge on the replays, when actually there was none. At that time I was convinced that the UDRS umpire requires a different skillset than an on-field umpire.

[RicePlateReddy]

The UDRS is a good system as it is meant to eliminate howlers, and not to necessarily overrule the on-field umpires. However, the third umpire should be trained in the principles of videography and should have substantial knowledge of the technology behind it to understand it's limitations. Ideally, third umpires should be engineers.

This sounds like overkill. I think a bit of common sense and prior explanations should suffice.

Maybe. But, I will remind you of Asad Rauf's overturning Benson's decision of Chanderpaul. He was sure he saw an edge on the replays, when actually there was none. At that time I was convinced that the UDRS umpire requires a different skillset than an on-field umpire.

I think it proves Asad Rauf is an idiot. Garner implied as much.

[WicketView]

The UDRS is a good system as it is meant to eliminate howlers, and not to necessarily overrule the on-field umpires. However, the third umpire should be trained in the principles of videography and should have substantial knowledge of the technology behind it to understand it's limitations. Ideally, third umpires should be engineers.

This sounds like overkill. I think a bit of common sense and prior explanations should suffice.

Maybe. But, I will remind you of Asad Rauf's overturning Benson's decision of Chanderpaul. He was sure he saw an edge on the replays, when actually there was none. At that time I was convinced that the UDRS umpire requires a different skillset than an on-field umpire.

Yes, the skill set for a third umpire is different in that mostly it is a much smaller subset.The third umpire does not require the levels of concentration required by on field umpires.I think this is a big deal ...many of us would find it hard to concentrate ball after ball the way an umpire has to. And of course, a third umpire has to understand some technicality about say Hawk Eye to be able to judge stuff efficiently. However, most of this is common sense. Someone with a bit of experience maybe able to guess some of the inevitable issues, while another person may not due to lack of background. But if this is explained to him, I don't see why he cannot understand that.

I think the problem with ICC was that they did not make any attempt at explaining to these guys how to interpret stuff, and perhaps did not give clear enough instructions to them. Or perhaps Rauf is just a moron, as KoP says. More likely a combination of the two.

[12th_Man]

http://cricket.rediff.com/special/2010/sep/07/world-cup-in-2011-to-use-udrs-confirms-bcci.htm
Exclusive: 2011 World Cup to use Umpire Decision Review System
Harish Kotian reveals how next year's cricket World Cup, to be played on the sub-continent, will use the Umpire Decision Review System.
A Rediff.com exclusive!

Next year's 50-overs World Cup will use the Umpire Decision Review System, UDRS, the Board of Control for Cricket has confirmed to Rediff.com

World Cup tournament Director Ratnakar Shetty revealed that the system would be put in place for the mega event after broadcaster ESPN Star Sports agreed to implement the technology which was proposed to them by the International Cricket Council [ Images ] and also agreed by the three host nations.

"The World Cup is an ICC [ Images ] event and the ICC had already taken a decision that they are going to have the Umpire Decision Review System for the World Cup subject to the broadcaster accepting it. Only day before yesterday (September 4) ESPN has conveyed that they will be happy to do that," Shetty, who is also the BCCI's Chief Administrative Officer, told Rediff.com

India [ Images ] rejected the use of UDRS during last month's Test series in Sri Lanka [ Images ] and for next month's home series against Australia [ Images ].

Captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni [ Images ] does not seem to be a big fan of UDRS technology.

'It is still not a 100% correct system. Let us wait and see till the ICC comes up with a foolproof plan,' Dhoni had said before the Sri Lanka series.

However, with the clamour growing for use of technology from all quarters -- mainly the players -- the ICC had no option but to implement the UDRS at the World Cup.

Shetty revealed that the UDRS technology may not be in place for all matches, but for important games from the knockout stages onwards.

"It may not be there for all the games," he said, "but for some games we will have the umpire review system. I don't know which games, but maybe the knockout stage games. I am not aware of the details of the same. But one thing is certain that the umpire decision review system will be there for the World Cup."

ICC regulations state that the mandatory requirements needed for the UDRS system are: Super Slow Motion cameras, ball-tracking technology and a stump mike, which is clearly audible and can pick up edges.