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[suraj]

‘Everybody can see what is going on’
Jaydip Sengupta

KOLKATA, APRIL 20: It’s almost as if Sourav Ganguly has given up hope. With his name not figuring in the team for the one-day matches in the West Indies, the former India skipper seemed a bitter man today.

‘‘Everybody can see what is going on, what can I say,’’ he told The Indian Express. Asked if he saw the line-up as a signal for the World Cup, which he is keen to play, he said: ‘‘It would have been a good opportunity had I been in the side.’’

So is this the end of the road? ‘‘I really don’t know what the future holds for me. I will continue playing domestic cricket,’’ said Ganguly, who lost his place in the side after coach Greg Chappell took over and the regime change in the BCCI.

http://www.samachar.com/showurl.htm?rurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/story/2856.html?headline=

[ramshorns]

‘Everybody can see what is going on’
Jaydip Sengupta

KOLKATA, APRIL 20: It’s almost as if Sourav Ganguly has given up hope. With his name not figuring in the team for the one-day matches in the West Indies, the former India skipper seemed a bitter man today.

‘‘Everybody can see what is going on, what can I say,’’ he told The Indian Express. Asked if he saw the line-up as a signal for the World Cup, which he is keen to play, he said: ‘‘It would have been a good opportunity had I been in the side.’’

So is this the end of the road? ‘‘I really don’t know what the future holds for me. I will continue playing domestic cricket,’’ said Ganguly, who lost his place in the side after coach Greg Chappell took over and the regime change in the BCCI.

http://www.samachar.com/showurl.htm?rurl=http://www.indianexpress.com/story/2856.html?headline=

It is mind boggling to think the state of SG the cricketer.  This time last year he was at the helm of the affairs.  But I will be honest with you.  I never expected him to be in the state he is today.  Keeping cricketing merits aside did anyone among you predict this.  What a turn of events??WOW.  Felt like responding after reading through this little piece and thinking.   I feel sad for him that way.   I am sure it is a helpless feeling.

[Libran]

It takes two to tango and GC and More are doing it pretty well...The Dance of Death

[tombaan]

dance of redemption for indian fans with lot of happenings and wins......SG, Pravin amre, Kambli there are so many it is a team game after alll..you cannot keep people on for ever.....unless it is kaif- mohmd kaif

[mm]

kaif will be out if he does not click in WI - this regime will not carry dead wood.  Perform or Perish

feel bad for SG but he dug his own grave and instead of answering with the bat he answered with his mouth. credit must be given to him for making us a fighting, confident unit.

[gouravk]

Hmmm - I doubt whether Kaif will be in the starting Xi in the west indies even

[keep-it-cool]

It is actually a bit rich .. this “everybody can see what is going on”.

I’ll tell you what I see:
- a team that is winning like never before
- a team that is fielding like never before
- a team that is chasing down targets like never before
- a team that is aggressive like never before

[Libran]

It is actually a bit rich .. this “everybody can see what is going on”.

I’ll tell you what I see:
- a team that is winning like never before
- a team that is fielding like never before
- a team that is chasing down targets like never before
- a team that is aggressive like never before

A team that carries scores of 0,0,5,0,0,4 and a selection committee that speaks of past performance when it suits them...So if a fielder can save 25 runs and not score ..that is good enough...but if a batsman can field reasonably and make up for lapses(if any) with huge sixers ...that is a strict no..no...

Oh man...Am I impressed 

[Blwe_torch]

kaif will be out if he does not click in WI - this regime will not carry dead wood.  Perform or Perish

feel bad for SG but he dug his own grave and instead of answering with the bat he answered with his mouth. credit must be given to him for making us a fighting, confident unit.

in which utopian world are u living?
perform and perish in GC/More's team?!...Hah!
This is politics man!

[keep-it-cool]

It is actually a bit rich .. this “everybody can see what is going on”.

I’ll tell you what I see:
- a team that is winning like never before
- a team that is fielding like never before
- a team that is chasing down targets like never before
- a team that is aggressive like never before

A team that carries scores of 0,0,5,0,0,4 and a selection committee that speaks of past performance when it suits them...So if a fielder can save 25 runs and not score ..that is good enough...but if a batsman can field reasonably and make up for lapses(if any) with huge sixers ...that is a strict no..no...

Oh man...Am I impressed 

see, even u r impressed .. that wasn't so difficult, was it?

and obviously the following factors have no bearing on the issue
- that to see the huge sixers, one would have to view tapes that are 2-3 years old
- that scores of 0,0,5,0,0,4 were preceded by a very good run in ODIs (and not 2-3 years back either)
- that it is a more likely scenario that the fielder who saves 25 runs gets back in form than the once upon a time huge six hitter improves his fielding and running between the wickets

[keep-it-cool]

kaif will be out if he does not click in WI - this regime will not carry dead wood.  Perform or Perish

feel bad for SG but he dug his own grave and instead of answering with the bat he answered with his mouth. credit must be given to him for making us a fighting, confident unit.

in which utopian world are u living?
perform and perish in GC/More's team?!...Hah!
This is politics man!

If this is politics, I LUV POLITICS!!!!

[senthilpeter]

kaif will be out if he does not click in WI - this regime will not carry dead wood.  Perform or Perish

feel bad for SG but he dug his own grave and instead of answering with the bat he answered with his mouth. credit must be given to him for making us a fighting, confident unit.

in which utopian world are u living?
perform and perish in GC/More's team?!...Hah!
This is politics man!

If this is politics, I LUV POLITICS!!!!

I never knew Politics actually delivered results - 4 of which KIC listed above 

[dextrous]

He should consider playing county cricket, perhaps. Though, Mongia has been performing there rather well and can't even make it to India A. So, I suppose, it's over, which has been my guess for weeks now.

[achutank]

county cricket would be nice, but now with all his business interests and his restaurant doing well i don't think he would be wanting to saty out of the country for longish periods of time.

[Libran]

He should consider playing county cricket, perhaps. Though, Mongia has been performing there rather well and can't even make it to India A. So, I suppose, it's over, which has been my guess for weeks now.

If SG were to give up so easily.....he would not have made a comeback after his disastrous debut tour of Australia

It does not take much to change the events.....we have not seen the end of this story...not as yet atleast.....

Come September and we can discuss......

Anways, the issue in my post was not about SG ...atleast not the core of this discussion...And one does not necessarily have to rewind tapes to differentiate good and average performances....A century in a RCA XI was the oft repeated measure of performance and we have seen the end result....

The issue is of the different scales of measurement used for different people by the same set of Management team.
Yes ...I am impressed....at the lack of consistency, the lack of honesty, the lack of self respect ...One thing in  abundance is the Licking and slurping

Oh yeah!! Go on and increase my smite count...atleast reiterates the fact that some people's acidity increases on reading what I write.

[achutank]

lets wait and watch what happens in WI. i think from that we will know the genesis of the team, who is in and who is definitely out. this ranji season is going to be thrilling. hope bcci can put some live TV by then for domestic matches.

[keep-it-cool]

achu, more than WI, I think SA would be the litmus test (at least for the ODI team) ... a good team (ranked no 2) and tough conditions ... WI, i would expect India to win the ODIs comfortably .. tests, you never know!

[achutank]

achu, more than WI, I think SA would be the litmus test (at least for the ODI team) ... a good team (ranked no 2) and tough conditions ... WI, i would expect India to win the ODIs comfortably .. tests, you never know!

the wc07 is in june 07.

so when do you think is the right time to announce the 21 atleast and put them throught the grind in  camp? therefore when are we playing SA then?

[dhruvdeepak]

achu, more than WI, I think SA would be the litmus test (at least for the ODI team) ... a good team (ranked no 2) and tough conditions ... WI, i would expect India to win the ODIs comfortably .. tests, you never know!

the wc07 is in june 07.

so when do you think is the right time to announce the 21 atleast and put them throught the grind in  camp? therefore when are we playing SA then?

sir it is in march. we are playing SA sometime in october this year

[keep-it-cool]

yeah, and there is also the champions trophy, then a tour to bangladesh, an asian test championship .. all before the WC ... and haven't we also heard of Abu Dhabi planning a triseries sometime in September .. dont be surprised if we go there too ....

... so a long time to go before a camp!!

[achutank]

achu, more than WI, I think SA would be the litmus test (at least for the ODI team) ... a good team (ranked no 2) and tough conditions ... WI, i would expect India to win the ODIs comfortably .. tests, you never know!

the wc07 is in june 07.

so when do you think is the right time to announce the 21 atleast and put them throught the grind in  camp? therefore when are we playing SA then?

sir it is in march. we are playing SA sometime in october this year

MARCH! no wonder sg feels he has no percentage of ocomin back. the FWC is in june thi year. apologies.

[keep-it-cool]

yeah .. june will be fun ... Soccer WC and India play WI in tests

[justforkix]

sir it is in march. we are playing SA sometime in october this year

HUH. we are playing SA in Dec/Jan.

[RicePlateReddy]

He should consider playing county cricket, perhaps. Though, Mongia has been performing there rather well and can't even make it to India A. So, I suppose, it's over, which has been my guess for weeks now.

Both good points, I agree. Batting in England will even help Saurav get more practice with the bouncing and seaming ball, and keep him less accessible to the pesky media intent on blowing up everything.

[fineleg]

sir it is in march. we are playing SA sometime in october this year

HUH. we are playing SA in Dec/Jan.

Kix all this confusion on dates is attributed to poor UI navigation flow in cricinfo for Intl calendar.

[mm]

as achu said - it will be hard for SG to leave his restuarant and other interests (no bollywood starlets in boring county villages) and grind it out in the county circuit.  he will not want to appear like a ageing warrior being shunted to a "desk job".  he has been enourmously successful as the indian captain so he can just leave with his head intact, if not held high !