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Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« on: July 05, 2010, 06:24:32 PM »
German lessons

By Jurgen Klinsmann
World Cup-winning striker, former Germany coach and BBC pundit

Germany have impressed everyone with their attacking displays en route to the semi-finals of this World Cup.

But it is only six years ago that, like England this summer, they were returning home early from a major tournament and wondering what the future held.

Germany had to rebuild after the disaster of the 2004 European Championship in Portugal. We did not win a game and failed to get out of our group.

I got the chance to decide on the direction we took when I agreed to take over as Germany coach that summer, with current manager Joachim Loew as my assistant.

'Jogi' and I began the whole regeneration process by trying to give our national team an identity.

We eventually decided to go down an attack-minded route, passing the ball on the ground from the back to the front line as quickly as possible using dynamic football.

From that, we created a style of play that this Germany team in South Africa now really lives and breathes. Since 2004, we have reached two World Cup semi-finals and the final of Euro 2008.

Can England recover from their poor showing in South Africa as quickly as Germany did six years ago? Yes, but they cannot just copy the German style and expect that to succeed for them.

Every nation has its own culture and specific environment as well as its own footballing identity. England have to develop their own vision and decide how they should play.

As I found, making that vision work is not an easy process. It will take time and England's results might not be positive while it takes effect.

England will also need the help of the Premier League. Every club coach will have their own philosophy but I tried to work with those in the Bundesliga to build something together.

There are a lot of foreign players and managers in England but that should not make a difference. You simply have to explain to them what the style of play is that you want to develop and be prepared to persevere.

When Jogi and I took over the German side, we made our plans very public and made it clear that we were trying to rebuild from the bottom up.

The German Football Association (DFB) helped us by putting a lot of pressure on all the first and second division teams in the Bundesliga to build academy programmes and ensure talented young players were coming through but we still had to decide on our playing style.

To do that, we quizzed everyone we could.

We held workshops with German coaches and players, asking them to write down on flip charts three things: how they wanted to play, how they wanted to be seen to be playing by the rest of the world and how the German public wanted to see us playing.

If we could define all of that, we thought we could lay out how we wanted to work and then, from there, sort out the training and paperwork behind the scenes.

What we ended up with amounted to 10 or 12 bullet points laying out our proposals. We then announced that it was our intention to play a fast-paced game, an attacking game and a proactive game.

That last term was something the Germans did not really like because they did not really understand what proactive meant. We just told them it meant we did not react to what our opponents did, we played the way that was right for us.

Once we had done all that, we created a curriculum for German football and presented it to the Bundesliga and DFB boards.

At that point, I told them I did not have the time to implement the strategy at all levels because I only had two years to prepare for the World Cup, so I asked for Germany's Under-21 team to adopt it and that was it.

I brought in a former international team-mate of mine, Dieter Eilts, to run the under-21s and said they had to play the same way as the senior team because they would be a feeder for it.

I was always looking long-term but I knew our plans would be measured by our success at the 2006 World Cup.

There was a lot of negative media at the start. Everybody agreed German football had to change after 2004 but nobody actually wanted to adopt our proposals.

For example, we told the Bundesliga teams and coaches that their players needed to be fitter to play the kind of football we wanted to play.

That meant carrying out fitness tests every three months, which did not go down well with some clubs because I was able to prove that some of them were training their players properly and others were not.

I was basically doubted for the two years I was coach - and when we lost 4-1 to Italy in a friendly game three months before the 2006 World Cup, everybody wanted my blood!

We had another game three weeks later against the United States and we won that one 4-1.

That victory saved my job and kept me in charge for the World Cup because the DFB had been ready to make a change. They wanted the conservative approach again, not the revolution.

But I kept on being positive, explaining that this was how I wanted us to play. I did not know if we would master it in time for the 2006 World Cup but we would give it a shot.

We had the players for four solid weeks before the tournament began and were able to get our thoughts across. They agreed to train the way we wanted them to and do extra work. Soon they started to believe in the system.

That was crucial because, no matter what your job is, you need to identify yourself with the work that you are doing and be happy.

I was happy because, as a former striker, I liked the style we intended to play. I could never coach a team that played defensive-minded football.

I also think the players understood that I was the one taking the risk and that if it did not work out the DFB would send me packing back to California!

We started well at the 2006 World Cup and the public began to feel that something special was going to happen.

In the second game, when we beat Poland with a last-minute goal, the whole nation embraced us and said "yeah, that's our team and that's how we want them to play". We lost in the semi-final against Italy but I was still very proud.

After that World Cup, I was burned out after two years of banging my head against a wall but I made it clear to the DFB that Jogi had to take over after me to continue the job we had started.

He has continued to develop that initial style of play and is enjoying success. It has taken Germany six years to learn to play it properly - and it has developed along the way - but the players are completely comfortable with it now.

Germany's style of play might work for England because, in a way, Germany now play a lot like a typical Premier League team, with the emphasis on pacy attacks.

But whatever approach the England team decides on - whether it is attacking or defensive, patient or high tempo - everybody in the English game needs to sign up to it.

After all, it is the players, coaches and clubs who will help to make it work.

Jurgen Klinsmann was speaking to Chris Bevan in Cape Town.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8789682.stm


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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 05:19:35 AM »
Klinsmann played the game with flair and also encouraged the team to play a more creative and free-flowing football, as a coach.
The German team of the early nineties....starring Klinsmann, Voeller, Mattheus, Hassler......and later Andre Moeller really started this new style of German football.
Michael Ballack, Klose, Bierhoff later tried to carry on with the new style( although, not too succesfully....they lost the 2002 final to Brazil).
Klinsmann's team in 2006 again demonstrated the new resolve and they were the crowd favorites inspite of their loss to Italy in the semis.
2010, seems to be a high-point of the new style of Germany. Let's hope they go all the way, this time.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 10:47:27 AM »
whats funny is that im doing a strategic planning exercise for a client and we employ exactly the same approach in our work...
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 04:27:46 PM »
Klinsmann played the game with flair and also encouraged the team to play a more creative and free-flowing football, as a coach.
The German team of the early nineties....starring Klinsmann, Voeller, Mattheus, Hassler......and later Andre Moeller really started this new style of German football.
Michael Ballack, Klose, Bierhoff later tried to carry on with the new style( although, not too succesfully....they lost the 2002 final to Brazil).
Klinsmann's team in 2006 again demonstrated the new resolve and they were the crowd favorites inspite of their loss to Italy in the semis.
2010, seems to be a high-point of the new style of Germany. Let's hope they go all the way, this time.

Couldn't disagree more.

Rumenigge, Littbarski, Voeller, Klinnsmann, Matthaeus, Moeller, Hassler, Brehme — they all belong to the same school of football whose other side would be represented by Hrubesch, Breigel, Aguenthaler, Berthold, Buchwald, Sammer, Effenberg, Jeremies, Frings etc.

Some of them often brought a certain level of ball skill to the table. But more than that, they brought in hard tackling, no nonsense, never say die, and often ugly football that found more support in refugee quarters of Kolkata than even Germany.

The Mannschaft V2010 so far looks somewhat different. Klose and Podolski are old school and bring in utilitarianism from the previous generations — the young Turks on the other hand serve up something more — a joy in playing that — at least I have rarely seen in German sport! 
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 05:57:16 PM »
I thought, Torsten Frings possesses a good amount of ball-skills besides being a tough tackler.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2010, 05:54:25 AM »
Klinsmann played the game with flair and also encouraged the team to play a more creative and free-flowing football, as a coach.
The German team of the early nineties....starring Klinsmann, Voeller, Mattheus, Hassler......and later Andre Moeller really started this new style of German football.
Michael Ballack, Klose, Bierhoff later tried to carry on with the new style( although, not too succesfully....they lost the 2002 final to Brazil).
Klinsmann's team in 2006 again demonstrated the new resolve and they were the crowd favorites inspite of their loss to Italy in the semis.
2010, seems to be a high-point of the new style of Germany. Let's hope they go all the way, this time.

Couldn't disagree more.

Rumenigge, Littbarski, Voeller, Klinnsmann, Matthaeus, Moeller, Hassler, Brehme — they all belong to the same school of football whose other side would be represented by Hrubesch, Breigel, Aguenthaler, Berthold, Buchwald, Sammer, Effenberg, Jeremies, Frings etc.

Some of them often brought a certain level of ball skill to the table. But more than that, they brought in hard tackling, no nonsense, never say die, and often ugly football

I would agree with this part for those in this list I have watchd, except for Brehme. I can hardly recall Brehme in a lot of hard tackles ... some of his wonderful free kicks, and moving up the wings are what I recall.




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that found more support in refugee quarters of Kolkata than even Germany.

The Mannschaft V2010 so far looks somewhat different. Klose and Podolski are old school and bring in utilitarianism from the previous generations — the young Turks on the other hand serve up something more — a joy in playing that — at least I have rarely seen in German sport!
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2010, 09:39:25 AM »
Klinsmann played the game with flair and also encouraged the team to play a more creative and free-flowing football, as a coach.
The German team of the early nineties....starring Klinsmann, Voeller, Mattheus, Hassler......and later Andre Moeller really started this new style of German football.
Michael Ballack, Klose, Bierhoff later tried to carry on with the new style( although, not too succesfully....they lost the 2002 final to Brazil).
Klinsmann's team in 2006 again demonstrated the new resolve and they were the crowd favorites inspite of their loss to Italy in the semis.
2010, seems to be a high-point of the new style of Germany. Let's hope they go all the way, this time.

Couldn't disagree more.

Rumenigge, Littbarski, Voeller, Klinnsmann, Matthaeus, Moeller, Hassler, Brehme — they all belong to the same school of football whose other side would be represented by Hrubesch, Breigel, Aguenthaler, Berthold, Buchwald, Sammer, Effenberg, Jeremies, Frings etc.

Some of them often brought a certain level of ball skill to the table. But more than that, they brought in hard tackling, no nonsense, never say die, and often ugly football

I would agree with this part for those in this list I have watchd, except for Brehme. I can hardly recall Brehme in a lot of hard tackles ... some of his wonderful free kicks, and moving up the wings are what I recall.




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that found more support in refugee quarters of Kolkata than even Germany.

The Mannschaft V2010 so far looks somewhat different. Klose and Podolski are old school and bring in utilitarianism from the previous generations — the young Turks on the other hand serve up something more — a joy in playing that — at least I have rarely seen in German sport!

Read carefully, Brehme is on the side of the gods!

BTW, forgot to mention, Klinsmann was a cheat sans-pareil... he really was a 'dive' bomber.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2010, 09:46:28 AM »
Klinsmann played the game with flair and also encouraged the team to play a more creative and free-flowing football, as a coach.
The German team of the early nineties....starring Klinsmann, Voeller, Mattheus, Hassler......and later Andre Moeller really started this new style of German football.
Michael Ballack, Klose, Bierhoff later tried to carry on with the new style( although, not too succesfully....they lost the 2002 final to Brazil).
Klinsmann's team in 2006 again demonstrated the new resolve and they were the crowd favorites inspite of their loss to Italy in the semis.
2010, seems to be a high-point of the new style of Germany. Let's hope they go all the way, this time.

Couldn't disagree more.

Rumenigge, Littbarski, Voeller, Klinnsmann, Matthaeus, Moeller, Hassler, Brehme — they all belong to the same school of football whose other side would be represented by Hrubesch, Breigel, Aguenthaler, Berthold, Buchwald, Sammer, Effenberg, Jeremies, Frings etc.

Some of them often brought a certain level of ball skill to the table. But more than that, they brought in hard tackling, no nonsense, never say die, and often ugly football

I would agree with this part for those in this list I have watchd, except for Brehme. I can hardly recall Brehme in a lot of hard tackles ... some of his wonderful free kicks, and moving up the wings are what I recall.




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that found more support in refugee quarters of Kolkata than even Germany.

The Mannschaft V2010 so far looks somewhat different. Klose and Podolski are old school and bring in utilitarianism from the previous generations — the young Turks on the other hand serve up something more — a joy in playing that — at least I have rarely seen in German sport!

Read carefully, Brehme is on the side of the gods!

BTW, forgot to mention, Klinsmann was a cheat sans-pareil... he really was a 'dive' bomber.

That way, every footballer worth his boots is a cheat.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 12:21:57 PM »
Nope. This was the reason Klinsmann had to make so many pronouncements about his turnaround when he joined Tottenham. And to give the devil his due, he did make a turnaround. But before that, he could have walked into a Hollywood studio — which he kind of did after retirement.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2010, 11:43:03 AM »
No doubt Germany have been the most consistent team from the past 3 world cups..but failure at the crucial knockout junctures mean that you need to review the system / coaching
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2010, 06:42:33 AM »
No doubt Germany have been the most consistent team from the past 3 world cups..but failure at the crucial knockout junctures mean that you need to review the system / coaching
Actually Germany have been one of the most consistent sides in the history of the game. actually in 2002 they did not really play well ... but aside from that they have played very effectively. Knockouts at crucial junctures are hard to avoid  ... because they are always between quality teams ...and on that day, either team has a chance of winning. This is why the maximum number of wins is still 5. And Germany are close by at 3rd place.
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Re: Klinsman on Lessons from Germany's preparation
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2010, 08:50:54 AM »
As Gary Lineker once said, after losing for the umpteenth time to the Krauts in a KO tournament -- football is a game of two sides of 11 players, but, in the end, Germany wins!
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