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Thought I would start a thread for everybody to contribute players with some great domestic records in one version of the game or the other, first-class or List A, or both.  Please list players that have either not played any international cricket or just a handful of games at best.  Furthermore, list their age, so we can tell whether the person is still a viable option for selection or not.  When listing the stats, please list all relevant info-- matches played, average, total wickets and/or runs taken, role of player, strike rate, etc.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2006, 04:47:48 AM »
MITHUN MANHAS (26 years old)-- List A record: 77 matches, 72 innings, 22 not outs, 2542 runs, highest of 125*, average of 50.84, 3 100s, 18 50s
Middle order batsman, usually 4 or 5
Part-time bowler (offspin): 623 balls, 488 runs, 13 wickets, best of 3/36, average of 37.53, economy rate of 4.69.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2006, 04:52:58 AM »
YASHPAL SINGH (24 years old): First-class record: 36 matches, 60 innings, 7 not outs, 2925 runs, high score of 240, average of 55.18, strike rate 54.11, 6 100s, 16 50s.
List A record: 26 matches, 24 innings, 2 not outs, high score 104, average 50.50, strike rate 85.19, 2 100s, 9 50s.
Middle order batsman, #3 or #4 usually.

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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2006, 04:53:26 AM »
S.Sharath ---Never been a huge fan of stats.  But folks checkout you will be surprised.  Outside of VVS Laxman in the last 6-7 years no one scored as much as this guy in domestics but yet no one knows about him.  I am sure he has turned old as well.


I pulled the following from CRICINFO.  I confess he is 33.  I told you never check too much into stats.  If this is  a candiditure for disqualification so be it.  But no Idea what he did wrong????

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/india/content/player/33941.html
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 04:56:33 AM »
SRIDHARAN SHARATH (33 years old): First-class record: 127 matches, 185 innings, 32 not outs, 8080 runs, highest of 224, average of 52.81, 26 100s, 38 50s
Middle order batsman

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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2006, 05:03:11 AM »
what about amol mazumdar??
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 05:14:11 AM »
AMOL MUZUMDAR (31 years old): 117 matches, 177 innings, 22 not outs, 8035 runs, highest 260, average 51.83, 20 100s, 46 50s
Middle order batsman, usually #4

Guys, please lookup and post the stats as well when you come up with a name.

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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2006, 05:23:22 AM »
Dave Hussey...Michael's younger brother. Cricinfo says that he is a lower middle order bat. Interestingly I have heard some Aussies claim that he is overrated.

First-class     67     100     11     4538     232*     50.98     6142     73.88     16     20     79     0
List A     75     71     13     2370     130     40.86               4     11     35     0
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2006, 07:35:30 AM »
Pankaj Dharmani seemed very promising for some time
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2006, 05:38:19 AM »
Dave Hussey...Michael's younger brother. Cricinfo says that he is a lower middle order bat. Interestingly I have heard some Aussies claim that he is overrated.

First-class     67     100     11     4538     232*     50.98     6142     73.88     16     20     79     0
List A     75     71     13     2370     130     40.86               4     11     35     0

I have heard this too. And apparently even senior suffered from this rep. And even heard on air that one of the reasons Hussey had to wait so long was the Aus bosses just did not believe in the stats in his case. Finally tho, he's proven them wrong. But goes on to show what levels of subjective judgement come into play in selection and how noone can get it right.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2006, 05:43:01 AM »
SRIDHARAN SHARATH (33 years old): First-class record: 127 matches, 185 innings, 32 not outs, 8080 runs, highest of 224, average of 52.81, 26 100s, 38 50s
Middle order batsman


I think he got a chance back in the day with the A team, but did not perform while the media glare was possibly on. I dont remember any details, but disctinctly remember that both him and S.Sriram who I used to follow quite a bit via domestic scorecards almost never scored to catch the eye when they had their little openings in the form of Board President XI or A team games...

And since our system's only method of picking players until now has been for the player to score at opportune moments -- as opposed to selectors scouting the player and reading his talent or just picking on a hunch -- I can easily see him not get a chance at the highest level.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2006, 09:30:49 PM »
cricinfo is being really slow so here are a few names that come to my mind:

2. Kanwaljeet Singh
Full name Kanwaljit Singh
Born April 15, 1958, Secunderabad, Andhra Pradesh
Current age 48 years 5 days
Major teams Hyderabad
Batting style Right-hand bat
Bowling style Right-arm offbreak

averages
class  mat  balls  runs  wkts  bbi  bbm  ave  econ  sr  4  5  10
First-class   111   25110   10422   369   8/86      28.24   2.49   68.04      21   4
List A   20   1026   671   24   4/29   4/29   27.95   3.92   42.75   1   0   0


2. Diwakar Vasu (cricinfo is being really slow!)

3. Pankaj Dharmani
4. K Ananthapadmanabhan (spelling?)
5. Jatin Paranjape

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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2006, 09:35:03 PM »
IMO Amol Muzumdar was the worst sufferer maybe becoz I have seen him bat and seen his quality as against the others whom I only see the numbers of.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2006, 10:59:36 PM »
YASHPAL SINGH (24 years old): First-class record: 36 matches, 60 innings, 7 not outs, 2925 runs, high score of 240, average of 55.18, strike rate 54.11, 6 100s, 16 50s.
List A record: 26 matches, 24 innings, 2 not outs, high score 104, average 50.50, strike rate 85.19, 2 100s, 9 50s.
Middle order batsman, #3 or #4 usually.


>>You will also have to see whether he played in Plate or regular devision of Ranji. The sides in plate devision are not good. So a player may have skewed stats because of playing against weaker sides.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2006, 01:08:17 AM »
ROHIT SHARMA for 2007 (2007!) world cup! Nah?
http://cricket.expressindia.com/fulliestory.php?content_id=2876
After two boys from Shardashram school batted their way into record books two decades ago and then the national team, Mumbai, which was once India’s batting nursery, hasn’t had much to celebrate.
As an 18-year-old from the suburb of Borivali, Rohit Sharma, packs his bags for Abu Dhabi—the only one from the city in the India ‘A’ team for the EuroAsia Cup—there are enough reasons to hope that he is the Next Big Mumbai Batsman.

At his Payyada Sports Club in Borivali, Sharma talks about how after a very successful under-19 World Cup trip to Colombo in February, he graduated to the big league and is now flooded with endorsement offers running into lakhs. Then, with a smile, he adds: ‘‘Imagine, some six years ago, I was sitting right here wondering where I’d get the Rs 800 I needed to join this camp.’’   <<be careful kid - dont get distracted>>

Today, things are different. Rohit tells how his under-19 coach Venkatesh Prasad told him: ‘‘Rahul Dravid was asking about you.’’ Prasad himself has been a big Rohit supporter. At the end of the World Cup, when asked about the future stars, the first name that came to his mind was Rohit’s.

Though with 201 runs from five games were not the highest in the tournament, Prasad said, ‘‘His overall approach, simple technique and temperament make him a player of the big league.’’

In the press box at Colombo, ICC manager for media and communication Brian Murtagroyd, a veteran journalist and the one man who followed every ball of the tournament, said: ‘‘There are quite a few promising players in the Indian team but Rohit with his solid play and classic style stands apart.’’

Within days of returning from Colombo, Rohit appeared for the big test. On the strength of his World Cup show, he was included in the West Zone side for the Deodhar Trophy. He scored 143 not out against a strong North Zone attack at Udaipur. National selector Bhupinder Singh was impressed. ‘‘It’s a matter of time before he makes it to the Indian team,’’ he said. A national selector, on condition of anonymity, says: ‘‘He can even make it to the World Cup next year.’’   <<be careful kid - dont get distracted>>

Rohit’s coach Sanjay Gaitonde says he is a natural. ‘‘Lord Bramha has blessed him with this skill. He was never a regular at the nets nor I have spent countless hours on him teaching the basics,’’ says the coach. <<Go to the NETS regularly, kid...dont be "never regular" at nets>>

‘‘I watch cricketers on the television very closely. After that I just ask some neighbourhood kids to throw the ball at me and just try to get my touch. I’m not the sort to run 25 rounds or sweat too much without a cricket bat in hand,’’ says Rohit. <<Fitness important kid!!! without "the bat">>

When he failed in Class IX, the uncles with whom he stays in Borivali—his parents live in another suburb, Dombivli—threatened to send him back. The pressure made him work hard—on cricket—and the runs started pouring in. His brilliant junior record saw him walk into the senior Rest of India squad for the Irani Trophy as a 16-year-old.

‘‘When I got selected to the India under-17 team, there was a function at my building and I was given a cheque of Rs 51,000,’’ he says. So what next? ‘‘I don’t think about selections and big breaks but the guys in my building have promised to hold a bigger function in case I make it to the Indian team.’’
<<FORGET the function, and focus only on CRICKET!!!>>
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2006, 02:10:01 AM »
OMG FINELEG. you are doing everything possible to ruin the article!!!
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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2006, 02:15:04 AM »
FLASH NEWS :

Indian team management is planning to employ FINELEG as their new sports psycologist. Think about the mood of the team. It will always remain upbeat  :D ;D :D ;D
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2006, 02:28:26 AM »
Fineleg, I remember this chap from the WC. He was pretty good, quite a classical compact type player. And fields well. A lot better than Utthappa. And he's quite fit too. So I dont know if his yapping about not sweating too much and stuff is only his hyping his coolness/studpanti.....

It'll be good if he graduates to the seniors.. his fielding has me exicted  ;D
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2006, 03:18:23 PM »
Fineleg any guy who scores a 143 against North Zone gotta be given some look. I am not gonna pick him for next WC but will keep an eye on him. I wouldnt pick him for WC because i dont like kids getting a look in without even completing one season. Its not that we are bangladesh with no telent in current site.
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Re: Cricketers with great domestic records yet to get a real opportunity
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2006, 04:09:52 PM »
IMO Amol Muzumdar was the worst sufferer maybe becoz I have seen him bat and seen his quality as against the others whom I only see the numbers of.

I agree 100% I have also seen him play he was really good and should have been selected, I think he also did very well against Windies or some such side on a tour game when they were here.
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2006, 10:00:56 PM »
He came onto the scene at about the same time as Dravid and believe me when I saw them bat I thot their styles looked very very very very very very similar. He is a real classy bat much like Dravid.
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