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he is doing a good job....but he is capable of better

that 88 was too good, I thought....................I hope, he does better.
Yesterday Gayle almost frustrated him ( and later made up for that with a blinder).
Unfortunately, the bowlers and some complacency let them down.

Very nice ..when the bowlers did very well to restrict DC in the opening match, SG's captaincy was great and got the credit. When the bowlers did not do well, SG was unfortunate.

CP ..there, is another Blweism for you. I had noted some gems on individual threads ...ab woh sab dhoondna padega

so what?
this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did............and he isn't getting any credit for his captaincy atleast during the fielding, becoz he couldn't create the break-thru. That happens sometimes....you win some and you lose some.................even the great captain Steve Waugh had to lose a whole lot of matches, but that doesn't make him a lesser captain. Sometimes, the opposition can bat very well ( just as Kings XI did the other day)....sometimes the tosscan become a factor

That is the contradiction (or maybe I shoud say Blweism or Blweology) I am pointing out.

When the team wins, SG gets credit for the good performance by batsmen, bowlers, fielders, team selection etc etc.

When the team loses, SG gets credit for whatever is good and the rest is out of his control and, in fact, makes him unfortunate - poor bowlers, team selection, toss loss etc.

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he is doing a good job....but he is capable of better

that 88 was too good, I thought....................I hope, he does better.
Yesterday Gayle almost frustrated him ( and later made up for that with a blinder).
Unfortunately, the bowlers and some complacency let them down.

Very nice ..when the bowlers did very well to restrict DC in the opening match, SG's captaincy was great and got the credit. When the bowlers did not do well, SG was unfortunate.

CP ..there, is another Blweism for you. I had noted some gems on individual threads ...ab woh sab dhoondna padega

so what?
this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did............and he isn't getting any credit for his captaincy atleast during the fielding, becoz he couldn't create the break-thru. That happens sometimes....you win some and you lose some.................even the great captain Steve Waugh had to lose a whole lot of matches, but that doesn't make him a lesser captain. Sometimes, the opposition can bat very well ( just as Kings XI did the other day)....sometimes the tosscan become a factor

That is the contradiction (or maybe I shoud say Blweism or Blweology) I am pointing out.

When the team wins, SG gets credit for the good performance by batsmen, bowlers, fielders, team selection etc etc.

When the team loses, SG gets credit for whatever is good and the rest is out of his control and, in fact, makes him unfortunate - poor bowlers, team selection, toss loss etc.

You are missing the point. It is not about SG alone ( may be for you, but not for me). If the team wins everyone gets the credit, not only SG.........................and if the team loses, then the blame goes to all, although individually, I hate to castigate players.......I personally would always like to highlight their contributions. For example, although Murali Karthick is being castigated in some quarters from dropping a few vital catches, we still cannot forget his contributions in bowling tight, which has made the difference on many occasions.

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LOL

CP, the gems keep coming. What would poor Gayle have done without SG?

this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did

Again LOL !!
must be heavy into chatting!

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LOL

CP, the gems keep coming. What would poor Gayle have done without SG?

this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did

Again LOL !!
must be heavy into chatting!

LOL. Kic & CP are inseperably loling at all times now. At least CP dislikes matchfixers. LOL.

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LOL

CP, the gems keep coming. What would poor Gayle have done without SG?

this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did

Again LOL !!
must be heavy into chatting!

cant help it ...its the blweisms

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CP

One suggestion - these cannot be scattered all over the thread ...they get lost. You need to collate them in the opening post - something on the lines of the Movie Reviews thread.

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CP

One suggestion - these cannot be scattered all over the thread ...they get lost. You need to collate them in the opening post - something on the lines of the Movie Reviews thread.

I 'll give you a better idea...try this one as a reference:
http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,419.0.html

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LOL

CP, the gems keep coming. What would poor Gayle have done without SG?

this time he is getting the credit for his batting...for inspiring Gayle to bat like he did

yup. poor guy may have increased his SR without SG's advise.

thoda to sharam karo blwe ....

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CP

One suggestion - these cannot be scattered all over the thread ...they get lost. You need to collate them in the opening post - something on the lines of the Movie Reviews thread.

will do

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

That is not what he has said. He said that his form has been bad because of injuries - fair point. But he has denied that he wanted to get out of KXIP. The BCCI has also denied anything of that sort.

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

Yes, there would be exit clauses, but I am sure it would not include things like "disappointed because I am not captain and hence want to join another franchise". It is the club's prerogative whether they want to keep him or sell him to another franchise during the transfer window, since they have him on contract. Else you will have all and sundry shopping around after every good season.

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

That is not what he has said. He said that his form has been bad because of injuries - fair point. But he has denied that he wanted to get out of KXIP. The BCCI has also denied anything of that sort.

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

Yes, there would be exit clauses, but I am sure it would not include things like "disappointed because I am not captain and hence want to join another franchise". It is the club's prerogative whether they want to keep him or sell him to another franchise during the transfer window, since they have him on contract. Else you will have all and sundry shopping around after every good season.

KIC--
I said "what's he going to say"? Of course he's going to deny it.

As to your second point, don't all contracts allow players to get out if they pay a certain amount or the other team pays that amount?

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

That is not what he has said. He said that his form has been bad because of injuries - fair point. But he has denied that he wanted to get out of KXIP. The BCCI has also denied anything of that sort.

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

Yes, there would be exit clauses, but I am sure it would not include things like "disappointed because I am not captain and hence want to join another franchise". It is the club's prerogative whether they want to keep him or sell him to another franchise during the transfer window, since they have him on contract. Else you will have all and sundry shopping around after every good season.

KIC--
I said "what's he going to say"? Of course he's going to deny it.

As to your second point, don't all contracts allow players to get out if they pay a certain amount or the other team pays that amount?

My point is why believe the reports (based on some unnamed sources) and not the one who is saying what he has to say on record?

There is no hard and fast rule. A contract may also provide that a player can get out but not join any other competitor for the period that the contract would have run.

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

That is not what he has said. He said that his form has been bad because of injuries - fair point. But he has denied that he wanted to get out of KXIP. The BCCI has also denied anything of that sort.

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

Yes, there would be exit clauses, but I am sure it would not include things like "disappointed because I am not captain and hence want to join another franchise". It is the club's prerogative whether they want to keep him or sell him to another franchise during the transfer window, since they have him on contract. Else you will have all and sundry shopping around after every good season.

KIC--
I said "what's he going to say"? Of course he's going to deny it.

As to your second point, don't all contracts allow players to get out if they pay a certain amount or the other team pays that amount?

My point is why believe the reports (based on some unnamed sources) and not the one who is saying what he has to say on record?

There is no hard and fast rule. A contract may also provide that a player can get out but not join any other competitor for the period that the contract would have run.

KIC, it might be true that he was barred from switching, it might not also. There's very little he can say other than deny the whole thing. Also, he's mostly denying under-performing.

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Quote from: Blwe_torch on Today at 01:10:10 PM

Agarkar is not a good bowler when you are defending a small total....he is a big total bowler, unfortunately.
 

This is a Blwe-ism 

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Quote from: Blwe_torch on Today at 01:10:10 PM

Agarkar is not a good bowler when you are defending a small total....he is a big total bowler, unfortunately.
 

This is a Blwe-ism

Yeah...I don't see myself, too much off mark there, even as an after-thought........................what I meant is, if the team has a decent total to defend, Agarkar does well as a bowler......unlike today, when the total looked paltry.....................the same thing can be said abt Ishaant too.

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Quote from: Blwe_torch on Today at 01:10:10 PM

Agarkar is not a good bowler when you are defending a small total....he is a big total bowler, unfortunately.
 

This is a Blwe-ism

Yeah...I don't see myself, too much off mark there, even as an after-thought........................what I meant is, if the team has a decent total to defend, Agarkar does well as a bowler......unlike today, when the total looked paltry.....................the same thing can be said abt Ishaant too.

a decent total as in one that Ganguly failed to get them?

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Quote from: Blwe_torch on Today at 01:10:10 PM

Agarkar is not a good bowler when you are defending a small total....he is a big total bowler, unfortunately.
 

This is a Blwe-ism

Yeah...I don't see myself, too much off mark there, even as an after-thought........................what I meant is, if the team has a decent total to defend, Agarkar does well as a bowler......unlike today, when the total looked paltry.....................the same thing can be said abt Ishaant too.

a decent total as in one that Ganguly failed to get them?

but Ganguly doesn't represent KKR alone.................there are other professionals too.........who need to step up the gas and take responsibilty.....just as Uthappa did for BRC today.

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look he is supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL cricketer. He did not want to play and had to? he could have sat out thanks to his injury right? I am not saying he is underperforming on purpose. far from it. i think he is fat and has an attitude problem.
SG last year may not have set the scorecard on fire but he was atleast trying. i think it was a lot harder for him compared to YS. if he can be fit POST retiring why cant fatboy?

Are you actually following the news stories? He was supposed to play for MI until Punjab refused to let him go. THey even got BCCI/Modi involved to force him. Professional or whatever, he's human. He's not going to be motivated to wake up everyday.

So what do you say now that he has categorically denied that and even gone on to slam the media big time for printing nonsense?

PS: It is within KXIP's rights to refuse a transfer ...after all, Yuvi is contracted with them.

Not sure why denials are important? What's he going to say now--I under-performed?

That is not what he has said. He said that his form has been bad because of injuries - fair point. But he has denied that he wanted to get out of KXIP. The BCCI has also denied anything of that sort.

It is a free market, if he doesn't perform, let him be axed. If he wants out, I'm sure there's an exit clause.

Yes, there would be exit clauses, but I am sure it would not include things like "disappointed because I am not captain and hence want to join another franchise". It is the club's prerogative whether they want to keep him or sell him to another franchise during the transfer window, since they have him on contract. Else you will have all and sundry shopping around after every good season.

KIC--
I said "what's he going to say"? Of course he's going to deny it.

As to your second point, don't all contracts allow players to get out if they pay a certain amount or the other team pays that amount?

My point is why believe the reports (based on some unnamed sources) and not the one who is saying what he has to say on record?

There is no hard and fast rule. A contract may also provide that a player can get out but not join any other competitor for the period that the contract would have run.

KIC, it might be true that he was barred from switching, it might not also. There's very little he can say other than deny the whole thing. Also, he's mostly denying under-performing.

saw another article...looks like yuvraj will leave kings next year!

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

[Blwe_torch]

Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

[Blwe_torch]

Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

Yes. RD came at one drop on the 3rd over....lasted till the 9th( 6 overs in all)  whereas SG was opening and batted till the 12th..........with the responsibility of holding the innings together......................but Dravid was neither here nor there.

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

Yes. RD came at one drop on the 3rd over....lasted till the 9th( 6 overs in all)  whereas SG was opening and batted till the 12th..........with the responsibility of holding the innings together......................but Dravid was neither here nor there.

Nice.

So SG bats longer at a lower SR and has done a better job? Maybe you are talking from the point of view of the opposition.

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Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

Yes. RD came at one drop on the 3rd over....lasted till the 9th( 6 overs in all)  whereas SG was opening and batted till the 12th..........with the responsibility of holding the innings together......................but Dravid was neither here nor there.

Nice.

So SG bats longer at a lower SR and has done a better job? Maybe you are talking from the point of view of the opposition.

It's a team game after all. KKR finished with a lower R/R( than the one with which Ganguly left them with ( 8.58)............which proves, that the players following him were at fault, as they had full 9 overs to improve upon the RR.
Whereas, BRC finished with much higher run-rate( 9.2) than what Dravid left them with....proving that the later players made up for the handicap that Dravid left them with........

[keep-it-cool]

Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

Yes. RD came at one drop on the 3rd over....lasted till the 9th( 6 overs in all)  whereas SG was opening and batted till the 12th..........with the responsibility of holding the innings together......................but Dravid was neither here nor there.

Nice.

So SG bats longer at a lower SR and has done a better job? Maybe you are talking from the point of view of the opposition.

It's a team game after all. KKR finished with a lower R/R( than the one with which Ganguly left them with ( 8.58)............which proves, that the players following him were at fault, as they had full 9 overs to improve upon the RR.
Whereas, BRC finished with much higher run-rate( 9.2) than what Dravid left them with....proving that the later players made up for the handicap that Dravid left them with........

So you mean SG is a parasite, hoping to live off his team-mates exploits? Lage raho ...

[Blwe_torch]

Blwe-ism Alert

CP ..please update on first post, if you feel this qualifies

During the RCB v/s DC match

R Dravid c Sharma b Ojha 26 (25b 2x4 1x6) SR: 104.00

All bluster and very little to offer...

And then, this after the KKR v/s RCB match, when SG scored 33 at a princely SR of 103

ganguly is not the culprit here.........as long as he was there the KKR were looking at an advantage....and that was thanks to both Gayle and Ganguly. With 2 hitters like Gayle and McCullum...it is better that we have a man who can hold on the innings a bit...which Ganguly can do well....there is nothing very wrong there

the match situations were different.................KKR was setting up the total.....and RCB were actually chasing and needed a higher run rate at the time RD came in to bat at one down along with Kallis.

Are you sure RCB was chasing a target? Take your time, take a deep breath, consult a few websites and make up your mind.

My bad...they too were chasing.
But there is a difference............when Dravid was out the innings R/R was 6.77  at the end of the 9th over( his personal score was 26 in 25 balls at 104 S/R)

.............. and when Ganguly was out, the innings R/R was 8.58 at the end of the 12th over( his personal score of 33 in 32 balls at 103 S/R).

You draw your own inference.

So? How does that make the two innings dissimilar? The difference was created entirely by the batsman at the other end. Finally, RCB reached 180 odd in 20 overs and KKR reached 160 odd.

Both were playing the same role - but for you, one was bluster with nothing much to show and the other was responsible for the good position that KKR found themselves in.

Yes. RD came at one drop on the 3rd over....lasted till the 9th( 6 overs in all)  whereas SG was opening and batted till the 12th..........with the responsibility of holding the innings together......................but Dravid was neither here nor there.

Nice.

So SG bats longer at a lower SR and has done a better job? Maybe you are talking from the point of view of the opposition.

It's a team game after all. KKR finished with a lower R/R( than the one with which Ganguly left them with ( 8.58)............which proves, that the players following him were at fault, as they had full 9 overs to improve upon the RR.
Whereas, BRC finished with much higher run-rate( 9.2) than what Dravid left them with....proving that the later players made up for the handicap that Dravid left them with........

So you mean SG is a parasite, hoping to live off his team-mates exploits? Lage raho ...

Is it SG or is it Dravid, in this case?!

[ramshorns]

Blwe:SG S/R 114 and in the limited chances RD got his S/R is 131.  So I do not understand what this holding the innings together means unless if you cannot do a Kallis or a Tendulkar where you make it up later on which SG barring one or two games did not in a 11 game stretch.

[keep-it-cool]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

[Cover Point]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

updated the thread with this one. This maybe the most stark Blweism of them all

[Blwe_torch]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

[Cover Point]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

its always different with ganguly.

[dextrous]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

its always different with ganguly.

It has class.

[Cover Point]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

its always different with ganguly.

It has class.

class ... like how to sell out your poor defenseless young team mates. Great class by the politician. Poor guys cant even get a dinner with Pawar in their defense!

[dextrous]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

its always different with ganguly.

It has class.

class ... like how to sell out your poor defenseless young team mates. Great class by the politician. Poor guys cant even get a dinner with Pawar in their defense!

agarkar is quite old and a distant relative of pawar's

[Cover Point]

Forget that. That is a point of view ....one that some do not agree with ....but a view all the same.

The stark difference in the way how similar innings are viewed is what sets this apart and makes it a Blweism !

It is not a similar innings

its always different with ganguly.

It has class.

class ... like how to sell out your poor defenseless young team mates. Great class by the politician. Poor guys cant even get a dinner with Pawar in their defense!

agarkar is quite old and a distant relative of pawar's

poor tiwari ... was so much better off in Delhi. Ganguly se panga liya ... even if he is in the same team as him