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Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue for its anti India tendencies and for its poor ground management.

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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2009, 04:18:56 AM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

Kiun be, abhi tak khujli nahin gaya tera? Eden acceptable nahin hain toh keya Rohtak pe naya stadium banana parega?
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2009, 04:30:22 AM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

Kiun be, abhi tak khujli nahin gaya tera? Eden acceptable nahin hain toh keya Rohtak pe naya stadium banana parega?

khujli ki bimari tum jaise gangulian commies ko hoti hai. Zara socialism aur communism mein tum farak bhool kar nahan bhi chhod dete ho!
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« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2009, 04:36:39 AM »
Socialism aur communism-me koi farak hai kya? Both talk of equality and both recognize that some of us are, in fact, more equal than others. For example, any Gangulian is naturally and inevitably a little more equal than a non-Gangulian.

Waise bhi, flood light ka baat chhod. Pahle Delhi mein pitch banana sikh le. Cricinfo reports that Sunil Gavaskar, during his pitch report, said the surface looks like "a hair transplant".
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2009, 04:42:18 AM »
Socialism aur communism-me koi farak hai kya? Both talk of equality and both recognize that some of us are, in fact, more equal than others. For example, any Gangulian is naturally and inevitably a little more equal than a non-Gangulian.

Waise bhi, flood light ka baat chhod. Pahle Delhi mein pitch banana sikh le. Cricinfo reports that Sunil Gavaskar, during his pitch report, said the surface looks like "a hair transplant".

i understand that saare dilli waale tum gangulians ke baap hain .... lekin woh pitch mere baap ne nahin banayi.

but yes .... you gangulians will have a problem with such a pitch. its helping the bowlers a bit and ganguly cant handle anything but the most patta of all pitches. But you should know. Cricket is a contrst of bat and ball ... and some of us like surfaces where there is more of an even contest. Incompetents like ganguly may fail on such surfaces but thats a chance we are ok with.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2009, 04:51:52 AM »
Socialism aur communism-me koi farak hai kya? Both talk of equality and both recognize that some of us are, in fact, more equal than others. For example, any Gangulian is naturally and inevitably a little more equal than a non-Gangulian.

Waise bhi, flood light ka baat chhod. Pahle Delhi mein pitch banana sikh le. Cricinfo reports that Sunil Gavaskar, during his pitch report, said the surface looks like "a hair transplant".

i understand that saare dilli waale tum gangulians ke baap hain .... lekin woh pitch mere baap ne nahin banayi.

but yes .... you gangulians will have a problem with such a pitch. its helping the bowlers a bit and ganguly cant handle anything but the most patta of all pitches. But you should know. Cricket is a contrst of bat and ball ... and some of us like surfaces where there is more of an even contest. Incompetents like ganguly may fail on such surfaces but thats a chance we are ok with.

Saare Delhi wale Gangulians ke baap hai aur Ganguly saare dilli-waale ke dada-ji. Saale, meri shahar ka mahilayen itni bhrasht hota  toh bahar kabhi moo nahin kholta main. Par chhod ye saab baat. There is an old proverb that says the man with one ear cut off for thievery walks outside the village. But the man with both ears cut off walks in the middle of the village.

Aur pitch ka baare me kuch likhne ka pahle,ek chhez yaad rakhna: The pitch is supposed to make an even contest between bat and ball in a game of cricket, not an equal contest between 2 kabaddi teams - apni aukat kabaddi-se thoda uncha kar!


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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #45 on: December 27, 2009, 04:55:40 AM »
PM kiya maine tereko. dekha?
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #46 on: December 27, 2009, 05:07:06 AM »
PM kiya maine tereko. dekha?

sorry just saw it. i try not to look at PM's. Most of the time they are from Pitamah admonishing my deeds :)
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2009, 05:18:28 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.







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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2009, 05:22:44 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.

oh i see ....
not using my terminology? What happened with the naked soul and naked feet analogy?

taking the high road after getting beaten huh?

as Amitabh said in Sholay ... saala gangulian ... ghadi dhadi drama karta hai :)
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2009, 06:04:03 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric,

LOL...thanks for that. The urbane wit that has all but disappeared from the DG.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #50 on: December 27, 2009, 06:10:24 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.

oh i see ....
not using my terminology? What happened with the naked soul and naked feet analogy?

taking the high road after getting beaten huh?

as Amitabh said in Sholay ... saala gangulian ... ghadi dhadi drama karta hai :)

Arre drama to Dharmendra kar raha tha....

aap to jagdeep ke nautanki pe uttar aaye!

.......bephajool jooth bolte ho....
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #51 on: December 27, 2009, 06:12:06 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.

oh i see ....
not using my terminology? What happened with the naked soul and naked feet analogy?

taking the high road after getting beaten huh?

as Amitabh said in Sholay ... saala gangulian ... ghadi dhadi drama karta hai :)

Arre drama to Dharmendra kar raha tha....

aap to jagdeep ke nautanki pe uttar aaye!

.......bephajool jooth bolte ho....

Dharmendra bhi shayad retire ho gaya...maybe CP will follow suit
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2009, 06:42:12 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.

oh i see ....
not using my terminology? What happened with the naked soul and naked feet analogy?

taking the high road after getting beaten huh?

as Amitabh said in Sholay ... saala gangulian ... ghadi dhadi drama karta hai :)

Arre drama to Dharmendra kar raha tha....

aap to jagdeep ke nautanki pe uttar aaye!

.......bephajool jooth bolte ho....

Dharmendra bhi shayad retire ho gaya...maybe CP will follow suit

you wish ... a girl (like you) can dream.

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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2009, 06:45:30 AM »
CP

I acknowledge all your points....
and I also realise that they are no better than your rhetoric, that you have continued to employ as ammunition, against all and sundry. I persist in not using your terminology.

what we are discussing does not matter, hence my total exclusion of your post - i did read it.

oh i see ....
not using my terminology? What happened with the naked soul and naked feet analogy?

taking the high road after getting beaten huh?

as Amitabh said in Sholay ... saala gangulian ... ghadi dhadi drama karta hai :)

Arre drama to Dharmendra kar raha tha....

aap to jagdeep ke nautanki pe uttar aaye!

.......bephajool jooth bolte ho....

Dharmendra bhi shayad retire ho gaya...maybe CP will follow suit

you wish ... a girl (like you) can dream.

When you run out of gas, try something else. You are being obnoxious here.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #54 on: December 27, 2009, 08:33:50 AM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.
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« Reply #55 on: December 27, 2009, 08:58:04 AM »
The point is unclear:
1) Tickets to be provided to life members was a policy that was used. And if this is the cause of the lack of funds, then
the wisdom of that policy could be questioned. The method you describe was used to make Eden one of the foremost stadia in
the world, and perhaps the same policy means a lull for a while. So, if someone ought be blamed for this mess (and it is not necessary ... Eden has enjoyed a prominence for long, and this policy could create a passionate fan base ... all good things), it is the policy makers of that time.

The policy has made Eden the most passionate stadium for cricket in the country. There is nothing like a packed Eden, it is something else. So there is no question of blame. Yes the floodlight thing is embarrassing, and the CAB said they will make their own generators and not depend on CESC anymore - the matter should end there. There will always be a lack of funds to a state board (see it in the backdrop of the 25 crore renovation project). The main source of funds for Indian cricket is through TV rights, and the key to that is held by the BCCI.

Look at the BCCI's policy wrt to Wankhede. They are paying 50 crore to MCA for WC renovation (despite Wankhede being half the size of Eden) and on top of that they paid another 23 crore for a vague "cricket development". Why the differential treatment? The "Western Union" moniker is not without reason!


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2) From the figures posted by Cernunnos, it is totally unclear that this is the reason. For he seems to suggest that Eden still sells more tickets (as percentage) than the rest. So, it does not make sense that the life member -free ticket stuff is the reason for all this. But CP's numbers and Cernu's numbers are vastly different ;D

I didn't suggest that, the percentage is similar, but the volume is different, so that is why people in Kolkata don't feel the pinch as much.

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3) I honestly don't see the point of having tests in venues where people never show up. ODI/T20s in such places are fine since people throng the grounds anyway. Similarly, in the recent past, Chennai has had tests at times when they should not (just about everyone agreed that those times were best for rains).  It would make sense to rotate tests among venues where there is viewership rather than send them to far flung places. This could help stadia like Eden if there are financial problems.

It is also a matter of tradition, on which test cricket is rooted. Without that sense of occasion, the mystique is missing. A batting legend like Lara has said that he rues not having played a test at the Eden. He would never have said the same about Ahmedabad or Rohtak.


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4)While sabotage may be a conspiracy theory (maybe I can suggest an even more probable conspiracy theory ... given the infighting in CAB, someone from the other camp was responsible for a sabotage?) there is no denying that there was politics going on between the BCCI and CAB. Whether that really led to clear cut victimization in terms of funds is a separate question. In order to make that allegation, one needs to supply more details.

Witholding of funds which were rightfully due to CAB not proof? The BCCI also did this in 2006 and immediately released when Dalmiya was ousted. Isn't that enough proof? What about the different funding for Wankhede?

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5. I don't agree with KIC that each association should get the same amount of money either (although this statement may simply be because I am misunderstanding the situation). Yes, a larger stadium should imply larger earnings. But money spent by the board to maintain facilities should also be larger for larger stadia.

Agree with you, it is a silly notion. Especially in IPL when board hands are tied due to
max. tickets going to the franchisees. Red Chillies made 20 crore from ticket sales at the Eden (much more than anywhere else). Yet Eden got the same maintenance fee of 3.5 crore that Sawai Man Singh stadium got, with 1/3 the size of Eden. Again, these arbitrary rules were made to cut Eden to size, after having got rid of Dalmiya through false cases and installed a puppet regime.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #56 on: December 27, 2009, 12:50:11 PM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.

I was reacting to his last post to Dex. Please note.
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« Reply #57 on: December 27, 2009, 06:15:22 PM »
CP's worst nightmare has come true.   What an irony here.   On the immediate days following the Eden goof up which in itself is unaccepatable by international standards Delhi came up with a bummer to put that on the back burner.  What has happended here is a million to one shot or even odds of getting stuck by lightening excepting it was Delhi that was hosting the match.

In all seriousness for a country that has the highest audience, revenue in cricket the recent events brought to fore some startling facts.  The BCCI and all its associates as they are presently constituted are incapable of quality - there could be an exception or two.  In games across stadia on top of game organising capabilities like quality of pitches, spotless lighting infracstructure for day night games the other aspects like amenities for the spectators is abysmal.   No proper bathrooms, drinking water, keeping the stands clean, improper seating, no decent concessions, inadequate parking and worse the security concerns - just protecting players is not enough.

Contrast this to Australia or SA.   Remember what a fabulous job SA did agreeing to host the IPL at such a short notice and making it a grand success.   I am not comparing here but when we have the richest board by far with the highest earning players should the paying public not demand reasonable things that made the board and its players the richest in the first place.

 
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« Reply #58 on: December 27, 2009, 06:45:37 PM »
CP's worst nightmare has come true.   What an irony here.   On the immediate days following the Eden goof up which in itself is unaccepatable by international standards Delhi came up with a bummer to put that on the back burner.  What has happended here is a million to one shot or even odds of getting stuck by lightening excepting it was Delhi that was hosting the match.

In all seriousness for a country that has the highest audience, revenue in cricket the recent events brought to fore some startling facts.  The BCCI and all its associates as they are presently constituted are incapable of quality - there could be an exception or two.  In games across stadia on top of game organising capabilities like quality of pitches, spotless lighting infracstructure for day night games the other aspects like amenities for the spectators is abysmal.   No proper bathrooms, drinking water, keeping the stands clean, improper seating, no decent concessions, inadequate parking and worse the security concerns - just protecting players is not enough.

Contrast this to Australia or SA.   Remember what a fabulous job SA did agreeing to host the IPL at such a short notice and making it a grand success.   I am not comparing here but when we have the richest board by far with the highest earning players should the paying public not demand reasonable things that made the board and its players the richest in the first place.

why is it a nightmare for me? I have nothing to do with DDCA. Unlike the gangulians who take anything said about their stadium or state or their only international player personally, i dont care about DDCA. They are probably more corrupt than anyone else. what do you expect when you have a politician like jaitley supposedly in charge.

i saw the corruption first hand in november where the president of the association did nothing other than give out free tickets to his cronies while people like chauhan do all the work.
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« Reply #59 on: December 27, 2009, 07:29:08 PM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.

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« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2009, 08:17:12 PM »
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2009, 08:26:27 PM »
The point is unclear:
1) Tickets to be provided to life members was a policy that was used. And if this is the cause of the lack of funds, then
the wisdom of that policy could be questioned. The method you describe was used to make Eden one of the foremost stadia in
the world, and perhaps the same policy means a lull for a while. So, if someone ought be blamed for this mess (and it is not necessary ... Eden has enjoyed a prominence for long, and this policy could create a passionate fan base ... all good things), it is the policy makers of that time.

The policy has made Eden the most passionate stadium for cricket in the country. There is nothing like a packed Eden, it is something else. So there is no question of blame.
This is why I did not say that the policy needs to be blamed. Because it did give major benefits. And if this is the real problem, then it will change with time. It has given Eden some prominence.

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Yes the floodlight thing is embarrassing, and the CAB said they will make their own generators and not depend on CESC anymore - the matter should end there. There will always be a lack of funds to a state board (see it in the backdrop of the 25 crore renovation project). The main source of funds for Indian cricket is through TV rights, and the key to that is held by the BCCI.

Look at the BCCI's policy wrt to Wankhede. They are paying 50 crore to MCA for WC renovation (despite Wankhede being half the size of Eden) and on top of that they paid another 23 crore for a vague "cricket development". Why the differential treatment? The "Western Union" moniker is not without reason!
From an administrative point of view ... flood lights (twice) and pitches like the semi-final pitch are embarrassing.

This was the point I was making in #4. If one makes allegations of financial victimization, it should be accompanied by instances of different treatment ... the 50 and 23 crore numbers are concrete numbers to have a discussion with.

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2) From the figures posted by Cernunnos, it is totally unclear that this is the reason. For he seems to suggest that Eden still sells more tickets (as percentage) than the rest. So, it does not make sense that the life member -free ticket stuff is the reason for all this. But CP's numbers and Cernu's numbers are vastly different ;D

I didn't suggest that, the percentage is similar, but the volume is different, so that is why people in Kolkata don't feel the pinch as much.
But don't you think that the percentages being similar means similar fractions of the funds required to maintain the stadia is
recovered? granted that this leaves an unpaid balance for a larger stadium. But this is different from CP's assertion that no tickets were sold (joke presumed ... that is what I commented on)

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3) I honestly don't see the point of having tests in venues where people never show up. ODI/T20s in such places are fine since people throng the grounds anyway. Similarly, in the recent past, Chennai has had tests at times when they should not (just about everyone agreed that those times were best for rains).  It would make sense to rotate tests among venues where there is viewership rather than send them to far flung places. This could help stadia like Eden if there are financial problems.

It is also a matter of tradition, on which test cricket is rooted. Without that sense of occasion, the mystique is missing. A batting legend like Lara has said that he rues not having played a test at the Eden. He would never have said the same about Ahmedabad or Rohtak.


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4)While sabotage may be a conspiracy theory (maybe I can suggest an even more probable conspiracy theory ... given the infighting in CAB, someone from the other camp was responsible for a sabotage?) there is no denying that there was politics going on between the BCCI and CAB. Whether that really led to clear cut victimization in terms of funds is a separate question. In order to make that allegation, one needs to supply more details.

Witholding of funds which were rightfully due to CAB not proof? The BCCI also did this in 2006 and immediately released when Dalmiya was ousted. Isn't that enough proof? What about the different funding for Wankhede?

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5. I don't agree with KIC that each association should get the same amount of money either (although this statement may simply be because I am misunderstanding the situation). Yes, a larger stadium should imply larger earnings. But money spent by the board to maintain facilities should also be larger for larger stadia.

Agree with you, it is a silly notion. Especially in IPL when board hands are tied due to
max. tickets going to the franchisees. Red Chillies made 20 crore from ticket sales at the Eden (much more than anywhere else). Yet Eden got the same maintenance fee of 3.5 crore that Sawai Man Singh stadium got, with 1/3 the size of Eden. Again, these arbitrary rules were made to cut Eden to size, after having got rid of Dalmiya through false cases and installed a puppet regime.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2009, 08:58:12 PM »
This is why I did not say that the policy needs to be blamed. Because it did give major benefits. And if this is the real problem, then it will change with time. It has given Eden some prominence.

It is also funny that some would think that membership fees would be frozen in time. Do you think it's possible? I know of some clubs in Kolkata which has a very high lifetime membership - and it changes every year. Moreover there is annual membership - how can that be a fixed amount?


From an administrative point of view ... flood lights (twice) and pitches like the semi-final pitch are embarrassing.

This was the point I was making in #4. If one makes allegations of financial victimization, it should be accompanied by instances of different treatment ... the 50 and 23 crore numbers are concrete numbers to have a discussion with.


Yes, it is worthy of discussion:
http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2008/aug/31bcci.htm

But don't you think that the percentages being similar means similar fractions of the funds required to maintain the stadia is
recovered? granted that this leaves an unpaid balance for a larger stadium. But this is different from CP's assertion that no tickets were sold (joke presumed ... that is what I commented on)


It is only in the IPL case where the costs were not recovered. As a matter of principle, I do not like the fact that adequate number of tickets are not available to the public.
Anyway, I don't have CAB's balance sheets in front of me. I am only giving pointers (BCCI's arm-twisting, haggling over few crores while showering 73 crores on Mumbai, and the CAB's own costs for the renovation, possibility of sabotage - why would cables in a stadium be stolen?) which could explain why this was not taken care of.


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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #63 on: December 28, 2009, 10:04:13 PM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.

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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #64 on: December 28, 2009, 10:29:56 PM »
It's with sadness that I read that after renovations, the Eden Gardens will hold a capacity of only 73,000. This is a far cry from the 110,000 I have witnessed.

Whereas 150 cr was pumped into the Wankhede and 100 cr for the Kotla, only 50 cr. went to the Eden. Eden Gardens has been cut to size, literally. Thank you f*ing Western Union.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #65 on: December 28, 2009, 10:36:53 PM »
It's with sadness that I read that after renovations, the Eden Gardens will hold a capacity of only 73,000. This is a far cry from the 110,000 I have witnessed.

Whereas 150 cr was pumped into the Wankhede and 100 cr for the Kotla, only 50 cr. went to the Eden. Eden Gardens has been cut to size, literally. Thank you f*ing Western Union.

the "Chamatkar" or F*ing (thank you 3 idiots ) is performed by the CAB, the blame will be put on the western union. Bravo gangulians. They have no shame. They have no dignity.

Could their name be chatur something?
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #66 on: December 28, 2009, 11:02:58 PM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.
OK ... I got enough laughter.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2009, 11:29:29 PM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.
OK ... I got enough laughter.

I actually will protest if they try to change the name. 
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #68 on: December 29, 2009, 03:55:22 AM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.
OK ... I got enough laughter.

I actually will protest if they try to change the name.

the only name they will change it to would be to something like Reliance field or something like that. india is copying the us very very quickly
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #69 on: December 29, 2009, 04:07:57 AM »
Let us get some facts right.

The Rs23cr being paid to the MCA is in lieu of rent for three or four floors that will be occupied in the premises - one/two for the board's office and another two for the IPL's office. It has been termed "contribution to cricket" instead of "lease rent" in order to avoid taxation in the hands of MCA.

The BCCI is contributing Rs50cr out of the Rs150cr that MCA requires for its renovation. It is contributing half of Rs50-80cr that Eden requires for its renovation. So what is the problem?
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #70 on: December 29, 2009, 07:15:19 AM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.

I was reacting to his last post to Dex. Please note.

Sorry mine was a general comment based on several comments that were addressed to CP and sort of bracketed your comment with all of the others.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #71 on: December 29, 2009, 07:38:43 AM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.
OK ... I got enough laughter.

I actually will protest if they try to change the name.

the only name they will change it to would be to something like Reliance field or something like that. india is copying the us very very quickly

that's good or bad by you? just curious... ... ...
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2009, 08:55:01 AM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.

KIC, chashme lagwa lo...dg hi pay kar dega

dekhne ke liye chashma lagta hai ...mujhe toh valid posts dikh gaye ...maybe you should try one more time ..if not, those glasses will come in handy
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2009, 03:01:45 PM »
I thought CP made some very valid posts in that response to Inoc. Not sure how he can be termed to be running out of gas or just resorting to rhetoric here.

KIC, chashme lagwa lo...dg hi pay kar dega

dekhne ke liye chashma lagta hai ...mujhe toh valid posts dikh gaye ...maybe you should try one more time ..if not, those glasses will come in handy

en gangulians ke pass to pehle se hi chashma hai. Hatred ka chashma. Bias ka chashma.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2009, 03:07:46 PM »
After their desh drohi issues, Eden Garden now for the 3rd time loses one of its flood lights. IMO it is unacceptable for an international venue. putting the poll up for the junta

I agree is is unacceptable for an international venue in India.   It would support it's rights to host any kind of matches after it is renamed to "Tagore Stadium" ,  "Subrato Roy Park",  "Sen/Ganguly/Roy/Banergee Maidan" or some such thing.   sorry, I can't support Eden Garden or Eden Park.
OK ... I got enough laughter.

I actually will protest if they try to change the name.

the only name they will change it to would be to something like Reliance field or something like that. india is copying the us very very quickly

that's good or bad by you? just curious... ... ...

I dont have a problem with corporate naming rights. If they make money like that they may not have to beg and then have that chip on their shoulder against BCCI.

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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #75 on: January 03, 2010, 02:22:14 PM »
Kolkata will be hosting one of the two Tests versus SA next month.
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Re: Should Eden garden be removed as an international venue?
« Reply #76 on: January 03, 2010, 02:39:09 PM »
Kolkata will be hosting one of the two Tests versus SA next month.

wow. must be the western union conspiracy to make them look even worse!
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