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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #120 on: December 04, 2009, 04:06:44 PM »
Dravid was out too .... but that was hard to pick up.
I have seen that replay a few times of that nick from Dravid.  International umpires especially the good one's are expected to pick those.  There was both sound and deviation on that edge and the umpire goofed that up.  Good thing is Dravid did not punish SL for that lapse from the Umpire and soon perished.
True, but small, and the bat hit the ground too which makes it a little more difficult. While the umpire clearly gave the wrong decision, it is a smaller wrong than some other decisions we have been seeing (ie. he recognized some doubt and gave the benefit to the batsman, whereas of late this is not always happening).


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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #121 on: December 05, 2009, 04:37:26 AM »
Dilshan given out wrongly again.  Terrible decision.   He was padding up way forward to HS.

Dilshan given out wrongly in both the innings.  Imagine such a thing happening to someone line Tendulkar.

Shastri and Gavaskar would have gone go on and on.   But here just keeping shut.  What a terrible duo to be having to listen to.  It is a curse.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #122 on: December 05, 2009, 05:13:46 AM »
It did look out to the naked eye. With the ball spinning in and with him offering no shot, I can see how the umpire was misled.

Wrong decision --sure. But one can see how the umpire saw that.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #123 on: December 05, 2009, 05:37:52 AM »
Dhoni probbaly has erred here by taking Harbhajan off at a time when he was troubling both bats regularly.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #124 on: December 05, 2009, 07:30:57 AM »
Second down ... Sreesanth!
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #125 on: December 05, 2009, 08:15:00 AM »
One more.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #126 on: December 05, 2009, 09:05:02 AM »
It did look out to the naked eye. With the ball spinning in and with him offering no shot, I can see how the umpire was misled.

Wrong decision --sure. But one can see how the umpire saw that.

No sympathy for any batsmen given out, not offering a shot. Only balls pitched outside the leg stump qualify for that stroke imo.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #127 on: December 05, 2009, 10:11:03 AM »
It did look out to the naked eye. With the ball spinning in and with him offering no shot, I can see how the umpire was misled.

Wrong decision --sure. But one can see how the umpire saw that.

No sympathy for any batsmen given out, not offering a shot. Only balls pitched outside the leg stump qualify for that stroke imo.
Why? According to the rules he should be not out, no?  This is cricket not baseball, so we cannot expect Baseball rules.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #128 on: December 05, 2009, 12:06:31 PM »
The Dilshan decision was really poor. I was watching it live but was surprised when that was given. Playing no shot should not have had a bearing here - the spin on the ball was visible before it struck pad and even at normal speed there was no way that would have hit the stumps.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #129 on: December 05, 2009, 04:00:50 PM »
What surprised me most about the Dilsha decision was it was almost premeditated on the part of the umpire, it was like you pad up one more time and I will get you
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #130 on: December 05, 2009, 04:28:40 PM »
What surprised me most about the Dilsha decision was it was almost premeditated on the part of the umpire, it was like you pad up one more time and I will get you
That is exactly what it was.

1) He padded up few times before that decision was given.  But that was all within the laws of the game.

2) The appeal was in unison and HS came down the track and turned vociferously towards the umpire and that tilted the scale.

3) A decent umpire again would look at the path of the ball which Harper did not seem to that too at such a close distance.  That is what is so pity about all this.

4) It clearly looked not out to the NAKED EYE atleast for me and my judgement proved correct as opposed to the sorry Harper's.

5) May be Dilshan for a such a free flowing stroke player may be wondering at using that technique to pad up balls to minimise the chance of dismissals by taking the bat-pad out of the equation.  He did not know he was dealing with an umpire who turned out to be incompetent atleast in my books and there is no excuse for that.  In handsight he should have just played at most of the balls and not pad them up.

India would have won perhaps without all this help from the Umpires anyway but these type of decisions just takes away the intensity out of the games.  For Dilshan it was a nightmare of a Test because in honesty he was not dismissed even once in this game.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #131 on: December 05, 2009, 04:51:11 PM »
After today's win India will be number one team on the ICC rankings in Tests.

However in ODI's the story is quite different.

The difference between the the two teams is two players who go by names of VVS and RD and also VS who stangely is a better Test bat than a ODI bat.

It is a testimony to the trio of SRT/VVS/RD complemented very well at the top by GG/VS and led by a MSD and in bowling ZK has been a revelation since that English series more than 2 years back.

After that defeat in SL last year we have series wins versus Aus, Eng, NZ, SL in succession.   4 series wins in a row is something to savor and a deserved elevation to the No.1 as of now.

I think the line-up of GG/VS/RD/SRT/VVS is the best in the world followed by MSD and they can play against any team in any conditions and match up very well.  That is what is the key to this team.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #132 on: December 05, 2009, 05:15:36 PM »
After today's win India will be number one team on the ICC rankings in Tests.

However in ODI's the story is quite different.

The difference between the the two teams is two players who go by names of VVS and RD and also VS who stangely is a better Test bat than a ODI bat.

It is a testimony to the trio of SRT/VVS/RD complemented very well at the top by GG/VS and led by a MSD and in bowling ZK has been a revelation since that English series more than 2 years back.

After that defeat in SL last year we have series wins versus Aus, Eng, NZ, SL in succession.   4 series wins in a row is something to savor and a deserved elevation to the No.1 as of now.

I think the line-up of GG/VS/RD/SRT/VVS is the best in the world followed by MSD and they can play against any team in any conditions and match up very well.  That is what is the key to this team.
These players are obviously good and at present more stable than our ODI squad.

But it might be a happy coincidence that has helped us to get here in terms of test rankings. After that series in Australia, we have been mostly playing at home  (barring 2 tests in NZ ). So our wins against Aus/Saf/England have been at home. While we did beat England in England, I think that is more difficult than beating them in India.

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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #133 on: December 06, 2009, 04:16:21 AM »
ZK gets Sanga early today a few minutes back.

It was an excellent ball that had a little movement away in the last second to induce the edge to Dhoni.

Nice to watch.  A classic dismissal.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #134 on: December 06, 2009, 04:21:23 AM »
Nice catch by Ojha to get rid of Herath.  ZK gets one more.

Eight down.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #135 on: December 06, 2009, 04:34:27 AM »
Nice catch by Ojha to get rid of Herath.  ZK gets one more.

Eight down.
This time catch taken by the other Hyderabadi in the side.  VVS Laxman. :)

ZK gets a well deserved 5'fer.

Nine down with one to go and 26 runs to make India bat again.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #136 on: December 06, 2009, 04:43:48 AM »
HS gets the last wicket.

We win.

We are No.1 Test nation in the world.

SRT speaks and puts perspective on things and what it means. 

Great feeling without a doubt.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #137 on: December 06, 2009, 05:20:52 AM »
Now for all we care there are 5 meaningless ODI's coming up and SL can have those especially the one in Rajkot. :)

We won Tests 2-0 and that is what really matters the most.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #138 on: December 06, 2009, 05:43:02 AM »
HS gets the last wicket.

We win.

We are No.1 Test nation in the world.

SRT speaks and puts perspective on things and what it means. 

Great feeling without a doubt.
And mentions Prasad and Robin Singh too.  Rather than read a lot into it (which may be), these people should be mentioned. They were part of the journey, and played their roles till relatively recently.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #139 on: December 06, 2009, 07:41:45 AM »
Another 16 runs tomorrow will make VS the first player in history to score three triple hundreds.  If he gets to it and no reason to believe he will not after a goodnight's rest that record will not be broken anytime soon despite the advancements in scoring rates in ODI's tests.

It takes lot more than scoring fast to get to a triple hundred.  Even the prolific Lara and Bradman only managed to cross that hollowed mark twice along with VS as of now and that could change early tomorrow with VS being the first three timer of triple hundred.

thanks for jinxing!!
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #140 on: December 06, 2009, 03:13:32 PM »
Another 16 runs tomorrow will make VS the first player in history to score three triple hundreds.  If he gets to it and no reason to believe he will not after a goodnight's rest that record will not be broken anytime soon despite the advancements in scoring rates in ODI's tests.

It takes lot more than scoring fast to get to a triple hundred.  Even the prolific Lara and Bradman only managed to cross that hollowed mark twice along with VS as of now and that could change early tomorrow with VS being the first three timer of triple hundred.

thanks for jinxing!!
I sure did.  It would have been really nice if he did get there to 300 after that stellar innings. :)
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #141 on: December 06, 2009, 03:24:35 PM »
While our run of home tests did help, we stack up quite well v/s the other teams home and away over the last cycle (if we can call it that)

(Combined - home & away)

SL : 3-2
WI : 3-0
Eng: 2-0
Aus: 3-2
Pak: 1-1 (didn't go there this time)
NZ : 1-0
SA : 2-3

This sets up the home & away series' v/s SA very nicely - that will truly be a contest for the No 1 bragging rights.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #142 on: December 06, 2009, 03:32:41 PM »
While our run of home tests did help, we stack up quite well v/s the other teams home and away over the last cycle (if we can call it that)

(Combined - home & away)

SL : 3-2
WI : 3-0
Eng: 2-0
Aus: 3-2
Pak: 1-1 (didn't go there this time)
NZ : 1-0
SA : 2-3

This sets up the home & away series' v/s SA very nicely - that will truly be a contest for the No 1 bragging rights.
When is the series with SA at home and away.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #143 on: December 06, 2009, 03:37:06 PM »
Both in 2010
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #144 on: December 06, 2009, 03:37:47 PM »
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #145 on: December 06, 2009, 06:52:34 PM »
Both in 2010

I think the SA tour of India is ODI only.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #146 on: December 06, 2009, 06:56:51 PM »
Both in 2010


I think the SA tour of India is ODI only.
Look here.  I am not sure how accurate this scheduling is though.

http://www.itsonlycricket.com/entry/1296/
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #147 on: December 06, 2009, 07:04:38 PM »
Both in 2010


I think the SA tour of India is ODI only.
Look here.  I am not sure how accurate this scheduling is though.

http://www.itsonlycricket.com/entry/1296/


I thought I remembered reading an article about BCCI/ICC re-scheduling to make  it ODI only, but I can't dig it up. My bad.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #148 on: December 06, 2009, 07:13:15 PM »
Both in 2010


I think the SA tour of India is ODI only.
Look here.  I am not sure how accurate this scheduling is though.

http://www.itsonlycricket.com/entry/1296/


I thought I remembered reading an article about BCCI/ICC re-scheduling to make  it ODI only, but I can't dig it up. My bad.
It could very well be true in what  you are saying because some of these things are not updated often and what gives credence to what you are saying is Dhoni's statements that India are only playing 2 Tests versus BD in the next six months or so.
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #149 on: December 07, 2009, 06:25:11 AM »
i think odi series against bangla is actually tri-series with SA?
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Re: 3rd Test: India v Sri Lanka at Mumbai (BS) Dec 2-6
« Reply #150 on: December 07, 2009, 11:42:26 AM »
Sehwag was outstanding and  fully deserved the MOM . But MOS , I thought Rahul deserved it more . He was consistent throughout . He averaged more then 100 and of his 4 dismissals 2 were very unlucky . Most importantly , if not for him we would have perhaps gone into Kanpur 0-1 down and who knows what would have happened.
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« Reply #151 on: December 07, 2009, 12:29:12 PM »
Sehwag was outstanding and  fully deserved the MOM . But MOS , I thought Rahul deserved it more . He was consistent throughout . He averaged more then 100 and of his 4 dismissals 2 were very unlucky . Most importantly , if not for him we would have perhaps gone into Kanpur 0-1 down and who knows what would have happened.

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