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[dextrous]

from reuters

Young players should not be distracted by the vast amounts of cash on offer from the Indian Premier League (IPL) and instead focus on earning national selection, former India captain Sunil Gavaskar has warned.

"For those playing at the college level or club level, the India cap still should be the be-all and end-all, not the IPL," he said, joining a debate over the impact of the multi-million dollar franchise league on players.

"Players today, even those not on the national team, are able to make a living," he added in delivering the inaugural Dilip Sardesai lecture in memory of his former India batting partner.

"IPL has changed that, and that's great.

"But the worry is that IPL may be considered the be-all and end-all by these young players."

India coach Gary Kirsten said the IPL left his players tired and carrying injuries after the holders were knocked out early from last month's Twenty20 World Cup in England.

Twenty20 competitions have proved a massive commercial success, with lucrative IPL contracts a major incentive for players, but it has raised concerns it could undermine the traditional form of the game.

Gavaskar said some Indian players even skipped domestic games to stay injury-free for the IPL.

The non-stop playing commitments of India players also left them with little time to recover or mentor youngsters, he said.

"In our time we had seniors who guided us with a hand on the shoulder or a slap on the wrist, to tell us our priority is cricket," said Gavaskar.

He also warned that the game risked losing fans and respect due to poor player behaviour.

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

[ruchir]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

[ramshorns]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

[WicketView]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

I don't know if that had any correlation with IPL and its money. But, yes, it was an extreme, inexcusable act. And while outrageous acts must be punished with appropriately extreme measures, one must not let through the small acts of obscene gesturing and shouting that is becoming common today. How often do we read of a bowler giving the batsman a mouthful after getting him out? That sounds like a meaningless (ie. not even useful from the point of view getting any advantage by sledging, which I feel is bad anyway) indecent act. One really needs to clean up the atmosphere by getting rid of all this altogether. 

[ganavk]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

I don't know if that had any correlation with IPL and its money. But, yes, it was an extreme, inexcusable act. And while outrageous acts must be punished with appropriately extreme measures, one must not let through the small acts of obscene gesturing and shouting that is becoming common today. How often do we read of a bowler giving the batsman a mouthful after getting him out? That sounds like a meaningless (ie. not even useful from the point of view getting any advantage by sledging, which I feel is bad anyway) indecent act. One really needs to clean up the atmosphere by getting rid of all this altogether.

some times it is not necessary to have any correlation to bash the players who is hated. Anyway...Bhajji was appropriately punished for that act and rightly so. But IPL certainly would have encouraged players like Symonds to defy his own board, team members to go against the rules and thus get suspended. he does not show any remorse because he knows one or the other IPL team ( DC in this case) is more than happy to welcome him to their side as long as he wins the matches not caring about the bad influences on others in the team.!

[ramshorns]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

I don't know if that had any correlation with IPL and its money. But, yes, it was an extreme, inexcusable act. And while outrageous acts must be punished with appropriately extreme measures, one must not let through the small acts of obscene gesturing and shouting that is becoming common today. How often do we read of a bowler giving the batsman a mouthful after getting him out? That sounds like a meaningless (ie. not even useful from the point of view getting any advantage by sledging, which I feel is bad anyway) indecent act. One really needs to clean up the atmosphere by getting rid of all this altogether.

some times it is not necessary to have any correlation to bash the players who is hated. Anyway...Bhajji was appropriately punished for that act and rightly so. But IPL certainly would have encouraged players like Symonds to defy his own board, team members to go against the rules and thus get suspended. he does not show any remorse because he knows one or the other IPL team ( DC in this case) is more than happy to welcome him to their side

There is a difference.  Symonds was disciplined for his off field personal behaviour by CA and it's their call while Singh was punished for what he did with in the field of play in IPL slapping opossing players and setting such a bad example.  So it is your hatred for Symmo and the Aussie players more than anything else that overlook's these otherwise very obvious things to most of us and you blame others of hatred which is what you have obviously.

as long as he wins the matches not caring about the bad influences on others in the team.!

Again do you even know he was the best influence for the young DC players as was disclosed by the DC team management and it's players in many interviews given the way he prepares and the way he teaches the young players.  That influence showed in the way of team work and DC winning the cup as opposed to all these other teams.  If Symmo was such a bad influence then that would haved shown or come in the way of the results which is so common in team sports.

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"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

I don't know if that had any correlation with IPL and its money. But, yes, it was an extreme, inexcusable act. And while outrageous acts must be punished with appropriately extreme measures, one must not let through the small acts of obscene gesturing and shouting that is becoming common today. How often do we read of a bowler giving the batsman a mouthful after getting him out? That sounds like a meaningless (ie. not even useful from the point of view getting any advantage by sledging, which I feel is bad anyway) indecent act. One really needs to clean up the atmosphere by getting rid of all this altogether.

some times it is not necessary to have any correlation to bash the players who is hated. Anyway...Bhajji was appropriately punished for that act and rightly so. But IPL certainly would have encouraged players like Symonds to defy his own board, team members to go against the rules and thus get suspended. he does not show any remorse because he knows one or the other IPL team ( DC in this case) is more than happy to welcome him to their side

There is a difference.  Symonds was disciplined for his off field personal behaviour by CA and it's their call while Singh was punished for what he did with in the field of play in IPL slapping opossing players and setting such a bad example.  So it is your hatred for Symmo and the Aussie players more than anything else that overlook's these otherwise very obvious things to most of us and you blame others of hatred which is what you have obviously.

as long as he wins the matches not caring about the bad influences on others in the team.!

Again do you even know he was the best influence for the young DC players as was disclosed by the DC team management and it's players in many interviews given the way he prepares and the way he teaches the young players.  That influence showed in the way of team work and DC winning the cup as opposed to all these other teams.  If Symmo was such a bad influence then that would haved shown or come in the way of the results which is so common in team sports.

bhajji was punished for a crime of passion ... he was provoked and he responded ... and was rightly punished for it. he lost a million dollars and a whole season.

symonds on the other hand has committed the same crime multiple times. he has let his team down over and over again and shows no remorse. a repeat offender in my books is always more guilty !

[dhruvdeepak]

gavaskar is a sock sucker

[ganavk]

"I don't understand why youngsters these days, when they score a century or take a wicket, mouth off and shout obscenities," he said.

"You may think mouthing off is being macho, but that's not what this sport is about."

One thing, on which I agree with Sunny G. These days YS and IKP have this habit of shouting after getting a wicket or scoring a 50 or 100. Totally unnecessary.

I totally concur with that thought process.  The worst of the side effects of that were on display when Singh punched SS in last year's IPL a move of unprecedented arrogance with fame and money getting into the head.  But we as fans need to learn to take the good with the bad.

I don't know if that had any correlation with IPL and its money. But, yes, it was an extreme, inexcusable act. And while outrageous acts must be punished with appropriately extreme measures, one must not let through the small acts of obscene gesturing and shouting that is becoming common today. How often do we read of a bowler giving the batsman a mouthful after getting him out? That sounds like a meaningless (ie. not even useful from the point of view getting any advantage by sledging, which I feel is bad anyway) indecent act. One really needs to clean up the atmosphere by getting rid of all this altogether.

some times it is not necessary to have any correlation to bash the players who is hated. Anyway...Bhajji was appropriately punished for that act and rightly so. But IPL certainly would have encouraged players like Symonds to defy his own board, team members to go against the rules and thus get suspended. he does not show any remorse because he knows one or the other IPL team ( DC in this case) is more than happy to welcome him to their side

There is a difference.  Symonds was disciplined for his off field personal behaviour by CA and it's their call while Singh was punished for what he did with in the field of play in IPL slapping opossing players and setting such a bad example.  So it is your hatred for Symmo and the Aussie players more than anything else that overlook's these otherwise very obvious things to most of us and you blame others of hatred which is what you have obviously.

Correction. Bhajji incident did not happen in in actual area of game 'field' and it was something that happened outside. Rest of them are not worth responding to. IMO there is no difference. When you are on a tour with a team whatever happens off the field is as good as what happens on the field especially in this era of PC!

as long as he wins the matches not caring about the bad influences on others in the team.!

Again do you even know he was the best influence for the young DC players as was disclosed by the DC team management and it's players in many interviews given the way he prepares and the way he teaches the young players.  That influence showed in the way of team work and DC winning the cup as opposed to all these other teams.  If Symmo was such a bad influence then that would haved shown or come in the way of the results which is so common in team sports.

hmmm..if he is such a good influence why does Australia team threw him out and it is not the first time. You are correlating DC winning to Symond's influence which is too far fetched to say the least especially since he joined only in the later 4-5 matches.

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We seem to be heading away from the topic.  Bhaji and Symonds have been guilty of major transgressions ... I believe it is safe to say that noone thinks that these should go unpunished and both have faced punishments from their boards. One can argue about whether these have been appropriate enough or not, but that is different. Bowlers shouting at batsmen after getting a wicket is not even condemned strongly ... not even in the way dissent to umpires of the mildest form is penalized.

[RicePlateReddy]

gavaskar is a sock sucker

Indeed he was.

England Tour 1974    
 
The evening after the Test, they [Indian team] had to show up at a State Bank of India function and then attend a party hosted by B.K. Nehru, India's high commissioner to the UK. However, the team's departure for the SBI function was delayed due to what seemed to be Adhikari's penchant for telephone calls. London's rush-hour traffic delayed them further, and the players reached the high commissioner's residence nearly an hour after they were supposed to. Wadekar and Adhikari apologised, only to be told by a fuming Nehru in full view of the other guests to 'get out'. The players returned to their bus and refused to heed Adhikari's pleas to return to the party. Eventually, Venkataraghvan, the vice-captain, convinced them, and Nehru apologised. But it was pointless to expect the players to behave as if nothing had happened. Their reticence was misconstrued as arrogance.

It was on the following day that the players learnt why their manager had seemingly fallen in love with the telephone and thereby caused the delay. An overzealous house detective at London's Marks and Spencer departmental store had apprehended Sudhir Naik on charges of shoplifting. It so happened that Naik had bought 20 pairs of socks for himself and his team-mates, who had given him money for the same. He had been asked to buy some other items as well, and was in the process of doing just that when two additional pairs of socks slipped below a pair of slacks into his bag. The shop authorities refused to believe him and summoned the police. That had forced Adhikari to make several phone calls to try and do his bit to avoid negative publicity.

In what was an extraordinary case of mismanagement, Naik was then convinced to plead guilty to get the matter over and done with. He did, and the press reacted with unbridled glee.

Not many people, some of his team-mates included, were initially prepared to believe Naik's version. But one man was. Sunil requested Adhikari to let him share a room with Naik. He intercepted abusive phone calls and psyched a despondent Naik to abandon thoughts of committing suicide.

SMG: A Biography of Sunil Manohar Gavaskar   
By Devendra Prabhudesai
Rupa & Co.

[dextrous]

gavaskar is a sock sucker

and what does that have to do with the article which you didnt read