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Indian Team World Record
« on: April 06, 2006, 03:36:18 PM »
Seriously guys, we should celebrate this. We are so used to individual glory and individual stats and records, this is total new..Indian team establishing world records in terms of wins. Only other instance I remember is the Natwest final, which was the world record chase at that time. I think we will not improve on the 8 straight wins record because the next ODI will have lot of experimental selections.



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India won their 15th consecutive chase, breaking the earlier world record of 14 set by West Indies between February 1985 and November 1986. They also equalled their own record of eight straight ODI wins. India have
won eight ODIs in a row twice before - between February and August 1985 and at the 2003 World Cup.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 03:39:18 PM »
The 8 consecutive victories are against Pak and Eng. In spite of Eng missing key players, this is indeed (as Ranjit Fernando would put it) a matter to celebrate.
Verrrrry praiseworthy. Exxxxcellent
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2006, 04:11:35 PM »
But since Ganguly isnt the Captain we cant really celebrate can we? Stop focussing on silly things and focus on the Karachi and Mumbai losses and how SG would have turned it around single handedly!
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2006, 04:54:14 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2006, 04:57:37 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory. Of course there are sterner tests abroad, but remember some of the victories came in Pak and winning so many chases or in a row is a first time for us as a team. Com'n dude, lets drop our prejudices/biases and celebrate India's victory.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2006, 04:58:32 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...


No it wont. Unless SG is there you guys would still find a way to demean the effort. So until Aussies won in India last year were they not considered the best team in the world ? Did their ranking have a bleeping asterix on it that it did not have X matches won in India or in Jhumri Tallaiyya?

Keep on your single point agenda of attacking this winning Indian team. Your choice. Atleast be honest and admit what you are doing!
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2006, 05:01:24 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2006, 05:07:54 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2006, 05:09:28 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.

Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 05:13:17 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 05:14:49 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.

Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.
no need, just say Eden garden crowd hai hai..don't bring the whole of bengal into the mix..

oh btw, feel free to worship Ganguly too if you want..no probs..
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 05:15:41 PM »
Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.

I knew our resident Khuda was anti India but to go anti the land of Bose and Tagore is just not done!

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory

Yup we cant mention that SRT is missing too. Sehwag/Kaif are in the worst form of their life. etc etc ... Ofcourse we only hear the oppositions excuses.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2006, 05:15:56 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...


No it wont. Unless SG is there you guys would still find a way to demean the effort. So until Aussies won in India last year were they not considered the best team in the world ? Did their ranking have a bleeping asterix on it that it did not have X matches won in India or in Jhumri Tallaiyya?

Keep on your single point agenda of attacking this winning Indian team. Your choice. Atleast be honest and admit what you are doing!

boy, cool down.
where was the attack on Indian team, CP? Waiting for your response
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 05:16:13 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory
Agreed but what was our ODI record at home under previous regime?  Please don't start with current Eng team is weak BS.
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 05:17:54 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory
nope..just agree with gangulians and we will all be happy.

Bouncer, you do talk sense most of the time. Why are you refusing to see the point of my thread? That this is a depleted Eng team is a given , which I mentioned in a separate thread. For me, the happy thing is about displaying that business like keenness to fold up the series in 4 straight wins and we also did the same to Pak. This was not done before. On top of it, we became a good chasing side now. Why not be happy about it?
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2006, 05:17:56 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.

Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.
no need, just say Eden garden crowd hai hai..don't bring the whole of bengal into the mix..

oh btw, feel free to worship Ganguly too if you want..no probs..


no, there is a very good need. should we give the nagpur curator a bharat ratna? selective memory?

for someone so dedicated to coming across as an intellectual in chappel love, you can recommend what kind of idol I should purchase.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2006, 05:19:16 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.

Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.
no need, just say Eden garden crowd hai hai..don't bring the whole of bengal into the mix..

oh btw, feel free to worship Ganguly too if you want..no probs..


no, there is a very good need. should we give the nagpur curator a bharat ratna? selective memory?

for someone so dedicated to coming across as an intellectual in chappel love, you can recommend what kind of idol I should purchase.
'Seeeee, Nagpur curator tooooo' tendency..  ;D
I am riled about Nagpur curator too..what difference does it make?
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2006, 05:20:20 PM »
boy, cool down.
where was the attack on Indian team, CP? Waiting for your response

The attack is by not giving them the credit for the wins and just coming up with excuses.
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2006, 05:24:22 PM »
The real test will be ouside the subcontinent against full-strength SA, ENG, and AUS team...

;D really sad, can't appreciate India's victory.

Fox News Drum Roll.
Nope..Eden Garden treason  :)
looks like a lot of people on this DG might have joined the crowds in Eden Garden on that fateful day to boo Indian team and support the opposition team.

Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.
no need, just say Eden garden crowd hai hai..don't bring the whole of bengal into the mix..

oh btw, feel free to worship Ganguly too if you want..no probs..


no, there is a very good need. should we give the nagpur curator a bharat ratna? selective memory?

for someone so dedicated to coming across as an intellectual in chappel love, you can recommend what kind of idol I should purchase.
'Seeeee, Nagpur curator tooooo' tendency..  ;D
I am riled about Nagpur curator too..what difference does it make?

How hard was that to type?
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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2006, 05:24:30 PM »
Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.

I knew our resident Khuda was anti India but to go anti the land of Bose and Tagore is just not done!

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory

Yup we cant mention that SRT is missing too. Sehwag/Kaif are in the worst form of their life. etc etc ... Ofcourse we only hear the oppositions excuses.

If you are happy with the performance, go and dance down the street! That is your right. But some of us still believe beating a half-strength English team is no big deal! OK?

Ha Ha, nonperforming players in the team can not be a equated with players who are missing due to injuries or other personal reasons. CP, that is BS.
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2006, 05:26:20 PM »
what is the record for straigt number of wins...is it 13 or 17 before we defeated sa...they were close to the record any ideas
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« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2006, 05:27:02 PM »
boy, cool down.
where was the attack on Indian team, CP? Waiting for your response

The attack is by not giving them the credit for the wins and just coming up with excuses.

May be my standard is a little higher... that's all ;D
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« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2006, 05:28:05 PM »
what is the record for straigt number of wins...is it 13 or 17 before we defeated sa...they were close to the record any ideas
Think its 20 or 21
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« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2006, 05:28:39 PM »
like when we held after the world cup under sg....
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« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2006, 05:29:01 PM »
Nagpur Zindabad. Flute maharaj zindabad. Bengal hai hai. Bengalis die die.

I knew our resident Khuda was anti India but to go anti the land of Bose and Tagore is just not done!

Dex, we need to have a Fair and balanced approach, which means you can not mention that almost half of the English team is missing.. we can not point out that al these wins gainst England, SL, and SA have come at home.

You have to agree in every step wih the O'Rielly, Hannity and Limbaugh-lites here. Otherwise you will be branded as not appreciating India's victory

Yup we cant mention that SRT is missing too. Sehwag/Kaif are in the worst form of their life. etc etc ... Ofcourse we only hear the oppositions excuses.

If you are happy with the performance, go and dance down the street! That is your right. But some of us still believe beating a half-strength Indian team is no big deal! OK?

Ha Ha, nonperforming players in the team can not be a equated with players who are missing due to injuries or other personal reasons. CP, that is BS.
you are spot..all Indian team supporters will indeed go and dance on the streets and celebrate the success..some will simply  sit in a room and rue their fallen hero's fate. be my guest..
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« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2006, 05:29:27 PM »
If you are happy with the performance, go and dance down the street! That is your right. But some of us still believe beating a half-strength Indian team is no big deal! OK?

Ha Ha, nonperforming players in the team can not be a equated with players who are missing due to injuries or other personal reasons. CP, that is BS.

what riles me the most is you continuing to call this england team haldf strength. Vaughn may retire from ODI's as he is not effective. So basically they are just missing tresco. SRT is a bigger name no?

And if I just want to argue I can start naming our injured players

Balaji
Nehra
ZK (ate too much)
SG (injured his brain and offside play)
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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2006, 05:29:54 PM »
lalala fox news is hiring
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« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2006, 05:30:31 PM »
what is the record for straigt number of wins...is it 13 or 17 before we defeated sa...they were close to the record any ideas

it was closer to 21
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« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2006, 05:31:11 PM »
lalala fox news is hiring
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And NBC for "today" show
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« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2006, 05:32:32 PM »

And if I just want to argue I can start naming our injured players

Balaji
Nehra
ZK (ate too much)
SG (injured his brain and offside play)
etc

You got that one right. if you just want to argue....................
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« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2006, 05:32:41 PM »
NBC is hiring and fox is too dex/bouncer you guys can try if you are blonde and look good in skirt  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2006, 05:35:47 PM »
A day in CP's School of Journalism:

Repeat after me. England are a great One Day side. Prior greatest opener ever. Shah an awesome player. More you say about Solanki the better. Ali best bowler since Botham. Batty as good as Harbhajan.

Repeat 10 times every hour. You will believe it too.
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« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2006, 05:36:48 PM »
NBC is hiring and fox is too dex/bouncer you guys can try if you are blonde and look good in skirt  ;D

Give me the number of the surgeon who did the procedure on you...... ;D
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« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2006, 05:39:16 PM »
A day in CP's School of Journalism:

Repeat after me. England are a great One Day side. Prior greatest opener ever. Shah an awesome player. More you say about Solanki the better. Ali best bowler since Botham. Batty as good as Harbhajan.

Repeat 10 times every hour. You will believe it too.

dex also add this for your mantra"SG is the best thing to happen to indian cricket after rasgoola" 8)
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« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2006, 05:43:25 PM »
what is the record for straigt number of wins...is it 13 or 17 before we defeated sa...they were close to the record any ideas

it was closer to 21

It is 21 & the record is held by Australia. SA's sequence was about sequence of ODIs not losing, but not a continuous sequence of wins, there were some No Result matches in that sequence.

21 is a long long way to go. Since we will rest some players in the next 3 ODIs, there are chances that we might lose a game or 2.
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« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2006, 05:43:35 PM »
A day in CP's School of Journalism:

Repeat after me. England are a great One Day side. Prior greatest opener ever. Shah an awesome player. More you say about Solanki the better. Ali best bowler since Botham. Batty as good as Harbhajan.

Repeat 10 times every hour. You will believe it too.

dex also add this for your mantra"SG is the best thing to happen to indian cricket after rasgoola" 8)

While your bengali joke is rather cute, my name, you see, is not saurabh das gupta, it is saurabh gupta.
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« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2006, 05:44:08 PM »
A day in CP's School of Journalism:

Repeat after me. England are a great One Day side. Prior greatest opener ever. Shah an awesome player. More you say about Solanki the better. Ali best bowler since Botham. Batty as good as Harbhajan.

Repeat 10 times every hour. You will believe it too.

dex also add this for your mantra"SG is the best thing to happen to indian cricket after rasgoola" 8)

>>Do you have doubt about that? just check how many teams from Indian have reached WC finals, Or drew a series in land of mighty Aussies or how many had balls to win a game in pakistan. Oh also do check where Indian cricket was before SG took over.
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« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2006, 05:49:25 PM »
dex also add this for your mantra"SG is the best thing to happen to indian cricket after rasgoola" 8)

No actually he is one of the best things with Gavaskar, Kapil, Tendulkar, Kumble, and Dravid

Some of the bad things- Sudhir Nayek (the shop lifter), Azhar (the match-fixer), and More (less said the better)
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« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2006, 05:52:10 PM »
A day in CP's School of Journalism:

Repeat after me. England are a great One Day side. Prior greatest opener ever. Shah an awesome player. More you say about Solanki the better. Ali best bowler since Botham. Batty as good as Harbhajan.

Repeat 10 times every hour. You will believe it too.

Khuda bowls it fast and furious. Outside off and swinging away. CP watches it go safely in the hands of SG the keeper (of the flame)!
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Re: Indian Team World Record
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2006, 05:58:59 PM »
Guys, guys, why are we fighting over this?  For some reason, each side (and supposedly you have to be on one or the other; Chappell v. Ganguly; each side for the most part labeling the other as evil) feels the need to rub in victories or losses into the others faces.  Am I the only one that thinks that is a little petty?  Flute is right in that it is a very good accomplishment-- we are playing some very good ODI cricket overall right now, BUT bouncer also has a point that we still need to perform well in ODIs outside the subcontinent (the WI will be the first opportunity to do so).  However, even winning in the subcontinent, 4 times in a row against a very strong Pakistani side, as they once again proved by anhilating Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka, and then beating an admittedly understrength English side (really only Trescothick is the player they desperately miss in the ODIs; Vaughn has a horrendous ODI record and may actually never play ODI cricket again, Giles' ODI record is no great shakes, and yeah...they do miss Harmison to an extent, although he is yet to really perform well in the subcontinent.) 4 times in a row is quite an accomplishment.  It is not that we weren't favored to win the series, but that this sort of consistency in ODI cricket is generally not associated with Indian cricket, even at home.  We almost never used to beat any team 4 times in a row in a series.  We've managed to lose several matches to Zimbabwe, one to Bangladesh, and a couple to Kenya.  That is nothing new-- we've always had those moments of compalcency and inconsistent performances, losing matches we had no right losing, but what I like is that it seems the team comes prepared to give the same effort whether the scoreline is 0-0 or if it is 3-0.  I hope we continue to show the same intensity in the so-called "dead rubbers," because it is really easy to lose focus and intensity, but that is not the sign of a professional side trying to become the best.  We need to finish off the series emphatically, winning by at least a 6-1 margin, much like we did against Sri Lanka.  And not playing some of the stars should not be an excuse...others need to step up and fill the void.  Basically, it is a very good achievement to win consistently at home, but it would be a mistake for any of the players and fans to simply bask in the glory.  Imran Khan recently said during "Straight Drive" following the Indians defeating the Pakistanis that the truly great teams analyze their victories for faults.  I could not agree more.  That is constructive criticism I am talking about-- not just bashing.  We need to look at the aspects where we can continually improve our game and there is no doubt that right now, the biggest gaping hole performance-wise is the openers slots.  Dravid has filled in admirably, but I do not think that is a long-term solution.  Sehwag is clearly a huge worry and so is the extremely poor form of Mohammad Kaif-- certainly both Venugopal Rao and Robin Uthappa have to get their opportunities to stake their claims now.  The only other slight worry I see is that of the support pacers for Pathan, but unlike with the out of form batsmen, I don't see as many trouble signs there.  I think it might be time to get RPS back in for a couple of games.
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