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[CLR James]

I did not see the match. What happened?

[feverpitch]

I did not see the match. What happened?

Nothing...

He just scored a zero...

 

[Libran]

I did not see the match. What happened?

Nothing...

He just scored a zero...

 

Hey Fever...How does one score a 'zero' 

[dhruvdeepak]

snicked an innocuous ball outside off to the keeper. very worrying. i reckon he will be rested/dropped

[srinath]

snicked an innocuous ball outside off to the keeper. very worrying. i reckon he will be rested/dropped

why very worrying?

[dhruvdeepak]

worrying because hes getting out to deliveries that arent doing anything, that too before he even gets his eye in. if he got the odd jaffa, or he worked his way to a 20-odd i would not be as worried

[srinath]

worrying because hes getting out to deliveries that arent doing anything, that too before he even gets his eye in. if he got the odd jaffa, or he worked his way to a 20-odd i would not be as worried

why worry abt it? replace him with someone.. am sure there are many.
i think one shud worry abt sehwag not getting runs. he is a special talent and he can make a  big difference

[achutank]

i have a theorey:

look at these thre guys:

HS
MK
VS


All of a sudden they seem to have lost it in the last two-three series.

now look at the other side

MSD
YS
SR

they seem to have found some thing great in the last two-three series.

can it be that the coach applies one kind of style of coaching only? so some people really flourish while others who probably need to be coached differently flounder because they are not really working on the game in a  way that benefits them?

this is an open question with no malice to anyone.

anybody who has playeda professional sport with an active trainer can probbaly be in a  better position to answer imo.

[Libran]

Dhruv...With that kind of a thumbnail why is your mood different ??

Or is it that it is a cock a snook at people eying yr thumbnail   

[dhruvdeepak]

Or is it that it is a cock a snook at people eying yr thumbnail   Roll Eyes

eggjactly

[Libran]

Or is it that it is a cock a snook at people eying yr thumbnail   Roll Eyes

eggjactly

Where are the eggs ?? Safe , I guess 

[schumi]

i have a theorey:

look at these thre guys:

HS
MK
VS


All of a sudden they seem to have lost it in the last two-three series.

now look at the other side

MSD
YS
SR

they seem to have found some thing great in the last two-three series.

can it be that the coach applies one kind of style of coaching only? so some people really flourish while others who probably need to be coached differently flounder because they are not really working on the game in a  way that benefits them?

this is an open question with no malice to anyone.

anybody who has playeda professional sport with an active trainer can probbaly be in a  better position to answer imo.

Agree with you regarding the possibility of the coach applying the same style for different persons. However, HS I dont think has been performing badly in ODIs. In tests, he seemed to have lost confidence after the pak tour and seemed to have regained it in Mumbai. As far as VS, MK is concerned, the coach is certainly to blame. There seems to be no improvement whatsover. Is it got to do with pressure for their places in the team. In the previous regime, they had more or less assured spots that allowed them to play their games freely.

[ramshorns]

I did not see the match. What happened?

Nothing...

He just scored a zero...

 

Funny.

[OldPal]

Looks like MK and VS would be kept further in the series.
When is the team for the next ODI's being announced ?
captain Rahul Dravid said:
"They are good quality players and I expect them to fire in this series. "It's not always easy in a long season to keep going and there are going to be one or two who might be out of form

source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4872558.stm

[ramshorns]

Looks like MK and VS would be kept further in the series.
When is the team for the next ODI's being announced ?
captain Rahul Dravid said:
"They are good quality players and I expect them to fire in this series. "It's not always easy in a long season to keep going and there are going to be one or two who might be out of form

source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4872558.stm

That would be sad if they retain both VS and Kaif.  It is not fair on the players who performed well in the domestics.  Besides I am confused with what Dravid is saying here.  Kaif has never been great in any stretch during his career.  I do not think he warrants an extended run IMO. 

The only thing cooking for Dravid at the moment is the wins.  As long as that happens he can demand anything he wants.

[chetan]

Looks like MK and VS would be kept further in the series.
When is the team for the next ODI's being announced ?
captain Rahul Dravid said:
"They are good quality players and I expect them to fire in this series. "It's not always easy in a long season to keep going and there are going to be one or two who might be out of form

source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4872558.stm

That would be sad if they retain both VS and Kaif.  It is not fair on the players who performed well in the domestics.  Besides I am confused with what Dravid is saying here.  Kaif has never been great in any stretch during his career.  I do not think he warrants an extended run IMO. 

The only thing cooking for Dravid at the moment is the wins.  As long as that happens he can demand anything he wants.

he isn't making any unreasonable demands. we have invested too much in kaif to throw it away now. kaif is a collyingwood type cricketer. i'm sure he'll be back to his best before the end of this series. maybe they have to send  him in at number 3 once to help him get his confidence back. sehwag i'm not sure of. maybe he needs to be dropped for a match or two so that he doesn't take his place for granted.

[ramshorns]

Looks like MK and VS would be kept further in the series.
When is the team for the next ODI's being announced ?
captain Rahul Dravid said:
"They are good quality players and I expect them to fire in this series. "It's not always easy in a long season to keep going and there are going to be one or two who might be out of form

source:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/england/4872558.stm

That would be sad if they retain both VS and Kaif.  It is not fair on the players who performed well in the domestics.  Besides I am confused with what Dravid is saying here.  Kaif has never been great in any stretch during his career.  I do not think he warrants an extended run IMO. 

The only thing cooking for Dravid at the moment is the wins.  As long as that happens he can demand anything he wants.

he isn't making any unreasonable demands. we have invested too much in kaif to throw it away now. kaif is a collyingwood type cricketer. i'm sure he'll be back to his best before the end of this series. maybe they have to send  him in at number 3 once to help him get his confidence back. sehwag i'm not sure of. maybe he needs to be dropped for a match or two so that he doesn't take his place for granted.

Great reward guys with 4 0's with no3. spot, while there are guys like Venu are sitting on the bench.  This guy is just getting too many chances for doing nothing in his entire career.  Just being an average cricketer.  His best is still not what the likes of VS, YS, Raina or Dhoni can give you.  Then why this obsession.  I will also dare say his fielding is overrated.

[chetan]

his fielding isn't overrated. it's saves quite a few runs every match, but that is expected of every youngster these days. i would also like to see venu get a few chances, but in place of dravid when dravid is rested.

[gouravk]

I will keep backing Sehwag and Kaif whenever they go out to bat.

[Blwe_torch]

You back, they bat!

[justforkix]

Kaif is the best fielder in this team by a looong way inspite of Raina and Yuvi. Proof : 1st 3 ODIs. Kaif saved minimum 15 runs in each of the 3 ODIs.

[toney]

I will keep backing Sehwag and Kaif whenever they go out to bat.

update required

[senthilpeter]

Kaif's batting leaves a lot to be desired for sure, but his fielding is not overrated. He's simply exceptional. Even in this day and age of young turks fielding quite well, it will take a lot to unearth people of Kaif's fielding abilities. The guy is a cut above.

[dextrous]

Kaif is the best fielder in this team by a looong way inspite of Raina and Yuvi. Proof : 1st 3 ODIs. Kaif saved minimum 15 runs in each of the 3 ODIs.

I guess that brings his average up to 15 

[ramshorns]

Kaif is the best fielder in this team by a looong way inspite of Raina and Yuvi. Proof : 1st 3 ODIs. Kaif saved minimum 15 runs in each of the 3 ODIs.

I guess that brings his average up to 15 

And JFK counted them.