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[Blwe_torch]

oops... Dravid drops a sitter!

RD dropped the match? Sanga going nuts..

Lets hope not.
But, as you can guess, I am supporting Punjab here...and anything that comes this way, is gladly accepted.

[Blwe_torch]

Punjab doing just fine now. Hope, they continue all the way to victory!

[poondu]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

[Blwe_torch]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

Yes.

[poondu]

Excellent spell from Kumble..

[poondu]

PK taken to the cleaners...

[Cover Point]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

[poondu]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Kallis is already there, he is anyway supposed to captain when KP is gone..

[ruchir]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

[Cover Point]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Kallis is already there, he is anyway supposed to captain when KP is gone..

nopes but they still have KP making the decisions ... and no one drops himself.

[Cover Point]

 

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

nopes.

nothing can be proved by one case. You can have a great methodology  but a project can still fail.  You can have a successful project without a good methodology. Doesnt necessarily mean methods are bad. Could say something about the executioners

[poondu]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Kallis is already there, he is anyway supposed to captain when KP is gone..

nopes but they still have KP making the decisions ... and no one drops himself.

not everybody is as gracious as u 

[ramshorns]

Ravi Bopara.

What KKR missed yesterday.  Finish in style and not leave it for someone else.

[Cover Point]

Bopara gone

[Blwe_torch]

Great show by Punjab!
Bopara rocks!

[ruchir]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

nopes.

nothing can be proved by one case. You can have a great methodology  but a project can still fail.  You can have a successful project without a good methodology. Doesnt necessarily mean methods are bad. Could say something about the executioners

1. Apology accepted. 

2. Since you accept that having multiple captains or all-powerful coach is not necessarily a guaranteed-success methodology, why go for it? Having one captain, who is in charge, is guaranteed successful 50%, while your preferred methodology has as yet been proved fatally flawed. Still you wanna go for it? All the best.

[Cover Point]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

nopes.

nothing can be proved by one case. You can have a great methodology  but a project can still fail.  You can have a successful project without a good methodology. Doesnt necessarily mean methods are bad. Could say something about the executioners

1. Apology accepted. 

2. Since you accept that having multiple captains or all-powerful coach is not necessarily a guaranteed-success methodology, why go for it? Having one captain, who is in charge, is guaranteed successful 50%, while your preferred methodology has as yet been proved fatally flawed. Still you wanna go for it? All the best.

1. Your apology is not yet accepted. Will keep it under consideration.

2. So you are saying one should not try anything new at all. I mean afterall nothing new has been proven in the past.

[ramshorns]

Coming to the line up I like the Kings 11 line up better than the BRC 11.  They seemed to have more depth in bowling with Irfan counting as a full fledged bat and that swayed them to get that extra bowler.  Good move.  I do not see great bowling depth for BRC with the line up they went with and unless they get to 180 plus Kings 11 will chase this down.

That is exactly what seemed to have happended as I said after the toss.  One bowler short by BRC after failing to score 180 plus when you pack your 11 with batters.  Good selection by Kings 11 and they got the win.  That is what it boils down to.  Strategy and selecting the right combination and I felt Punjab did that in comparision to BRC and they got the result.  Good for them.

[gouravk]

so now CSK, KKR, KXIP in the 5-6-7 slot all battling it out ! this is getting real exciting !!

[cricket_news]

Bopara half-century leads Punjab to maiden win
24 April 2009, 5:54 pm



Bangalore Royal Challengers 168 for 9 (Kallis 62, Abdulla 4-31, Pathan 3-35) v Kings XI PunjabLive scorecard and ball-by-ball detailsHow they were out



Jacques Kallis ensured that Bangalore didn't sink after losing top-order wickets quickly

© AFP

Bangalore Royal Challengers' bid to score a victory after two successive defeats was revived after a poor start, by Jacques Kallis who scored an aggressive century to lead his team to 168. Kallis continued the trend of technically-correct batsmen enjoying success in South African conditions, employing a wide range of strokes on either side of the wicket to set Kings XI Punjab a challenging target under lights.

Punjab, however, would have been grateful for a dry and sunny evening in Durban and could thank Yusuf Abdulla for striking at crucial moments to trip up Bangalore just as they were beginning to gather momentum. Abdulla, who had bowled three overs for 39 before this match, used a clever mix of fast and slow balls and finished with figures of 4 for 31.

Bangalore's openers once again failed to put a partnership together with Robin Uthappa chasing and edging Irfan Pathan's wide delivery in the second over. It was the fourth time in as many matches that Bangalore were losing an opener for a duck (Jesse Ryder twice, Praveen Kumar and Uthappa once). Ryder, however, finally got off the mark this season, punching his third ball off Ranadeb Bose to the cover boundary. Thereafter, Ryder took a shine to Bose, pulling twice to the midwicket boundary and driving powerfully through covers to take 18 runs off the third over.

Kallis started in high gear, pulling a short ball from Pathan over the long-leg boundary and lofting Abdulla's first ball over cover point for four. Ryder also hit Pathan to the point boundary and Bangalore seemed to have shrugged off their Powerplay troubles: their average in the first six overs was 36 runs for the loss of 2.33 wickets on average and today they were 48 for 1 off 5.1 overs.

Abdulla, however, wrecked their momentum, bowling Ryder as he attempted to play a pull. Two balls later, he struck a tremendous blow, drawing Kevin Pietersen into spooning a catch to cover off a slower ball. Rahul Dravid once again entered with his team in trouble - 48 for 3 - but this time he failed to contribute. Tied down by the spinners - Bangalore scored only 22 between overs six and ten - Dravid attempted to smash Piyush chawla down the ground and skied a catch towards long-on.

With the innings beginning to flounder at 73 for 4, Kallis took charge, making room to hit Yuvraj Singh's left-arm offerings inside out through cover. Ross Taylor also found his rhythm after edging VRV Singh for his first boundary and got going with a back-foot cover drive off the same bowler.

Kallis and Taylor had added 61 in quick time before Abdulla returned to induce a mis-timed pull from Kallis with a slower short ball. Taylor continued to attack, slog-sweeping Chawla into the stands at deep midwicket, but he eventually became Adbulla's fourth wicket. Pathan picked up quick wickets towards the close and Bangalore finished about 15 runs short of what they would have aimed for.

George Binoy is a senior sub-editor at Cricinfo



Source: India news from Cricinfo

[ramshorns]

so now CSK, KKR, KXIP in the 5-6-7 slot all battling it out ! this is getting real exciting !!

I will take KKR out of it.  They have Chopra and Bangar in the line up.  And Agarkar is their frontline bowler.  After Gayle is gone Ganguly is their best bat and in 20-20 that will not be enough to pull it through.  Sorry as of now they do not inspire anyone.  They will keep going down.

[ruchir]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

nopes.

nothing can be proved by one case. You can have a great methodology  but a project can still fail.  You can have a successful project without a good methodology. Doesnt necessarily mean methods are bad. Could say something about the executioners

1. Apology accepted. 

2. Since you accept that having multiple captains or all-powerful coach is not necessarily a guaranteed-success methodology, why go for it? Having one captain, who is in charge, is guaranteed successful 50%, while your preferred methodology has as yet been proved fatally flawed. Still you wanna go for it? All the best.

1. Your apology is not yet accepted. Will keep it under consideration.

2. So you are saying one should not try anything new at all. I mean afterall nothing new has been proven in the past.

It's not about not trying anything new. You have been misunderstanding everyone all along.

It's about putting a little bit of thought and common sense in identifying if the proposed methodology will make any sense at all or not, in the given sport. Look at it this way...
A) say you are cooking a meal. Ideally you should be the one to decide how you wanna prepare every dish. But you are in a scenario where you have person A who decides how much salt will go in every dish because he is the salt expert, you have person B who decides how much garam masala will go because he is masala expert, you will be left with putting the prescribed spices in the dish and cooking it.
B) say you are cooking a meal. You are in the kitchen, but you have your mother forcing you to take her advice. She is in her bedroom, unwilling to come to kitchen. There is loud TV playing in the living room that you can not turn off. So, you start cooking based on what ever little you directions you can get from your mother.

How do you think the meal is going to turn out in both cases?

[Cover Point]

B'lore should drop KP for the next match. Get Boucher in , I am sure he can contribute much better than KP

u need multiple captain theory for that

Warne has put a lid on this subject for ever. He (who is coach + only captain) has soundly defeated McCullum + Buchanan + who-ever-else-is-the-captain+coach+whatnot in terms on tactics and decision making. Matter over, dusted and done with.

nopes.

nothing can be proved by one case. You can have a great methodology  but a project can still fail.  You can have a successful project without a good methodology. Doesnt necessarily mean methods are bad. Could say something about the executioners

1. Apology accepted. 

2. Since you accept that having multiple captains or all-powerful coach is not necessarily a guaranteed-success methodology, why go for it? Having one captain, who is in charge, is guaranteed successful 50%, while your preferred methodology has as yet been proved fatally flawed. Still you wanna go for it? All the best.

1. Your apology is not yet accepted. Will keep it under consideration.

2. So you are saying one should not try anything new at all. I mean afterall nothing new has been proven in the past.

It's not about not trying anything new. You have been misunderstanding everyone all along.

It's about putting a little bit of thought and common sense in identifying if the proposed methodology will make any sense at all or not, in the given sport. Look at it this way...
A) say you are cooking a meal. Ideally you should be the one to decide how you wanna prepare every dish. But you are in a scenario where you have person A who decides how much salt will go in every dish because he is the salt expert, you have person B who decides how much garam masala will go because he is masala expert, you will be left with putting the prescribed spices in the dish and cooking it.
B) say you are cooking a meal. You are in the kitchen, but you have your mother forcing you to take her advice. She is in her bedroom, unwilling to come to kitchen. There is loud TV playing in the living room that you can not turn off. So, you start cooking based on what ever little you directions you can get from your mother.

How do you think the meal is going to turn out in both cases?

if the mother can come to edge of the kitchen and I can meet her there for decision making, I am pretty sure the meal will be fine. Specially if we have talked about the cooking strategy ahead of time and am just making adjustments based on her advise. She ofcourse is able to see the meal on a CCTV and can taste things some how too (in your example).

point is its a new idea. Its not gonna make a loser into #1. Neither should it make a #1 team into a loser. Its just a different way of managing the game. The idea is new. Will need to be modified. Needs to be tried by a stronger team. Wish DD was able to try this. That would have told us a lot.

A coach or a captain can make a 10% different to the results at most. They are not going to make water turn to wine.

KKR was a poor team ... either way you look at it. They sucked last year when SG ran it. This when they had better bowling than this year with all they traitor Pakis in the team. They are a poor team this year. So we cant tell if its the multi captain or coach theory that works or not.

Lets get a wider sample .... and see

[LosingNow]

so now CSK, KKR, KXIP in the 5-6-7 slot all battling it out ! this is getting real exciting !!

I will take KKR out of it.  They have Chopra and Bangar in the line up.  And Agarkar is their frontline bowler.  After Gayle is gone Ganguly is their best bat and in 20-20 that will not be enough to pull it through.  Sorry as of now they do not inspire anyone.  They will keep going down.

They have a 55 person roster

[Blwe_torch]

kindly restrain your 'expert' opinion...as they have fallen flat on many an occasion.

[ruchir]

I come back to my oft stated opinion - If you are making a 7-course meal, taking help makes sense. If you are preparing one dish only, what's the point in taking help? How much help are you gonna require in those 20 minutes of cooking that you can't discuss before you start cooking? That's the point. Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love). If you are doing something quick (like self indulgence) you don't need help.

if the mother can come to edge of the kitchen and I can meet her there for decision making, I am pretty sure the meal will be fine. Specially if we have talked about the cooking strategy ahead of time and am just making adjustments based on her advise. She ofcourse is able to see the meal on a CCTV and can taste things some how too (in your example).

Your cooking is time bound. You can't keep going to the kitchen door every so often, 'cause you will be late in finishing your cooking and fines imposed on you will be require you to file bankruptcy and ask for a bailout.

Again, if you are preparing a single dish how much help will you need? And if you are making a 7-course meal then communicating with your mother will most probably be against the rules. So, why would your implement an idea that is against the existing rules of the sport? First have the rules changed, then implement your idea.

point is its a new idea. Its not gonna make a loser into #1. Neither should it make a #1 team into a loser. Its just a different way of managing the game. The idea is new. Will need to be modified. Needs to be tried by a stronger team. Wish DD was able to try this. That would have told us a lot.

If an idea can not turn a loser team like KKR into a winning team, then what's the point? What is SRK and JB trying to do? Win IPL2 or go about trying out some weird idea by hit-and-trial method? If they believe that this new idea will not turn them into winners then they better try out some other idea. Point is, since they were horrible in IPL1, this time round they should have been very very careful in every step they take. If they really really feel that having multi-captains or all-powerful coach would make them winners, then and only then they should have adopted this strategy.

If they are simply doing a trial-by-error trick to see if the new idea works or not, they are doing a huge disservice to their team.

And why should this failing idea be tried by a stronger team? I mean, you have a team that did well last year, so why should it do something radically different this year... something that doesn't even makes sense!!!

A coach or a captain can make a 10% different to the results at most. They are not going to make water turn to wine.

KKR was a poor team ... either way you look at it. They sucked last year when SG ran it. This when they had better bowling than this year with all they traitor Pakis in the team. They are a poor team this year. So we cant tell if its the multi captain or coach theory that works or not.

Lets get a wider sample .... and see

Where did you get the 10% figure? Probably your guess gas  . Warne turned dirt to gold last year, leave aside turning water to wine. Warne forced SRK and SG to do a mujra the other night. Captain has a big role to play in success, IMO.

[LosingNow]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

[Cover Point]

I come back to my oft stated opinion - If you are making a 7-course meal, taking help makes sense. If you are preparing one dish only, what's the point in taking help? How much help are you gonna require in those 20 minutes of cooking that you can't discuss before you start cooking? That's the point. Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love). If you are doing something quick (like self indulgence) you don't need help.

if the mother can come to edge of the kitchen and I can meet her there for decision making, I am pretty sure the meal will be fine. Specially if we have talked about the cooking strategy ahead of time and am just making adjustments based on her advise. She ofcourse is able to see the meal on a CCTV and can taste things some how too (in your example).

Your cooking is time bound. You can't keep going to the kitchen door every so often, 'cause you will be late in finishing your cooking and fines imposed on you will be require you to file bankruptcy and ask for a bailout.

Again, if you are preparing a single dish how much help will you need? And if you are making a 7-course meal then communicating with your mother will most probably be against the rules. So, why would your implement an idea that is against the existing rules of the sport? First have the rules changed, then implement your idea.

point is its a new idea. Its not gonna make a loser into #1. Neither should it make a #1 team into a loser. Its just a different way of managing the game. The idea is new. Will need to be modified. Needs to be tried by a stronger team. Wish DD was able to try this. That would have told us a lot.

If an idea can not turn a loser team like KKR into a winning team, then what's the point? What is SRK and JB trying to do? Win IPL2 or go about trying out some weird idea by hit-and-trial method? If they believe that this new idea will not turn them into winners then they better try out some other idea. Point is, since they were horrible in IPL1, this time round they should have been very very careful in every step they take. If they really really feel that having multi-captains or all-powerful coach would make them winners, then and only then they should have adopted this strategy.

If they are simply doing a trial-by-error trick to see if the new idea works or not, they are doing a huge disservice to their team.

And why should this failing idea be tried by a stronger team? I mean, you have a team that did well last year, so why should it do something radically different this year... something that doesn't even makes sense!!!

A coach or a captain can make a 10% different to the results at most. They are not going to make water turn to wine.

KKR was a poor team ... either way you look at it. They sucked last year when SG ran it. This when they had better bowling than this year with all they traitor Pakis in the team. They are a poor team this year. So we cant tell if its the multi captain or coach theory that works or not.

Lets get a wider sample .... and see

Where did you get the 10% figure? Probably your guess gas  . Warne turned dirt to gold last year, leave aside turning water to wine. Warne forced SRK and SG to do a mujra the other night. Captain has a big role to play in success, IMO.

lets disagree to agree on this one (have to say the opposite of Kban)

[cricket_news]

Bopara half-century leads Punjab to clinical victory
24 April 2009, 6:36 pm



Kings XI Punjab 173 for 3 (Bopara 84) beat Bangalore Royal Challengers 168 for 9 (Kallis 62, Abdulla 4-31, Pathan 3-35) by seven wicketsScorecard and ball-by-ball detailsHow they were out



Ravi Bopara displayed tremendous calmness during the Kings XI Punjab chase

© AFP

Ravi Bopara compiled a supremely-paced innings, one that could rival AB de Villiers' century because it came during a run-chase, to give Kings XI Punjab their first victory of the tournament. He scored steadily without taking too many risks and just when the chase entered its final phase Bopara accelerated with tremendous speed to consign Bangalore Royal Challengers to their third consecutive defeat.

The groundwork for the win was laid by Punjab's bowlers who made their first sunny match-day count. Yusuf Abdulla, who had bowled three overs for 39 before this match, struck at crucial moments in Bangalore's innings. Abdulla's four strikes, and Irfan Pathan's three in the final overs, were vital in restricting Bangalore to 168, a target which allowed Punjab's batsmen to play according to a plan.

Chasing under lights at Kingsmead can be tricky and Punjab approached their chase cautiously. Their openers, Karan Goel and Bopara, played few big shots, focusing instead on scoring at nearly eight an over by pushing the ball into gaps. They scored only 44 off the first six overs and Bopara's pull off Jacques Kallis, which sailed over the square leg boundary at the start of the seventh over, was the first six of the innings.

Goel fell soon after, run out after a stand of 52, and the batsmen that followed - Kumar Sangakkara and Yuvraj Singh - also paced, rather than pushed, their innings. Punjab ensured that the asking-rate didn't spiral out of control, but with 60 runs needed off the last five overs, they couldn't afford any slip-ups.

Bopara ensured there weren't any. He launched into Praveen Kumar in the 16th over, smashing him for sixes over long-on and deep backward square leg and took 19 runs off the over. Yuvraj pulled and glanced two fours off Kallis in the next over to reduce the equation to 28 off three. And when Bopara pulled a full toss and powered another full ball over the leg-side boundary, the game was nearly won. Yuvraj reached the target with a straight six with a whole over to spare, completing a clinical chase.

The calmness that Punjab exhibited during the chase was absent during Bangalore's innings. Bangalore's openers once again failed to put a partnership together with Robin Uthappa chasing and edging Pathan's wide delivery in the second over. It was the fourth time in as many matches that Bangalore were losing an opener for a duck (Jesse Ryder twice, Praveen and Uthappa once). Ryder, however, finally got off the mark this season, punching his third ball off Ranadeb Bose to the cover boundary.

Kallis started in high gear, pulling a short ball from Pathan over the long-leg boundary and lofting Abdulla's first ball over cover point for four. Ryder also hit Pathan to the point boundary and Bangalore seemed to have shrugged off their Powerplay troubles: their average in the first six overs was 36 runs for the loss of 2.33 wickets and today they were 48 for 1 off 5.1 overs.

Abdulla, however, wrecked their momentum, bowling Ryder as he attempted to play a pull. Two balls later, he struck a tremendous blow, drawing Kevin Pietersen into spooning a catch to cover off a slower ball. Rahul Dravid once again entered with his team in trouble - 48 for 3 - but this time he failed to contribute. Tied down by the spinners - Bangalore scored only 22 between overs six and ten - Dravid attempted to smash Piyush Chawla down the ground and skied a catch towards long-on.

Kallis and Taylor had added 61 in quick time before Abdulla returned to induce a mis-timed pull from Kallis with a slower short ball. Taylor continued to attack, slog-sweeping Chawla into the stands at deep midwicket, but he eventually became Adbulla's fourth wicket. Pathan picked up quick wickets towards the close and Bangalore finished several runs short of what they would have aimed for.

George Binoy is a senior sub-editor at Cricinfo



Source: India news from Cricinfo

[inoc]

CP

in the light of what happened in the KKR/RR match lets review the coach v captain scenario again.

two instances I want to talk about.

1.

SW told his fielders not to wipe the ball in the 18th over, so that when he came in to bowl he could show a wet ball to the umpires and demand a change. A decision entirely based on his reading of the situation whereby he decided a 'changed' ball with a better seam and completely dry may help him in bowling the decisive over that won the match.

now, if we had four captains :

the bowling captain, unaware of this theory would be screaming at the players to wipe the ball

the fielding captain would be besides himself at the prospect that the harder ball is going to make stroke play easier and hence fielding difficult

the batting captain would at all times advice against such a change where the harder ball provides an  advantage for the batting side.

cant remember a fourth captain so will give it a miss.

end result the decision would not have been made and SW would have been voted out from such a manoeuvre.

now instead of four captains if we had a coach leading the side:

how is he ever going to be in a position to make that decision.
SW is making that decision based on his instincts, marginal decisions which may make the difference between a tied match and a won match. the coach far away at the 'edge' of the boundary line has no clue. he can never have that clue.

what the coach can do is to provide basic principles of strategy and that is I think always there whether he is in charge or not.

taking this to ruchir and your example about cookery - mum can change basic things e.g I have put too much salt what should I do? put in a few more potatoes and it will be alright says mum from the edge of the kitchen.

she has advised you that when the meat has been 'bhuno-ed' add the water. she cannot determine from the edge of the kitchen if the meat has been done or not - it is for you to decide and if you make a wrong decision the dish comes out bad.

in cricket matches the recipes are usually not repetitions (where you have practiced before) especially the important ones were the decision mattered.

2.

kamran khan bowled a wide first ball in the 20th over.

SW ran up to him and indicated that it did not matter.  he had faith in him and whether he succeeded or not would not change the way he felt about him as a cricketer.
(i dont know but he must have said something in those lines)

kamran knowing his captain has full faith in him even after he faltered has every chance to excel.

look at it in the 'coach is all' scenario - even if all the four captains come and reassure him after the wide he still at the back of his mind is not sure what the all powerful coach is thinking about him.

result - the likelyhood of the nervousness carrying on for the rest of the over.


how is this different from football you may ask:

the fact that in cricket the dew on the ball (or many other factors) have a different effect on each side depending whether they are batting or fielding.

to carry on your cooking example - in cricket you need to know when to do what depending on the circumstances, the first hand experience of it is only available to those on the field (the cook in the example), while in football overall strategy like adding potatoes when you have added too much salt is the advice you need.

they are different games my friend and deserve to be looked at differently rather than pitch them all into one ball park.

[Cover Point]

inoc will respond in details later

but kamran's super over bowling was bad. real bad. he was lucky to get away with just 15 .... could have been worse but even 15 was too much ... it was bucky's mistake to bring on Mendis.

as i said Coach gets kudos and coach gets the brickbats.

see my response to ruchir for more s

[Blwe_torch]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

anyway, I am taking time-off.

[LosingNow]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

anyway, I am taking time-off.

Forced or reluctant

[Blwe_torch]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

anyway, I am taking time-off.

Forced or reluctant

calculated....self-help is the best help...they say!

[ruchir]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

Not manual, not tech, but human. You can't make love alone, can you? Well maybe you can if you are SRK. 

[Cover Point]

Help is required when you have to indulge in a long activity (like making love).

What kind of help.. manual or technology
--
Blwe - don't answer this q,  you will not relate to long activity in this context

anyway, I am taking time-off.

Forced or reluctant

calculated....self-help is the best help...they say!

question to self: Should I? Should I? aahh jaane deta hoon. This one is too easy

[gouravk]

coaching is for losers. 

[flashpan]

The same old problems haunting our team . Hopefully , we will start afreash tomorrow . But , heck , why are we alone playing matches day in and day out whereas other teams have more time to refresh and organise themselves for the next match . We played in CT on 18th , PE on 20th , CT again on 22nd , Durban on 24th and  again back to PE tomorrow . I know our team is weak but this hectic schedule has contributed further to our losses.