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[Total Members Voted:]

Bangalore

5 (16.1%)

Chennai

5 (16.1%)

Deccan

2 (6.5%)

Delhi

8 (25.8%)

Kolkata

4 (12.9%)

Mohali

1 (3.2%)

Mumbai

5 (16.1%)

Rajasthan

1 (3.2%)

Total Members Voted: 31

Voting closed: April 19, 2009, 02:41:01 AM

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[dextrous]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

[sudzz]

It will be split into 2 groups.. and perhaps with a quarter final phase.. franchise owners will never agree to relegation/promotion.

why not? as long as both are telecast in the same manner? with the split of telecast revenues being the same for all franchisees irrespective of which league they are part of. maybe that will allow IPL to get into a different deal for telecast of the plate league ...meaning more cash flow.

I think the TV deal has revenues escalation built-in over time, in anticipation of expansion. AFAIK, I dont think IPL can squeeze more.

Nope. The deal is now constant ..i.e. the same amount accrues to the IPL every year. In fact, as each year progresses, the amount that passes thru to the franchisees keeps going down. Whether the original contract with Sony guarantees X number of matches or Y number of teams is what is not known. I think the guarantee would be for X number of matches. So, if the number of teams increase, there should be some scope to renegotiate as long as Sony gets the promised number of matches.

The relegated franchisees will suffer in their own exclusive revenues - attendance, in-stadia and other sponsor, merchandise etc.

Sure ...but then that is the incentive of winning. However, if the IPL can assure them of more cash flow from television revenues (the highest share of their overall revenues), I dont think the fall in other sources of income will matter as much.

But, we'll have to wait and see what they have in mind.

They can actually sustain a larger group with two levels the premier level can have 10 teams and the second level could be another 15 teams and there could be a club level competition to qualify for this 25 member elite group.

Guidelines for qualifying, relegation etc need to be drawn up but there are enough templates available around the world sport.

[LosingNow]

I dont like relegation/promotion .. a DC and BRC after having a bad season would not have gone to the final 4 in that scenario. IPL teams are much more closer competitively than football.

[sudzz]

I dont like relegation/promotion .. a DC and BRC after having a bad season would not have gone to the final 4 in that scenario. IPL teams are much more closer competitively than football.

Yes I agree but thats what will add to the drama and the excitement and its precisely this fact which will keep interest in the second level very very high

[natty]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

[justforkix]

I dont like relegation/promotion .. a DC and BRC after having a bad season would not have gone to the final 4 in that scenario. IPL teams are much more closer competitively than football.

relegation doesen't make sense with just 8 teams. Makes sense with probably 16 or more teams.

[dextrous]

I dont like relegation/promotion .. a DC and BRC after having a bad season would not have gone to the final 4 in that scenario. IPL teams are much more closer competitively than football.

relegation doesen't make sense with just 8 teams. Makes sense with probably 16 or more teams.

with icl players available, league can easily expand to 12...maybe not relegation but two groups...with top 2/3 teams going for a knockout phase

[justforkix]

I think the whole format needs to be re-looked. The tourney just aimlessly drags on the last few matches.

[dextrous]

I think the whole format needs to be re-looked. The tourney just aimlessly drags on the last few matches.

ya with only 8 teams...playing each other 2x was an overkill...

[dhruvdeepak]

I think the whole format needs to be re-looked. The tourney just aimlessly drags on the last few matches.

really? kkr v rr  and punjab vs chennai were basically quarterfinals. there were only 2 matches after those.

[ramshorns]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

[LosingNow]

Semi's:

CSK
DC
DD
MI

Finalists:
CSK
DC

Winners:
DC

Teams I like to do well:
KKR, Only to shut some of the JB haters up not because of his multi-captain theory which I do not buy into either but because somehow they think it undermines Ganguly and strip him of his captiancy which I do not think is the case.   JB has team's and SRK's interest in mind and I think is a very genuine man.

RAMJI

 

[ramshorns]

Semi's:

CSK
DC
DD
MI

Finalists:
CSK
DC

Winners:
DC

Teams I like to do well:
KKR, Only to shut some of the JB haters up not because of his multi-captain theory which I do not buy into either but because somehow they think it undermines Ganguly and strip him of his captiancy which I do not think is the case.   JB has team's and SRK's interest in mind and I think is a very genuine man.

RAMJI

 

WN:You are the man.

Exuding positivity throughout when game after game I would be seething in the match threads albeit in the Team's interest.

So a big  and big time  for the fellow DC fan of the DG.

We kicked some ass today.

[natty]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

Thank you Saar. It was based on logic. Given the ginormous thrashing given by Gilchrist, it was a given that Kumble as captain would respond to the challenge.  I guess AG had a little too much self belief (maybe he had the feeling that he would get a hundred).  Too bad that Kumble is weak in fielding.. He is one awesome T20 bowler.

My other prediction about BRC winning did not come true.. I am still trying to figure out why :-)  I'll put the blame on RD for his pointless stroke.  Seriously, RPS did so consistently well and I think AG did a great job getting the max out of his troops.. Overall I think Mumbai Indians did the worst (based on their talent) which means that SRT was the worst captain.  Dhoni also goofed in general by not introducing Morkel earlier in the lineup throughout the tournament. There is a place for psychos in T20 and they need to be nurtured carefully.. Its not just a game of reason (in the way ODIs are) but of calculated madness as well.

[ramshorns]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

Thank you Saar. It was based on logic. Given the ginormous thrashing given by Gilchrist, it was a given that Kumble as captain would respond to the challenge.  I guess AG had a little too much self belief (maybe he had the feeling that he would get a hundred).  Too bad that Kumble is weak in fielding.. He is one awesome T20 bowler.

My other prediction about BRC winning did not come true.. I am still trying to figure out why :-)  I'll put the blame on RD for his pointless stroke.  Seriously, RPS did so consistently well and I think AG did a great job getting the max out of his troops.. Overall I think Mumbai Indians did the worst (based on their talent) which means that SRT was the worst captain.  Dhoni also goofed in general by not introducing Morkel earlier in the lineup throughout the tournament. There is a place for psychos in T20 and they need to be nurtured carefully.. Its not just a game of reason (in the way ODIs are) but of calculated madness as well.

Well summed up.

The part outlined in bold is an understatement to say the least.

[keep-it-cool]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

 

[poondu]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

Thank you Saar. It was based on logic. Given the ginormous thrashing given by Gilchrist, it was a given that Kumble as captain would respond to the challenge.  I guess AG had a little too much self belief (maybe he had the feeling that he would get a hundred).  Too bad that Kumble is weak in fielding.. He is one awesome T20 bowler.

My other prediction about BRC winning did not come true.. I am still trying to figure out why :-)  I'll put the blame on RD for his pointless stroke.  Seriously, RPS did so consistently well and I think AG did a great job getting the max out of his troops.. Overall I think Mumbai Indians did the worst (based on their talent) which means that SRT was the worst captain.  Dhoni also goofed in general by not introducing Morkel earlier in the lineup throughout the tournament. There is a place for psychos in T20 and they need to be nurtured carefully.. Its not just a game of reason (in the way ODIs are) but of calculated madness as well.

Well summed up.

The part outlined in bold is an understatement to say the least.

I don't agree. Given the talent CSK had, Dhoni under utilized it. Dhoni was easily the worst captain IMO.

[natty]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

Thank you Saar. It was based on logic. Given the ginormous thrashing given by Gilchrist, it was a given that Kumble as captain would respond to the challenge.  I guess AG had a little too much self belief (maybe he had the feeling that he would get a hundred).  Too bad that Kumble is weak in fielding.. He is one awesome T20 bowler.

My other prediction about BRC winning did not come true.. I am still trying to figure out why :-)  I'll put the blame on RD for his pointless stroke.  Seriously, RPS did so consistently well and I think AG did a great job getting the max out of his troops.. Overall I think Mumbai Indians did the worst (based on their talent) which means that SRT was the worst captain.  Dhoni also goofed in general by not introducing Morkel earlier in the lineup throughout the tournament. There is a place for psychos in T20 and they need to be nurtured carefully.. Its not just a game of reason (in the way ODIs are) but of calculated madness as well.

Well summed up.

The part outlined in bold is an understatement to say the least.

I don't agree. Given the talent CSK had, Dhoni under utilized it. Dhoni was easily the worst captain IMO.

We must then agree to disagree. SRT is the clear champ here in the worst captain stakes.  Leaving out Jayasuriya the best psycho over the last so many years was crazy and there were a number of other poor decisions.

Dhoni is very good tactically but has poor strategy (more overall policy such as making sure that Morkel gets to come before the 12th over and license to settle down and then go psycho).  I think his ODI approach is hurting CSK in the T20 mode.   DD were easily the best team but ran into Gilchrist and poor Sehwag disintegrated.    CSKs bowling lacked a balance, I think or maybe Dhoni isnt quite capable of marshalling the bowlers the way AG did.  Basically AG understood his players better and took more responsibility than did Dhoni who has more to learn in this format. Probably the coach and support staff also played a role..probably too much in awe of Dhoni, I suspect.

A best of 3 format seems more appropriate for the finals or semis.   Baseball has best of 7s for important games.

[12th_Man]

Apart from leaving out Jaya, He had chopped the batting order just after a couple of matches. Jaya and SRT should have opened consistently, With Duminy there to hold the fort and Nayar, Bravo etc to get a late assault. What do SRT do ? sent Bravo to open and SJ  down the order .. huh .. Asking a player like SJ who has demolised every attack at top to come down and player like Brvo, who has proved a good middle order hitter in past matches to open ?

My vote is for SRT as worst captain.

[LosingNow]

Who are the two voters for DC?

One was Rams .. who is the other one. congratulations.

I voted for CSK

[ramshorns]

Who are the two voters for DC?

One was Rams .. who is the other one. congratulations.

I voted for CSK

Yes I myself is curious.  I thought it was you.

Hmm....Who is my comrade....

[dhruvdeepak]

Bangalore, Mumbai, Chennai, Delhi  in the semis

Winner: Bangalore (home team advantage)

I was wrong about Mumbai..

So heres one more prediction..

If Bangalore reach the finals (as I predicted), Kumble will bowl the first over to Gilchrist.

will kumble be playing sreenath's part in the thrashing?

Nope.. Gilly will be out in the first over. Thats the way it goes.

That was prophetic on your part.

 

Thank you Saar. It was based on logic. Given the ginormous thrashing given by Gilchrist, it was a given that Kumble as captain would respond to the challenge.  I guess AG had a little too much self belief (maybe he had the feeling that he would get a hundred).  Too bad that Kumble is weak in fielding.. He is one awesome T20 bowler.

My other prediction about BRC winning did not come true.. I am still trying to figure out why :-)  I'll put the blame on RD for his pointless stroke.  Seriously, RPS did so consistently well and I think AG did a great job getting the max out of his troops.. Overall I think Mumbai Indians did the worst (based on their talent) which means that SRT was the worst captain.  Dhoni also goofed in general by not introducing Morkel earlier in the lineup throughout the tournament. There is a place for psychos in T20 and they need to be nurtured carefully.. Its not just a game of reason (in the way ODIs are) but of calculated madness as well.

Well summed up.

The part outlined in bold is an understatement to say the least.

I don't agree. Given the talent CSK had, Dhoni under utilized it. Dhoni was easily the worst captain IMO.

no. i hate to say it. but sachin was the worst by far. he even beat out mccullum's last over 3-fielders-in-the-ring gaffe.

mumbai indians had the most talent for sure this year:

Sach, Sanath, Bravo, Duminy, Rahane, Nayar, Bhajji, Zak, Malinga

THEN you had Dhawal, Fernando, Mills and Ashraful.

it is criminal to have such a strong squad and play so poorly. i think all they are missing is a good keeper. if i am ambani, i am opening my wallet next year and going for dhoni. trust me, if CSK sees a $5 million amount for him, they WILL take it.

dhoni manufactured some wins out of nowhere as usual. he somehow found a role for tyagi and jakati, then didnt use them when he could have. not to mention makhaya ntini.

badri as usual doesnt have a role in the team, and neither does oram (who is as useful as abhishek raut).

but dhoni wasnt the worst though it is easy to captain when hayden is winning you all the games

[gouravk]

this is no surprise. sachin has always been a horror captain everywhere (except in the ranji trophy) ... so actually the question was would mumbais supreme talent be able to compensate for his shoddy captaincy ... which they could not ...