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IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« on: May 15, 2009, 01:13:54 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2009, 01:31:38 PM »
What abput Nehra - emerging from the Ashes  ;D ;D
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2009, 01:49:49 PM »
What abput Nehra - emerging from the Ashes  ;D ;D
That too..

..but lets focus on the newbies for now
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2009, 01:54:30 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC
WN:What exactly has Goswami done.  He has been found wanting from what I saw.  He is in a set up which is very player friendly and liberal if you consider RD and AK are real nice guys and even gave Jaffer chances when he is not wanted by his own Mumbai team.  Goswami should be sucking big time in the nets if not AK and RD would have brought him in and given him a good run.  Remember they basically are giving a free run to RU and brought Kohli up the order.  These guys really like to promote talent and Goswami perhaps still needs nurturing.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2009, 02:21:31 PM »
Reasonably ok - kulkarni, sangwan, raut, mishra
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2009, 02:22:34 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC
WN:What exactly has Goswami done.  He has been found wanting from what I saw.  He is in a set up which is very player friendly and liberal if you consider RD and AK are real nice guys and even gave Jaffer chances when he is not wanted by his own Mumbai team.  Goswami should be sucking big time in the nets if not AK and RD would have brought him in and given him a good run.  Remember they basically are giving a free run to RU and brought Kohli up the order.  These guys really like to promote talent and Goswami perhaps still needs nurturing.
Agree with Rams here. Even in the two matches he played he was very scratchy. Also including Kamran Khan and Amit Singh after they have been repeatedly been cited for dodgy action is blasphemy. I am sure someone of Warne and Beery's caliber were aware of this and they still played him and got 1-2 wins based on their performance. It is tragedy to be honest and these are the instances which can be used to show IPL as 'not a serious cricket'
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 02:26:55 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC
WN:What exactly has Goswami done.  He has been found wanting from what I saw.  He is in a set up which is very player friendly and liberal if you consider RD and AK are real nice guys and even gave Jaffer chances when he is not wanted by his own Mumbai team.  Goswami should be sucking big time in the nets if not AK and RD would have brought him in and given him a good run.  Remember they basically are giving a free run to RU and brought Kohli up the order.  These guys really like to promote talent and Goswami perhaps still needs nurturing.
Agree with Rams here. Even in the two matches he played he was very scratchy. Also including Kamran Khan and Amit Singh after they have been repeatedly been cited for dodgy action is blasphemy. I am sure someone of Warne and Beery's caliber were aware of this and they still played him and got 1-2 wins based on their performance. It is tragedy to be honest and these are the instances which can be used to show IPL as 'not a serious cricket'

Define "serious" for me?
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 02:45:41 PM »
Add Appanna & Tyagi to the mix
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2009, 03:04:02 PM »
I am with ganavk. Kamran and Amit Singh- let them bowl legally and see how many wickets they can pick. Then we can add them to the list.

Sangwan despite picking wickets recently is not swinging the ball and has not picked up pace. He looked so good in the U-19 WC.

Dhawal Kulkarni is a useless bowler.

I don't Goswami is fit for this format. He cannot force the pace. He seems to be a better fit for the longer version. I am not even sure if he did well in domestic cricket this time.

Sudeep Tyagi is looking good, but MSD is not using him in the end overs. So don't know how well he will perform in the death..
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2009, 03:17:20 PM »
I am not too thrilled with Naman Ojha. He did not look in control in the one big innings I saw.

worth a mention : Abhishek Nayar, Ajinkya Rahane

T Suman has been the most impressive IMO
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2009, 03:25:08 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC


Bhatia?! Are you serious?! He's been playing Ranji for the past ten years. Maybe by emerge you mean, you have paid attention to him ;)
He's just hit the purple patch...otherwise his India ship sailed a decade ago.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 03:30:40 PM »
Jataki,Naman and Suman have been impressive for me.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2009, 03:55:14 PM »
Let's do some fresh talent spotting here. Dont go by U-19 or not.

Here's a start..

Jakati
Naman Ojha
Kamran Khan
Amit Singh
Bhatia
Srivats Goswami(again)

I also like Maqsusi and Suman of DC
WN:What exactly has Goswami done.  He has been found wanting from what I saw.  He is in a set up which is very player friendly and liberal if you consider RD and AK are real nice guys and even gave Jaffer chances when he is not wanted by his own Mumbai team.  Goswami should be sucking big time in the nets if not AK and RD would have brought him in and given him a good run.  Remember they basically are giving a free run to RU and brought Kohli up the order.  These guys really like to promote talent and Goswami perhaps still needs nurturing.
Agree with Rams here. Even in the two matches he played he was very scratchy. Also including Kamran Khan and Amit Singh after they have been repeatedly been cited for dodgy action is blasphemy. I am sure someone of Warne and Beery's caliber were aware of this and they still played him and got 1-2 wins based on their performance. It is tragedy to be honest and these are the instances which can be used to show IPL as 'not a serious cricket'

Define "serious" for me?
Not comedy ?
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2009, 03:58:03 PM »
Add Appanna & Tyagi to the mix
Appanna has been playing Ranji for quite some time for Karnataka and he has been impressive. I saw him bowling against Aus 19 around a 2 years ago in Mysore and was very very impressive. Marcus North was his bunny in that series if I remember correctly. Al though not veteran, Vinaya Kumar is also doing good for BRC
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2009, 05:18:47 PM »
What abput Nehra - emerging from the Ashes  ;D ;D
That too..

..but lets focus on the newbies for now

emerging from Ashes, alive and kicking and tormenting  [god] now  ;D ;D
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 06:48:54 PM »
no .. he's not ..
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 07:14:46 PM »
Punjabis played out Nehra today .... showing him respect and went after bowlers like Vettori in spinning conditions. I think that should be proof enough that he needs to be considered for the WC
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2009, 08:50:37 PM »
wah ! so all people whom punjabis respect should be in the world cup ! wah re logic !
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2009, 12:40:40 AM »
Maqsusi is major suck. Suman is just hit and miss, nothing special. Appanna - not international quality.

Only worthy talents from this IPL are:

Jakati
Kamran Khan (if he can fix his action and get some variety)
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 12:59:11 AM »
What abput Nehra - emerging from the Ashes  ;D ;D
That too..

..but lets focus on the newbies for now

emerging from Ashes, alive and kicking and tormenting  [god] now  ;D ;D
[god] is getting frequently tormented these days by Delhi players ;D
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 12:59:59 AM »
Suman is just hit and miss, nothing special.
Last year YKP was hit and miss :)
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 01:07:18 AM »
What abput Nehra - emerging from the Ashes  ;D ;D
That too..

..but lets focus on the newbies for now

emerging from Ashes, alive and kicking and tormenting  [god] now  ;D ;D
[god] is getting frequently tormented these days by Delhi players ;D
not tormented. just bored.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 05:27:49 PM »
Suman is just hit and miss, nothing special.
Last year YKP was hit and miss :)

but his hits aren't that big, are they?
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2009, 03:44:26 AM »
Suman is just hit and miss, nothing special.
Last year YKP was hit and miss :)

but his hits aren't that big, are they?
Flamy:
Want to revise your thoughts on Suman after today?

I think he has a limited range of strokes.. but I think he can be a handy 20-20 player (perhaps LOI too). He is a clean striker of the ball, bowls decently and is a good fielder.

BTW, even VS is a hit or miss player.. imo, 20-20 is all about who can take pressure.. this guy can and that is very important.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2009, 05:15:44 PM »
The new ones need to replace the oldies (not counting the retired or semi-retired from T20 people like SG,RD,AK etc)? What about the performances sofar of Uthappa, Harbhajan, Parthiv Patel, Ishant etc?

The surprise packages have been Nehra and Munaf Patel.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2009, 05:18:00 PM »
Suman is just hit and miss, nothing special.
Last year YKP was hit and miss :)

but his hits aren't that big, are they?
Flamy:
Want to revise your thoughts on Suman after today?

I think he has a limited range of strokes.. but I think he can be a handy 20-20 player (perhaps LOI too). He is a clean striker of the ball, bowls decently and is a good fielder.

BTW, even VS is a hit or miss player.. imo, 20-20 is all about who can take pressure.. this guy can and that is very important.


please dont compare VS with these guys...that's quite insulting to a man who averages 50+ in tests. just bc he has an aggressive style does not make him a hit-miss player.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2009, 05:43:21 PM »
I dont see anyone who has a chance of making the India T20 squad in the next year (Nayar, maybe).   All the rest dont replace anyone currently. Giving chances to so many Indian players hasnt unearthed anyone and made the quality of play a little more mediocre than it needs to be.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2009, 05:45:48 PM »
well no on eyet. but there are some "products" in the making. goswami, tyagi, suman, nayyar are the names that come to mind.

jadeja was already made last year but i hope he shines brighter this time around.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2009, 05:49:30 PM »
well no on eyet. but there are some "products" in the making. goswami, tyagi, suman, nayyar are the names that come to mind.

jadeja was already made last year but i hope he shines brighter this time around.

and didnt last year we have gony, dinda, etc?
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2009, 05:54:07 PM »
yep. gony didnt impress but i don think he got the right chances. dinda was never given a chance.
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2009, 05:56:59 PM »
Jaskaran Singh...for example, batted at #10 for deccan chargers...and didn't bowl.

Who wins? Jaskaran Singh for fielding? Fans? Franchise?
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« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2009, 05:57:57 PM »
it is ridiculous really ... i agree ...  >:(
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Re: IPL 2009 - Emerging Indian Talent
« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2009, 02:43:23 AM »
Not too many new talents unfortunately. 

Tyagi is the standout one in my view - nice clean action, good pace, extracts bounce.

Suman is on the fringe, he should be given more opportunities and Goswami too, I think he can be the next Gilchrist.

Ojha and the rest are not cut out for it at the top level. I also think the Mumbaikars - Nayar, Kulkarni and other inept players (Nayar is actually pretty good) will get a look in because of the Bombay Brigade (Gavaskar, Shastri, Vengsarkar, Manjrekar).
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