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[mm]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

[inoc]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

IMO.

Over analyzing the situation.

opinions differ.

[dextrous]

Maybe they just have a directive to make matches more interesting.

To me, the matches are entertaining, but the cricket isn't always of the highest quality. Sure, sixes raining and Yuvraj taking 2x hat-trick makes for entertaining cricket but also badly exposes the terrible bowling that's taken place at times and the lackluster fielding where sitters getting dropped has become commonplace. Of course, there are brilliant catches as well...but overall, cricket quality has jumped up and down.

[ramshorns]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

Make what you want of it

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Betting suspect Banjo comes to IPL

May 19, 2009 00:07 IST   
 
A key figure in the 2000 match-fixing scandal that rocked world cricket, Hamid 'Banjo' Cassim made a sly appearance at the Wanderers in Johannesburg on Sunday to watch an Indian Premier League (IPL) match before the media forced him into a hasty exit.

Cassim, who reportedly introduced the late South African skipper Hansie Cronje to an Indian bookie leading to the infamous 'Hansiegate' episode, walked into the hospitality area of the Wanderers with two ladies in tow, believed to be family members, to watch the IPL match between Kings XI Punjab and Deccan Chargers.

Wearing a white T-shirt, dark trousers and shades, Cassim took his seat and had barely settled down when a journalist recognised him and tried to rekindle his old acquaintance.

"How are you?" he asked the journalist and shook hands with him.

With other journalists also identifying him, Banjo, looked less than amused and repeatedly asked them not to pose any question, insisting he had moved on in life.

"I'm here to watch cricket, that's it," he said.

Just not interested in raking up his dubious past, Banjo insisted: "I am not talking about something I have been absolved of."

And Banjo made it clear this was not his first appearance in the IPL.

"I have been a regular here and watching many matches of IPL II," he said nonchalantly before going silent.

Minutes later, he made a silent exit, just as he had come, leaving the media in a tizzy.

Interestingly, playing in the Deccan Chargers jersey was Herschelle Gibbs, another Hansiegate character, who had deposed before the King Commission and admitted taking money from his late skipper for under-performing in an ODI against India in Nagpur.

Earlier in the IPL, much was made of Kolkata Knight Riders player Brad Hodge's presence in the hospitality suit with efforts to link it to match-fixing.

Even though Banjo claimed he has turned over a new leaf, his presence in the hospitality suit created quite a stir, questioning the organisers' effort to battle corruption in cricket.

Incidentally, the BCCI had earlier turned down an offer from the International Cricket Council  to provide prevention cover apparently because hiring ICC's Anti Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) for the cash-awash league would have cost them nearly US $1.2 million.

IPL Commissioner Lalit Modi , however, assured the organisers have put in place an efficient mechanism to deal with such issues.

[dextrous]

"I am not talking about something I have been absolved of."

haha...azhar.

[inoc]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

Make what you want of it

--

Betting suspect Banjo comes to IPL

May 19, 2009 00:07 IST   
 
A key figure in the 2000 match-fixing scandal that rocked world cricket, Hamid 'Banjo' Cassim made a sly appearance at the Wanderers in Johannesburg on Sunday to watch an Indian Premier League (IPL) match before the media forced him into a hasty exit.

Cassim, who reportedly introduced the late South African skipper Hansie Cronje to an Indian bookie leading to the infamous 'Hansiegate' episode, walked into the hospitality area of the Wanderers with two ladies in tow, believed to be family members, to watch the IPL match between Kings XI Punjab and Deccan Chargers.

Wearing a white T-shirt, dark trousers and shades, Cassim took his seat and had barely settled down when a journalist recognised him and tried to rekindle his old acquaintance.

"How are you?" he asked the journalist and shook hands with him.

With other journalists also identifying him, Banjo, looked less than amused and repeatedly asked them not to pose any question, insisting he had moved on in life.

"I'm here to watch cricket, that's it," he said.

Just not interested in raking up his dubious past, Banjo insisted: "I am not talking about something I have been absolved of."

And Banjo made it clear this was not his first appearance in the IPL.

"I have been a regular here and watching many matches of IPL II," he said nonchalantly before going silent.

Minutes later, he made a silent exit, just as he had come, leaving the media in a tizzy.

Interestingly, playing in the Deccan Chargers jersey was Herschelle Gibbs, another Hansiegate character, who had deposed before the King Commission and admitted taking money from his late skipper for under-performing in an ODI against India in Nagpur.

Earlier in the IPL, much was made of Kolkata Knight Riders player Brad Hodge's presence in the hospitality suit with efforts to link it to match-fixing.

Even though Banjo claimed he has turned over a new leaf, his presence in the hospitality suit created quite a stir, questioning the organisers' effort to battle corruption in cricket.

Incidentally, the BCCI had earlier turned down an offer from the International Cricket Council  to provide prevention cover apparently because hiring ICC's Anti Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) for the cash-awash league would have cost them nearly US $1.2 million.

IPL Commissioner Lalit Modi , however, assured the organisers have put in place an efficient mechanism to deal with such issues.

rams

in truth what do you make of his article?

[poondu]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

Did you see the six that Rohit hit over square leg? yeah that was fixed.

[keep-it-cool]

Look greed is human nature and one cant rule this out for purely sentimental reasons of honesty and patriotism and great game etc.

But the sheer magnitude of the event, number of players involved, stakes for individual players etc make it difficult to imagine that this is possible at a tournament wide level. The odd match or two is understandable. But there are so many matches that have been close or have had catches dropped, last over finishes, indifferent bowling or batthing that unless you have multiple players on board it is impossible to fix at that scale.

Besides why would any leading international player take the bait? He knows that even if one person squeals (probability cannot be ruled out if you try to take in so many players) his career is finished. And these guys make a lot more money today than they used to when the initial match fixing scandal broke. They have too much to lose. The IPL has too much to lose - the upside is not really worth it.

That is what makes me sceptical.

[sudzz]

What was Wilkin Mota bowling his first over of the match in over number 17/18 or so when all three front line bowlers had overs left and for a change had bowled well.

I thought that move was contrived and reeked of something other than captaincy.

I have felt it a few times across a few matches that there are things other than cricket at play but then again what do I know.....

[dextrous]

That is what makes me sceptical.

KIC, please don't worry about it until the International Court of Justice has ruled on it.

[keep-it-cool]

Oh I'm not worried at all. That is what I said no? I am skeptical that there is match fixing at play.

[broadbat]

I think we have to be clear about 'fixing' a match and 'fixing' a player. The former is very difficult and near impossible I would say in a game like cricket whereas the latter is more plausible. However given all that has happened in the past I doubt any international player worth his salt would get involved as he is anyway making a lot of money in the IPL and otherwise.
When the games are one sided we call them boring and when we have a few thrillers they become 'fixed'.

[dextrous]

However given all that has happened in the past I doubt any international player worth his salt would get involved as he is anyway making a lot of money in the IPL and otherwise.

This part I disagree with; some people are making a lot of money but many others are getting paid dimes compared to what some of their lesser contemporaries are making. Do you think Ponting would've been as eager to give this edition a skip if he were making 800k+?

[broadbat]

Agree but that has nothing to do with 'player' fixing.

[dextrous]

Agree but that has nothing to do with 'player' fixing.

it does if you're a conspiracy theorist!

[muthu]

we cant say the matches are fixed. Some people think so because the intensity and pressure of the match made some players to make mistakes even stars of this format. those errors are completly mistaken by the spectators. Hence dont think the matches are fixed. one more thing is to be added to this point that is nobody likes to spoil their career especially while they are being paid  huge money as  remuneration :

[broadbat]

Welcome to the forum Muthu.

[Libran]

we cant say the matches are fixed. Some people think so because the intensity and pressure of the match made some players to make mistakes even stars of this format. those errors are completly mistaken by the spectators. Hence dont think the matches are fixed. one more thing is to be added to this point that is nobody likes to spoil their career especially while they are being paid  huge money as  remuneration :

Welcome to the forum

Agree...unless the organizers themselves are involved...
Close finishes bring in the crowds and the ads

Dhoni not using Oram last evening seemed a little out of place

[ramshorns]

I don't believe it but after watching KX1 Punjab against DC yesterday I really thought Brett Lee was out to lose the game for them.

1) Misfield that went for 4 somewhere in the latter part of the game, could have been a genuine error but we don't see too many from Brett Lee

2) The last ball misfield, holy crap, and the rather limp throw back to the keeper

3) Terrible 19th over, again, Rohit Sharma was all guns blazing and hard to stop

4) Ryan Harris made no attempt for a 3rd run even though his partner was almost at the other end - I mean, hey, what do you have to lose just run and confuse the fielders

As I said, it is hard to believe  (and I don't want to believe it - the IPL is way too much fun) but such instances make me wonder !

Make what you want of it

--

Betting suspect Banjo comes to IPL

May 19, 2009 00:07 IST   
 
A key figure in the 2000 match-fixing scandal that rocked world cricket, Hamid 'Banjo' Cassim made a sly appearance at the Wanderers in Johannesburg on Sunday to watch an Indian Premier League (IPL) match before the media forced him into a hasty exit.

Cassim, who reportedly introduced the late South African skipper Hansie Cronje to an Indian bookie leading to the infamous 'Hansiegate' episode, walked into the hospitality area of the Wanderers with two ladies in tow, believed to be family members, to watch the IPL match between Kings XI Punjab and Deccan Chargers.

Wearing a white T-shirt, dark trousers and shades, Cassim took his seat and had barely settled down when a journalist recognised him and tried to rekindle his old acquaintance.

"How are you?" he asked the journalist and shook hands with him.

With other journalists also identifying him, Banjo, looked less than amused and repeatedly asked them not to pose any question, insisting he had moved on in life.

"I'm here to watch cricket, that's it," he said.

Just not interested in raking up his dubious past, Banjo insisted: "I am not talking about something I have been absolved of."

And Banjo made it clear this was not his first appearance in the IPL.

"I have been a regular here and watching many matches of IPL II," he said nonchalantly before going silent.

Minutes later, he made a silent exit, just as he had come, leaving the media in a tizzy.

Interestingly, playing in the Deccan Chargers jersey was Herschelle Gibbs, another Hansiegate character, who had deposed before the King Commission and admitted taking money from his late skipper for under-performing in an ODI against India in Nagpur.

Earlier in the IPL, much was made of Kolkata Knight Riders player Brad Hodge's presence in the hospitality suit with efforts to link it to match-fixing.

Even though Banjo claimed he has turned over a new leaf, his presence in the hospitality suit created quite a stir, questioning the organisers' effort to battle corruption in cricket.

Incidentally, the BCCI had earlier turned down an offer from the International Cricket Council  to provide prevention cover apparently because hiring ICC's Anti Corruption and Security Unit (ACSU) for the cash-awash league would have cost them nearly US $1.2 million.

IPL Commissioner Lalit Modi , however, assured the organisers have put in place an efficient mechanism to deal with such issues.

rams

in truth what do you make of his article?

I do not think there is match fixing in the IPL.

That is my gut feel.