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As all of you can see, there's a prediction league tab on top--it is a software add-on which was designed to run a soccer fantasy league and I've adapted it for cricket.

For IPL, we'll run two leagues--one for a "pot" while the other will just be the usual prediction with no $ involved.
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The rules are simple:

Predict team X's score:   10
Points team Y's score:   10
Predict winner correctly:  5
Predict the match score accurately: 10

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Please join so we can test the software out before IPL!!!
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Test case1 : Click on  Prediction league tab
Test result: Underneath behavior was observed.

An Error Has Occurred!
You do not have have permission to Prediction League 
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haha! that's a bad start. try now
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Yep. Works now
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Test case1 : Click on  Prediction league tab
Test result: Underneath behavior was observed.

An Error Has Occurred!
You do not have have permission to Prediction League 

I am getting this error too
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Test case1 : Click on  Prediction league tab
Test result: Underneath behavior was observed.

An Error Has Occurred!
You do not have have permission to Prediction League 

I am getting this error too

can you check now?
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yep, it is working now. thanks
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why are only 4 matches shown ? Where is the 5th match on April 17 ?
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I have absolutely no clue how to do this ..can someone elaborate with an example?
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Yeah, I'm lost too. Whats F vs A?
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That should be a legacy of the soccer league, goals for and against. Here I guess it will be the runs scored by each team.
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runs for, runs against...you select the first team's score, then select the second team's score...

click on predictions first

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i have made terminology adjustments for the n00bs
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So, winner is automatically predicted based what scores I choose for Aus and SA ? If so, what do these mean ?

Predict winner correctly:  5
Predict the match score accurately: 10

what does accurately mean ? within a certain % ?
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So, winner is automatically predicted based what scores I choose for Aus and SA ? If so, what do these mean ?

Predict winner correctly:  5
Predict the match score accurately: 10

what does accurately mean ? within a certain % ?
5 points if you predict Australia--Australia wins.
5 points if you predict SA--SA wins.
5 points if you predict draw--draw.

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now, 10 points if you can predict SA's score accurately (meaning EXACTLY)
10 points if you can predict Australia's score (EXACTLY)
10 additional points for getting both the match scores right
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5 points if you predict Australia--Australia wins.
5 points if you predict SA--SA wins.
5 points if you predict draw--draw.

I don't do this directly, but just thru the scores I predict for each team. I don't see a separate tab for predicting winner. Am I right ?

now, 10 points if you can predict SA's score accurately (meaning EXACTLY)
10 points if you can predict Australia's score (EXACTLY)
10 additional points for getting both the match scores right

exactly - hmmm. that is virtually impossible to do !!
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So, winner is automatically predicted based what scores I choose for Aus and SA ? If so, what do these mean ?

Predict winner correctly:  5
Predict the match score accurately: 10

what does accurately mean ? within a certain % ?
5 points if you predict Australia--Australia wins.
5 points if you predict SA--SA wins.
5 points if you predict draw--draw.

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now, 10 points if you can predict SA's score accurately (meaning EXACTLY)
10 points if you can predict Australia's score (EXACTLY)
10 additional points for getting both the match scores right

I think you should keep a +/-5% or so range for the scores part ..if that is allowed by the software ..else this is likely to be totally redundant in most cases
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Ideally the team you have predicted to score more runs will win. However if DL comes into play then...??
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A range for the score prediction is good but there must be an additional bonus for exact score/scores also.
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Ideally the team you have predicted to score more runs will win. However if DL comes into play then...??

 ;D ;D ;D
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5 points if you predict Australia--Australia wins.
5 points if you predict SA--SA wins.
5 points if you predict draw--draw.

I don't do this directly, but just thru the scores I predict for each team. I don't see a separate tab for predicting winner. Am I right ?

now, 10 points if you can predict SA's score accurately (meaning EXACTLY)
10 points if you can predict Australia's score (EXACTLY)
10 additional points for getting both the match scores right

exactly - hmmm. that is virtually impossible to do !!
Correct--you don't outright pick a winner; that is implied by the scores you pick.

Impossible...yes...most of the points will come through predicting winners...that's just a lottery option.
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So, winner is automatically predicted based what scores I choose for Aus and SA ? If so, what do these mean ?

Predict winner correctly:  5
Predict the match score accurately: 10

what does accurately mean ? within a certain % ?
5 points if you predict Australia--Australia wins.
5 points if you predict SA--SA wins.
5 points if you predict draw--draw.

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now, 10 points if you can predict SA's score accurately (meaning EXACTLY)
10 points if you can predict Australia's score (EXACTLY)
10 additional points for getting both the match scores right

I think you should keep a +/-5% or so range for the scores part ..if that is allowed by the software ..else this is likely to be totally redundant in most cases

No, that option is not there yet. Redundant--most likely...but cricket is such...and even % would make it messy.

Perhaps instead we can do "how many wickets lost"? guess would be 1 out of 10 then...
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Ideally the team you have predicted to score more runs will win. However if DL comes into play then...??

 ;D ;D ;D

:D:D ...i think such matches should be kept out ...not fair

Or extrapolate the score to what they would have scored for the scores part of the contest
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What about cut offs?
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What about cut offs?
right now it is right at the time the match is supposed to start according to cricinfo
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What about cut offs?
right now it is right at the time the match is supposed to start according to cricinfo

ok. so i can change any prediction that i have already made till the cut off date, i guess.
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What about cut offs?
right now it is right at the time the match is supposed to start according to cricinfo

ok. so i can change any prediction that i have already made till the cut off date, i guess.

yup
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Can you change the tab name and to something more meaningful like Fantasy Pick'Em ? Frequent fantasy players can relate to this better IMO.
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only 9 so far...c'mon guys, it takes 2 minutes
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how do i do it ... i went up there and could only predict scores .. how do i predict result ? or is it based automatically on difference of scores ?
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how do i do it ... i went up there and could only predict scores .. how do i predict result ? or is it based automatically on difference of scores ?

 :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:
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how do i do it ... i went up there and could only predict scores .. how do i predict result ? or is it based automatically on difference of scores ?

 :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:

 ;D ;D ;D
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??? ??? ???

you're implicitly predicing the winner.

the higher score is the winner...same score means you're predicting a draw
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??? ??? ???

you're implicitly predicing the winner.

the higher score is the winner...same score means you're predicting a draw
Appreciate the effort , but wondering which Idea is better, The JB Multi-Captin theory or implicit result deduction in prediction League.
P(draw)=  P(getting no's right) * P(getting other teams no. right) * P(both have same numbers).
What do you get  if you have luck of Millennium :  5 points   ::Whip::

Sirji ... Soccer hi rahne dete usko.. Can make a better guess with 2-2 or 3-3 goal .Even baseball may work. Not trying to be a spoilsport , but think, it is too random to put thoughts for it.
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??? ??? ???

your Q has already been answered. read the entire thread ;)
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??? ??? ???

you're implicitly predicing the winner.

the higher score is the winner...same score means you're predicting a draw
Appreciate the effort , but wondering which Idea is better, The JB Multi-Captin theory or implicit result deduction in prediction League.
P(draw)=  P(getting no's right) * P(getting other teams no. right) * P(both have same numbers).
What do you get  if you have luck of Millennium :  5 points   ::Whip::

Sirji ... Soccer hi rahne dete usko.. Can make a better guess with 2-2 or 3-3 goal .Even baseball may work. Not trying to be a spoilsport , but think, it is too random to put thoughts for it.


I'm not sure I understand. Most pick 'ems simply involve picking the winner; this is doing the exact same thing. Winner is obviously the team that scores most runs. So, what's random about it? Have you seen the page? I shouldn't say implicit...it is very explicit who the winner would be!

You get 5 points (and it can be 500 if you prefer) for picking the winner. What's random about it--you have a 50-50 chance. Are you confusing predicting the exact score with predicting the winner?
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Can score 500 ?

In this case, I am am not sure I follow it
My understanding is:
Pick a number from teamA : lets say  250
Pick another from team B : Lets say  249
Presuming Team A wins  by score 317 to TeamB's 145.
The fantassy team scores winning pts as the predicted team won.

how is this different from working with options like 0 and 1
If you want teamA to win, Select "1" in team "A" and "0" for teamB. or vice-versa.
Not understanding why we have integers till 500 ?
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Can score 500 ?

In this case, I am am not sure I follow it
My understanding is:
Pick a number from teamA : lets say  250
Pick another from team B : Lets say  249
Presuming Team A wins  by score 317 to TeamB's 145.
The fantassy team scores winning pts as the predicted team won.

how is this different from working with options like 0 and 1
If you want teamA to win, Select "1" in team "A" and "0" for teamB. or vice-versa.
Not understanding why we have integers till 500 ?


I think you're so confused that you're confusing me now :P

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Let's take the first match between Australia and South Africa.

Part 1: simple explanation:
If you want to predict an Australian win, you select a higher number for Australia.
If you want to predict a South African win, you select a higher number for South Africa.
In case of a tie, you select equal numbers.

For a correct prediction you get FIVE points (there's a little less than 50% chance of doing so, given that some matches end in a draw)

Part 2:
You're actually selecting the team score Australia scores (that's why there are numbers 1 to 500 as I didn't think any team would score more than 500...for Tests I'll change it to 1 to 1000.) Similarly, you're also selecting the South African score. Now chances of getting this right are not very high (and it isn't supposed to be)--because most points will come from predicting the winner. Any time you guess a team's score accurately you get 10 points for each correct guess.
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Can score 500 ?

In this case, I am am not sure I follow it
My understanding is:
Pick a number from teamA : lets say  250
Pick another from team B : Lets say  249
Presuming Team A wins  by score 317 to TeamB's 145.
The fantassy team scores winning pts as the predicted team won.

how is this different from working with options like 0 and 1
If you want teamA to win, Select "1" in team "A" and "0" for teamB. or vice-versa.
Not understanding why we have integers till 500 ?


I think you're so confused that you're confusing me now :P

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Let's take the first match between Australia and South Africa.

Part 1: simple explanation:
If you want to predict an Australian win, you select a higher number for Australia.
If you want to predict a South African win, you select a higher number for South Africa.
In case of a tie, you select equal numbers.

For a correct prediction you get FIVE points (there's a little less than 50% chance of doing so, given that some matches end in a draw)

Part 2:
You're actually selecting the team score Australia scores (that's why there are numbers 1 to 500 as I didn't think any team would score more than 500...for Tests I'll change it to 1 to 1000.) Similarly, you're also selecting the South African score. Now chances of getting this right are not very high (and it isn't supposed to be)--because most points will come from predicting the winner. Any time you guess a team's score accurately you get 10 points for each correct guess.

well technically, 12th man can still pick the prediction as 0 and 1 with 0 being loser and 1 being winner. The prediction will still hold  ;D
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