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Another *hi-family ratna ..
« on: March 17, 2009, 04:58:50 AM »
Baap ser, beta sava ser. Nice genes!!


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EC slaps notice on Varun for anti-Muslim speech

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http://ibnlive.in.com/news/ec-slaps-notice-on-varun-for-antimuslim-speech/87868-37.html

New Delhi: Varun *hi's hate speech against Muslims has landed him in trouble with the Election Commission sending a notice to the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader after CNN-IBN showed his speech.


The Election Commission will meet on Tuesday to discuss the issue and has also asked for the tapes to review his speech.


On the campaign trail, Varun had reportedly said that he will cut the hands of those who target Hindus.


"They have scary names - Karimullah, Nazarullah - its scary to see them at night. I have a cousin - my aunt's daughter - she saw a pamphlet which had photos of all candidates. When my cousin who is seven-eight years old, saw Samajwadi Party's candidate's photo, she said Bhaiya (big brother), I didn't know that Osama Bin Laden is fighting from your constituency," Varun said in his speech.


"This is not a "hand", this is the power of the lotus. This will cut the head of the Muslim. Jai Shri Ram. If anyone raises a finger towards Hindus, or if someone thinks that Hindus are weak and leaderless... if someone thinks that these leaders lick our boots for our votes... if anyone raises a finger towards Hindus - then I swear on the Gita that I will cut that hand," he said.


Varun had been sent a notice by the District Magistrate on Sunday but he denied the charge in his written reply to the District Magistrate.


"I did not make any communal comments. It's been misquoted," he said.


The issue came to light when a local group filed a report which claimed Varun had made provocative speeches with communal undertones during his election rallies. Varun is contesting from Pilibhit seat from where his mother Maneka *hi was elected in the last Lok Sabha.


Constitutional expert Subhash Kashyap said prime facie the speech is a violation of the Model Code of Conduct.


"Once enquiry results are out then only it can be decided if action can be taken against Varun *hi. The speech is a violation of Model Code of Conduct," said Kashyap
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 10:49:26 AM »
And his party's reaction (from Venkaiah Naidu) is : "so what, these things happen?"
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »
WN, I find it really amusing seeing you open such a thread. On one hand you want Modi to be the PM and on other hand, you find Rahul's speech objectionable. hmm, is it only because Rahul is one *hi family? did you know Modi's speeches are some of the most divisive and hate mongering speeches?
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 01:58:02 PM »
WN, I find it really amusing seeing you open such a thread. On one hand you want Modi to be the PM and on other hand, you find Rahul's speech objectionable. hmm, is it only because Rahul is one *hi family? did you know Modi's speeches are some of the most divisive and hate mongering speeches?
This is not Rahul ;D
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2009, 02:03:36 PM »
WN, I find it really amusing seeing you open such a thread. On one hand you want Modi to be the PM and on other hand, you find Rahul's speech objectionable. hmm, is it only because Rahul is one *hi family? did you know Modi's speeches are some of the most divisive and hate mongering speeches?
This is not Rahul ;D
ok ok varun if not rahul
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2009, 02:11:20 PM »
classic debating tactic, flute. Switch the subject.

Are you defending Varun?
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2009, 02:28:25 PM »
classic debating tactic, flute. Switch the subject.

Are you defending Varun?
:) now that you told about your tactic and since you know the answer to that question so I won't bother responding.

my original point about your dichotomy of views remains..sorry to say this, but it smacks of Hypocrisy for you to make fun of Varun and his views while at the same time rooting for a person who is a death merchant at worse and hate mongering, divisive politician at best.
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2009, 05:34:46 PM »
He says that the Tape/CD was doctored. I am sure India has enough technology to prove if he is right or wrong.
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2009, 07:41:39 PM »
He says that the Tape/CD was doctored. I am sure India has enough technology to prove if he is right or wrong.
Thank god those who saw him live were not doctored (looks like those genes have not propogated) ;D
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2009, 08:02:15 PM »
And his party's reaction (from Venkaiah Naidu) is : "so what, these things happen?"

lol...and they don't?!
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2009, 08:46:55 PM »
every damn politician is out to divide indians along different divisive lines be it religion, caste or region or language. in today's India, except may be one or two, no politician has the moral authority to criticize varun *hi especially not congress.

A Modi is smart and so invokes musshy mia etc. to prop up the genie of evil muslims and islamic terror etc., a fool like varun goes for direct hate filled speeches to land in trouble. A raj thackrey type is powerful enough to get away with mild slap on knuckles for such hate filled campaign..ultimately the joke is on Indians, emotional indians continue to be swayed by such issues and life goes on in India.

Having said that, I am really surprised Varun did not inherit none of the public grace and charm of the *hi family, looks like he has completely lost touch with the great legacy of the family. He is probably the first one in the family to talk such nonsense against the very grain of the Nehru vision of a plural, diverse,liberal India. I know members from this family cynically chose to divide indians to stick to power, but alteast as far as I know none held any such views personally.
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2009, 10:13:27 PM »
every damn politician is out to divide indians along different divisive lines be it religion, caste or region or language. in today's India, except may be one or two, no politician has the moral authority to criticize varun *hi especially not congress.

A Modi is smart and so invokes musshy mia etc. to prop up the genie of evil muslims and islamic terror etc., a fool like varun goes for direct hate filled speeches to land in trouble. A raj thackrey type is powerful enough to get away with mild slap on knuckles for such hate filled campaign..ultimately the joke is on Indians, emotional indians continue to be swayed by such issues and life goes on in India.

Having said that, I am really surprised Varun did not inherit none of the public grace and charm of the *hi family, looks like he has completely lost touch with the great legacy of the family. He is probably the first one in the family to talk such nonsense against the very grain of the Nehru vision of a plural, diverse,liberal India. I know members from this family cynically chose to divide indians to stick to power, but alteast as far as I know none held any such views personally.

I do not share your respect of this family, so I don't find this terribly surprising. At the end of the day, it is what you said ... every one is there to get a foot. The others in the family already have a plank to stand on, such hate-mongering will only hurt them. For Varun, it is different. Hence, he is adopting the stance that some successful allies of his party have adopted.
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2009, 04:41:04 PM »
In any case, Varun *hi has got free publicity, positive or negative !!! A couple of days ago, no one had a clue who he was, now all of India know every little thing about him ;)
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2009, 06:18:19 PM »
In any case, Varun *hi has got free publicity, positive or negative !!! A couple of days ago, no one had a clue who he was, now all of India know every little thing about him ;)

ya...even if his ticket gets taken away this time, he has become prominent and i'm sure will become a star campaigner soon
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2009, 06:22:12 PM »
In any case, Varun *hi has got free publicity, positive or negative !!! A couple of days ago, no one had a clue who he was, now all of India know every little thing about him ;)

ya...even if his ticket gets taken away this time, he has become prominent and i'm sure will become a star campaigner soon
and so hate mongering worked out for him.. hmm..even his mother now seems far better than this fool.
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2009, 03:29:05 AM »
The interesting part is his mother is Sikh, his father is son of parsi and hindu. So, he's only 1/4 hindu by lineage ;)
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2009, 04:39:48 AM »
The interesting part is his mother is Sikh, his father is son of parsi and hindu. So, he's only 1/4 hindu by lineage ;)

hes secular enough to say things :)

in fact, feroz *hi may not even be parsi
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Re: Another *hi-family ratna ..
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2009, 03:51:56 PM »
The interesting part is his mother is Sikh, his father is son of parsi and hindu. So, he's only 1/4 hindu by lineage ;)
religion is not race or ethnic related..there is no such thing called 1/4 hindu.
even if you consider hindusim to be a civilization rather than a religion, he can be a complete hindu or if it is a religion along the lines of Islam or Christianity, as a follower of it, he can be full hindu..so he has full right to be a hindu bigot irrespective of the religion of his parents or grand parents  :)

talking of which I am reminded of the number of times people without grace told me on my face that they are "pure" hindus since they are vegetarian..there is absolutely nothing more annoying than to think that some hindus simply because of their birth into a particular caste and hence begetarian by default ( not conscious coice mind you) think they are more pure. I faced a lot of such vegetarian fundamentalism from my fellow religion followers, including from the mother of my GF..inspite of all that I remain a non-veggie..may be without such fundamentalism I would have turned veggie long ago under *hi's influence.
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