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Ind vs NZ 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« on: March 10, 2009, 04:25:45 AM »
slightly older (by a few hrs) and expected news as well
http://content.cricinfo.com/nzvind2009/content/current/story/394550.html
Tendulkar to miss Hamilton ODI

Cricinfo staff

March 10, 2009

Sachin Tendulkar will miss the fourth one-day international against New Zealand in Hamilton on March 11 because of an abdomen injury. The Indian team management will monitor his fitness and he has not been ruled out of the final ODI on March 14 as yet.

Tendulkar sustained the injury when he was hit on the stomach by Iain O'Brien during the second match in Wellington. However, he played the third game but aggravated the injury during his innings of 163 off 133 balls. He was in visible pain and had to retire hurt at the end of the 45th over. Tendulkar went for scans on Monday and they revealed swelling and bruising.

The news is a blow to India for Tendulkar has been solid at the top of the order with scores of 20, 61 and 163 in the series. With him missing, Gautam Gambhir will open with Virender Sehwag and Rohit Sharma is likely to make a comeback.

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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2009, 04:29:36 AM »
slightly older (by a few hrs) and expected news as well
http://content.cricinfo.com/nzvind2009/content/current/story/394550.html
Tendulkar to miss Hamilton ODI

Cricinfo staff

March 10, 2009

Sachin Tendulkar will miss the fourth one-day international against New Zealand in Hamilton on March 11 because of an abdomen injury. The Indian team management will monitor his fitness and he has not been ruled out of the final ODI on March 14 as yet.

Tendulkar sustained the injury when he was hit on the stomach by Iain O'Brien during the second match in Wellington. However, he played the third game but aggravated the injury during his innings of 163 off 133 balls. He was in visible pain and had to retire hurt at the end of the 45th over. Tendulkar went for scans on Monday and they revealed swelling and bruising.

The news is a blow to India for Tendulkar has been solid at the top of the order with scores of 20, 61 and 163 in the series. With him missing, Gautam Gambhir will open with Virender Sehwag and Rohit Sharma is likely to make a comeback.

© Cricinfo

I am hoping that the DK gets a go ahead instead of an out of form RS. RS has been off color since the SL series and has generally botched up at least 4 to 5 chances.
I am also hoping that they will pack of MP once and for all. His grinning irritated me more than his beamers. How can one be so stupid ? MSD has to go for PO, if IS is not fit. PO is not going to be any worse than MP and hopefully will be inspired by the show of Vettori.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2009, 05:13:51 AM »
Given that all batters are in form, we should play Irfan as 5th bowler, replacing Sachin. Also, play Ojha instead of Munaf.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2009, 05:38:08 AM »
Yeah that will be the right move.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2009, 01:07:15 PM »
New Zealand v India, 4th ODI, Hamilton

India eye maiden series win in New Zealand

The Preview by S Rajesh

March 10, 2009


Match facts

Wednesday, March 11, 2009
Start time 14.00 local (01.00 GMT)

 
 
The last time Jesse Ryder played at this ground, he scored an unbeaten 79 from 62 balls. An encore would do just fine for New Zealand © Getty Images
 
 
 


The Big Picture

Two-nil down with two to play, New Zealand are in a position where nothing less than a win will do. The fourth game offers them a good opportunity to mount a comeback - the Seddon Park in Hamilton is their favourite home venue, Daniel Vettori is back to lead the team and they'll be up against an Indian line-up without Sachin Tendulkar.

To register their first win, though, they will need to do more than just bank on past record. The bowling attack - apart from Vettori - has been a shambles so far, and the short boundaries in Hamilton won't ease their task. What will encourage the home team is the courage they showed when up against a daunting target in Christchurch, where they scored 334 and clearly rattled the Indians despite a middle-order collapse.

India have already ensured they'll get at least a share of the series, but Mahendra Singh Dhoni will want more than that: a win in either of the next two games will give India their first ODI series win in New Zealand. Tendulkar is absent, but the manner in which the entire batting line-up has fired suggests they'll still feel confident of sealing the series in Hamilton.


ODI form guide

(last five matches, most recent first)
India - WNWLW
New Zealand - LNLNL


Watch out for ...

Suresh Raina: In five games in New Zealand so far, Raina has scored 178 runs in 112 balls - an average of 89 at an astonishing strike rate of 159. The absence of Tendulkar will probably give him the opportunity to bat up the order as well.

Daniel Vettori: Back after missing the previous game, Vettori's ten overs will be crucial in reining in the Indians. It's a must-win game for New Zealand; expect their captain to rise to the occasion.


Team news

The return of Vettori will be a huge relief for New Zealand, whose bowlers were battered all over the park on Sunday. Tim Southee was a victim of that bowling debacle, and has been dropped from the squad. Ian Butler, who is out with a thigh strain, will be missed, though - at an economy rate of 5.85, he has been one of the more stingy bowlers in the series so far. The changes mean New Zealand will try out debutant Ewen Thompson, whose left-arm fast-medium will offer more variety to the beleaguered bowling attack.

New Zealand (likely) 1 Jesse Ryder, 2 Brendon McCullum, 3 Martin Guptill, 4 Ross Taylor, 5 Jacob Oram, 6 Peter McGlashan (wk), 7 Grant Elliott, 8 Daniel Vettori (capt), 9 Ewen Thompson, 10 Kyle Mills, 11 Iain O'Brien.

The abdomen injury to Tendulkar has forced India to change their winning combination. Rohit Sharma is the likely replacement, though Irfan Pathan is an option as well. The other change could be the inclusion of Ishant Sharma, who missed the first three games due to injury but bowled in the nets in Hamilton. If fit, he will come in place of Munaf Patel.

India: 1 Virender Sehwag, 2 Gautam Gambhir, 3 Suresh Raina, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 Mahendra Singh Dhoni (capt & wk), 6 Rohit Sharma, 7 Yusuf Pathan, 8 Praveen Kumar, 9 Harbhajan Singh, 10 Ishant Sharma, 11 Zaheer Khan.


Pitch & conditions

Expect another run-fest. The pitch is likely to be a belter, and with the short boundaries, bowlers will probably feel the heat again. Some rain is forecast in the morning, but that should clear by the time the match begins in the afternoon.


Stats and trivia



New Zealand have an excellent record at Seddon Park, winning ten games and losing just once, by to Sri Lanka in 2001. The home team have won all three day-night games here.


India, on the other hand, have struggled with the solitary win - against Zimbabwe in the 1992 World Cup - in five games.


The team batting first hasn't yet won a day-night game at this venue, losing all three. In the last two ODIs under lights, New Zealand chased down 347 against Australia, and scored 165 in 18.1 overs in a ten-wicket win against England.


The last time Brendon McCullum and Jesse Ryder opened the batting at this ground, they clobbered 165 at more than nine an over, which is a record opening partnership at Seddon Park.


Of the 13 players from both teams who have batted in the series and faced more than two balls, 12 have a strike rate of more than 100. The only one missing out is Gautam Gambhir.


India have never won an ODI series in New Zealand. The best they've managed are draws in 1993-94 and 1998-99.
Quotes

"We haven't won the series yet. That's very important in every series we play. We want to win the series so tomorrow's a big game for us."
Gary Kirsten indicates there will be no reduction in intensity from the Indians

"The way we got off to such a great start in the last game put their bowlers under immense amount of pressure. They obviously came back at us but again we managed to put them under pressure at the end as well. They will be a little wary coming here knowing that the wicket's good and the ground's pretty small."
Brendon McCullum suggests another barrage of fours and sixes are in store at Seddon Park

S Rajesh is stats editor of Cricinfo

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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2009, 01:29:29 PM »
nooooooooo
play rohit ! he deserves it !  ;D
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2009, 01:29:54 PM »
of course irfan should also play. but he can replace the atrocious munaf.  [god]
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2009, 02:21:23 PM »
If Ishant can't make it, I am sure IKP will play in Munnabhai's place.
I read reports that Ishant is doing OK. Not sure how much time he had at nets though.
MSD would be looking to wrap this one and may put his best foot forward.
I thnk it will be also be a cautios effort from batsmen.  NZ bowlers seem to become fans of Indian batting line up. Mills has pretty good words about the line up . Mentioned SRT,VS and MSD (skipped YS and SR:) )


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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2009, 02:24:59 PM »
well if ishant plays ... maybe we can rest zak and play irfan. or drop praveen and play irfan.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 02:29:41 PM »
well if ishant plays ... maybe we can rest zak and play irfan. or drop praveen and play irfan.
why drop praveen?
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 02:48:27 PM »
well if ishant plays ... maybe we can rest zak and play irfan. or drop praveen and play irfan.
why drop praveen?
because the worst pace bowler perhaps in the country among the contenders can play.  So drop Praveen, Zaheer or Ishant or whoever to play him.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 02:55:50 PM »
well if ishant plays ... maybe we can rest zak and play irfan. or drop praveen and play irfan.

I won't prefer to drop PK for IKP.

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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2009, 02:57:36 PM »
well if ishant plays ... maybe we can rest zak and play irfan. or drop praveen and play irfan.
why drop praveen?
because the worst pace bowler perhaps in the country among the contenders can play.  So drop Praveen, Zaheer or Ishant or whoever to play him.

I don't think MSD shares that opinion. He may be worst pace bowlers for few. But he is an effective ODI bowler currently, at least this is my observation.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 03:35:53 PM »
I don't hink any bowler can be worse than Munaf !!!! Heck, even Jogi is better ;)

But I don't like the idea of playing Irfan as one of the 4 bowlers. He's an ideal 5th bowler/7th batsman in both tests and ODIs IMO.

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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 04:42:56 PM »
well said jfk ! munafs bowling belongs in only one place and that is the trash bag.  ::cheers::
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2009, 05:19:51 PM »
well said jfk ! munafs bowling belongs in only one place and that is the trash bag.  ::cheers::
as is Irfan's only worse. ;)
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2009, 05:34:52 PM »
well said jfk ! munafs bowling belongs in only one place and that is the trash bag.  ::cheers::
Only if Venky,Dhoni and GK agree.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2009, 06:03:49 PM »
Given that all batters are in form, we should play Irfan as 5th bowler, replacing Sachin. Also, play Ojha instead of Munaf.

Agree with that. Although in the even of IS begin fit, I would play him instead of PO. Bowling - ZK, PK, HS, IS and IKP as 5th looks fine. Bats - VS, GG, YS, SR, MSD, YP looks fine too. IKP be the 7th bat and 5th bowl option.

There is one trouble in playing 2 spinners against NZ. These NZ batsmen have shown flair in hitting the slow bowlers out of the park. A continuous attack on PO in unhelpful conditions this early in his career might be harmful for his psyche.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2009, 06:17:59 PM »
It is so agonizing to watch the game so tilted in favor of the batsmen. Honestly, if I watch one more series where the average score per innings is around 300, I am going to stop watching cricket altogether. Atrocious really...
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2009, 06:25:08 PM »
It is so agonizing to watch the game so tilted in favor of the batsmen. Honestly, if I watch one more series where the average score per innings is around 300, I am going to stop watching cricket altogether. Atrocious really...
Let us play 4 bats and 6 bowlers in that case.
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2009, 06:28:42 PM »
Change the title of this thread and let the game begin. Can't wait any more. slow day..
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2009, 06:41:31 PM »
why stop watching cricket ? stop watching this stupid pretentious games that masquerades for cricket. they call it one-day something ...
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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2009, 10:02:49 PM »

India has many match-winners








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This line-up has more firepower than its predecessors, writes John Wright


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I’ve seen it before and, boy isn’t it great to watch. Those were my sentiments when Sachin Tendulkar presented a gem of an innings before an appreciative New Zealand audience.

Sure, the home crowd do want the home team to win but they know enough about sport to understand that seeing a genius at work is a rare sight. Without having the anxiety of an opposition player eager to get him out, or of a coach hoping that he doesn& #8217;t, I reflected on what set Sachin apart.

Sure, the boundaries were cruelly short and the New Zealand bowlers bowled badly enough to deserve that fate but what made Tendulkar’s batting special was his deftness of touch. In a power game, he innovates and improvises and does not merely bludgeon the cricket ball.

Far too often, even during my time with the Indian team, Sachin’s ability and genius has been questioned. On Sunday we saw the danger of writing off a genius because the gifts he possesses might not shine as often as they do but, when they come to the fore, everybody else seems mortal.

Unfortunate


Unfortunately for the Indians, Sachin is not going to be part of Game Four thanks to a bruised muscle. The extent of damage is not known but I am sure that the Indians are hoping that he is well-mended for the Test series.

After his superlative knock, Sachin said that the current batting line-up was the best he has ever played with. I would have to say that this line-up has more firepower than its predecessors, including the one that took India to the final of the 2003 World Cup. There are match-winners right through the batting line-up, with Virender Sehwag, Gautam Gambhir, Yuvraj Singh, Suresh Raina, Mahendra Singh Dhoni and, of course, Sachin, all capable of turning a game around.

The strike rates of these guys, which are pretty stratospheric, will bear me out.

However, all is not perfect for the Indians on the field. Their fielding in the first 20 overs was pretty appalling, and Gary and his boys would know whether this was a case of complacency.

For the Kiwis, they must find a way to make early inroads into the Indian batting. They need to take two-three wickets so as to put some pressure on the middle order, otherwise the next game might see them lose a chance of at least squaring the series.

The batting is looking good with Brendon McCullum, Jesse Ryder and Martin Guptill showing good form.

But they need support from the lower order and the bowlers if they are to compete with this in-form, on-fire batting line-up.

Gameplan


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Re: SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2009, 10:13:22 PM »
It is so agonizing to watch the game so tilted in favor of the batsmen. Honestly, if I watch one more series where the average score per innings is around 300, I am going to stop watching cricket altogether. Atrocious really...
Do not tell that to people who are hung up on a player or two.  They will make it sound like a seaming steamy track when the real game lovers are just sitting there and cursing at the meek surrender of the bowlers because they have no where to hide or go. 

And in the WC 2007 when the whole nation was watching on a good sportive track while chasing 230 or so against SL all these bats went just numb and the legs froze to the utter dismay of the fans.  All the apologists have to say for a debacle of such magnitude when BD qualified at our expense is such things happen in sports and we need to take it easy like the poeple questioning them do not know. :)
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2009, 12:33:58 AM »
NZ win toss.. batting first

Short boundaries, good pitch.. we will put a big total. 320-340 is a par score on this wicket - Vettori
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2009, 12:35:30 AM »
MSD says it will be tricky for NZ.. we have scored boat loads of runs.. so they dont know what is a score we can chase ;D

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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2009, 12:35:50 AM »
Rohit in for SRT, IS for MP
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2009, 12:36:33 AM »
few showers this afternoon .. ouch
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2009, 12:37:40 AM »
Could you please get SRT name out of the thread title so as to avoid any confusion.
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2009, 12:38:08 AM »
boundaries.. 60 m North, South and East, 70 m West
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2009, 12:38:26 AM »
wooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

trash bag bowler is not in the 11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2009, 12:39:20 AM »
this means it might not be an entirely untolerable spectacle.

plus my fav rohit is playing  ::cheers::
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2009, 12:39:45 AM »
yea that is a surprise. I thnk it is a holi gift.
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2009, 12:40:25 AM »
what is a surprise ?

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« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2009, 12:41:34 AM »
wooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

trash bag bowler is not in the 11 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He should be sent back to India... the idiot was grinning throughout his stupidity. Pathetic
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2009, 12:42:08 AM »
what is a surprise ?
Munnabhai not in playing XI  ;D
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Re: Ind vs NZ 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2009, 12:42:53 AM »
actually in a way it is unfortunate that he is not playing. if he played there were better chances of him getting injured, sent home and a more deserving candidate like sreesanth or rp singh replacing him. of course he can be injured in the nets if desires ;)
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Re: Ind vs NZ 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2009, 12:42:57 AM »
Thx WN for getting SRT out of ODI4  ;D
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #38 on: March 11, 2009, 12:45:16 AM »
what is a surprise ?
Munnabhai not in playing XI  ;D

He he.. GouravK is blessing an ODI match today by wasting his time.
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Re: Ind vs NZ : SRT to miss the 4th ODI @ Hamilton - match thread
« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2009, 12:47:01 AM »
what is a surprise ?
Munnabhai not in playing XI  ;D

He he.. GouravK is blessing an ODI match today by wasting his time.
;D ;D ;D Will also keep us entertained while we waste ours along.
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