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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #160 on: March 09, 2009, 11:04:47 AM »
Your man also has the dubious distinction of failing miserably while chasing and letting the team down and part of a crappy 13 game final losing streak. 

A big load of BS !! A LIE does not become the truth if repeated 100 times !!!!
My BS is much better than any silly stuff you come up with on this DG.  What is a lie? That Tendulkar got out for below 5 in the WC final or below 20 while chasing in the WC 2007 against SL a modest total which could have taken India to the next level or the innumerable such occasions when he let the team down while scoring big in prior rounds before the big games and why is it a lie that he can retire and team will not miss a beat since Dhoni and YS are more reliable than him in tougher situations.

What is the BIG LIE is your imaginary 13-match final losing streak that India and Sachin has been a part of since 2001 !!! Oh, and I'm sure Yuvi and MSD are more reliable than Sachin in tougher conditions and at the bigger stage. We all know how they did relative to Sachin in WC2007 and the toughest situation after that, in CB series finals. And of course, what is THE TRUTH is that without Sachin performing at his peak we would not have even reached the knockout stages as shown in 1996 and 2003 (reaching SF and F) and his failure means we will be knocked out before as shown in 1999 and 2007 (super6 and prelim exit).
So if we win and made it to close to the Finals it is all because of Tendulkar but it we lose in the important games which made us lose all those Finals it is not Tendulkar but the team.  Winning CB series after failing on a bigger stage in WC07 is like saying I lost the war but I won a battle. 

I never upto 2007 questioned or critical of Tendulkar asking for his retirement because he was younger and was always performing albiet failures in imporant matches but still he had the age on his side and he always had the talent which I said many times.  But after that 2007 it was time and CB to me is not that big a deal looking at the bigger picture.
Yet, you do not balk at bringing up SRT's failure in 2003. It is strange that CB is not that 'big of a deal' when India defeated Aus who were the WC 2007 world champions, and in Australia no less. While the loss to Bangladesh was unfortunate, I don't see how that can be more important than the present in thinking about WC 2011.
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Though he can score runs and hold on to his place like a Gilly can even today his spot presently should be GG's for opener and Rohit should get the other MO spot or even a Kohli or any good and coming player keeping an eye for the future.  Yes I think YS and MSD are better options and critical than Tendulkar's in the ODI team today much like Tendulkar was in the 2003 timeframe.  Time for all of us to move on from the Tendulkar mania and stop being hung up.
Yeah right India losing to BD is unforunate.  This way we can dismiss everything and reconcile.  What is unfortunate is Tendulkar bent on opening at GG's expense a performing player.  Yes CB series win is less significant in comparision to the WC humiliation where Tendulkar failed to live up to his billing.
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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #161 on: March 10, 2009, 04:29:47 AM »
Your man also has the dubious distinction of failing miserably while chasing and letting the team down and part of a crappy 13 game final losing streak. 

A big load of BS !! A LIE does not become the truth if repeated 100 times !!!!
My BS is much better than any silly stuff you come up with on this DG.  What is a lie? That Tendulkar got out for below 5 in the WC final or below 20 while chasing in the WC 2007 against SL a modest total which could have taken India to the next level or the innumerable such occasions when he let the team down while scoring big in prior rounds before the big games and why is it a lie that he can retire and team will not miss a beat since Dhoni and YS are more reliable than him in tougher situations.

What is the BIG LIE is your imaginary 13-match final losing streak that India and Sachin has been a part of since 2001 !!! Oh, and I'm sure Yuvi and MSD are more reliable than Sachin in tougher conditions and at the bigger stage. We all know how they did relative to Sachin in WC2007 and the toughest situation after that, in CB series finals. And of course, what is THE TRUTH is that without Sachin performing at his peak we would not have even reached the knockout stages as shown in 1996 and 2003 (reaching SF and F) and his failure means we will be knocked out before as shown in 1999 and 2007 (super6 and prelim exit).
So if we win and made it to close to the Finals it is all because of Tendulkar but it we lose in the important games which made us lose all those Finals it is not Tendulkar but the team.  Winning CB series after failing on a bigger stage in WC07 is like saying I lost the war but I won a battle. 

I never upto 2007 questioned or critical of Tendulkar asking for his retirement because he was younger and was always performing albiet failures in imporant matches but still he had the age on his side and he always had the talent which I said many times.  But after that 2007 it was time and CB to me is not that big a deal looking at the bigger picture.
Yet, you do not balk at bringing up SRT's failure in 2003. It is strange that CB is not that 'big of a deal' when India defeated Aus who were the WC 2007 world champions, and in Australia no less. While the loss to Bangladesh was unfortunate, I don't see how that can be more important than the present in thinking about WC 2011.
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Though he can score runs and hold on to his place like a Gilly can even today his spot presently should be GG's for opener and Rohit should get the other MO spot or even a Kohli or any good and coming player keeping an eye for the future.  Yes I think YS and MSD are better options and critical than Tendulkar's in the ODI team today much like Tendulkar was in the 2003 timeframe.  Time for all of us to move on from the Tendulkar mania and stop being hung up.
Yeah right India losing to BD is unforunate.  This way we can dismiss everything and reconcile.  What is unfortunate is Tendulkar bent on opening at GG's expense a performing player.  Yes CB series win is less significant in comparision to the WC humiliation where Tendulkar failed to live up to his billing.
You are not aware of GG's preferences, are you?

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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #162 on: March 10, 2009, 06:38:27 AM »
You are not aware of GG's preferences, are you?

don't you know GG is saying that he prefers #3 just to be in Sachin's good books ;)
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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #163 on: March 10, 2009, 01:35:19 PM »
well id prefer GG to score a few runs ... whether at  1 or 3 !!  ;D ;D
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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #164 on: March 10, 2009, 02:58:34 PM »
well id prefer GG to score a few runs ... whether at  1 or 3 !!  ;D ;D
He is long due.
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Re: New Zealand v India, 3rd ODI, Christchurch
« Reply #165 on: March 10, 2009, 10:03:22 PM »
Your man also has the dubious distinction of failing miserably while chasing and letting the team down and part of a crappy 13 game final losing streak. 

A big load of BS !! A LIE does not become the truth if repeated 100 times !!!!
My BS is much better than any silly stuff you come up with on this DG.  What is a lie? That Tendulkar got out for below 5 in the WC final or below 20 while chasing in the WC 2007 against SL a modest total which could have taken India to the next level or the innumerable such occasions when he let the team down while scoring big in prior rounds before the big games and why is it a lie that he can retire and team will not miss a beat since Dhoni and YS are more reliable than him in tougher situations.

What is the BIG LIE is your imaginary 13-match final losing streak that India and Sachin has been a part of since 2001 !!! Oh, and I'm sure Yuvi and MSD are more reliable than Sachin in tougher conditions and at the bigger stage. We all know how they did relative to Sachin in WC2007 and the toughest situation after that, in CB series finals. And of course, what is THE TRUTH is that without Sachin performing at his peak we would not have even reached the knockout stages as shown in 1996 and 2003 (reaching SF and F) and his failure means we will be knocked out before as shown in 1999 and 2007 (super6 and prelim exit).
So if we win and made it to close to the Finals it is all because of Tendulkar but it we lose in the important games which made us lose all those Finals it is not Tendulkar but the team.  Winning CB series after failing on a bigger stage in WC07 is like saying I lost the war but I won a battle. 

I never upto 2007 questioned or critical of Tendulkar asking for his retirement because he was younger and was always performing albiet failures in imporant matches but still he had the age on his side and he always had the talent which I said many times.  But after that 2007 it was time and CB to me is not that big a deal looking at the bigger picture.
Yet, you do not balk at bringing up SRT's failure in 2003. It is strange that CB is not that 'big of a deal' when India defeated Aus who were the WC 2007 world champions, and in Australia no less. While the loss to Bangladesh was unfortunate, I don't see how that can be more important than the present in thinking about WC 2011.
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Though he can score runs and hold on to his place like a Gilly can even today his spot presently should be GG's for opener and Rohit should get the other MO spot or even a Kohli or any good and coming player keeping an eye for the future.  Yes I think YS and MSD are better options and critical than Tendulkar's in the ODI team today much like Tendulkar was in the 2003 timeframe.  Time for all of us to move on from the Tendulkar mania and stop being hung up.
Yeah right India losing to BD is unforunate.  This way we can dismiss everything and reconcile.  What is unfortunate is Tendulkar bent on opening at GG's expense a performing player.  Yes CB series win is less significant in comparision to the WC humiliation where Tendulkar failed to live up to his billing.
You are not aware of GG's preferences, are you?

Thing should be done with an eye to the future and not the past.
What are they? Last I checked he was the Indian opener in Tests, ODI's and 20-20 and seems mighty happy and performing mighty well there.  For example if I take Tests a yardstick to measure somone's real value it does put into perspective that he indeed is the guy for the role.  As they say actions speak louder than words and in Gambhir's case it certainly does though for the record he never explicitly said anywhere he does not like the opener's role and prefers No.3 over that.  Again I fully read his comments and I am aware of what exactly he meant.  So that does not cut it or pass the test.   Try something else to justify the injustifiable bullying of Tendulkar to grab Gambhir's opening spot despite fully knowing that it is Gambhir the player with more good years than him and he would serve the team's cause better than himself a washed up injury prone version.  At somepoint we all have to stop being hung up and face the reality and that reality is Tendulkar after 20 years of ODI career has not a whole lot to offer from the team perspective and not the difference maker he once was.
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