Topic: Aus Vs SA 2nd Test (Read 2030 times)

broadbat · « **on:** March 06, 2009, 09:54:54 AM »

Aus off to a good start.
106-0.

12th_Man · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2009, 02:13:12 PM »

http://content.cricinfo.com/rsavaus2009/engine/current/match/350473.html
Australia 1st innings R M B 4s 6s SR
PJ Hughes c McKenzie b Kallis 115 190 151 19 2 76.15
SM Katich c Smith b Steyn 108 296 190 16 0 56.84
RT Ponting c McKenzie b Harris 9 36 20 1 0 45.00
MEK Hussey not out 18 56 3 0 32.14
MJ Clarke not out 3 10 0 0 30.00
Extras (b 4, lb 1, w 1, nb 7) 13

Total (3 wickets; 69.6 overs) 266 (3.80 runs per over)

justforkix · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2009, 02:41:28 PM »

Harris gets Pup off a beauty - good fightback by SA.

New ball due in 2-3 overs - if they can get 1-2 more wickets, they would have converted a horrible day into a even day.

gouravk · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2009, 04:25:25 PM »

no more wickets. im worried about this.

ramshorns · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2009, 04:28:58 PM »

If the Aussie's reach 500 plus that would be awesome. With some of the injuries within the present team it is remarkable how well they are doing playing in SA just after losing to them. The learning curve is faster than expected.

Ponting deserves credit for this and this brings into prominence his leadership qualities

and it is not easy to rebound after losing the quality of Langer, Hayden, Gilly, McGrath, Warne and Symo.

Let us hope the Aussie brand of cricket and the spirit will dominate the world stage again and raise the bar for others to improve.

gouravk · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2009, 04:34:10 PM »

yeah this is a critical point ... the way this test will go will tell us whether the aussie revival is well on its way ... or was the last test just a flash of brilliance of mitchell johnson ...

dextrous · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2009, 05:07:46 PM »

eh, they always had good reservers...just that selectors liked hayden, a good god-loving man, and symonds, a demon child, a bit too much

justforkix · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2009, 05:08:25 PM »

A big factor is also indisciplined bowling from SA at the start of 1st test and also now at the start of 2nd test. Lack of any warmup or domestic games for SA could be a reason. Also, one must remember that pitches is SA/Aue are identical. So, neither SA nor Aus needed to do too much adjusting to play in Aus/SA. And finally, for some reason, Smith just does not the same guy that we saw in Aus.

It is a misconception if people think Aus will go downwards the WI way. Their cricket system is good enough not to allow that. What the retirement of the PSYCHOS have done is brought them back to the pack wheren games between the top tier teams, which is right now Aus, Ind, SA will eb competive.

The 2 scoreline of the 2 series put together is 2-2 with 2 tests still to go.

ramshorns · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2009, 05:13:32 PM »

Quote from: dextrous on March 06, 2009, 05:07:46 PM

eh, they always had good reservers...just that selectors liked hayden, a good god-loving man, and symonds, a demon child, a bit too much

Our equivalent of Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly Post-WC in ODI's and how they were liked by the selectors despite we having good reserves.

broadbat · « **Reply #9 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:03:57 AM »

Mini collapse for Aus. 350-8 now.

broadbat · « **Reply #10 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:52:26 AM »

352 all out.

broadbat · « **Reply #11 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:55:03 AM »

Last 10 wickets for 170 and the last 5 for 4 runs!

xiexie · « **Reply #12 on:** March 07, 2009, 11:27:02 AM »

SAF up * creek without a paddle... 2 down and Smith retired hurt...

xiexie · « **Reply #13 on:** March 07, 2009, 11:40:35 AM »

Quote from: xiexie on March 07, 2009, 11:27:02 AM

SAF up * creek without a paddle... 2 down and Smith retired hurt...

6 for 3 and as Robin Jackman says SAF is deep in the mire...

ganavk · « **Reply #14 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:07:46 PM »

Smith out for 2-3 weeks. Finger fracture.
and now Kallis goes off the field after getting hit by a short ball on his chin.
Series gone for SA ?

justforkix · « **Reply #15 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:31:52 PM »

This is some HOSTILE FAST BOWLING led by Johnson and ably assisted by Siddle and Hilfenhaus. This was what expected from Steyn/Morkel/Ntini yesterday.

Smith out for 2-3 weeks and hence the 3rd test - will probably bat in the 2nd innings, if required. Kallis requires stitches. Will he bat again in 1st innings ?

SA need 91 more to avoid follow-on. Aussies will most likely enforce follow-on, if given a chance. Gives less time for Kallis and Smith to bat again, if required

Game, Set, and Match for Aussies - The World Champs have come roraring back !!

gouravk · « **Reply #16 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:49:16 PM »

not willing to give up till my fav duminy is batting

ramshorns · « **Reply #17 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:56:26 PM »

Ouch....Ouch....That hurts.....That hurts.....I like sour grapes...

Ponting showing what a great skipper he is rallying a team which just lost a series to the SA at home to come back with a group of young bowlers to hand the the SA's the rear ends.

Let us hope they will win this Test. Lot of cricket to be played yet mind you.

gouravk · « **Reply #18 on:** March 07, 2009, 01:59:24 PM »

what hurts ?
duminy just played a couple of splendid stroke !

justforkix · « **Reply #19 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:08:13 PM »

Yes, Duminy batting beautifully amidst the ruins.

Kallis has gone to the hostpital for x-rays and if required stitches. Will come back to the ground and bat next in the 1st innings unless SA get all-out before he's back

ramshorns · « **Reply #20 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:13:17 PM »

Quote from: gouravk on March 07, 2009, 01:59:24 PM

what hurts ?
duminy just played a couple of splendid stroke !

You tell me.

Duminy. I hear thy.

justforkix · « **Reply #21 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:32:31 PM »

Some Good News: Kallis has 3 stitches in his chin, but is back in the dressing room and will come in next to bat

ganavk · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM »

who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.
one test/series does not make a great captain. We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.

justforkix · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:46:05 PM »

Harris GONE !!!!

And in walks Jack Kallis

12th_Man · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:47:59 PM »

The wound is still fresh. Can keep in mind while tries to dig in.

justforkix · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:48:17 PM »

Oops - Kallis GONE 1st ball - soft dismissal chipped to mid-wicket !!!

12th_Man · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:49:46 PM »

Quote from: justforkix on March 07, 2009, 02:48:17 PM

Oops - Kallis GONE 1st ball - soft dismissal chipped to mid-wicket !!!

Man.... Looks like I jinxed him. I have McDonald in my team so does not hurt that much.

justforkix · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2009, 02:57:44 PM »

The pitch has quickened up quite a bit from yesterday. Aussies should enforce the follow-on if there is an opportunity.

And Morkel gone bowled McDonald - 106/7 !!!

Interestingly, Smith sitting in whites in the dressing room with gloves near him, dunno whether he's wearing pads - will he come in to bat ?!?

ramshorns · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2009, 03:02:04 PM »

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM

who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.

Really!!!! Appreciating the Aussies. Point me to the posts and for each one you point me to I will show ten from the likes of you taking jabs. It is indeed a case of sour grapes.

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one test/series does not make a great captain.

Really. Thanks.

Who had a streak of 17 straight Test wins not too long ago. May be Dravid. I forgot.

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We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.

I see. That goes to show how much you understand about the re-building process. How many series has Ponting lost in comparision to the series he won since he took over from Waugh in 2004. Go do some research and come back.

justforkix · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:12:24 PM »

What an innings from Duminy - 73 not out out of a team total of 138 !!! Can he and Steyn repeat the MCG fairytale

ganavk · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:13:13 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 03:02:04 PM

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.
Really!!!! Appreciating the Aussies. Point me to the posts and for each one you point me to I will show ten from the likes of you taking jabs. It is indeed a case of sour grapes.

Quote
one test/series does not make a great captain.
Really. Thanks. Who had a streak of 17 straight Test wins not too long ago. May be Dravid. I forgot.

Quote
We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.
I see. That goes to show how much you understand about the re-building process. How many series has Ponting lost in comparision to the series he won since he took over from Waugh in 2004. Go do some research and come back.

Obviously I was not responding to your preconceived agenda based on some historical posts. In this post itself I can see JFK clearly appreciating the Aussies and so did I though not as directly JFK. Please show me in this thread 10 'sour grapes' posts.
what has Dravid got to do with this ? Please stick to the point or else you can find someone else to fight against. You know it is hypocritical sometimes to admire VVS, GRV and Azhar style of cricket on the one hand and then admire these bunch Aussied led by RP. Well..so be it.
In the recent past RP had lost two series back to back one against India and one against SA at home. If that's not series after series I don't know what else is.

ganavk · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:16:58 PM »

SA almost lost this test here and in turn series.
it is strange none of the batsmen, especially those who have grown up on these kind of wickets tried to pull and hook all those short balls ( except Duminy). They played it quite ungainly

justforkix · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2009, 04:22:05 PM »

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 04:16:58 PM

SA almost lost this test here and in turn series.
it is strange none of the batsmen, especially those who have grown up on these kind of wickets tried to pull and hook all those short balls ( except Duminy). They played it quite ungainly

I think SA have single-handedly been outplayed by Mitchell Johnson in this series so far - he's been close to phenomenal in this series. Today he's picked up Amla, McKenzie, Boucher and got Smith and Kallis injured !!! And consistently maintained a pace of 140+ whetehr ti is his 1st spell or last spell of the day !!!

And most disappointing thing is SA bowlers' poor start in both tests. Maybe undone by high expectations. And Aussies have fully capitalized on the bad balls bowled by them.

ramshorns · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2009, 05:23:41 PM »

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 04:13:13 PM

Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.
Really!!!! Appreciating the Aussies. Point me to the posts and for each one you point me to I will show ten from the likes of you taking jabs. It is indeed a case of sour grapes.

Quote
one test/series does not make a great captain.
Really. Thanks. Who had a streak of 17 straight Test wins not too long ago. May be Dravid. I forgot.

Quote
We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.
I see. That goes to show how much you understand about the re-building process. How many series has Ponting lost in comparision to the series he won since he took over from Waugh in 2004. Go do some research and come back.
Obviously I was not responding to your preconceived agenda based on some historical posts. In this post itself I can see JFK clearly appreciating the Aussies and so did I though not as directly JFK. Please show me in this thread 10 'sour grapes' posts.

Why it has to be this thread for me to make that determination? It does not matter if 'X', 'Y', 'Z' or the whole DG sing praises on this thread of the Aussies. It is what it is. Sour grapes in my estimate that many just cannot stand the Aussies and let me be entitled to it and rub it in which is part of my being on this DG.

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what has Dravid got to do with this ? Please stick to the point or else you can find someone else to fight against. You know it is hypocritical sometimes to admire VVS, GRV and Azhar style of cricket on the one hand and then admire these bunch Aussied led by RP. Well..so be it.

Dravid's name was brought in to drive the point home that there is a certain great laeader and there is Dravid who is good but not a great as a skipper. This series if Aussie's manage to win will give RP those great points and elevate him in leading a team from adversity after losing the series to a touted best team and go and beat them in their own back yard 2 months later. It takes certain positive talk and accoutablity to achieve that and RP seems to have accomplished that in the series this far.

Why has it to be hypocritical of me to admire Vishy and VVS and also the Aussies led by RP? I do not get it. I love the Aussies and the great spirit that they play the game with to win at all costs. Hard nosed and no non-sense approach. Great bunch are these guys. Vishy will always be dear and close to my heart for helping me admire this game to the levels I do today the way which he played to win and entertain.

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In the recent past RP had lost two series back to back one against India and one against SA at home. If that's not series after series I don't know what else is.

Yes he did lose 2 series but also won a bunch of them prior to that. In fact his losing % is one of the best ever in the history of the game which had skippers like Lloyd and Border and Taylor. As I said you need to better understand the re-building process and what it takes to win than you are demonstrating here.

ganavk · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2009, 09:37:39 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 05:23:41 PM

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.
Really!!!! Appreciating the Aussies. Point me to the posts and for each one you point me to I will show ten from the likes of you taking jabs. It is indeed a case of sour grapes.

Quote
one test/series does not make a great captain.
Really. Thanks. Who had a streak of 17 straight Test wins not too long ago. May be Dravid. I forgot.

Quote
We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.
I see. That goes to show how much you understand about the re-building process. How many series has Ponting lost in comparision to the series he won since he took over from Waugh in 2004. Go do some research and come back.
Obviously I was not responding to your preconceived agenda based on some historical posts. In this post itself I can see JFK clearly appreciating the Aussies and so did I though not as directly JFK. Please show me in this thread 10 'sour grapes' posts.
Why it has to be this thread for me to make that determination? It does not matter if 'X', 'Y', 'Z' or the whole DG sing praises on this thread of the Aussies. It is what it is. Sour grapes in my estimate that many just cannot stand the Aussies and let me be entitled to it and rub it in which is part of my being on this DG.

Quote
what has Dravid got to do with this ? Please stick to the point or else you can find someone else to fight against. You know it is hypocritical sometimes to admire VVS, GRV and Azhar style of cricket on the one hand and then admire these bunch Aussied led by RP. Well..so be it.
Dravid's name was brought in to drive the point home that there is a certain great laeader and there is Dravid who is good but not a great as a skipper. This series if Aussie's manage to win will give RP those great points and elevate him in leading a team from adversity after losing the series to a touted best team and go and beat them in their own back yard 2 months later. It takes certain positive talk and accoutablity to achieve that and RP seems to have accomplished that in the series this far.

Why has it to be hypocritical of me to admire Vishy and VVS and also the Aussies led by RP? I do not get it. I love the Aussies and the great spirit that they play the game with to win at all costs. Hard nosed and no non-sense approach. Great bunch are these guys. Vishy will always be dear and close to my heart for helping me admire this game to the levels I do today the way which he played to win and entertain.

Quote
In the recent past RP had lost two series back to back one against India and one against SA at home. If that's not series after series I don't know what else is.
Yes he did lose 2 series but also won a bunch of them prior to that. In fact his losing % is one of the best ever in the history of the game which had skippers like Lloyd and Border and Taylor. As I said you need to better understand the re-building process and what it takes to win than you are demonstrating here.

You could have picked anyone else and it need not be Dravid. Anyway..Dravid's record in test is not too bad compared to other India's captains. Many captains would have loved to win two series outside India especially against WI and Eng.
I agree GRV played for entertainment but never just to win. Winning is just a consequence of playing cricket in good spirit. Do you think any of these Aussies would have called back the player ( Bob Taylor in Golden Jubilee test)after an umpire have given him out ? you decide and in fact this RP and team would have forced it otherwise.

and appreciate if you stop being judgmental and keep on talking about understanding the rebuilding process more or whatever that means. if you think we don't understand may be you can provide more gyan how is this rebuilding is different from other rebuidling.

dextrous · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2009, 09:56:29 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on March 06, 2009, 05:13:32 PM

Quote from: dextrous on March 06, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
eh, they always had good reservers...just that selectors liked hayden, a good god-loving man, and symonds, a demon child, a bit too much
Our equivalent of Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly Post-WC in ODI's and how they were liked by the selectors despite we having good reserves.

no...hayden was 37 and out of form in a way neither sachin nor ganguly are/were

ramshorns · « **Reply #36 on:** March 07, 2009, 10:42:10 PM »

Quote from: dextrous on March 07, 2009, 09:56:29 PM

Quote from: ramshorns on March 06, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
Quote from: dextrous on March 06, 2009, 05:07:46 PM
eh, they always had good reservers...just that selectors liked hayden, a good god-loving man, and symonds, a demon child, a bit too much
Our equivalent of Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly Post-WC in ODI's and how they were liked by the selectors despite we having good reserves.
no...hayden was 37 and out of form in a way neither sachin nor ganguly are/were

I do not think Hayden was ever shamed or even remotely part of what Tendulkar, Ganguly and Dravid were a part of. The worst moment of their countries ODI history after losing to BD and being eliminated in the prelims. That takes some doing. At the time given where they were in their career all three should have made way for youngsters but for the selectors liking them quoting you on Hayden and Symo. Hayden won everything there is to win Cricket and in all conditions and was much fitter than any of the three Indians but was rightly dropped despite a poor run. Just a sharp contrast to the way each country runs its business which is very much evident in the results over the years.

ramshorns · « **Reply #37 on:** March 08, 2009, 01:41:20 AM »

Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 09:37:39 PM

Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 05:23:41 PM
Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: ramshorns on March 07, 2009, 03:02:04 PM
Quote from: ganavk on March 07, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
who actually said injuries are the reasons for SA to fall behind. Everyone here is appreciating Aussies and there is no case for sour grapes.
Really!!!! Appreciating the Aussies. Point me to the posts and for each one you point me to I will show ten from the likes of you taking jabs. It is indeed a case of sour grapes.

Quote
one test/series does not make a great captain.
Really. Thanks. Who had a streak of 17 straight Test wins not too long ago. May be Dravid. I forgot.

Quote
We have seen how bad he has been earlier matches when he had pretty much the same bowlers and batsman ( including Lee and Hayden and Symonds in team) and still lost series after series.
I see. That goes to show how much you understand about the re-building process. How many series has Ponting lost in comparision to the series he won since he took over from Waugh in 2004. Go do some research and come back.
Obviously I was not responding to your preconceived agenda based on some historical posts. In this post itself I can see JFK clearly appreciating the Aussies and so did I though not as directly JFK. Please show me in this thread 10 'sour grapes' posts.
Why it has to be this thread for me to make that determination? It does not matter if 'X', 'Y', 'Z' or the whole DG sing praises on this thread of the Aussies. It is what it is. Sour grapes in my estimate that many just cannot stand the Aussies and let me be entitled to it and rub it in which is part of my being on this DG.

Quote
what has Dravid got to do with this ? Please stick to the point or else you can find someone else to fight against. You know it is hypocritical sometimes to admire VVS, GRV and Azhar style of cricket on the one hand and then admire these bunch Aussied led by RP. Well..so be it.
Dravid's name was brought in to drive the point home that there is a certain great laeader and there is Dravid who is good but not a great as a skipper. This series if Aussie's manage to win will give RP those great points and elevate him in leading a team from adversity after losing the series to a touted best team and go and beat them in their own back yard 2 months later. It takes certain positive talk and accoutablity to achieve that and RP seems to have accomplished that in the series this far.

Why has it to be hypocritical of me to admire Vishy and VVS and also the Aussies led by RP? I do not get it. I love the Aussies and the great spirit that they play the game with to win at all costs. Hard nosed and no non-sense approach. Great bunch are these guys. Vishy will always be dear and close to my heart for helping me admire this game to the levels I do today the way which he played to win and entertain.

Quote
In the recent past RP had lost two series back to back one against India and one against SA at home. If that's not series after series I don't know what else is.
Yes he did lose 2 series but also won a bunch of them prior to that. In fact his losing % is one of the best ever in the history of the game which had skippers like Lloyd and Border and Taylor. As I said you need to better understand the re-building process and what it takes to win than you are demonstrating here.
You could have picked anyone else and it need not be Dravid. Anyway..Dravid's record in test is not too bad compared to other India's captains. Many captains would have loved to win two series outside India especially against WI and Eng.
I agree GRV played for entertainment but never just to win. Winning is just a consequence of playing cricket in good spirit. Do you think any of these Aussies would have called back the player ( Bob Taylor in Golden Jubilee test)after an umpire have given him out ? you decide and in fact this RP and team would have forced it otherwise.

and appreciate if you stop being judgmental and keep on talking about understanding the rebuilding process more or whatever that means. if you think we don't understand may be you can provide more gyan how is this rebuilding is different from other rebuidling.

I will let it go for now. Vishy is not relevent to this thread anyway and I would not have liked for him to call back Taylor after the umpire ruled him out in the 81' Jubilee Test . Good and bad decisions are part of the game and adds to the drama. Aussie way is the best way to go about the business. Professional and ruthless. No wonder they are the most wanted brand of coaches around the world.

ramshorns · « **Reply #38 on:** March 08, 2009, 11:57:49 AM »

Getting the thread back on track Aussies again proving they are relentless and will never take a step away from the pedal. I think still a case of sour grapes for some the way they are dominating.

And Ponting as usual leading from the front the best batsman of this century given the number of hundreds he scored in which his team won. Great stuff.

justforkix · « **Reply #39 on:** March 08, 2009, 02:34:43 PM »

Phil Hughes has been the biggest find !! The selectors finally shredding of their resistance to blood youngsters and this is paying off handsomely !!

btw, surprising to see so many lefties in Aussie squad always....

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