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[Total Members Voted:]

VS

18 (9.1%)

GG

18 (9.1%)

RD

9 (4.6%)

SRT

18 (9.1%)

VVSL

18 (9.1%)

SB

11 (5.6%)

YS

13 (6.6%)

MV

4 (2%)

MSD

18 (9.1%)

ZK

18 (9.1%)

IS

18 (9.1%)

HS

18 (9.1%)

MP

0 (0%)

Amishra

15 (7.6%)

POjha

1 (0.5%)

IKP

0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

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[gouravk]

whether it was wrong to pick rd in the squad is moot. fact is if now he is not picked in the 11 it will be against the principles of logic and i hate anything that is against logic.

And may I know what that principle of logic is ?!? It defies cricket logic to pick him in the squad. It defies cricket logic even more to pick in the XI !!

principle is simple - if someone who has played over 100 tests with an average of 50+ is picked in the 15 he has to be in the 11.

[gouravk]

yeah it shud be badri - that said i dont think either badri/yuvi is at this moment promising to be a test match great anyway - so it doesnt really matter.

There is more promise in YS/Badri than today's RD anyways

what a ridiculous comparison to make .... why should one talk of "promise" when it comes to a legend who has written so many glorious chapters and constructed magnificent monuments in the annals of indian cricket ?

you look for promises from ppl who are about to start their careers like badri and ys.

my defintion of promise is generic - what they will deliver on the field. And as per that criteria both YS and Badri >= today's RD

my definition of promise looks 7-8 years in the future ... 7-8 years down the line will ys/badri be a test great ? rd does not have that kind of future to promise ... so i dont look at him from that pov.

[justforkix]

whether it was wrong to pick rd in the squad is moot. fact is if now he is not picked in the 11 it will be against the principles of logic and i hate anything that is against logic.

And may I know what that principle of logic is ?!? It defies cricket logic to pick him in the squad. It defies cricket logic even more to pick in the XI !!

principle is simple - if someone who has played over 100 tests with an average of 50+ is picked in the 15 he has to be in the 11.

a principle devoid of any cricket logic, given that he's averaging 28 in last ~2.5 yrs !! hurts the team by virtually playing with only 10 players.

[dextrous]

yeah it shud be badri - that said i dont think either badri/yuvi is at this moment promising to be a test match great anyway - so it doesnt really matter.

There is more promise in YS/Badri than today's RD anyways

what a ridiculous comparison to make .... why should one talk of "promise" when it comes to a legend who has written so many glorious chapters and constructed magnificent monuments in the annals of indian cricket ?

you look for promises from ppl who are about to start their careers like badri and ys.

my defintion of promise is generic - what they will deliver on the field. And as per that criteria both YS and Badri >= today's RD

my definition of promise looks 7-8 years in the future ... 7-8 years down the line will ys/badri be a test great ? rd does not have that kind of future to promise ... so i dont look at him from that pov.

no but in 8 years they'll average more in the same period than dravid does in last 2 years

[gouravk]

whether it was wrong to pick rd in the squad is moot. fact is if now he is not picked in the 11 it will be against the principles of logic and i hate anything that is against logic.

And may I know what that principle of logic is ?!? It defies cricket logic to pick him in the squad. It defies cricket logic even more to pick in the XI !!

principle is simple - if someone who has played over 100 tests with an average of 50+ is picked in the 15 he has to be in the 11.

a principle devoid of any cricket logic, given that he's averaging 28 in last ~2.5 yrs !! hurts the team by virtually playing with only 10 players.

how so ? the fact that he was picked in the 15 despite his average implies that in the opinion of the selectors he has it in him to contribute to the team.

[gouravk]

yeah it shud be badri - that said i dont think either badri/yuvi is at this moment promising to be a test match great anyway - so it doesnt really matter.

firstly im not sure of that. secondly it is like comparing apples and oranges. if all along the point has been that dravid should be dropped from the 15 i can understand that pov. i dont agree with it but  i understand it. i cannot understand the pov which says that despite being picked in the 15 he shud not play in the 11.

There is more promise in YS/Badri than today's RD anyways

what a ridiculous comparison to make .... why should one talk of "promise" when it comes to a legend who has written so many glorious chapters and constructed magnificent monuments in the annals of indian cricket ?

you look for promises from ppl who are about to start their careers like badri and ys.

my defintion of promise is generic - what they will deliver on the field. And as per that criteria both YS and Badri >= today's RD

my definition of promise looks 7-8 years in the future ... 7-8 years down the line will ys/badri be a test great ? rd does not have that kind of future to promise ... so i dont look at him from that pov.

no but in 8 years they'll average more in the same period than dravid does in last 2 years

[justforkix]

England announce their XI

England: Kevin Pietersen (captain), Alastair Cook, Andrew Strauss, Ian Bell, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Steve Harmison, Monty Panesar

[12th_Man]

5-0 was the odi and that cant be taken forward to the tests.

Agree, That tests and ODI's are different to an extent. I however don't feel you can ignore some common cricketing points in any format of game. Both countries have the same core teams. you will face the similar bowlers, may be little bit differnet line. Watching Mat Prior, Do we think if he did not keep well in ODI's, will he change in a day? YS has scored some runs against Eng in ODI's  this does give him some confidence to score big against the same team in few days. Winning 5-0 was a plus for us, If we can derive some confidence from it, why not use it.

am sure rd will be picked..the question is who will get picked between ys and sb?logically it should be badri given the fact that we all know ys is not one for the tests atleast for the long run and against quality bowling,but then given our fickle minded public and the fast that msd doesnt like badri am sure he will be warming the bench

Well.. may be RD is picked.
The way i pick my team is watching how are the guys playing currently(from yesterday - 2-3 months or so). I hardly believe that if they were the best cricketers last year, they are in same touch today.  Because if we start using that Logic: imagine SRT vs VK. SRT has been refining his shots since VKohli was born. Thus no matter how much VK plays SRT will be X number of years ahead  in practice than the young lad. What if SRT loses his touch for few games ? This does not discount his contribution in past, but also does not give him a free license for eternity.
Any leader will always face tough choices, criticism will always be there by one faction or the other. What matters is does he makes the choice based on criticism or his belief.
Based on my limited info, If i have to make a choice: My preferance order will be YS,SB,RD .
Simple logic is who is capable of giving  best contribution to the team in Chennai match? YS can be handy with spin if the typical chennai pitch unfolds on day 4 and 5, Eng fear by his name. Nothing against SB based on his history, geography etc.. He can come ahead of RD. Something that may not happen. To get back to your question SB vs YS, IMO it will be YS

[12th_Man]

England announce their XI

England: Kevin Pietersen (captain), Alastair Cook, Andrew Strauss, Ian Bell, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Steve Harmison, Monty Panesar

Why so early ?

[poondu]

England announce their XI

England: Kevin Pietersen (captain), Alastair Cook, Andrew Strauss, Ian Bell, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Steve Harmison, Monty Panesar

Why so early ?

India have announced too. Yuvi in. MV, SB and MP not in XI.

[justforkix]

I got the feeling that both teams are going through the motions and both teams don't really seem to be interested in playing.....

[dextrous]

England announce their XI

England: Kevin Pietersen (captain), Alastair Cook, Andrew Strauss, Ian Bell, Paul Collingwood, Andrew Flintoff, Matt Prior, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Steve Harmison, Monty Panesar

Why so early ?

ya, this is very strange...normally XI is announced right before the game to keep the suspense

[justforkix]

Eng have almost always announced their XIs a day before games, be it ODIs or tests unless they have to make a game-time injury assessment.

What was surprising was India anouncing its XI.