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[LosingNow]

"Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him."


he decided when his son was one year old that he would be his vehicle of revenge? what an inconsiderate clunkhead! he has denied his kid a normal childhood to "rewrite his destiny"?

omigawd, what if yuvraj hadn't succeeded in cricket? parents like this shd be locked up or at least kept FAR away from their children.

even for a hindi(dex, yes, also tamizh) movie, this is ridiculous.

Seriously, pip.. you are reading too much into Yograj's melodramatic, OTT, filmi-style outbursts. He is clearly not polished.. and frankly, if I were to hazard a guess, thinks this is the best way to demonstrate to the rest of his world his love for his kid. I'm sure even Yuvraj is chuckling at these articles and going that "his old man has lost it". Some parents are more cartoonish than "evil".

BTW, I am not justifying Yograj's behavior (it is ridiculous).. just laying out my view of the context .. and suggesting that under the circumstances this may not be as bad as it looks.

[inoc]

Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.

we need not be concerned or worried about Yogi's emotional status or circumstances. It is entirely his prerogative. I find no reason to comment or ridicule his own situation.
But, what really concerns me is the effect this over the top parenthood will have on a cricketing talent like Yuvi. Going by Yogi's interviews, it is actually quite possible for Yogi to have a negative impact on Yuvi.

wow

our culture takes a backstep now. 

[pipsqueak]

Not revenge related .... but Andre Agassi's childhood was similarly influenced by his pappi. He claims he had tennis balls hanging over his crib and improved his reflexes right then!

yes - i've read about it.

i do wonder about the obsessive tennis parents too - we only hear of the success stories and all the early trauma the child *may* have undergone seems irrelevant and even "worth it".

how many kids go through such torture/pressure from parents and not make it? what becomes of them?

[WicketView]

"Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him."


he decided when his son was one year old that he would be his vehicle of revenge? what an inconsiderate clunkhead! he has denied his kid a normal childhood to "rewrite his destiny"?

omigawd, what if yuvraj hadn't succeeded in cricket? parents like this shd be locked up or at least kept FAR away from their children.

even for a hindi(dex, yes, also tamizh) movie, this is ridiculous.

Seriously, pip.. you are reading too much into Yograj's melodramatic, OTT, filmi-style outbursts. He is clearly not polished.. and frankly, if I were to hazard a guess, thinks this is the best way to demonstrate to the rest of his world his love for his kid. I'm sure even Yuvraj is chuckling at these articles and going that "his old man has lost it". Some parents are more cartoonish than "evil".

BTW, I am not justifying Yograj's behavior (it is ridiculous).. just laying out my view of the context .. and suggesting that under the circumstances this may not be as bad as it looks.

How are you sure of that? How do you know that this does not add stress to Yuvraj, or make him the butt of sledging? Or create trouble when Yograj issues statements like Yuvi is hurt that the captaincy was given to MSD?

Yuvraj used to be good at some other sport, which he played. Yograj stopped that. So, do you agree that the context is not enough to treat someone in this way?

[inoc]

Not revenge related .... but Andre Agassi's childhood was similarly influenced by his pappi. He claims he had tennis balls hanging over his crib and improved his reflexes right then!

yes - i've read about it.

i do wonder about the obsessive tennis parents too - we only hear of the success stories and all the early trauma the child *may* have undergone seems irrelevant and even "worth it".

how many kids go through such torture/pressure from parents and not make it? what becomes of them?

i agree with you pips

we only see the success stories.

parental pressure is nothing but parental aspiration which parents were not able to achieve, for whatever circumstances. they transfer it to their children, YS may be the lucky one but behind him are millions of failures.

parental bullying is wrong whether you are successful at the end of it or not.

[pipsqueak]

Not revenge related .... but Andre Agassi's childhood was similarly influenced by his pappi. He claims he had tennis balls hanging over his crib and improved his reflexes right then!

yes - i've read about it.

i do wonder about the obsessive tennis parents too - we only hear of the success stories and all the early trauma the child *may* have undergone seems irrelevant and even "worth it".

how many kids go through such torture/pressure from parents and not make it? what becomes of them?

i agree with you pips

we only see the success stories.

parental pressure is nothing but parental aspiration which parents were not able to achieve, for whatever circumstances. they transfer it to their children, YS may be the lucky one but behind him are millions of failures.

parental bullying is wrong whether you are successful at the end of it or not.

in some cases, it may be for vicarious pleasure but in other cases, it may simply be for financial reasons. after-all, a top-notch professional tennis player earns a lot of money.

[keep-it-cool]

Yuvi didn't decide that...Yogi did

Yogi does not agree with you

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/360943.cms

It was Yuvraj's decision that we live separately as a family. He felt it would give us the time and space we needed to realise each other's worth.

[RicePlateReddy]

It was Yuvraj's decision that we live separately as a family. He felt it would give us the time and space we needed to realise each other's worth.

Given the way his father breathes down his neck, he wanted some space and privacy with his women - isn't that obvious

[Blwe_torch]

Somehow I appreciate his honesty

[keep-it-cool]

It was Yuvraj's decision that we live separately as a family. He felt it would give us the time and space we needed to realise each other's worth.

Given the way his father breathes down his neck, he wanted some space and privacy with his women - isn't that obvious

He He ... you may be right .. sample these statements

a) Cricket hi teri life, cricket hi teri aashiqui

b) Yuvraj will not marry till he scores 10,000 runs in both tests and ODIs 

[Blwe_torch]

from wiki~

Yograj made his first-class debut in the 1976-1977 season, representing Punjab cricket team and Haryana cricket team during his first class career. That year, he played for a Combined Universities team against the English cricket team (MCC).

Yograj made his first Indian team on the 1980 ODI tour to Australia for the Benson & Hedges World Series, which involved Australia and New Zealand. He had a modest record, taking four wickets in total at an average of 46.5 with his best figures being 2/44 on debut against New Zealand at the Gabba. He made just one run in his six matches, at an average of 0.50.

In the 1980-81 season, he was selected in the Indian team to tour New Zealand, playing two further ODI matches. Yograj played in the First Test against New Zealand in which he opened the bowling with Kapil Dev. He took the wicket of future Indian coach John Wright with a bouncer, but was then concussed when he missed an aerial ball which hit him in the eye whilst fielding at fine leg. After bowling for the rest of the innings with one eye, he was injured and did not bowl in the second innings, although he still batted at No. 11. He did not play International cricket again, and cited the fact that his father never saw him represent India in a home match as a factor in his death soon after. Yograj retired from first-class cricket in 1985, and cited his failed career as his motivation in driving and coaching his son Yuvraj Singh to become an international cricketer.

After his retirement from cricket he became an actor, appearing primarily in Punjabi films. He has appeared in about 150 films. He is best known as a villain for his performance in “Badla Jatti Da”. His son Yuvraj Singh is a current member of the Indian cricket team.

 
2004 Singh was sentenced to six months in jail for "negligent and rash driving" in respect of an accident in 2000 in Chandigarh in which a scooter rider was seriously injured. Yograj was one of the accused in Jessica Lal murder case, when the celebrity bar-tender was shot inside a crowded south Delhi restaurant. Yograj was alleged to have helped the main accused to flee, and later helped him to disappear for a few days.

Somehow...this bland description in Wikipedia do not properly show up BCCI's politicking and their other corrupt practices which ruined Yograj's career.

[keep-it-cool]

Wow...the Yograj & Yuvraj thread in the related topics section also has some quotable quotes!!

[RicePlateReddy]

Somehow...this bland description in Wikipedia do not properly show up BCCI's politicking and their other corrupt practices which ruined Yograj's career.

Proof, details or more substantiation needed, blwe. His FC record looks rather mediocre. There are a lot if Indian pace bowlers with far better domestic credentials than him who went completely ignored - that doesn't justify his treatment, but he seems to claim some grand conspiracy theory. Some guy who says his 90 year old father died because his son was dropped needs some therapy.

[Blwe_torch]

Wow...the Yograj & Yuvraj thread in the related topics section also has some quotable quotes!!

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