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Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« on: November 18, 2008, 06:01:08 AM »
I knew one was coming ..this actually is more like a column and was published before the second ODI - imagine what this would have looked like after back to back centuries!!

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page=article&sectid=59&contentid=200811162008111603382617021ca02e8&sectxslt=section

It’s been times of turmoil not only for Yuvraj but for all of us. I have never seen my son so depressed. He was feeling down and forlorn. He was being vilified by all and sundry; his commitment was being questioned.

I could sense a palpable indifference from our near ones as well. It seemed the whole world had turned against us. Before the first one-day at Rajkot, Yuvraj asked me, “Dad, I love everyone. What have I done to deserve all this?”

I had to shake him up. I told him, “Yeh jo baap ki pagdi hain na, iski bahut kimat hain.” If not for anything else he had to play for me. Yuvraj looked into my eyes and hugged me. I asked him if he was ready. He was and I could see it.

Ancient texts have it that those destined for great deeds have to pass through fire, front up to all kinds of obstacles. It can never, never be easy for them.

I told Yuvraj that when the engineer up there decides to give, he will shower so much that you wouldn’t even realise what is happening. The hundred at Rajkot, and particularly the way he got it, should only strengthen his faith. Sar jhukao sirf khuda ke samne.

What wrong has he done?

I wish I knew why the media and former Indian cricketers paint Yuvraj in black at every conceivable opportunity. Just what wrong has he done? Show me one player who hasn’t suffered the vagaries of form. Virender Sehwag was out of the side for nearly a year. Even Sachin Tendulkar had to endure a lean period, and now Rahul Dravid is going through the worst phase of his career.

I have often been asked why Yuvraj hasn’t cemented his place in the Test team after being around for eight years. Think of India’s batting order and you will have the answer. Who could he have possibly replaced? I still believe that Yuvraj has a bright future in the Tests. Michael Hussey was initiated to Tests when he was 30. That doesn’t make him any less successful.

And we must not forget that Yuvraj hasn’t really got a long run. In Australia he had to make way after a few failures. I am not even talking about the bad decisions and some of the exceptional catches that did him in.

And Yuvraj was not the only one who failed against Ajantha Mendis in Sri Lanka. MS Dhoni and Suresh Raina obviously had a game plan: rotate the strike and step out occasionally. But Yuvraj is different in the sense that when a bowler is dominating him, he wants to counter-attack. I had told him that he should not allow Mendis to settle down but it didn’t work out that way. I would like to see Mendis bowl to Yuvraj on a true wicket.

Also, when you play cricket day in and day out some errors are bound to creep in. I realised that Yuvraj’s head position was not always correct. It was tilting a bit which was impeding the smooth downswing of his bat.

“He has worked hard on that. Of late I have urging him, “Son, you will be better off if you played in front of the pad. You will be able to control your head movements better.”

His back-foot can be more pronounced but the ligament tear and a spate of injuries did him no good. But if he can smash a hundred with a stiff back, imagine what he would have done had he been fully fit.

When God blesses you with talent, he doesn’t take it away overnight. With a bit of love and affection Yuvraj could have been redeemed much earlier. Maybe Yuvraj needed a friend, a mentor. Maybe with the right guiding hand, Vinod Kambli too wouldn’t have had to live with an unfulfilled career. Maybe this is too much to expect in India.

Yuvraj still works hard at his game; and I can vouch for it. I had played at a level decent enough to comment on how it works in our country. The same people who are baying for my son’s blood — and I do not want to single them out in print — had cast aspersions on me during my playing days. “Indian cricket mein koi kisi ka dost nahin,” trust me when I say this.

I have told Yuvraj that from now on cricket is his lifeblood. Cricket hi dost, cricket hi teri aashiqui. After he is done with it, he can get married, have children, do whatever he wants to. But now the game alone should matter.

You will see a different Yuvraj from here on. I will tell you why he had restrained himself during the post-match presentation at Rajkot.

I told him that he shouldn’t even indulge in jokes, lest he is misunderstood again. Say the sweet good-mornings, good-evenings, a thank-you after getting a hundred and retreat to your room.

Like a demanding father, now I want him to get a double hundred. Because it is Yuvraj I am not being unreasonable. The hundred at Rajkot is a good omen. Truly he won hearts. Love you, son.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2008, 06:11:39 AM »
indeed - God has not taken away Yograj's talent.

"Yuvraj looked into my eyes and hugged me. I asked him if he was ready. He was and I could see it"

ps: does deepika mean fire?
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2008, 06:12:55 AM »
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Ancient texts have it that those destined for great deeds have to pass through fire, front up to all kinds of obstacles. It can never, never be easy for them.


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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2008, 06:20:51 AM »
indeed - God has not taken away Yograj's talent.

"Yuvraj looked into my eyes and hugged me. I asked him if he was ready. He was and I could see it"

ps: does deepika mean fire?
No doubt the theme from 'Chariots of Fire' was playing in the background.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2008, 06:42:33 AM »
he's always reminded me of mary pierce's dad
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2008, 07:52:41 AM »
Theek hai.. father is a bit OTT. Parents are expected to be emotional about their kids.

The good thing is that Yuvi has channeled is POed-ness in the right way.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2008, 11:37:55 AM »
god does not take away talent....he does not take away weaknesses too
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2008, 11:59:11 AM »
I had always been a fan of Yograj Singh...during my college days. He visited our PU Campus a few times to help the bowlers.......during the tournaments. ::cheers::
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2008, 02:26:52 PM »
I had always been a fan of Yograj Singh.
It shows :P ::Whip::
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2008, 04:29:57 PM »
I had always been a fan of Yograj Singh.
It shows :P ::Whip::

Kya bowler tha!.........scorching pace :notworthy: :notworthy:...I have never seen anything like that in my life........and I am a huge fan of Kapil too...........and I have seen him bowl.

Yograj was a wanton wastage by the Indian politico-cricket system.................ppl demanded free-petrol from his petrol pump, just to ensure that he plays for India...........I have never seen a more massive waste of talent than Yogi's.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 05:35:33 PM »
I don't know about Yuvraj but Yograj will definitely come out with an autobiography sooner or later.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 05:54:23 PM »
I don't know about Yuvraj but Yograj will definitely come out with an autobiography sooner or later.

I don't think, he has those Aussie traits.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 10:53:09 AM »
Here is an old article by Yograj ... really, God does not take away talent :D

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/oct/21yograj.htm

I breathe through my son: Yograj Singh

Faisal Shariff | October 21, 2003 11:26 IST

The Mohali Test match was very special for Yograj Singh, the man who made his Test debut against New Zealand in 1981 and then never played another Test for India. Twenty-two years later, his son also earned his maiden Test cap against New Zealand. Yuvraj Singh managed just 20 in his first Test innings, but those runs mattered much to his father.

In his own words, Yograj expresses what it meant to see his son don the Indian Test cap:

Today was a very emotional day for me. I don't know how many people will understand what I feel. Years ago somebody snatched my right to play for the country. I lived this game all my life and then someone who was afraid that I would take his place in the team snatched it from me. These so-called living legends took the life out of my soul. The hurt they have caused will go with me to my grave.

I have only bad memories of the only Test I ever played. I got [current India coach] John Wright out in my second over with a bouncer. I was fielding at fine leg when John Reid pulled Kapil Dev and the ball flew to me. I tripped over a slight bump near the boundary and the ball hit my left eye. Within five minutes I was bowling with one eye. I bowled ten overs with one eye.

On the third day I tore my neck muscles while doing push-ups and still faced Richard Hadlee with a collar. I was in hospital for two days after that. All I played was a day-and-a-half in that Test match. After that they chucked me out of the team, then the state side, and that was the end of my career.

I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

I had bought a suit and binoculars for my father in New Zealand hoping he would come in that suit to watch me play for India when I played at home. But it didn't happen. I burnt all my bats that day and said that my career has ended. Cricket destroyed my life.

Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him.

I didn't go to the stadium on Sunday [the fourth day of the second Test]. I will only go the day he becomes a legend like Vivian Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, or Clive Lloyd. I will wear the suit that I bought for my father to the stadium. And I wish all those people who ruined my career are alive.

He [Yuvraj] called me after the match [on Day 4]. He told me he was very disappointed and that he was desperate to make a hundred and help India avoid the follow-on. I told him that the ball that dismissed him was the only good ball [Daryl] Tuffey bowled all day. I think he batted beautifully. Had he stayed on for another hour, the New Zealand bowlers would have been in trouble. What I liked about him was the flag on his helmet. It shows that a man belongs to his country.

Yuvraj's mother is a wonderful person. I thank her for giving me Yuvraj.

My son will be a world champion. I breathe through my son. He keeps me alive!
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 11:12:29 AM »
which living legend he is talking about ?
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 11:45:47 AM »
Kapil Dev  to Debasish Mohanty... could be anybody

Anyways..he comes out as a person who is very hurt and adds a lot of drama to that hurt
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 12:38:37 PM »
Kapil Dev  to Debasish Mohanty... could be anybody

Anyways..he comes out as a person who is very hurt and adds a lot of drama to that hurt

the drama should come automatically given that he has acted in over 100 Punjabi films and some Hindi film called Insaaf ki Devi :D
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 01:33:37 PM »
Indian news channels are like 100 Fox News channels in a full O'Reilly loop.

After ODI 2 one of the channels kept repeating the headline 'Vasool Kar Li Kagaan. Angrezon ko kar diya (something)'.

I have never seen such hype even on Fox  news. Heck I havent seen such hype even on this DG for Ganguly. Yeh to Gangulians ke bhi baap hain :)
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 01:37:19 PM »
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I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

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I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

strong swimmers...!

yup, his dad seems to have lived well into the nineties
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2008, 02:32:43 PM »
Here is an old article by Yograj ... really, God does not take away talent :D

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/oct/21yograj.htm

I breathe through my son: Yograj Singh

Faisal Shariff | October 21, 2003 11:26 IST

The Mohali Test match was very special for Yograj Singh, the man who made his Test debut against New Zealand in 1981 and then never played another Test for India. Twenty-two years later, his son also earned his maiden Test cap against New Zealand. Yuvraj Singh managed just 20 in his first Test innings, but those runs mattered much to his father.

In his own words, Yograj expresses what it meant to see his son don the Indian Test cap:

Today was a very emotional day for me. I don't know how many people will understand what I feel. Years ago somebody snatched my right to play for the country. I lived this game all my life and then someone who was afraid that I would take his place in the team snatched it from me. These so-called living legends took the life out of my soul. The hurt they have caused will go with me to my grave.

I have only bad memories of the only Test I ever played. I got [current India coach] John Wright out in my second over with a bouncer. I was fielding at fine leg when John Reid pulled Kapil Dev and the ball flew to me. I tripped over a slight bump near the boundary and the ball hit my left eye. Within five minutes I was bowling with one eye. I bowled ten overs with one eye.

On the third day I tore my neck muscles while doing push-ups and still faced Richard Hadlee with a collar. I was in hospital for two days after that. All I played was a day-and-a-half in that Test match. After that they chucked me out of the team, then the state side, and that was the end of my career.

I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

I had bought a suit and binoculars for my father in New Zealand hoping he would come in that suit to watch me play for India when I played at home. But it didn't happen. I burnt all my bats that day and said that my career has ended. Cricket destroyed my life.

Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him.

I didn't go to the stadium on Sunday [the fourth day of the second Test]. I will only go the day he becomes a legend like Vivian Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, or Clive Lloyd. I will wear the suit that I bought for my father to the stadium. And I wish all those people who ruined my career are alive.

He [Yuvraj] called me after the match [on Day 4]. He told me he was very disappointed and that he was desperate to make a hundred and help India avoid the follow-on. I told him that the ball that dismissed him was the only good ball [Daryl] Tuffey bowled all day. I think he batted beautifully. Had he stayed on for another hour, the New Zealand bowlers would have been in trouble. What I liked about him was the flag on his helmet. It shows that a man belongs to his country.

Yuvraj's mother is a wonderful person. I thank her for giving me Yuvraj.

My son will be a world champion. I breathe through my son. He keeps me alive!


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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2008, 03:04:34 PM »
Here is an old article by Yograj ... really, God does not take away talent :D

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/oct/21yograj.htm

I breathe through my son: Yograj Singh

Faisal Shariff | October 21, 2003 11:26 IST

The Mohali Test match was very special for Yograj Singh, the man who made his Test debut against New Zealand in 1981 and then never played another Test for India. Twenty-two years later, his son also earned his maiden Test cap against New Zealand. Yuvraj Singh managed just 20 in his first Test innings, but those runs mattered much to his father.

In his own words, Yograj expresses what it meant to see his son don the Indian Test cap:

Today was a very emotional day for me. I don't know how many people will understand what I feel. Years ago somebody snatched my right to play for the country. I lived this game all my life and then someone who was afraid that I would take his place in the team snatched it from me. These so-called living legends took the life out of my soul. The hurt they have caused will go with me to my grave.

I have only bad memories of the only Test I ever played. I got [current India coach] John Wright out in my second over with a bouncer. I was fielding at fine leg when John Reid pulled Kapil Dev and the ball flew to me. I tripped over a slight bump near the boundary and the ball hit my left eye. Within five minutes I was bowling with one eye. I bowled ten overs with one eye.

On the third day I tore my neck muscles while doing push-ups and still faced Richard Hadlee with a collar. I was in hospital for two days after that. All I played was a day-and-a-half in that Test match. After that they chucked me out of the team, then the state side, and that was the end of my career.

I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

I had bought a suit and binoculars for my father in New Zealand hoping he would come in that suit to watch me play for India when I played at home. But it didn't happen. I burnt all my bats that day and said that my career has ended. Cricket destroyed my life.

Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him.

I didn't go to the stadium on Sunday [the fourth day of the second Test]. I will only go the day he becomes a legend like Vivian Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, or Clive Lloyd. I will wear the suit that I bought for my father to the stadium. And I wish all those people who ruined my career are alive.

He [Yuvraj] called me after the match [on Day 4]. He told me he was very disappointed and that he was desperate to make a hundred and help India avoid the follow-on. I told him that the ball that dismissed him was the only good ball [Daryl] Tuffey bowled all day. I think he batted beautifully. Had he stayed on for another hour, the New Zealand bowlers would have been in trouble. What I liked about him was the flag on his helmet. It shows that a man belongs to his country.

Yuvraj's mother is a wonderful person. I thank her for giving me Yuvraj.

My son will be a world champion. I breathe through my son. He keeps me alive!


i am beginning to feel sorry for Yuvraj - what a basket case for a father!
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2008, 04:08:17 PM »
Here is an old article by Yograj ... really, God does not take away talent :D

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2003/oct/21yograj.htm

I breathe through my son: Yograj Singh

Faisal Shariff | October 21, 2003 11:26 IST

The Mohali Test match was very special for Yograj Singh, the man who made his Test debut against New Zealand in 1981 and then never played another Test for India. Twenty-two years later, his son also earned his maiden Test cap against New Zealand. Yuvraj Singh managed just 20 in his first Test innings, but those runs mattered much to his father.

In his own words, Yograj expresses what it meant to see his son don the Indian Test cap:

Today was a very emotional day for me. I don't know how many people will understand what I feel. Years ago somebody snatched my right to play for the country. I lived this game all my life and then someone who was afraid that I would take his place in the team snatched it from me. These so-called living legends took the life out of my soul. The hurt they have caused will go with me to my grave.

I have only bad memories of the only Test I ever played. I got [current India coach] John Wright out in my second over with a bouncer. I was fielding at fine leg when John Reid pulled Kapil Dev and the ball flew to me. I tripped over a slight bump near the boundary and the ball hit my left eye. Within five minutes I was bowling with one eye. I bowled ten overs with one eye.

On the third day I tore my neck muscles while doing push-ups and still faced Richard Hadlee with a collar. I was in hospital for two days after that. All I played was a day-and-a-half in that Test match. After that they chucked me out of the team, then the state side, and that was the end of my career.

I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

I had bought a suit and binoculars for my father in New Zealand hoping he would come in that suit to watch me play for India when I played at home. But it didn't happen. I burnt all my bats that day and said that my career has ended. Cricket destroyed my life.

Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him.

I didn't go to the stadium on Sunday [the fourth day of the second Test]. I will only go the day he becomes a legend like Vivian Richards, Sachin Tendulkar, or Clive Lloyd. I will wear the suit that I bought for my father to the stadium. And I wish all those people who ruined my career are alive.

He [Yuvraj] called me after the match [on Day 4]. He told me he was very disappointed and that he was desperate to make a hundred and help India avoid the follow-on. I told him that the ball that dismissed him was the only good ball [Daryl] Tuffey bowled all day. I think he batted beautifully. Had he stayed on for another hour, the New Zealand bowlers would have been in trouble. What I liked about him was the flag on his helmet. It shows that a man belongs to his country.

Yuvraj's mother is a wonderful person. I thank her for giving me Yuvraj.

My son will be a world champion. I breathe through my son. He keeps me alive!


i am beginning to feel sorry for Yuvraj - what a basket case for a father!


the better Yuvi gets..........Yogi will get more verbose and emotional...this is nothing! :icon_thumleft: :glasses3:
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2008, 04:18:14 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2008, 04:21:58 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
we need not be concerned or worried about Yogi's emotional status or circumstances. It is entirely his prerogative. I find no reason to comment or ridicule his own situation.
But, what really concerns me is the effect this over the top parenthood will have on a cricketing talent like Yuvi. Going by Yogi's interviews, it is actually quite possible for Yogi to have a negative impact on Yuvi.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2008, 04:46:48 PM »
I am sorry I don't consider throwing away a kids medals in some other sport or ridiculing that as a "girl's games" to be understandable in any way for a parent. Nor do I see this obsession to categorise Yuvraj as a legend very helpful to Yuvraj - at different times, it is bound to either give him a bloated head or put him under severe pressure.

No wonder Yuvraj decided to shift out and stay separately with his mom.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2008, 05:49:19 PM »
Yuvi didn't decide that...Yogi did
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2008, 05:52:47 PM »
I am sorry I don't consider throwing away a kids medals in some other sport or ridiculing that as a "girl's games" to be understandable in any way for a parent. Nor do I see this obsession to categorise Yuvraj as a legend very helpful to Yuvraj - at different times, it is bound to either give him a bloated head or put him under severe pressure.

No wonder Yuvraj decided to shift out and stay separately with his mom.

Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
we need not be concerned or worried about Yogi's emotional status or circumstances. It is entirely his prerogative. I find no reason to comment or ridicule his own situation.
But, what really concerns me is the effect this over the top parenthood will have on a cricketing talent like Yuvi. Going by Yogi's interviews, it is actually quite possible for Yogi to have a negative impact on Yuvi.

Both of you missed the point.

I didnt condone his behavior or said it was acceptable.

I said his behavior is a manifestation of his particular situation --which includes his understanding, his training (very broadly used) and his capacity to handle the situation which is obviously going to be much different than how you or I would handle the same situation.

Understanding the antecedents of his behavior is not the same as accepting the same or condoning it
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2008, 05:55:28 PM »
The acorn does not fall far from the tree  [god], old Jungle saying.
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2008, 06:35:36 PM »
Clips from Yograj's films:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/n9mVnt9chQ8&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/n9mVnt9chQ8&rel=0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/iimDRChaJuU&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/iimDRChaJuU&rel=0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/kpWXCGXDfyE&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/kpWXCGXDfyE&rel=0</a>

High voltage talent! Imagine what he could do to the selection committee!
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« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2008, 06:43:59 PM »
Wish he was there in selection commitee when GC was coach  ;D
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2008, 07:45:58 PM »
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I was born to my father when he was 72 years old. He was very dear to me and when he died because I was dropped from the team, it broke me.

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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2008, 07:47:07 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
Agree.. a bit OTT but understandable given his background
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2008, 07:50:36 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
Agree.. a bit OTT but understandable given his background
I don't know about the 'bit' part. I think his reactions can hurt Yuvraj ... certainly his comment about captaincy had a potential to.

In any case, do people know anything about his claims? Is there truth to his claim that Kapil ensured the end of his career?
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2008, 08:02:03 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
Agree.. a bit OTT but understandable given his background
I don't know about the 'bit' part. I think his reactions can hurt Yuvraj ... certainly his comment about captaincy had a potential to.

In any case, do people know anything about his claims? Is there truth to his claim that Kapil ensured the end of his career?

I have heard that.........during our times.
Infact, these 2 clashed over the same girl......Shabnam...captain of the PU women's basketball team......known more as Yuvi's mother.
Their rivalry/ friendship started from the days of their tutelege with DP Azad......................and Azad famously believed that Yogi was the more talented of the 2.............and I agree whole-heartedly.

I think, we missed out on a Md Nissar clone...with Yograj.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2008, 08:17:51 PM »
Jokes aside,

This is an understandable emotion from someone who was deeply hurt (and still carries deep scars) by the premature end to his career. And like every parent, they want their child to succeed in ways they couldnt. And like many  a parent, he has hopes of his child's success vindicating him.

I dont think anything above is hard to comprehend or empathize with.

Its his way of expression that comes across as somewhat brash, brazen and untempered. But then again, his expression is a product of his circumstances and background -- its unlikeley he will respond to the situation or bear with it as stoically or with as much dignity as we expect. Mileage varies with circumstance.
Agree.. a bit OTT but understandable given his background
I don't know about the 'bit' part. I think his reactions can hurt Yuvraj ... certainly his comment about captaincy had a potential to.

In any case, do people know anything about his claims? Is there truth to his claim that Kapil ensured the end of his career?

I have heard that.........during our times.
Infact, these 2 clashed over the same girl......Shabnam...captain of the PU women's basketball team......known more as Yuvi's mother.
Their rivalry/ friendship started from the days of their tutelege with DP Azad......................and Azad famously believed that Yogi was the more talented of the 2.............and I agree whole-heartedly.

I think, we missed out on a Md Nissar clone...with Yograj.
Rivalry and all is fine. The question is did Kapil politick to keep Yograj out of the team?
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« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2008, 08:32:23 PM »
from wiki~

Yograj made his first-class debut in the 1976-1977 season, representing Punjab cricket team and Haryana cricket team during his first class career. That year, he played for a Combined Universities team against the English cricket team (MCC).

Yograj made his first Indian team on the 1980 ODI tour to Australia for the Benson & Hedges World Series, which involved Australia and New Zealand. He had a modest record, taking four wickets in total at an average of 46.5 with his best figures being 2/44 on debut against New Zealand at the Gabba. He made just one run in his six matches, at an average of 0.50.

In the 1980-81 season, he was selected in the Indian team to tour New Zealand, playing two further ODI matches. Yograj played in the First Test against New Zealand in which he opened the bowling with Kapil Dev. He took the wicket of future Indian coach John Wright with a bouncer, but was then concussed when he missed an aerial ball which hit him in the eye whilst fielding at fine leg. After bowling for the rest of the innings with one eye, he was injured and did not bowl in the second innings, although he still batted at No. 11. He did not play International cricket again, and cited the fact that his father never saw him represent India in a home match as a factor in his death soon after. Yograj retired from first-class cricket in 1985, and cited his failed career as his motivation in driving and coaching his son Yuvraj Singh to become an international cricketer.

After his retirement from cricket he became an actor, appearing primarily in Punjabi films. He has appeared in about 150 films. He is best known as a villain for his performance in “Badla Jatti Da”. His son Yuvraj Singh is a current member of the Indian cricket team.

 
2004 Singh was sentenced to six months in jail for "negligent and rash driving" in respect of an accident in 2000 in Chandigarh in which a scooter rider was seriously injured. Yograj was one of the accused in Jessica Lal murder case, when the celebrity bar-tender was shot inside a crowded south Delhi restaurant. Yograj was alleged to have helped the main accused to flee, and later helped him to disappear for a few days.

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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2008, 08:45:39 PM »
I find it hard to believe that Kapil ruined Yograj. Kapil was never vindictive and he would have appreciated a good fast bowling partner from his same neck of the woods.

Yograj has a problem -- incidents later in life - two of which are detailed in the wikipedia extract reveal it. He seems to have channeled the enormous anger into his movie roles!

Yes god does not take away talent. He takes away balance - ask Yograj.  ::Whip::
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2008, 11:20:58 PM »
"Then God gave me a son in 1981. When he was one year old I thought I would take my revenge. My son is a very talented kid; he was very good at every sport he played, be it skating, tennis, or whatever else.

One day I told him, 'Son, how do you want me to live in this world with the same face if you don't complete my dream? I want you to play cricket for the country and complete my unfulfilled dream.'

Yuvraj realised what I meant. The whole house was changed. I built nets in the backyard, laid a cement pitch, and installed lights. I bought him a new bat every day. There are about 200 bats lying in the house and tons of gloves. I got plastic balls, with which current cricketers practise now, for him.

And then began his training -- six hours on the ground and four hours at home in the nights. People said I had gone mad. They said I was inhuman with my son. I was harsh with him, but not inhuman. But I did not want to miss the train a second time in my life. Yuvraj realised my agony; felt my pain. He knew I was rewriting my destiny through him."



he decided when his son was one year old that he would be his vehicle of revenge? what an inconsiderate clunkhead! he has denied his kid a normal childhood to "rewrite his destiny"?

omigawd, what if yuvraj hadn't succeeded in cricket? parents like this shd be locked up or at least kept FAR away from their children.

even for a hindi(dex, yes, also tamizh) movie, this is ridiculous.
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Re: Yograj Singh Interview - God does not take away talent
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2008, 11:23:12 PM »
Not revenge related .... but Andre Agassi's childhood was similarly influenced by his pappi. He claims he had tennis balls hanging over his crib and improved his reflexes right then!
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