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One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« on: October 08, 2008, 05:32:13 PM »
We did this for SRT here..
http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,7421.0.html

(dex, the related topics thingy works!!!!).

Can we do this for SG now..

Go ahead and post the one phrase that comes to your mind to describe SG's professional career
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2008, 05:36:27 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2008, 05:37:15 PM »
Depends on PoV. For the opposition "Dilli ka laddu". For the home team "member of the best opening combo in ODIs".
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2008, 05:37:29 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2008, 05:37:31 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2008, 05:45:25 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2008, 05:46:46 PM »
Depends on PoV. For the opposition "Dilli ka laddu". For the home team "member of the best opening combo in ODIs".
Prfsr sahib.. can give only instructions but not read them ;D

"one phrase that comes to your mind"
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2008, 05:47:56 PM »
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Use a single word plz...............Green ( this is for u)  :glasses3:
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 05:50:42 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 05:54:08 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.

Atleast he has the style and timing...which he can carry into his retirement.......unlike some others who have only defense. Once the defense is breached nothing remains.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2008, 05:58:34 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.
I did not just look at his batting.. as a matter of fact I think - results wise (and people will find 100 reasons - batting at low order etc etc - for this) - he was an average batsman. I was thinking about his leadership.. and as a captain he was an aggressive and most of the time given the lack of support system (mind you not players!) a solitary fighter. Frankly, you think "one thing" about Ganguly.. you think Ganguly the leader ..and the Lord's shirt-waving as his signature moment.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2008, 05:59:22 PM »
Green Wicketitus

Use a single word plz...............Green ( this is for u)  :glasses3:

Bau, yaar thoda reading skills pe focus karo. He said a phrase. Nahin to next Mod meeting main ask for a comprehensive english lesson from Dex and Kban (depending on the amount of time you have)
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2008, 06:01:14 PM »
Depends on PoV. For the opposition "Dilli ka laddu". For the home team "member of the best opening combo in ODIs".
Prfsr sahib.. can give only instructions but not read them ;D

"one phrase that comes to your mind"

But you see I can just as easily be on the opposing team. (E.g. With Virat Kohli and Srivatsa Goswami on the RC team I may not support KKR this year.  ;D)
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2008, 06:03:44 PM »
Green Wicketitus

Use a single word plz...............Green ( this is for u)  :glasses3:

Bau, yaar thoda reading skills pe focus karo. He said a phrase. Nahin to next Mod meeting main ask for a comprehensive english lesson from Dex and Kban (depending on the amount of time you have)

U could have saved a word for yourself.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2008, 06:04:53 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.

Atleast he has the style and timing...which he can carry into his retirement.......unlike some others who have only defense. Once the defense is breached nothing remains.
it is not about style or defense, it is about who delivered when the chips were down. This some other guy(RD) did deliver big time with career best performances and even won matches for us with his defense. If we are not in confusion about hard hitting being equal to hunting and if we correctly assume a Victory to be a hunt, then RD is a better fit for "Royal Bengal Tiger" phrase. 
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2008, 06:08:57 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
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Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.

Atleast he has the style and timing...which he can carry into his retirement.......unlike some others who have only defense. Once the defense is breached nothing remains.
it is not about style or defense, it is about who delivered when the chips were down. This some other guy(RD) did deliver big time with career best performances and even won matches for us with his defense. If we are not in confusion about hard hitting being equal to hunting and if we correctly assume a Victory to be a hunt, then RD is a better fit for "Royal Bengal Tiger" phrase.

Why did u bring in RD here? The question was abt SG...and someone said Royal Bengal Tiger............how is bringing in RD relevant here?
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 06:18:10 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.
I did not just look at his batting.. as a matter of fact I think - results wise (and people will find 100 reasons - batting at low order etc etc - for this) - he was an average batsman. I was thinking about his leadership.. and as a captain he was an aggressive and most of the time given the lack of support system (mind you not players!) a solitary fighter. Frankly, you think "one thing" about Ganguly.. you think Ganguly the leader ..and the Lord's shirt-waving as his signature moment.
I was looking at his overall performance, including captaincy & cricket. He fought and got the team he wanted and did show captaincy skills off the ground by making a fighting unit, but his on field captaincy & on filed play were average. Shirt waving doesn't impress me much. In fact, I remember many moments when SG the fighting off field captain was let down by SG, the on field captain & SG, the cricketer. Beyond Pak series in Pak, he was not able to take the team forward, lost a few matches because of insistence on parthiv patel. We lost many close ones because of lack on concentration on basics of cricket & too much reliance on instinctive play.

Now, all this is not to deny any credit to SG. He definitely was a great and gave me many pride moments. But, its just that I think this particular phrase is hyperbole & more myth not backed by actual results on the field. I consider him more like a Bull.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 06:22:40 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.
I did not just look at his batting.. as a matter of fact I think - results wise (and people will find 100 reasons - batting at low order etc etc - for this) - he was an average batsman. I was thinking about his leadership.. and as a captain he was an aggressive and most of the time given the lack of support system (mind you not players!) a solitary fighter. Frankly, you think "one thing" about Ganguly.. you think Ganguly the leader ..and the Lord's shirt-waving as his signature moment.
I was looking at his overall performance, including captaincy & cricket. He fought and got the team he wanted and did show captaincy skills off the ground by making a fighting unit, but his on field captaincy & on filed play were average. Shirt waving doesn't impress me much. In fact, I remember many moments when SG the fighting off field captain was let down by SG, the on field captain & SG, the cricketer. Beyond Pak series in Pak, he was not able to take the team forward, lost a few matches because of insistence on parthiv patel. We lost many close ones because of lack on concentration on basics of cricket & too much reliance on instinctive play.

Now, all this is not to deny any credit to SG. He definitely was a great and gave me many pride moments. But, its just that I think this particular phrase is hyperbole & more myth not backed by actual results on the field. I consider him more like a Bull.
OK.. and your one phrase is..
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« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2008, 06:24:10 PM »
Bengal Tiger - aggressive solitary hunter, rare and in decline
I find this really over the top hyperbole. He was a good cricketer and aggressive captain but this "bengal tiger" type of stuff never came out in his actual cricket except for one innings in Aus. For example, Steve Waugh would really stick around and fight around and saved many a tests when the chips were down. SG rarely did anything like that in his test career or ODIs. In ODIs , there is less chance of doing something like that since he was mostly an opener but test matches, he have had many chances to show his aggressive solitary hunter approach ( not exactly hard hitting but that never say die attitude, refusing to lose the match even when we are in serious trouble) but it was never really was visible.
I did not just look at his batting.. as a matter of fact I think - results wise (and people will find 100 reasons - batting at low order etc etc - for this) - he was an average batsman. I was thinking about his leadership.. and as a captain he was an aggressive and most of the time given the lack of support system (mind you not players!) a solitary fighter. Frankly, you think "one thing" about Ganguly.. you think Ganguly the leader ..and the Lord's shirt-waving as his signature moment.
I was looking at his overall performance, including captaincy & cricket. He fought and got the team he wanted and did show captaincy skills off the ground by making a fighting unit, but his on field captaincy & on filed play were average. Shirt waving doesn't impress me much. In fact, I remember many moments when SG the fighting off field captain was let down by SG, the on field captain & SG, the cricketer. Beyond Pak series in Pak, he was not able to take the team forward, lost a few matches because of insistence on parthiv patel. We lost many close ones because of lack on concentration on basics of cricket & too much reliance on instinctive play.

Now, all this is not to deny any credit to SG. He definitely was a great and gave me many pride moments. But, its just that I think this particular phrase is hyperbole & more myth not backed by actual results on the field. I consider him more like a Bull.
OK.. and your one phrase is..
Bull!!  :D
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« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2008, 06:27:16 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2008, 06:28:40 PM »
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Lion amongst bulls!
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« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2008, 06:28:42 PM »
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We'll have to leave alone Alan Lamb.............u can count the rest! :)
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« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2008, 06:34:15 PM »
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why pull down other great aggressive cricketers who played with him to prop up this one? to me AK is the most aggressive of the lot.
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« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2008, 06:41:33 PM »
OK, serious phrase for SG is
Sourav, a passionate, aggressive captain.

He is one guy who changed the way Indians play their game, our team's body language changed under his captaincy, that brashness, that confidence came under his captaincy.
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« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2008, 06:42:08 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2008, 06:45:07 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2008, 06:53:29 PM »
1. Capricious, pugnacious, persecuted.

2. Majestic Mediocrity.  ;D
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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2008, 06:55:13 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2008, 06:57:02 PM »
Lion amongst Lambs
why pull down other great aggressive cricketers who played with him to prop up this one? to me AK is the most aggressive of the lot.

I wasnt pulling anyone down.

Neither should you read his surroundings to be made of only players.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2008, 07:00:52 PM »
Lion amongst Lambs
why pull down other great aggressive cricketers who played with him to prop up this one? to me AK is the most aggressive of the lot.

I wasnt pulling anyone down.

Neither should you read his surroundings to be made of only players.
well lion amongst lambs will immediately make you think of rest of the team..if it is not the team, which lambs are you referring to?
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« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2008, 07:01:20 PM »
Okay the real epithet for SG:
"the reason CV exists".
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« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2008, 07:02:28 PM »
meilleur ke julius caesar

he uttered, "Et tu, Brute" three years before , Encore en vie( Still alive).julius caesar could not
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2008, 07:07:48 PM »
Lion amongst Lambs
why pull down other great aggressive cricketers who played with him to prop up this one? to me AK is the most aggressive of the lot.

I wasnt pulling anyone down.

Neither should you read his surroundings to be made of only players.
well lion amongst lambs will immediately make you think of rest of the team..if it is not the team, which lambs are you referring to?

Oh the team is included in there, but more in terms of a reference to his stature as a leader of men (compared to his peers) than to bring others down. yes, I do consider him to be a much better leader (not limited to being captain) than his contemporaries.

As for the surroundings -- the BCCI primarily, and here lamb is really not the word to use, but then again I was constrained to choose a phrase that reflected a myriad of things, so there it is.
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2008, 07:42:45 PM »
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2008, 08:17:40 PM »
'passionate' is my word!
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Re: One phrase to describe Ganguly!
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2008, 08:21:15 PM »
'passionate' is my word!
of all the words used to describe the man thus far on this thread to me 'passionate' best suits SG.

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