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More and his consistency- Yet another example
« on: March 22, 2006, 05:42:35 AM »
http://www.hindu.com/2006/03/22/stories/2006032219872700.htm

Extract:

Sachin Tendulkar was not offered for selection after being ruled out with a shoulder injury; did Tendulkar's withdrawal mean Sourav Ganguly was discussed? "We discussed a lot of names. Gautam Gambhir has been retained, he scored in the tour game. We didn't want to disturb the combination that won in Pakistan.

On Zaheer Khan, who has been axed, Kiran More, chairman of the selection committee, said, "his performances have not been up to the mark."

On Anil Kumble, More said, "he's bowling 40-50 overs every game and we need to look after him. No one is out of contention."


Can someone help me decipher this ?? GG scored in the tour game ?? So, is that a parameter for selection ??


1.The tour game,if he is referring to Pakistan was not a limited overs game
2.The performance of GG in the Pak tour is on record
3. No one is out of contention....Then what happened on the 'way forward'. And why the comment earlier that so long as this Selection Committee is considered, there is no 'looking back'
4.What has Venugopala Rao done in the recent past to be considered ??
5.How do Munaf and Venugopala Rao fit into the winning combination? Nothing against Munaf...But, is he saying that VR is a replacement for SRT ???

How I wish that the month following March is actually September. We can hope to have this joker out of the Selection Committee.

Footnote: And for all those so called "anti-gangulians" ,this is not a pro-SG or anti-SG stand but an issue of a Chairman's position being made mockery of. And a role that smacks of vendetta and vindictiveness.
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2006, 06:02:20 AM »
Ravi....this is very nicely written. I am wondering how com SG doesn't get a look in in the absence of SRT and with an injured and off-form Sehwag?
Is the malice and personal agendas bigger than the national cause?
SG is one of the greatest ODI player ever!
Can anyone challenge this?

How long do we have to suffer these buffoons and there lackeys?
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2006, 06:10:08 AM »

This has long been a matter of ego, not logic. The grand plan of looking toward the future simply has to succeed.
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2006, 06:27:27 AM »

This has long been a matter of ego, not logic. The grand plan of looking toward the future simply has to succeed.

When Ego and Logic clash, why do saner minds just ignore the happenings. Why does it not sink into people that cricket needs to win at all cost. Not personality clashes.

Given the English team in its current form and absence of key players, an Indian win is a given. Moreso because we are playing in the subcontinent in summer.

This would have been an ideal platform to bring back Kumble who is in great form ?
Why not Vidyut Sivaramakrishnan or Badani for that matter. Why go back to AA?? Why not VRV or Ranadeb Bose??

Or are we saying that we have identified the 15 for WC 07 ?? What are the contingency plans ? Did anyone foresee SRT's injury ?? Are we confident that VS will last till the WC ??

A one point agenda is all that is currently working. One point for the new management ....go after JD
One point for the Selection Committee ....don't go after talent and proven performers

Interesting indeed !!!!
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2006, 06:31:21 AM »

This has long been a matter of ego, not logic. The grand plan of looking toward the future simply has to succeed.

it has to be 'looking away from SG' more than looking towards the future!....in any case More doesn't have it in him to look towards a better future, even if aided and abetted by GC ( everyone cannot spot talent like SG).
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2006, 12:57:19 PM »
i think sg should be selected after setting all those maidans ablaze after being dropped from the team......What more should SG do ?? In the recent deodhar matcheds that he got to bat, he showed the will and determination to hang on. On nagpur's featherbed pitches, he did not get an opportunity. Why is he the only person being targetted ??

This entire thing is nauseating. Hope Indian cricket survives the Chappell storm

I'll not be on the DG till the time SG comes back to the team. If it means ne'er on the DG, so be it

 
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2006, 01:01:32 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2006, 01:06:06 PM »
Lets not bury Tommy yet. At least he has the guts to say what he believes in. Most of our fair weather Chappals are simply hiding in invisible mode (other than the ones who've decided to take a break), smiting the likes of you achu and myself while dreaming of new id's.
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2006, 01:49:46 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2006, 01:51:51 PM »
ok sarcasm i get it 8)
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2006, 02:19:16 PM »
I'll not be on the DG till the time SG comes back to the team. If it means ne'er on the DG, so be it

 
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2006, 03:00:52 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright

Hey Tommy boy...your sarcasm is not lost on me....And not to worry...I am back and intend to stay on just to take on the likes of you. You have no cricketing sense but pure venom and hatred for people who in your opinion have not contributed to Indian cricket.

And I am no Bheeshma....just a normal human being ..but with little or no venom for people.

This DG does not belong to you. There are some who have invited me back and I respect their views. That is it. And please maintain your stand. Don't break it like I did.  :D
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2006, 03:01:49 PM »
And to add....If you can quote my words verbatim....Well...I have made an impact, haven't I ???  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2006, 04:13:10 PM »
Ravi, the tour game in which Gambhir did well was against England where he scored a century. Just FYI. Of course, that wasnt an ODI either.

I think India willl have a few problems with Freddie and company. The white ball (and I dont mean Whites' balls although they did show more balls than they are known for) is known to swing and seam more at the beginning.
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2006, 04:39:45 PM »
i think at least this defeat will bring back some senses into the dumb head of GC.....and RD will probably use his own to make decisions...and let us hope we do good in one day series
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2006, 07:21:41 PM »
And to add....If you can quote my words verbatim....Well...I have made an impact, haven't I ???  ;D ;D ;D

ok next time there is bheesma pratigya we take it with a pinch of salt i guess....
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2006, 07:33:41 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright

Hey Tommy boy...your sarcasm is not lost on me....And not to worry...I am back and intend to stay on just to take on the likes of you. You have no cricketing sense but pure venom and hatred for people who in your opinion have not contributed to Indian cricket.

And I am no Bheeshma....just a normal human being ..but with little or no venom for people.

This DG does not belong to you. There are some who have invited me back and I respect their views. That is it. And please maintain your stand. Don't break it like I did.  :D

with no venom cool but you intend to take on the likes of me....and  that would be just a pious statement I presume
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2006, 10:03:31 PM »
Ravi, good to have you back. We may not agree on much (and may get into some battles) but running away from this DG isnt the answer.

Hope you had a good break.

Tom, let it go man. Good to have him back.
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2006, 01:34:47 PM »
Ravi, good to have you back. We may not agree on much (and may get into some battles) but running away from this DG isnt the answer.

Hope you had a good break.

Tom, let it go man. Good to have him back.

Thanks CP....but was not running away....just backed off to ensure that there is no provocative language or abuse is elicited. Also just charged up and here I am ....

And Tommy boy....Please take my statement with a bagful of salt...it was for people like you that the Mahatma marched to Dandi..... ;)
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2006, 01:54:17 PM »
that is deep.... ;D
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2006, 04:05:55 PM »
Thanks CP....but was not running away....just backed off to ensure that there is no provocative language or abuse is elicited. Also just charged up and here I am ....

Did not imply run away in that sense. Good to have you back. (Ok thats the last nice thing I will say :) )

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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2006, 07:37:38 AM »
Thanks CP....but was not running away....just backed off to ensure that there is no provocative language or abuse is elicited. Also just charged up and here I am ....

Did not imply run away in that sense. Good to have you back. (Ok thats the last nice thing I will say :) )



(Ok thats the last nice thing I will say :) )....for the day or forever ?? :)
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2006, 07:25:00 PM »
(Ok thats the last nice thing I will say :) )....for the day or forever ?? :)

See it lasted over 24 hours.

uhhh M U S T   A T T A C K  S G  N O W .......

Burp .. SG has worse SR than Shastri! Burp!

Feel much better now :)
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2006, 05:19:57 AM »
(Ok thats the last nice thing I will say :) )....for the day or forever ?? :)

See it lasted over 24 hours.

uhhh M U S T   A T T A C K  S G  N O W .......

Burp .. SG has worse SR than Shastri! Burp!

Feel much better now :)

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2006, 02:49:20 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright

well, a case of being selective like More, isn't it? I remember a lot of people announcing in the other DG never to participate in this blind pro-SG DG!!!
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2006, 04:54:06 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright

well, a case of being selective like More, isn't it? I remember a lot of people announcing in the other DG never to participate in this blind pro-SG DG!!!

a question for you bouncer :)
Have you heard anything about donkey-memory?
I thought donkeys have rather short memory! :)
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2006, 05:04:19 PM »
tombaan just for the record is that sarcastic or you mean it?


many have taken similar bhisma pratigya and been back....oops dang i was not supposed to be back..........this time i am gone till sg is back with wright

well, a case of being selective like More, isn't it? I remember a lot of people announcing in the other DG never to participate in this blind pro-SG DG!!!

a question for you bouncer :)
Have you heard anything about donkey-memory?
I thought donkeys have rather short memory! :)

but a selective memory? must be a hybrid of donkey+??   ;D
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Re: More and his consistency- Yet another example
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2006, 05:31:54 PM »
much of this 'love you More' brigade is suffering from short/selective memory this days!
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