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[WicketView]

yeah "height" is the right word.

btw i dont think being called one-tenth the batsman of dravid is too low a complement.

Oh, so even batsmen who should not make it to the Indian team (seemed to be your view about Badri, not mine) should still get decent compliments. OK

[keep-it-cool]

Marquee matches are rare in any case. A Ranji match was being played just before the squad was selected - and all eyes were on whether Sehwag will be able to make a case for himself - poor guy fell cheaply in the first innings and did not even come in at No5 in the second innings (in a chase of 51).

Anyway, I am glad, selectors do not share your view that performance in one marquee match is more important than cumulative performance over the season

You are glad is it?

Let us revisit some history. When Sehwag was recalled you said: "Veeru really did not deserve this call."
http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,13932.msg174057.html#msg174057

On the other hand I was clamoring for Sehwag to play in the series when people gave Sehwag no chance in hell to get a test in that series.
http://www.cricketvoice.com/cricketforum2/index.php/topic,14071.msg175986.html#msg175986

So should I now say that I'm glad that the selectors, in the case of Sehwag, did not share your algorithmic views on selection? And how bloody right I was that Sehwag should have got a game!

I'll leave the earlier part aside because it is anyway not going anywhere. You can hold that selectors are being unsystematic in their phasing out ... and I may not agree ... but that is moot as far as the choice between Badri and Kaif is concerned. Irrespective of who gets phased out first, one of these two has to be selected.

Coming to the Sehwag issue, obviously I was against picking him in the squad .. not because he failed in one match but because he failed in a series of matches before that ... you can look at the cricinfo records for that. I am glad to be proven wrong in

Badri / Kaif have had good seasons ... Badri has had more than one good season.

Therein lies the difference.

So, I am still glad the selectors do not share your logic of marquee matches being the only thing that counts for selection.

[keep-it-cool]

i dont buy into this theory of gradual replacement. they shud play as long as they can and want to. if all 4 of them retire at the same time and leaves us with 4 new faces, so be it. hard luck. we might suffer for a few games ...

Exactly ... I have been making this argument for a while too. It is a ridiculous idea to think that micro-managing the retirement of good players by throwing some of them out before their end and replacing them with less worthy players will benefit the team.

I disagree.

I see no reason to not plan for a situation where the entire middle order could suddenly drop off - either through retirements or lack of form - at one shot.

I mean, if anyone feels that a Badri or a Kaif cannot cut it at the international level even when he has three senior batsmen batting around him, with what confidence does one assume that he will cut it when he has three other rookies with him? At least in this scenario, there is a possibility that the three senior batsmen can absorb the impact of a Badri or a Kaif failing - just as they did in Australia, where Yuvraj failed. The advantage with phasing in youngsters is that you can easily figure out who fits in and who does not without materially impacting the strength of the side.

[gouravk]

yeah "height" is the right word.

btw i dont think being called one-tenth the batsman of dravid is too low a complement.

Oh, so even batsmen who should not make it to the Indian team (seemed to be your view about Badri, not mine) should still get decent compliments. OK

You got that from what I said ? Wow ! Ppl jump to conclusions ! Im not saying Badri should not make it to tine Indian team. All I am saying is as of now Ganguly deserves the spot more than Badri. Yes I am also saying that we should never expect Badri to be anywhere close to Dravid or be a long term #3 of Dravid's class but that is just common sense and anyone can see that.

[Blwe_torch]

Badri deserves a spot in the final 15.

[gouravk]

why 15 for a home series ? 13 or even 12 should be enuf ... 

[keep-it-cool]

why 15 for a home series ? 13 or even 12 should be enuf ... 

I agree. But that's how it has always been. Else, one extra batsman / bowler can always be relieved to play in the ongoing INd A NZ A test series

[justforkix]

why 15 for a home series ? 13 or even 12 should be enuf ... 

I agree. But that's how it has always been. Else, one extra batsman / bowler can always be relieved to play in the ongoing INd A NZ A test series

since domestics does not start till Nov 1, it does not really matter - if they are not in the team, they will be twiddling their fingers at home. So, they can select even 25 if they wish to