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[kban1]

ICC Awards 2008

Chanderpaul named Player of the Year

Cricinfo staff

September 10, 2008

West Indies' Shivnarine Chanderpaul has become the fifth player to be named as the 2008 ICC Cricketer of the Year at the ICC Awards ceremony in Dubai. Chanderpaul, who also made the shortlist last year, fought off competition from other nominees Mahela Jayawardena from Sri Lanka, as well as South Africa's Graeme Smith and Dale Steyn to take the top award.

India's one-day captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni won the ODI Player of the Year award.

India's flamboyant batsman Yuvraj Singh became the inaugural winner of the Twenty20 International Performance of the Year Award in recognition of his amazing six sixes in one over during the ICC World Twenty20 2007 in South Africa.

Sri Lanka's 23-year-old spin sensation, Ajantha Mendis, won the Emerging Player of the Year award. With his mesmerising brand of spin bowling, Mendis has exploded on to the international scene in recent months. In just three Tests against India in July and August, he claimed an amazing 26 wickets at an average of 18.38, rendering some of the best batsmen in the world strokeless.

Six countries were represented in the 12-man ICC Test Team of the Year and three players - Kevin Pietersen of England and the Sri Lanka pair of Kumar Sangakkara and Muttiah Muralitharan - also appeared in the World Test Team of the Year in 2007. Indeed, Sangakkara and Muralitharan also appeared in the 2006 side as well. Smith was named as captain of the team.

There were also six countries represented in the ICC ODI Team of the Year of which only two - Ricky Ponting of Australia and India's Sachin Tendulkar - also appeared in the 2007 side and only one - Brett Lee - made both XIs. Ponting was included in 2006 as well while Andrew Symonds was previously been named in the 2005 team. Ponting is named as captain of the team for the second year running.

The Australian umpire, Simon Taufel, was named as Umpire of the Year for the fifth successive time. Taufel, 37, received his votes from the captains of the ten Full Member nations, as well as the eight-man elite panel of ICC match referees. "I'm delighted to win this award but I don't set this as a goal at the start of a season," he said.

The Netherlands allrounder, Ryan ten Doeschate, was named as the Associate Player of the Year.

The Sri Lanka team were the recipients of the Spirit of Cricket Award for the second year running. The prize is presented to the team which, in the opinion of the elite panel of ICC umpires and match referees, has best conducted itself on the field within the spirit of the game.

ICC Test Team of the Year Graeme Smith (SA, capt), Virender Sehwag (Ind), Mahela Jayawardena (SL), Shivnarine Chanderpaul (WI), Kevin Pietersen (Eng), Jacques Kallis (SA), Kumar Sangakkara (SL, wk), Brett Lee (Aus), Ryan Sidebottom (Eng), Dale Steyn (SA), Muttiah Muralitharan (SL). 12th man: Stuart Clark (Aus).

ICC ODI Team of the Year Hershelle Gibbs (SA), Sachin Tendulkar (Ind), Ricky Ponting (Aus, capt), Younis Khan (Pak), Andrew Symonds (Aus), Mahendra Singh Dhoni (Ind, wk), Farveez Maharoof (SL), Daniel Vettori (NZ), Brett Lee (Aus), Mitchell Johnson (Aus), Nathan Bracken (Aus). 12th man: Salman Butt (Pak)

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/369196.html

[kban1]

ICC Awards 2008

Dhoni is ODI Player of Year

Cricinfo staff

September 10, 2008

 
India's one-day captain, Mahendra Singh Dhoni, has won the ODI Player of the Year award at the ICC Awards ceremony in Dubai.

Dhoni beat off tough competition from his India team-mate, Sachin Tendulkar, Australia's fast bowler Nathan Bracken and the Pakistan stalwart, Mohammad Yousuf, to take the prestigious award.

During the voting period, Dhoni played 39 ODIs and scored 1,298 runs at an average of 49.92 and at a rate of 82.46 runs per 100 balls faced. In that time he hit a century and nine fifties, making sure he led his team from the front.

Also in that time, in his capacity as a wicketkeeper, Dhoni claimed 62 dismissals (46 catches and 16 stumpings), which is almost twice as many as the next best, albeit having played more matches than any other keeper.

He is currently ranked No. 1 in the ICC Player Rankings for ODI batsmen. Dhoni said: "I would like to thank the Voting Academy for considering me to be deserving of this award. I am really happy to get this - it's a great privilege.

"Also, it feels great to know that I am the first Indian player to get this particular award and it's very special because now I am in the company of a lot of other good cricketers. Some fantastic players have won this award in the past and to be mentioned in their company is truly a humbling experience for me.

"I would like to thank the ICC, my home cricket board, my family, my team-mates and friends."

The ODI Player of the Year Award was one of eight individual prizes given at this year's ICC Awards. Dhoni also featured on the ICC ODI Team of the Year as picked by the ICC selection panel. The award was announced by Australia captain and two-time ICC Cricketer of the Year, Ricky Ponting.

The panel was chaired by the former West Indies captain, Clive Lloyd, and included the former Australia captain, Greg Chappell, the recently retired South Africa allrounder Shaun Pollock, the former Sri Lanka opener Sidath Wettimuny and the former Bangladesh batsman, Athar Ali Khan.

For all the individual awards (with the exceptions of the Women's Cricketer of the Year and the Umpire of the Year), a long-list compiled by the selection panel was forwarded to the 25-person Voting Academy made up of former players, respected members of the media, an elite umpire and an elite match referee. They voted on a three, two, one basis (with three being the highest value) and through that process the winners emerged.

The ICC Awards 2008 - presented in association with FICA - are based on the 12 months between August 9, 2007 and August 12, 2008. The LG ICC Awards ceremony is now in its fifth year and this is the first time it has been staged in Dubai, the home of the International Cricket Council. Previous ceremonies were held in London (2004), Sydney (2005), Mumbai (2006) and Johannesburg (2007).

http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/369198.html

[justforkix]

kban beats both poondu and KKK - now who's the biggest fan 

[Cover Point]

kban beats both poondu and KKK - now who's the biggest fan 

his inlaws are in town. Good reason to be busy! I was the busiest on the DG AND in cricket when MY inlaws visited 2 years ago

[kban1]

kban beats both poondu and KKK - now who's the biggest fan 

Wrong question --

I believe the greatest "Indian cricketer" fan tag still goes to Shri KKK 

[keep-it-cool]

Well deserved - both Dhoni & Sehwag.

I am not too sure about Yuvraj ... was the award for best T-20 performance? I read that he got it for the six sixes.

If it is for the best T20 player, I am sure there would be others better than him ...especially Umar Gul (who was great in the T20 WC) or apna Gambhir (who has hardly ever failed in this format).

[KKIRANK61]

Only 4 posts so far as 15/16 hrs have passed after the awards are declared, and had gone to MSD and YS and not to SRTs and SGs and RDs and AKs and VVSs ......
Two fo the posts from kban1 are a 'CUT PASTE' story and not a personal comment / post, other 2 are a light, non cricketing leg pull afairs.
So another proof / indication of life in future on this DG in the post maharathies era. A 'GANGULI drop (kick)' can generate 35 posts in same time interval of 15 hrs ( a whooping 150 posts in 3 days!! ); but 'MSD topping awards' be in 'khel ratna' or in 'ICC ranking' or in 'ICC awards ranking' stands 'no news' on this 'hard core cricket lovers' community' on this DG.

[kban1]

Only 4 posts so far as 15/16 hrs have passed after the awards are declared, and had gone to MSD and YS and not to SRTs and SGs and RDs and AKs and VVSs ......
Two fo the posts from kban1 are a 'CUT PASTE' story and not a personal comment / post, other 2 are a light, non cricketing leg pull afairs.
So another proof / indication of life in future on this DG in the post maharathies era. A 'GANGULI drop (kick)' can generate 35 posts in same time interval of 15 hrs ( a whooping 150 posts in 3 days!! ); but 'MSD topping awards' be in 'khel ratna' or in 'ICC ranking' or in 'ICC awards ranking' stands 'no news' on this 'hard core cricket lovers' community' on this DG.

Are you for real ?

The cut and paste was to let people know MSD won the award. That aside from being informational is a celebration initself -- As a hypothetical example, I could have chosen not to post it if I was not happy about it, and waited for you to post it on the DG and then claim:

"24 hours have passed and no one has posted this great news of my idol being feted by the ICC. Just goes to show how many maharathi worshippers are there on this DG" 

Besides, what do you want people to do ? Start arguing that he didnt deserve it when it was known all along that he was pretty much a sure shot deserving winner of the award ? 

And as to why the SG thread has more responses... SG was dropped, unfairly so. That generated controversy, hence more reponses.

I suppose your expectation is that your local newspaper should devote front page coverage to Sharrukh Khan's next blockbuster premiere opening when there is a bomb blast in the city at the same time too.

[KKIRANK61]

Only 4 posts so far as 15/16 hrs have passed after the awards are declared, and had gone to MSD and YS and not to SRTs and SGs and RDs and AKs and VVSs ......
Two fo the posts from kban1 are a 'CUT PASTE' story and not a personal comment / post, other 2 are a light, non cricketing leg pull afairs.
So another proof / indication of life in future on this DG in the post maharathies era. A 'GANGULI drop (kick)' can generate 35 posts in same time interval of 15 hrs ( a whooping 150 posts in 3 days!! ); but 'MSD topping awards' be in 'khel ratna' or in 'ICC ranking' or in 'ICC awards ranking' stands 'no news' on this 'hard core cricket lovers' community' on this DG.

Are you for real ?

The cut and paste was to let people know MSD won the award. That aside from being informational is a celebration initself -- As a hypothetical example, I could have chosen not to post it if I was not happy about it, and waited for you to post it on the DG and then claim:

"24 hours have passed and no one has posted this great news of my idol being feted by the ICC. Just goes to show how many maharathi worshippers are there on this DG" 

Besides, what do you want people to do ? Start arguing that he didnt deserve it when it was known all along that he was pretty much a sure shot deserving winner of the award ? 

And as to why the SG thread has more responses... SG was dropped, unfairly so. That generated controversy, hence more reponses.

I suppose your expectation is that your local newspaper should devote front page coverage to Sharrukh Khan's next blockbuster premiere opening when there is a bomb blast in the city at the same time too.

there is no blame to you here for cutpasting etc. ( u atleast had done that) the point is, it is such an inferior event to talk about for dgians. Had SGs RDs being rewarded in ICC awards; the reactions would have been different. I am not compelling anyone to praise my hero. Who cares evenif you dont? but the point here is my hero is always being looked down in the initial times ie till last year or so.( and many here kept arguing with me on that. the poor arguer that i am; use to get defeted on most occassions. as in case of good sales men who win many battles on their talk due to their 'sales talk skills').and recently of course there is less criticism alright. but not much praising talk yet as is seen otherwise in case of others (F4) . Evenif i get defeted easily in arguments, my hero is keeping the spirit alive by keeping the mouths shut for the defeters by his consistent good performance. I am more than happy for that. What is more required? bravo MSD.........KEEP IT UP !

[kban1]

there is no blame to you here for cutpasting etc. ( u atleast had done that) the point is, it is such an inferior event to talk about for dgians. Had SGs RDs being rewarded in ICC awards; the reactions would have been different. I am not compelling anyone to praise my hero. Who cares evenif you dont? but the point here is my hero is always being looked down in the initial times ie till last year or so.( and many here kept arguing with me on that. the poor arguer that i am; use to get defeted on most occassions. as in case of good sales men who win many battles on their talk due to their 'sales talk skills').and recently of course there is less criticism alright. but not much praising talk yet as is seen otherwise in case of others (F4) . Evenif i get defeted easily in arguments, my hero is keeping the spirit alive by keeping the mouths shut for the defeters by his consistent good performance. I am more than happy for that. What is more required? bravo MSD.........KEEP IT UP ! 

I think you have a very wrong idea about how people on this DG view MSD.

You seem to think that people do not like him or do not celebrate his good deeds /achievements.

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating. You are free to put that to the test by starting a poll about "favorable /unfavorable opinion of MSD" to test this out if you wish.

And thats why I think you are unnecessarily trying to portray MSD as the unappreciated hero for whom no one (other than you) cares.

[LosingNow]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

[kban1]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

Are you comparing MSD to Palin ? 

Personally, I think MSD has a lot more substance as opposed to the Palin hype

[LosingNow]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

Are you comparing MSD to Palin ? 

Personally, I think MSD has a lot more substance as opposed to the Palin hype

No, that 80% approval rating number is kinda stuck in my head.
--
On Palin's substance, only time will tell. There is too much misinformation (both praising and denigrating her) to form a firm opinion either way.

For now, I agree the hype is there ..but such is life in a 24x7 cable news, blogosphere world. She is getting eyeballs and everyone wants a piece of it. What is new?

[Cover Point]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

Are you comparing MSD to Palin ? 

Personally, I think MSD has a lot more substance as opposed to the Palin hype

No, that 80% approval rating number is kinda stuck in my head.
--
On Palin's substance, only time will tell. There is too much misinformation (both praising and denigrating her) to form a firm opinion either way.

For now, I agree the hype is there ..but such is life in a 24x7 cable news, blogosphere world. She is getting eyeballs and everyone wants a piece of it. What is new?

I have a 100% approval rating ON Palin. Have you seen the cans on her? Who wouldnt want to Pal-Lin her

[LosingNow]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

Are you comparing MSD to Palin ? 

Personally, I think MSD has a lot more substance as opposed to the Palin hype

No, that 80% approval rating number is kinda stuck in my head.
--
On Palin's substance, only time will tell. There is too much misinformation (both praising and denigrating her) to form a firm opinion either way.

For now, I agree the hype is there ..but such is life in a 24x7 cable news, blogosphere world. She is getting eyeballs and everyone wants a piece of it. What is new?

I have a 100% approval rating ON Palin. Have you seen the cans on her? Who wouldnt want to Pal-Lin her

Looks like you have reached home after a productive day

[justforkix]

there is no blame to you here for cutpasting etc. ( u atleast had done that) the point is, it is such an inferior event to talk about for dgians. Had SGs RDs being rewarded in ICC awards; the reactions would have been different. I am not compelling anyone to praise my hero. Who cares evenif you dont? but the point here is my hero is always being looked down in the initial times ie till last year or so.( and many here kept arguing with me on that. the poor arguer that i am; use to get defeted on most occassions. as in case of good sales men who win many battles on their talk due to their 'sales talk skills').and recently of course there is less criticism alright. but not much praising talk yet as is seen otherwise in case of others (F4) . Evenif i get defeted easily in arguments, my hero is keeping the spirit alive by keeping the mouths shut for the defeters by his consistent good performance. I am more than happy for that. What is more required? bravo MSD.........KEEP IT UP ! 

I think you have a very wrong idea about how people on this DG view MSD.

You seem to think that people do not like him or do not celebrate his good deeds /achievements.

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating. You are free to put that to the test by starting a poll about "favorable /unfavorable opinion of MSD" to test this out if you wish.

And thats why I think you are unnecessarily trying to portray MSD as the unappreciated hero for whom no one (other than you) cares.

don't be silly - why would one start a poll which will expose one's own fallacies . If you remember, there was another fallacy of KKK that the DG would cease to exist when the Ms retire - there was no response to my query of why not find out by starting a poll - why ? - because that will expose the fact that he is WRONG !!

The only fact is that KKK will cease to exist as a "cricket fan" if/when MSD starts underperforming and there is no other indian cricketer KKK likes.....

[Cover Point]

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating.

That is Palin's in Alaska

Are you comparing MSD to Palin ? 

Personally, I think MSD has a lot more substance as opposed to the Palin hype

No, that 80% approval rating number is kinda stuck in my head.
--
On Palin's substance, only time will tell. There is too much misinformation (both praising and denigrating her) to form a firm opinion either way.

For now, I agree the hype is there ..but such is life in a 24x7 cable news, blogosphere world. She is getting eyeballs and everyone wants a piece of it. What is new?

I have a 100% approval rating ON Palin. Have you seen the cans on her? Who wouldnt want to Pal-Lin her

Looks like you have reached home after a productive day

company ka ek aur merger ho raha hai. Stress level is high. Palin watching helps

[KKIRANK61]

there is no blame to you here for cutpasting etc. ( u atleast had done that) the point is, it is such an inferior event to talk about for dgians. Had SGs RDs being rewarded in ICC awards; the reactions would have been different. I am not compelling anyone to praise my hero. Who cares evenif you dont? but the point here is my hero is always being looked down in the initial times ie till last year or so.( and many here kept arguing with me on that. the poor arguer that i am; use to get defeted on most occassions. as in case of good sales men who win many battles on their talk due to their 'sales talk skills').and recently of course there is less criticism alright. but not much praising talk yet as is seen otherwise in case of others (F4) . Evenif i get defeted easily in arguments, my hero is keeping the spirit alive by keeping the mouths shut for the defeters by his consistent good performance. I am more than happy for that. What is more required? bravo MSD.........KEEP IT UP ! 

I think you have a very wrong idea about how people on this DG view MSD.

You seem to think that people do not like him or do not celebrate his good deeds /achievements.

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating. You are free to put that to the test by starting a poll about "favorable /unfavorable opinion of MSD" to test this out if you wish.

And thats why I think you are unnecessarily trying to portray MSD as the unappreciated hero for whom no one (other than you) cares.

don't be silly - why would one start a poll which will expose one's own fallacies . If you remember, there was another fallacy of KKK that the DG would cease to exist when the Ms retire - there was no response to my query of why not find out by starting a poll - why ? - because that will expose the fact that he is WRONG !!

The only fact is that KKK will cease to exist as a "cricket fan" if/when MSD starts underperforming and there is no other indian cricketer KKK likes.....

Kban1 / JFX: There was a poll conducted last month when it was very clearly prooved that the DGians here are strongly inclined for Ms. See the result below. The FAB4 s have got 25 votes ie 6.25 per fab as against 5 for MSD ( or 4- since one is mine) So what is overall felt after reading posts is already proved by poll. 
Question: Which amongst the current indian cricketers; you ADMIRE the most?  (Voting closed: August 16, 2008, 10:38:54 PM)
SRT  8 (21.6%)
RD  4 (10.8%)
SG  12 (32.4%)
VVS  1 (2.7%)
AK  1 (2.7%)
VS  3 (8.1%)
YS  0 (0%)
MSD  5 (13.5%)
HS  0 (0%)
GG  0 (0%)
RS  0 (0%)
IS  0 (0%)
ZK  0 (0%)
IP  0 (0%)
KKD  1 (2.7%)
OTHERS  2 (5.4%)
 Edit Poll 
Total Voters: 37
 
If i start a poll to find out an opinion about whether the DGians would cease to continue after Ms; nobody will agree to that. And as u say i will be proved wrong to the delight of many here. NOW- this  is because people FEEL that they will not leave DG that time. IMO they will. And that is what i am trying to support by the fact that all the latest events of MSD being honoured (twice- Khel Ratna and ICC ) had gone unnoticed on the DG. Few threads started and diminished fast ( as i expected) In 2007 when he left for england for the first time there was big discussion here about his success there in swinging conditions. The good success of his at that stage was criticised as 'sub continental dead pitch success'. Same story contined in australia. On both occassions the results were opposite of the general DG tune. In fact not a single one has forecasted MSD's success in the past at any stage and everyone argued against me. Two years back people here had stated that bowlers will 'FIND' him out as the time passes. His success is temporary etc. As it turned out; he is still maintaining his avg at 45+ even after 100+ ODIs.Many are still arguing with me about his worthwhileness. Other day someone stated that he is a batter of 3-4 strokes ! some say MSD is not still a test material.............and yet Kban1 you are promising me about 80% followers here ? A BIG FALSE JUDGEMENT IMO. !
The DGians may not admit their ceasing of existance in post Ms era. But yes I admit to your statement that i will cease to exist as a 'indian ckt fan' after MSD retires; as u rightly said [ however i will remain as average casual ckt follower at that time so that i can see another 'msd' comig up ) But it will not certainly be in near future.
IMO all are have a similar tendancy as stated above for mine. But for some reason people tend to disagree.
PAST BELONGED TO FAB4s but FUTURE IS CERTAINLY BELONGING TO MSD AND HIS YOUNG BRIGADE WHICH WILL BE "RESULT ORIENTED' AND NOT "RECORD  ORIENTED".

[pzd]

Was Mahommed Yousuf ommitted from the awards as well as odi/test teams because of his ICL links?

[Cover Point]

there is no blame to you here for cutpasting etc. ( u atleast had done that) the point is, it is such an inferior event to talk about for dgians. Had SGs RDs being rewarded in ICC awards; the reactions would have been different. I am not compelling anyone to praise my hero. Who cares evenif you dont? but the point here is my hero is always being looked down in the initial times ie till last year or so.( and many here kept arguing with me on that. the poor arguer that i am; use to get defeted on most occassions. as in case of good sales men who win many battles on their talk due to their 'sales talk skills').and recently of course there is less criticism alright. but not much praising talk yet as is seen otherwise in case of others (F4) . Evenif i get defeted easily in arguments, my hero is keeping the spirit alive by keeping the mouths shut for the defeters by his consistent good performance. I am more than happy for that. What is more required? bravo MSD.........KEEP IT UP ! 

I think you have a very wrong idea about how people on this DG view MSD.

You seem to think that people do not like him or do not celebrate his good deeds /achievements.

I am willing to wager that 80%+ have a favorable opinion of MSD on this DG, which is a pretty high approval rating. You are free to put that to the test by starting a poll about "favorable /unfavorable opinion of MSD" to test this out if you wish.

And thats why I think you are unnecessarily trying to portray MSD as the unappreciated hero for whom no one (other than you) cares.

don't be silly - why would one start a poll which will expose one's own fallacies . If you remember, there was another fallacy of KKK that the DG would cease to exist when the Ms retire - there was no response to my query of why not find out by starting a poll - why ? - because that will expose the fact that he is WRONG !!

The only fact is that KKK will cease to exist as a "cricket fan" if/when MSD starts underperforming and there is no other indian cricketer KKK likes.....

Kban1 / JFX: There was a poll conducted last month when it was very clearly prooved that the DGians here are strongly inclined for Ms. See the result below. The FAB4 s have got 25 votes ie 6.25 per fab as against 5 for MSD ( or 4- since one is mine) So what is overall felt after reading posts is already proved by poll. 
Question: Which amongst the current indian cricketers; you ADMIRE the most?  (Voting closed: August 16, 2008, 10:38:54 PM)
SRT  8 (21.6%)
RD  4 (10.8%)
SG  12 (32.4%)
VVS  1 (2.7%)
AK  1 (2.7%)
VS  3 (8.1%)
YS  0 (0%)
MSD  5 (13.5%)
HS  0 (0%)
GG  0 (0%)
RS  0 (0%)
IS  0 (0%)
ZK  0 (0%)
IP  0 (0%)
KKD  1 (2.7%)
OTHERS  2 (5.4%)
 Edit Poll 
Total Voters: 37
 
If i start a poll to find out an opinion about whether the DGians would cease to continue after Ms; nobody will agree to that. And as u say i will be proved wrong to the delight of many here. NOW- this  is because people FEEL that they will not leave DG that time. IMO they will. And that is what i am trying to support by the fact that all the latest events of MSD being honoured (twice- Khel Ratna and ICC ) had gone unnoticed on the DG. Few threads started and diminished fast ( as i expected) In 2007 when he left for england for the first time there was big discussion here about his success there in swinging conditions. The good success of his at that stage was criticised as 'sub continental dead pitch success'. Same story contined in australia. On both occassions the results were opposite of the general DG tune. In fact not a single one has forecasted MSD's success in the past at any stage and everyone argued against me. Two years back people here had stated that bowlers will 'FIND' him out as the time passes. His success is temporary etc. As it turned out; he is still maintaining his avg at 45+ even after 100+ ODIs.Many are still arguing with me about his worthwhileness. Other day someone stated that he is a batter of 3-4 strokes ! some say MSD is not still a test material.............and yet Kban1 you are promising me about 80% followers here ? A BIG FALSE JUDGEMENT IMO. !
The DGians may not admit their ceasing of existance in post Ms era. But yes I admit to your statement that i will cease to exist as a 'indian ckt fan' after MSD retires; as u rightly said [ however i will remain as average casual ckt follower at that time so that i can see another 'msd' comig up ) But it will not certainly be in near future.
IMO all are have a similar tendancy as stated above for mine. But for some reason people tend to disagree.
PAST BELONGED TO FAB4s but FUTURE IS CERTAINLY BELONGING TO MSD AND HIS YOUNG BRIGADE WHICH WILL BE "RESULT ORIENTED' AND NOT "RECORD  ORIENTED".

Kismat waali ho Kiran ki aapke yahan bahut protectors hain aur humari post asking about your standing behind your words is removed. Pehle to aap muh ki kha chuki ho Dravid ke haathon. Ab MSD se bhi pitna hai kya?

[OldPal]

NagmaJi,
Why are you after K3 ? We should be happy he is still posting and conveying his thoughts with the same passion. What is in name ? Most of the guys have a proxy name here. As per keeping the word. There are tons of threads full of contradictions. At least let the members feel some freedom on-line.

[kban1]

Kban1 you are promising me about 80% followers here ?  A BIG FALSE JUDGEMENT IMO. !

Kiran saab:

Please try to understand my statement

Having a favorable impression of MSD does not mean liking him more than any other cricketer in the world.
Having a favorable impression does not mean not criticizing him when required.

having a favorable impression means just that

-- admiring MSD's contribution as player to the Indian team, and
-- admiring MSD's contribution as captain

My request was simple -- Start a thread with the following question and choices in the poll:

Overall,
Do you have a positive impression pf Mahendra Singh Dhoni ?

Yes
No
Cant say

My take is that you will find 8 out of 10 people will respond "yes" which would prove to you that you are only imagining that people dont like MSD, your hero.

Thats all --take the poll challenge (its polling season anyways)

[KKIRANK61]

Kban1 you are promising me about 80% followers here ?  A BIG FALSE JUDGEMENT IMO. !

Kiran saab:

Please try to understand my statement

Having a favorable impression of MSD does not mean liking him more than any other cricketer in the world.
Having a favorable impression does not mean not criticizing him when required.

having a favorable impression means just that

-- admiring MSD's contribution as player to the Indian team, and
-- admiring MSD's contribution as captain

My request was simple -- Start a thread with the following question and choices in the poll:

Overall,
Do you have a positive impression pf Mahendra Singh Dhoni ?

Yes
No
Cant say

My take is that you will find 8 out of 10 people will respond "yes" which would prove to you that you are only imagining that people dont like MSD, your hero.

Thats all --take the poll challenge (its polling season anyways)

OK JI, Here i set in the poll as u say.
But if u see my comments, there are several examples showing that there is more of a critism than praise. Such people can still vote 'for' to give false positive impression.

[justforkix]

OK JI, Here i set in the poll as u say.
But if u see my comments, there are several examples showing that there is more of a critism than praise. Such people can still vote 'for' to give false positive impression.

since you are not going to believe the results of the poll anyways, it was pointless of you to start one

[KKIRANK61]

OK JI, Here i set in the poll as u say.
But if u see my comments, there are several examples showing that there is more of a critism than praise. Such people can still vote 'for' to give false positive impression.

since you are not going to believe the results of the poll anyways, it was pointless of you to start one

I had done it only after a repetative request from Kban1, in spite of answering him in details with examples about the futility of poll.

[kban1]

Kiranji:

Current results show 88% in favor   

[KKIRANK61]

Kiranji:

Current results show 88% in favor   

Which proves that poll results may not necessarily reflect true picture. That was the reason why i was reluctant to go for polls. The contents of most posts, the tone of most of the posts speaks opposite of poll results.

[inoc]

Kiranji:

Current results show 88% in favor   

Which proves that poll results may not necessarily reflect true picture. That was the reason why i was reluctant to go for polls. The contents of most posts, the tone of most of the posts speaks opposite of poll results.

KKK

I voted yes in your MSD poll.

I also did not vote for MSD in the poll you have highlighted here. My choice in that poll was based on the years of positive input and pure enjoyment that I got from my choice. (cant actually remember which one of SRT/RD/SG it was - they are so close in my mind that the line of thinking at the moment would have influenced the choice)

I am sure there are many more in this DG who would have done the same.

They acknowledge MSD for his performances but in choosing the player they admire most, chose one of the maharathis based on undeniable input to indian cricket - a fact even you cannot ignore and a choice which cannot be taken as a derogatory for MSD (as your MSD poll later proved) but a thumbs up for unprecedented long lived success as indian cricketers.

what Kban said may actually be true, you are reading the earlier poll result as a negative poll for MSD when in reality it is a positive poll for others for the decade+ contributions to indian cricket.

when the MSD question was put on its own (as Kban suggested) most of us here recognise his extra ordinary contributions.

'the player you admire most', is the first amongst equals in your mind, while a 'positive impression' includes one of several.