Topic: Premadasa: ODI3 Ind -Sl (Read 3365 times)

OldPal · « **on:** August 22, 2008, 03:44:03 PM »

Pitch:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/ground/59306.html?class=2;spanmax1=22+Aug+2008;spanmin1=22+Aug+1998;spanval1=span;template=results;type=aggregate;view=innings

While traditionally scoring, IMO ~250ish pitch in current scenario.

Q's:
Win toss and ?
Read a report of GG coming in, Who goes out ?
IKP: did not watch any of his 2 odi bowlings but still Is it worth to continue with him ?

Our concern is definately both batting and bowling, While in 2nd ODI we bowled good, In first we struggled to take wickets.
Thus deciding whether to go with 4 bowlers or 5 is tough.
In batting, both the times we struggled to score 150.
Hence may be more emphasis on batting, 4 bowlers may be way to go.

Preferred team:
I am confused, Taking IKP out of equation the batting line up seems weak.
Replacing him with a bat, leaves 4 regular bowlers.

If we play IKP , either SR or RS have to stay out.
What do DGians think about IKP in last couple matches as bowler.
Who should sit SR/IKP/RS ?

What about a team like this
VK,GG,
SB,MS,YS, SR, RS,
PK,HS,MP,ZK

gouravk · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2008, 04:36:02 PM »

irfan may or may not go out.he should definitely not open tho.

gouravk · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2008, 04:38:09 PM »

for the heck of it i might agree with your team

Cover Point · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2008, 05:10:39 PM »

Drop Rohit for this game. If they drop Badri then Lynch Dhoni

OldPal · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2008, 05:28:35 PM »

Quote from: Nagma on August 22, 2008, 05:10:39 PM

Drop Rohit for this game. If they drop Badri then Lynch Dhoni

Dropping Badri is out of question. Badri has given some hope of survival.
However the batting line up seems to be crumbling consistently.
I don't know if one more bat will help. I think this was discussed in the other thread, but why not RS plays while SR sits out.
I have not seen any of these(in currnet ODI series), but somehow am indecisive among the two.
If MSD is sure about IKP playing, then it may not be that tough.

Zacked · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2008, 05:41:10 PM »

is GG fit??

OldPal · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2008, 05:52:10 PM »

Quote from: Zacked on August 22, 2008, 05:41:10 PM

is GG fit??

The team management is hopeful of Gautam Gambhir recovering on time from the stiff neck for the Sunday's crucial game
from:
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1185028

gouravk · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2008, 02:24:16 AM »

never thot i would see the day when an indian team would be sweating on GGs fitness

broadbat · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2008, 03:58:19 AM »

Quote from: gouravk on August 23, 2008, 02:24:16 AM

never thot i would see the day when an indian team would be sweating on GGs fitness

Times change so do players.

justforkix · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM »

GG is fit and had a full nets session on Friday.

Also, indications are that pitch is spinner friendly. Another contradiction is ball is expected to move around under lights. So, play Ojha or a 4th seamer (MP/IP) or an extra bat? IP is slowly becoming an Agarkar - one poor ball every over !! If we go with 4 bowlers, do we have the part-timers to fill the 5th bowler? Yuvi is the only consistent part-timer. SR/RS/SB all supposedly can bowl - but can they relied on? Looks like we are missing Veeru as a bowler

. Also, MP looked quite ordinary in the last game. With GG back in the team and VK, SB and MSD among runs, IMO, it is ok to play 5 bowlers. And I'll play Ojha for IP. Since it is expected to swing under lights, I am tempted to pick RPS instead of MP because in terms of effectiveness of bowlers when there is swing in the air, I rank ZK>PK>RPS>IP>MP. Also, I felt RS looked better than SR in the 2 games.

So, I would bring in Ojha for IP, RPS for MP and GG for SR.
My team: GG, VK, YS, MSD, SB, RS, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha, RPS

gouravk · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2008, 02:15:23 PM »

the last i remember premadasa was a positively unsporting wicket ...

ramshorns · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2008, 02:24:41 PM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM

GG is fit and had a full nets session on Friday.

So, I would bring in Ojha for IP, RPS for MP and GG for SR.
My team: GG, VK, YS, MSD, SB, RS, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha, RPS

Badrinath should not bat below MSD, MSD's penchant for coming good while chasing notwithstanding.

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2008, 02:37:21 PM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM

GG is fit and had a full nets session on Friday.

Also, indications are that pitch is spinner friendly. Another contradiction is ball is expected to move around under lights. So, play Ojha or a 4th seamer (MP/IP) or an extra bat? IP is slowly becoming an Agarkar - one poor ball every over !! If we go with 4 bowlers, do we have the part-timers to fill the 5th bowler? Yuvi is the only consistent part-timer. SR/RS/SB all supposedly can bowl - but can they relied on? Looks like we are missing Veeru as a bowler . Also, MP looked quite ordinary in the last game. With GG back in the team and VK, SB and MSD among runs, IMO, it is ok to play 5 bowlers. And I'll play Ojha for IP. Since it is expected to swing under lights, I am tempted to pick RPS instead of MP because in terms of effectiveness of bowlers when there is swing in the air, I rank ZK>PK>RPS>IP>MP. Also, I felt RS looked better than SR in the 2 games.

So, I would bring in Ojha for IP, RPS for MP and GG for SR.
My team: GG, VK, YS, MSD, SB, RS, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha, RPS

solid lineup imo for a flat pitch - though parveen at 7 gives me jitters

LosingNow · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2008, 04:45:13 PM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM

So, I would bring in Ojha for IP, RPS for MP and GG for SR.
My team: GG, VK, YS, MSD, SB, RS, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha, RPS

I would never play VK ahead of SR..

jks61 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2008, 07:50:32 PM »

Quote from: ramshorns on August 23, 2008, 02:24:41 PM

Quote from: justforkix on August 23, 2008, 02:09:14 PM
GG is fit and had a full nets session on Friday.

So, I would bring in Ojha for IP, RPS for MP and GG for SR.
My team: GG, VK, YS, MSD, SB, RS, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha, RPS
Badrinath should not bat below MSD, MSD's penchant for coming good while chasing notwithstanding.

I am peeved that after all these years of waiting and after all these days with pads on waiting to bat when he is in XI, Badri's fate is still hanging by a thread. I doubt whether MSD has the guts to drop him and play RS ahead of him in XI but he can still ruin Badri's chances by batting him at 7...then, there will be some mysterious run out or a bad decision or some wierd delivery, then Badri will have to think of ICL

gouravk · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2008, 08:54:35 PM »

paranoia unlimited

justforkix · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2008, 03:05:08 AM »

Quote from: gouravk on August 23, 2008, 02:15:23 PM

the last i remember premadasa was a positively unsporting wicket ...

then your rememberence is pre-2000

Quote from: winningnow on August 23, 2008, 04:45:13 PM

I would never play VK ahead of SR..

Will you VK instead of RS then

Else, you will open with SR or RS ?!? Or maybe like Donny you will drop SB for RS/SR

LosingNow · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2008, 03:13:02 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 03:05:08 AM

Will you VK instead of RS then Else, you will open with SR or RS ?!? Or maybe like Donny you will drop SB for RS/SR

SR>>>>>>>>VK.. in any 11 today.

This lineup makes more sense to me

GG, IKP, RS, SR, SB, YS, MSD, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha . on a turner. Else replace Ojha with MP.

Actually any one of RS, SR, SB, YS can play in any position between 3-6. These 4 along with GG and MSD are the 6 best batsmen for this team.

Also, I think MSD should open if IKP has to be dropped for RPS... SB/YS can play the slog overs!

On second thought.. Yousuf Pathan would have been a great replacement for Viru.. he can open and bowl too. Virat Kohli is a seriously odd/misfit selection for this tour. They should have had SB in the first team and when Viru fell brought in YP.

ramshorns · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2008, 03:20:40 AM »

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 03:13:02 AM

Actually any one of RS, SR, SB, YS can play in any position between 3-6. These 4 along with GG and MSD are the 6 best batsmen for this team.

What an exciting four some that is. Young, talented and full of strokes. Add MSD and GG to that, now you are talking.

I really like this new one day makeup under Dhoni.

justforkix · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2008, 03:33:05 AM »

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 03:13:02 AM

GG, IKP, RS, SR, SB, YS, MSD, PK, HS, ZK, Ojha . on a turner. Else replace Ojha with MP.

Also, I think MSD should open if IKP has to be dropped for RPS... SB/YS can play the slog overs!

IKP is not bowling well. He is also rendered useless by making him open - so one of the 11 becomes wasted. The middle order in current form in this series becomes too fragile if MSD opens.

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 03:13:02 AM

Actually any one of RS, SR, SB, YS can play in any position between 3-6. These 4 along with GG and MSD are the 6 best batsmen for this team.

But in this series, SR is looking clueless so far and YS is a bunny against spin. So, YS can either bat at 3 or 6, nowhere else, definitely not 4 or 5. And is SR/RS a better bat than VK for this game... not so sure.

LosingNow · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:38:22 AM »

GG in for IKP..

LosingNow · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:40:03 AM »

india win toss.. batting

justforkix · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:40:35 AM »

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 08:38:22 AM

GG in for IKP..

5th bowler is Yuvi+Badri

- that looks quite dicey....

LosingNow · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:41:09 AM »

India: 1 Gautam Gambhir, 2 Virat Kohli, 3 Suresh Raina, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 Mahendra Singh Dhoni (capt & wk), 6 Rohit Sharma 7 S Badrinath, 8 Praveen Kumar, 9 Harbhajan Singh, 10 Zaheer Khan, 11 Munaf Patel.

Who will be the 5th bowler.. SB/RS/SR/YS?

LosingNow · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:42:58 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 08:40:35 AM

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 08:38:22 AM
GG in for IKP..

5th bowler is Yuvi+Badri - that looks quite dicey....

Yep.. 5th bowler will go for 60+

justforkix · « **Reply #25 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:45:18 AM »

Playing Yuvi at# 4 and Badri at #7 are both DUMB moves !!!

justforkix · « **Reply #26 on:** August 24, 2008, 08:46:57 AM »

Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 08:42:58 AM

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 08:40:35 AM
Quote from: winningnow on August 24, 2008, 08:38:22 AM
GG in for IKP..

5th bowler is Yuvi+Badri - that looks quite dicey....
Yep.. 5th bowler will go for 60+

that will be the game on a 225 pitch !!! we need to compensate for that by scoring 30 more than par score.

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #27 on:** August 24, 2008, 09:34:30 AM »

lovely shot by viral koli

justforkix · « **Reply #28 on:** August 24, 2008, 09:44:01 AM »

Kohli run out - attempted a needless run !!!!

Yuvi comes in - good move - yuvi can bat only at 3 or 7.

justforkix · « **Reply #29 on:** August 24, 2008, 09:46:22 AM »

Now Gambhir gone LBW - poor decision, ball clearly pitching outside leg !!

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #30 on:** August 24, 2008, 09:52:45 AM »

not looking good for us today

justforkix · « **Reply #31 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:13:14 AM »

Yuvi decided not to wait for his bunny to come on today

Badri comes in at #5..... 62/3 after 15

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #32 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:20:33 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 10:13:14 AM

Yuvi decided not to wait for his bunny to come on today

Badri comes in at #5..... 62/3 after 15

hehehe his name is subramaniam and they call him BAD

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #33 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:29:04 AM »

bad seems to be the fittest man in the team. built a bit like kaif

justforkix · « **Reply #34 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:44:52 AM »

Agarkar's record of fastest to 50 ODI wickets (23 ODIs) under threat from Mendis - Mendis has 25 wkts in 9 ODIs so far.

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #35 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:47:40 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 10:44:52 AM

Agarkar's record of fastest to 50 ODI wickets (23 ODIs) under threat from Mendis - Mendis has 25 wkts in 9 ODIs so far.

with an average of 9.9 and a s/r of 18!!!

though to be fair the majority of his matches have been against minnows like India and Pakistan

justforkix · « **Reply #36 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:49:53 AM »

Daimn !! Badri gone for 6 trying to hit Mandis over the top !!! Why play that shot when Raina is going so well at the other end....

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #37 on:** August 24, 2008, 10:55:12 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 10:49:53 AM

Daimn !! Badri gone for 6 trying to hit Mandis over the top !!! Why play that shot when Raina is going so well at the other end....

poor shot!

justforkix · « **Reply #38 on:** August 24, 2008, 11:16:21 AM »

Donny ON FIRE !! Looks like Mendis is finally having a bad game !!

dhruvdeepak · « **Reply #39 on:** August 24, 2008, 11:19:26 AM »

Quote from: justforkix on August 24, 2008, 11:16:21 AM

Donny ON FIRE !! Looks like Mendis is finally having a bad game !!

WHY IN THE WORLD ARE YOU TRYING TO JINX US

$:-\$

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