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Same as 2nd test

10 (31.3%)

Drop KKD bring PP

13 (40.6%)

Drop SG bring RS

1 (3.1%)

Drop both KKD/SG and bring PP/RS

8 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 32

Voting closed: August 07, 2008, 07:29:46 AM

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[LosingNow]

Vote away..

[achutank]

dropping RD/KKD should also be an option

[Libran]

I voted for PP in place of KKD

Reasons : KKD seems to be low on confidence behind the stumps and seems to even that out with an aggressive batting style that is not coming off.
Also, another left hander in the MO would be helpful... While Murali may nto have an issue other will  still need to change their line and that could add to discomfort

[Jaskaran]

Dropping Dinesh Kartik is an ideal option....I doubt whether Rohit Sharma will play Mendis better.

[Cover Point]

why zero votes for MR Duck himself. A zero and 16 in a match where one of our very own hit 200 tells you about the skill level of the player

[ruchir]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

[OldPal]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

[ruchir]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

[ramshorns]

Same team for me that won the 2nd Test.  For god's sake we won the 2nd by 160 odd runs.

If there is a series win then great!!!!!!

If not(if we lose the 3rd) the debate for replacements can take place later.

[gouravk]

the only reasonable change to ponder is KKD vs PP. I think no matter how much KKD sucked PP does not inspire any confidence, so same team.

[justforkix]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

[justforkix]

I voted for PP in place of KKD

Reasons : KKD seems to be low on confidence behind the stumps and seems to even that out with an aggressive batting style that is not coming off.
Also, another left hander in the MO would be helpful... While Murali may nto have an issue other will  still need to change their line and that could add to discomfort

Here is my problem with that: 3 of the 4 chances dropped by KKD were not straightforward ones, but catchable by his own high standards. I'm certain PP would have defintiely dropped all those 3. I rate PP's keeping even poorer than what KKD has shown in the last 2 tests and this is based on watching PP in IPL.

Also, KKD played as per instructions - AK revealed that the plan for VVS and SG to bat normally and KKD to be positive/aggressive. The aim was to get a minimum lead of 300.

[dhruvdeepak]

i think KKD has to go. no question. he is a replacement keeper and he is not doing his job. let's face it - no one is going to get an eye in as long as dhoni is this good.
so all the arguments about continuity etc are out of the window.
i am not too sure about PP's skills currently but he is in the very least, more confident than KKD at this stage and doesnt have the burden of having let his team down

as for RS/badri etc, i think it has to wait till the 1st Australia Test. may be we take a gut call at that point if/after SG or RD fails in the 3rd Test

[Cover Point]

all these kkd discussions do put Dhoni's keeping in perspective. U rarely hear about his keeping and for a keeper that is a good thing

[RicePlateReddy]

all these kkd discussions do put Dhoni's keeping in perspective. U rarely hear about his keeping and for a keeper that is a good thing

I don't know if Dhoni has been tested on a track like this, but your point still holds. KKD has slipped in what was his forte. His father should have hit him harder on the head when coaching him.

What really impressed me was Prasanna Jayawardene's keeping. No fuss, and gets the job done very well against the two best spinners. If there is one guy apart from Sehwag who has sorted out Mendis, it is him. With their reaction time and the reading of the ball that keepers develop, their batting can become a potent force. I think his batting (average currently in the mid 20s) is going to become ominous quite soon.

[ramshorns]

all these kkd discussions do put Dhoni's keeping in perspective. U rarely hear about his keeping and for a keeper that is a good thing

I don't know if Dhoni has been tested on a track like this, but your point still holds. KKD has slipped in what was his forte. His father should have hit him harder on the head when coaching him.

What really impressed me was Prasanna Jayawardene's keeping. No fuss, and gets the job done very well against the two best spinners. If there is one guy apart from Sehwag who has sorted out Mendis, it is him. With their reaction time and the reading of the ball that keepers develop, their batting can become a potent force. I think his batting (average currently in the mid 20s) is going to become ominous quite soon.

Prasanna Jayawardane is the guy I am most impressed with.  The stumping of SG in the 2nd innings was very good.  He kept very well to Murali and Mendis and was standing up to Vaas when Gambhir in the 1st innings was charging down in the initial phase of the innings.  He seems to have excellent reflex and timing while keeping.

[dlee1]

for discussion sake  even if srt looks in good form he is not scoring..so he is in the same boat as the others.and also if lets say srt doesnt score in the last test against sl then why shouldnt he be replaced?why r we getting only sg/rd in picture.srt is not above the game?or is he?
in reality i dont think we should be replacing them for now..and that too with rs!! he has been selected just on the base of someone spotting his talent but has not shown any temperement or played a good innings in the domestic scene.

[LosingNow]

all these kkd discussions do put Dhoni's keeping in perspective. U rarely hear about his keeping and for a keeper that is a good thing

I don't know if Dhoni has been tested on a track like this, but your point still holds. KKD has slipped in what was his forte. His father should have hit him harder on the head when coaching him.

What really impressed me was Prasanna Jayawardene's keeping. No fuss, and gets the job done very well against the two best spinners. If there is one guy apart from Sehwag who has sorted out Mendis, it is him. With their reaction time and the reading of the ball that keepers develop, their batting can become a potent force. I think his batting (average currently in the mid 20s) is going to become ominous quite soon.

Prasanna Jayawardane is the guy I am most impressed with.  The stumping of SG in the 2nd innings was very good.  He kept very well to Murali and Mendis and was standing up to Vaas when Gambhir in the 1st innings was charging down in the initial phase of the innings.  He seems to have excellent reflex and timing while keeping.

Prasanna was brilliant. period.

[OldPal]

all these kkd discussions do put Dhoni's keeping in perspective. U rarely hear about his keeping and for a keeper that is a good thing

I don't know if Dhoni has been tested on a track like this, but your point still holds. KKD has slipped in what was his forte. His father should have hit him harder on the head when coaching him.

What really impressed me was Prasanna Jayawardene's keeping. No fuss, and gets the job done very well against the two best spinners. If there is one guy apart from Sehwag who has sorted out Mendis, it is him. With their reaction time and the reading of the ball that keepers develop, their batting can become a potent force. I think his batting (average currently in the mid 20s) is going to become ominous quite soon.

Prasanna Jayawardane is the guy I am most impressed with.  The stumping of SG in the 2nd innings was very good.  He kept very well to Murali and Mendis and was standing up to Vaas when Gambhir in the 1st innings was charging down in the initial phase of the innings.  He seems to have excellent reflex and timing while keeping.

Prasanna was brilliant. period.

Hmm .. you have a . after  period    so who's next .

[justforkix]

As of now
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9 want the same team
19 want PP in place of KKD
9 want RS in place of SG

[LosingNow]

As of now
========

9 want the same team
19 want PP in place of KKD
9 want RS in place of SG

I think PP for KKD is a riskless move

[ruchir]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

[gouravk]

what ridiculous theories !

[arjunah]

Any change to the current team will be silly and I dont think will happen...may be PP for KKD but i still think KKD is a better bat down the order and the last I remember of PP that he couldnt keep on a flat track..forget about turning..

[gouravk]

PP replacing SRT as a batsman ! what a notion ! 

[ruchir]

PP replacing SRT as a batsman ! what a notion ! 

Who is doing that?

[ruchir]

what ridiculous theories !

You have anything better to say? 

[gouravk]

PP replacing SRT as a batsman ! what a notion ! 

Who is doing that?

You did !

[gouravk]

what ridiculous theories !

You have anything better to say? 

NO ! what can i say before ridiculism ?

[prfsr]

what ridiculous theories !

You have anything better to say? 

NO ! what can i say before ridiculism ?

By far the best one-liner from gk. One for the archives!

[ruchir]

PP replacing SRT as a batsman ! what a notion ! 

Who is doing that?

You did !

Where? Point it out.

[ruchir]

what ridiculous theories !

You have anything better to say? 

NO ! what can i say before ridiculism ?

Apology accepted.

[gouravk]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

Note the bolded part ... evidently you have dropped SRT, SG in favor of PP, RS ...

[arjunah]

it will look good to ruchir and to mahela

[gouravk]

and murali and mendis 

[kban1]

Ruchir = Mahela 

[ruchir]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

Note the bolded part ... evidently you have dropped SRT, SG in favor of PP, RS ...

Now, if you could take your head out of it's resting place, you could read more clearly.

SRT comes at #4 and I have RS there. SG comes at # 5 and I have PP there. Even in my previous comments, I clearly said RS for SRT and PP for SG. Maybe you didn't read that either. Now I know why.....

[justforkix]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

On the other hand, RD has never looked comfortable in any of the 4 innings he has played while Sachin has looked very comfortable. Add to the fact that Sachin had scored 2 50+ and 2 150+ in his previous series while RD has been averaging less than 30 for 2 years. Based on these two factors, odds of SRT coming good int he 3rd test are way higher than RD coming good. So, picking SRT over RD is really a no brainer if one was to pick only one of them.

[gouravk]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

Note the bolded part ... evidently you have dropped SRT, SG in favor of PP, RS ...

Now, if you could take your head out of it's resting place, you could read more clearly.

SRT comes at #4 and I have RS there. SG comes at # 5 and I have PP there. Even in my previous comments, I clearly said RS for SRT and PP for SG. Maybe you didn't read that either. Now I know why.....

ok ... that's almost as ridiculous !!!

[gouravk]

Need another option --

Drop SG, bring PP
Drop SRT, bring RS

Kya karen bhaiya... we can't keep waiting on the corners all our life for that one inning to appear magically. It's time to take a stand. With great risk comes great success. I would rather put my money on two youngsters, than put it once again on old failures. If we had a 3rd replacement bat, I would have replaced RD too.

If the switch is based on current form, then RD has to be replaced by RS and not SRT. SRT has looked in much better form in the 2 tests than RD.

Well, RD and SRT have scored about the same number or runs. I think SRT has scored 5 runs more that RD. Now, in the middle order, we need someone who can stay. SRT has not shown any propensity in staying on the crease, while RD has definitely played more balls than SRT. So, if RD can stay on the crease longer than SRT and score JUST 5 less runs, I would go with him. If our line up for 3rd Test looks like VS, GG, VVS, RS, PP, RD, KKD..... it will look good to me at least. RS and PP will have the buffer of VVS and RD playing before and after them. There will be someone to guide them.

On the other hand, RD has never looked comfortable in any of the 4 innings he has played while Sachin has looked very comfortable. Add to the fact that Sachin had scored 2 50+ and 2 150+ in his previous series while RD has been averaging less than 30 for 2 years. Based on these two factors, odds of SRT coming good int he 3rd test are way higher than RD coming good. So, picking SRT over RD is really a no brainer if one was to pick only one of them.

i cant believe so many of us are collectively wasting our brain powers on an issue that is really a non-issue. i dont think anyone even needs to contemplate dropping any of the fab 4 for at least till the end of the aussie series.