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« on: July 01, 2008, 10:57:38 PM »
Nuclear deal anti-Muslim: Mayawati


Giving a new twist to the ongoing impasse on nuclear deal, UP Chief Minister Mayawati termed the proposed deal as anti-Muslim, besides ruling out any possibility of the BSP forging a pre-poll alliance with the BJP.
 
 

 
"Muslims of the country are against India signing a nuclear deal as it is being done at the cost of cheaper gas available from Iran," Mayawati said while addressing mediapersons here on Tuesday.
 

 
She said Muslims are angry because the Congress wants to sign the deal with tacit support of the Samajwadi Party.
 

 
"The SP leadership is forced to support the deal as part of bargain to negate various ongoing CBI inquiries against Samajwadi Party president Mulayam Singh Yadav and his relatives and friends," she said.
 

 
The Chief Minister said her party was opposed to the nuclear accord.
 

 
She, however, cautioned Left parties to keep Samajwadi Party at arm's length as "its leadership could align with anyone for selfish reasons like protecting family members."
 

 
"Fearing Muslims would align with the BSP after the nuclear deal is signed, the political opponents like Congress and Samajwadi Party have spread a canard about BSP entering into an alliance with the BJP in the coming Lok Sabha elections," she said.
 

 
Clarifying her party's stand, Mayawati, who is also national president of the BSP, said her party had never contested an election with BJP nor would contest any election in near future.
 

 
She, however, kept mum over the post-poll scenario.
 

 
Mayawati said the Congress and Samajwadi Party were spreading a canard in this regard to create confusion in the minds of Muslims against 'sarva samaj' ideology of the BSP.
 

 
"These parties are upset over the growing popularity of BSP and spreading rumours in order to misguide the people of the State, especially the Muslim community which would never forgive the Congress and its allies if the N-deal is signed,'' she said.
 
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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2008, 12:06:05 AM »
haha .. the commies said the same thing  ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2008, 09:33:33 PM »
Muslim MPs, clerics oppose Mulayam’s N-move in UPFULL COVERAGE
   
 

A group of Muslim clerics met UP Chief Minsiter Mayawati on Wednesday to applaud her decision to oppose the nuclear deal. Samajwadi Party rebel MP Munnawar Hasan, along with a rebel MLA Gauri Shankar, declared that even if the SP issued a whip to support the UPA on the issue, they would vote against it. A third MLA, Qadir Rana of Ajit Singh’s Rashtriya Lok Dal, too joined the chorus against the deal.

The Muslim clerics included All India Muslim Personal Law Board (AIMPLB) vice-chairman Dr Kalbe Sadiq; Naib Imam of the Lucknow Idgah, Maulana Khalid Rashid; and other prominent figures. They had been equally vocal in support of the SP when it was in power, and had issued an appeal to voters to support the SP in the last assembly elections.

Though officially still in the SP, Hasan, who has changed party affiliations more than once, had recently announced his decision to quit the SP and join the BSP. The BSP has already nominated him for the next Lok Sabha elections. “Support to the nuclear deal is tantamount to back-stabbing Muslims. Muslims across the world are opposed to the US,” said Hasan, charging that the SP had compromised so that Mulayam Singh and Amar Singh would be protected from the CBI cases lodged against them.

“We are opposed to the nuclear deal and any party extending support to the Congress will be opposed,” said Maulana Khalid Rashid.

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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2008, 09:40:19 PM »
isnt this sort of insulting toward muslims...basically, saying that they're iranian first, indians second  ???
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2008, 02:37:31 AM »
isnt this sort of insulting toward muslims...basically, saying that they're iranian first, indians second  ???

Not necessarily insulting. It might be an accurate reflection that (a sufficiently large number) could be Indians while at the same time having their hearts bleed for the Iranians.

Have you heard about the Khilafat movement in India in the 1920s? Large number of Muslims in India were outraged by the British meddling with the Caliphate .... in friggin' Turkey! Thousands of people died in clashes in Kerala. Here is a Wikipedia extract:

Although political activities and popular outcry on behalf of the caliphate emerged across the Muslim world, the most prominent activities took place in India. A prominent Muslim cleric and journalist, Maulana Mohammad Ali Jouhar had spent four years in prison for preaching resistance to the British and support for the caliphate. At the onset of the Turkish war of independence, Muslim religious leaders feared for the caliphate, which the European powers were reluctant to protect. Ali and his brother Maulana Shaukat Ali joined with other Muslim leaders such as Dr. Mukhtar Ahmed Ansari, Hasrat Mohani, Maulana Abul Kalam Azad and Dr. Hakim Ajmal Khan to form the All India Khilafat Committee. They aimed to build political unity amongst Muslims and use their influence to protect the caliphate. In 1920, they published the Khilafat Manifesto, which called upon the British to protect the caliphate and for Indian Muslims to unite and hold the British accountable for this purpose.

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The Khilafat struggle evokes controversy and strong opinions. It is regarded as a political agitation based on a pan-Islamic, fundamentalist platform and being largely indifferent to the cause of Indian independence. Critics of the Khilafat see its alliance with the Congress as a marriage of convenience. Proponents of the Khilafat see it as a major milestone in improving Hindu-Muslim relations, while advocates of Pakistan and Muslim separatism see it as a major step towards establishing the separate Muslim state. The Ali brothers are regarded as founding-fathers of Pakistan, while Azad, Dr. Ansari and Hakim Ajmal Khan are widely celebrated as national heroes in India.


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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2008, 03:20:54 AM »
While the question remains whether (many) Muslisms (and Jews as well, but that's another topic) identify themselves by religion or nationality first...however, in most Western countries, I suppose, this question is not one that's often raised in polite circles by either the majority popular or the minority (in fact, save for certain groups like nation of Islam, most muslims in America would be (publicly, at least) outraged if someone called them sympathetic toward Iran. In India, it seems, it is acceptable and common for both the minority and the majority group to openly talk about pan-Islamic loyalties.
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