Topic: Asia Cup (Read 11099 times)

achutank · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:03:14 PM »

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 12:59:00 PM

..and another skier dropped.. this time Gambhir

2 drops in 1 over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

even ganguly and dravid don;t drop two catches in an over

LosingNow · « **Reply #41 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:07:25 PM »

From 87/0 in 20ov to .... 219/1 in 40 ov.. 132 runs in middle overs at 6.6 rpo.. PC 7.42, YS 7.0, ykp 6.0 ... no VS.. could be the difference maker.

LosingNow · « **Reply #42 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:21:13 PM »

PK goes for 2 4s by MY

LosingNow · « **Reply #43 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:24:45 PM »

sharp throw by GG.. benefit of doubt to Yousuf .. survives the run out

LosingNow · « **Reply #44 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:31:51 PM »

bad death bowling here by IS and PK.. where are the yorkers

Zacked · « **Reply #45 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:35:32 PM »

Stupid bowling... really crappy stuff....

Zacked · « **Reply #46 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:36:34 PM »

MoYo gone

LosingNow · « **Reply #47 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:53:49 PM »

Good last over by RPS

LosingNow · « **Reply #48 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:58:02 PM »

300 to chase...

82 runs in last 10 overs

achutank · « **Reply #49 on:** June 26, 2008, 01:58:16 PM »

yes afridi shaheed ho gaya - thnx to RP

maybe they may just be below 300

LosingNow · « **Reply #50 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:02:07 PM »

For Kic and Inoc.. here are the DL par scores and RRR at DL par scores

--
Target   300

DL par score
Ov/Wk   0   1   2   3   4   5
10   29   47   67   92   121   155
20   69   81   95   113   135   163
30   123   130   138   148   162   180
40   198   200   203   206   211   218

RRR at DL par score
10   6.78   6.33   5.83   5.20   4.48   3.63
20   7.70   7.30   6.83   6.23   5.50   4.57
30   8.85   8.50   8.10   7.60   6.90   6.00
40   10.20   10.00   9.70   9.40   8.90   8.20

---
Per DL .. even 113/3 is not a bad score at the end of 20 overs as the RRR is still 6.23. Preserving wickets while being below innings RR till 20 overs is fine.. but not till over 30. As the RRR can climb dramatically to above 8..which is risky no matter how many wickets one has in hand

LosingNow · « **Reply #51 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:12:29 PM »

IMO, while chasing 300 .. team chasing should score about 113 odd runs in PPs and can afford to lose up to 3 wickets if they bat deep.. any more runs or less wickets lost - good for batting side.. any less runs or more wickets lost - bad for batting side. I think RRR of 6-6.5 is chaseable in last 30 overs with 7 wickets in hand

LosingNow · « **Reply #52 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:13:40 PM »

Overall dropped catches and poor fielding cost us 20 odd runs

OldPal · « **Reply #53 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:17:09 PM »

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:02:07 PM

For Kic and Inoc.. here are the DL par scores and RRR at DL par scores

--
Target   300

DL par score
Ov/Wk   0   1   2   3   4   5
10   29   47   67   92   121   155
20   69   81   95   113   135   163
30   123   130   138   148   162   180

RRR at DL par score
10   6.78   6.33   5.83   5.20   4.48   3.63
20   7.70   7.30   6.83   6.23   5.50   4.57
30   8.85   8.50   8.10   7.60   6.90   6.00

---
Per DL .. even 113/3 is not a bad score at the end of 20 overs as the RRR is still 6.23. Preserving wickets while being below innings RR till 20 overs is fine.. but not till over 30. As the RRR can climb dramatically to above 8..which is risky no matter how many wickets one has in hand

Good job WN in posting these DL stats . actually they give us decent scores as you always want to maintaint these figures when chasing , and you want to win
The question is after 20 overs what is the preferance:

69/0 81/1 95/2 113/3 135/4 or 163/5

DL says if you preserve wickets even a score of 69 would win you the match.
It would be interestingt o see what does DL has for 49th over if no wickets are lost.

OldPal · « **Reply #54 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:24:01 PM »

Thus according to DL one shuld be able to chase at 8.85 RPO in last 20 overs with 10 wickets in hand.

LosingNow · « **Reply #55 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:24:06 PM »

Quote from: pankaj_t on June 26, 2008, 02:17:09 PM

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:02:07 PM
For Kic and Inoc.. here are the DL par scores and RRR at DL par scores

--
Target   300

DL par score
Ov/Wk   0   1   2   3   4   5
10   29   47   67   92   121   155
20   69   81   95   113   135   163
30   123   130   138   148   162   180

RRR at DL par score
10   6.78   6.33   5.83   5.20   4.48   3.63
20   7.70   7.30   6.83   6.23   5.50   4.57
30   8.85   8.50   8.10   7.60   6.90   6.00

---
Per DL .. even 113/3 is not a bad score at the end of 20 overs as the RRR is still 6.23. Preserving wickets while being below innings RR till 20 overs is fine.. but not till over 30. As the RRR can climb dramatically to above 8..which is risky no matter how many wickets one has in hand

Good job WN in posting these DL stats . actually they give us decent scores as you always want to maintaint these figures when chasing , and you want to win
The question is after 20 overs what is the preferance:

69/0   81/1   95/2   113/3   135/4 or   163/5

DL says if you preserve wickets even a score of 69 would win you the match.
It would be interestingt o see what does DL has for 49th over if no wickets are lost.

that is why I put RRR at DL par score in there.. imo, RRR with 30 overs to go should be 6-6.5 ..anything above gets tricky.

Bottomline: DL par score can say with 10 wickets in hand, one can chase a RRR of 8.85 .. but that is very risky imo. Use DL as guideline to where one should approx be.

For ex, in this chase we will be fine if we score 110-120 in PP even if we lose 3 wickets. Having said that.. we still will need to score 180-190 in the last 30. Just because we do well in PP does not mean we have achieved the final goal.. it is the right foundation... that is it

VMenon · « **Reply #56 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:28:07 PM »

SRI LANKA VS UAE

18 runs of the over
0.6 Kulasekara to Arshad Ali, 1 run, fuller on the leg stump, defends it to mid on and sets off for a single
0.5 Kulasekara to Arshad Ali, 2 runs, outside the off stump, Arshad comes onto the frontfoot and lofts it over cover, the slow outfield does not allow the ball to go to the boundary
0.4 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 run, outside the off stump, gets onto the backfoot and pushes it to cover for a single
0.3 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, on the leg stump, this time he pushes it down the ground on the leg side for a boundary. He is not going to die thinking
0.2 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, walks across and flicks it away down to fine leg for a boundary
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, on the leg stump, flicks it away to square leg for a boundary
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 wide, wide outside the off stump again
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 wide, begins with a wide outside the off stump

OldPal · « **Reply #57 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:28:42 PM »

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:24:06 PM

Bottomline: DL par score can say with 10 wickets in hand, one can chase a RRR of 8.85 .. but that is very risky imo. Use DL as guideline to where one should approx be.

Well it is fine till there. Now one starts scoring at 9 RPO from over 31 . Fielding side knows , they have to protect boundaries , While try to go over the ropes you lose your first wicket in 32nd over. now the required RR will climb according to D/L to over 10 . with each falling wicket your score goes below par.

OldPal · « **Reply #58 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:30:10 PM »

Quote from: VMenon on June 26, 2008, 02:28:07 PM

SRI LANKA VS UAE

18 runs of the over
0.6 Kulasekara to Arshad Ali, 1 run, fuller on the leg stump, defends it to mid on and sets off for a single
0.5 Kulasekara to Arshad Ali, 2 runs, outside the off stump, Arshad comes onto the frontfoot and lofts it over cover, the slow outfield does not allow the ball to go to the boundary
0.4 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 run, outside the off stump, gets onto the backfoot and pushes it to cover for a single
0.3 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, on the leg stump, this time he pushes it down the ground on the leg side for a boundary. He is not going to die thinking
0.2 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, walks across and flicks it away down to fine leg for a boundary
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, FOUR, on the leg stump, flicks it away to square leg for a boundary
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 wide, wide outside the off stump again
0.1 Kulasekara to Amjad Ali, 1 wide, begins with a wide outside the off stump

UAE knows they have to score upfront if they have to win

just kiddin .. this is also sign that wicket may be coming any time.

LosingNow · « **Reply #59 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:32:13 PM »

BEAUTIFUL COVER DRIVE by GG.. he does not have class ? WTF!!!

LosingNow · « **Reply #60 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:33:02 PM »

1.2 Sohail Tanvir to Gambhir, FOUR, lovely cover drive. He leaned well into the shot, head over the ball and caressed a delivery angling in to him through extra cover.

LosingNow · « **Reply #61 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »

Quote from: pankaj_t on June 26, 2008, 02:28:42 PM

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:24:06 PM
Bottomline: DL par score can say with 10 wickets in hand, one can chase a RRR of 8.85 .. but that is very risky imo. Use DL as guideline to where one should approx be.

Well it is fine till there. Now one starts scoring at 9 RPO from over 31 . Fielding side knows , they have to protect boundaries , While try to go over the ropes you lose your first wicket in 32nd over. now the required RR will climb according to D/L to over 10 . with each falling wicket your score goes below par.

Exactly.. that is why we should look at RRR along with D/L par score (which supposedly represents an "average" chase..calculated over a # of chases)

LosingNow · « **Reply #62 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:39:24 PM »

Gul gone.. appears like a sidestrain. pak one bowler short

LosingNow · « **Reply #63 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:40:45 PM »

HOLY CRAP .. CATCH BY MISBAH!!!! GG Gone

LosingNow · « **Reply #64 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:41:26 PM »

Looks like catches will make the difference today

LosingNow · « **Reply #65 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:42:18 PM »

Raina ..

OldPal · « **Reply #66 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:43:17 PM »

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:40:45 PM

HOLY CRAP .. CATCH BY MISBAH!!!! GG Gone

2.3 Iftikhar Anjum to Gambhir, OUT, Wow! What a stunner from Misbah at backward point. Supremely athletic effort from the acting captain. Gambhir had flashed a short-of-length delivery to left of Misbah who flew, his left-arm outstretched and plucked it like a mythical creature. A Youtube moment.
G Gambhir c Misbah-ul-Haq b Iftikhar Anjum 9 (12b 2x4 0x6) SR: 75.00

Zacked · « **Reply #67 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:44:43 PM »

good catch... chippak gayee in his hands... damn..

Zacked · « **Reply #68 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:45:31 PM »

Raina in...

achutank · « **Reply #69 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:46:37 PM »

G Gambhir c Misbah b Iftikhar 9

cometh the moment goeth the man

a God moment

LosingNow · « **Reply #70 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:51:36 PM »

Quote from: pankaj_t on June 26, 2008, 02:17:09 PM

It would be interestingt o see what does DL has for 49th over if no wickets are lost.

Dont have over by over D/L.. updated original post with 40th over par scores and rrr

OldPal · « **Reply #71 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:54:45 PM »

Quote from: winningnow on June 26, 2008, 02:51:36 PM

Quote from: pankaj_t on June 26, 2008, 02:17:09 PM
It would be interestingt o see what does DL has for 49th over if no wickets are lost.

Dont have over by over D/L.. updated original post with 40th over par scores and rrr

Actually i was wondering if they will have over 6 runs to be scored off last ball with all wickets in hand. But does not look like that. They should still have 1 Run to be scored off last ball.

LosingNow · « **Reply #72 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:57:23 PM »

2 beautiful 4s by SR

ganavk · « **Reply #73 on:** June 26, 2008, 02:58:40 PM »

Quote from: Zacked on June 26, 2008, 02:45:31 PM

Raina in...

Pinch hitter or is it the new number #3 ?

Zacked · « **Reply #74 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:00:43 PM »

superb batting... Raina looks in good touch

LosingNow · « **Reply #75 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:01:43 PM »

they have only 3 bowlers.. rao, tanvir and afridi.. Malik and Gul out. who will bowl the other 20.. Fawad?

LosingNow · « **Reply #76 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:05:21 PM »

50-1, 7.3 overs.. well above the par score of 47/1 needed in 10 overs

LosingNow · « **Reply #77 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:17:22 PM »

68/1, 10ov.. at par even if we lose another wicket

LosingNow · « **Reply #78 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:18:10 PM »

Afridi bowling in PP2

Zacked · « **Reply #79 on:** June 26, 2008, 03:22:05 PM »

btw my home team is doing well against lanka.... 83/1 in 15 ovrs

*Amjad Ali (lhb) 62 47 12 0 131.91

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