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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #320 on: July 06, 2008, 05:33:53 PM »
Mendis cant speak English.. no wonder SG didnt play him ;D ;D

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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #321 on: July 06, 2008, 07:57:18 PM »
If Ajantha bowls for KKR like this, IPL will be interesting!
Was he selected by KKR??

Why didnt the play him last season? What a blunder?

Mendis played one match for KKR
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #322 on: July 06, 2008, 07:59:23 PM »
If Ajantha bowls for KKR like this, IPL will be interesting!
Was he selected by KKR??

Why didnt the play him last season? What a blunder?

Mendis played one match for KKR
how did he do?
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #323 on: July 06, 2008, 09:45:32 PM »
If Ajantha bowls for KKR like this, IPL will be interesting!
Was he selected by KKR??

Why didnt the play him last season? What a blunder?

Mendis played one match for KKR
how did he do?

  BAW Mendis  4 0 24 1 6.00

he took wicket of Shaun Marsh
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #324 on: July 06, 2008, 11:00:42 PM »
another example of :

when you lose early wickets - you lose, more often than not, miserably.

despite whatever excellent RR you achieve prior to that.


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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #325 on: July 06, 2008, 11:21:50 PM »
another example of :

when you lose early wickets - you lose, more often than not, miserably.

despite whatever excellent RR you achieve prior to that.




also couldnt stop myself from using 2 words - inexperience and stupidity
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #326 on: July 06, 2008, 11:56:38 PM »
another example of :

when you lose early wickets - you lose, more often than not, miserably.

despite whatever excellent RR you achieve prior to that.




also couldnt stop myself from using 2 words - inexperience and stupidity

But they have fresh legs -- didnt you hear why the maharathis including SRT (on whose shoulders the CB Tri series was won) should have retired / been kicked out after the WC ??
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #327 on: July 07, 2008, 12:38:41 AM »
Back after three days of inaccessiblity to electricity and phones deliberately not used in dense forests.
Wish was there for more time to avoid  being :( and   :-[. watched the way Sehwag got out. What a hurry to get out.
endis really toyed with the batting line up . Head  is over shoulders, wished Dhoni had passed the message. But anyway well bowled Mendis. Showed Murli that bowling in pp's can also turn you a hero.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #328 on: July 07, 2008, 01:02:17 AM »
another example of :

when you lose early wickets - you lose, more often than not, miserably.

despite whatever excellent RR you achieve prior to that.




maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

also couldnt stop myself from using 2 words - inexperience and stupidity

But they have fresh legs -- didnt you hear why the maharathis including SRT (on whose shoulders the CB Tri series was won) should have retired / been kicked out after the WC ??
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #329 on: July 07, 2008, 02:32:59 AM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #330 on: July 07, 2008, 02:48:06 AM »
Frankly, Dhoni, Yuvraj etc are too old. We know what they are capable of. It is time to plan for the future, and Bring in Goswami, Debabrata Das, Saha, Kohli, Gupta, Patel, Doshi and Singh.

I do not have specific players in mind for the last 4 names but there has to be promising 15-year olds that have these surnames and would serve us well in WC 2015.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #331 on: July 07, 2008, 02:48:15 AM »
yes we were completely done in by mendis but still feel there were a couple of things that we could have done diff in order to be prepared for it(coz we knew before hand that mendis would pose a prob )
1.like i have maintained in the finals it being a pressure situation we should have batted first(agree we still would have faced mendis but i feel we would have fared better),also if i am not wrong sl have batted first in all their matches in asia cup and having them chase would have put them in a new situation.
2.y was ys sent in when mendis had just started getting thru the top order when we r clearly aware how he fares against spin.either rs/msd should have come to try and stem the rot.
3.i understand u dont need to change a winning combo but feel it would have helped if the captaincy had been lil more proactive here,in the sense that gg is a better player of spin than the others and it would have helped if he was shifted down the order to counter mendis and instead have ru open with vs, because in the middle order we had no one except msd to an extent who drew any confidence.
5.y r we keeping on taking irfan pathan.i mean he is primarily a bowler who is sucking these days and if we consider him as an allrounder then i am sorry for the indian team coz he is just not upto the mark.
6.also the very reason we gave for taking these youngsters was their ability to field well..well we all got to see how good they r?
7.finally one may agree or not after a fast start all one needed was to stay at the wicket which we couldnt,clearly proves that number one experience is a necessity and cant be substituted for so called relatively better fielding, and secondly our young guns atleast till now have proved that in situations where all they need is to stick their head down or show grit they fall flat.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #332 on: July 07, 2008, 04:07:11 AM »
Never a good idea to put your opponent in what is a final. Also having a batting line up that threatens to extend into the opponents XI is again a recipe for disaster than success.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #333 on: July 07, 2008, 04:12:10 AM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
Only SR and RS are the new ones here.right ? Sehwag, YS are quite experienced ( including IPK) and those also got out for some stupid shots..
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #334 on: July 07, 2008, 10:31:18 PM »
why do we care about a silly tournament with mainly minnows? however the final proves that dhoni as a captain has a lot to learn still and the youngsters cant play spin as that primarily requires technique and footwork...not only athletic legs..
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #335 on: July 09, 2008, 12:00:12 AM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
Only SR and RS are the new ones here.right ? Sehwag, YS are quite experienced ( including IPK) and those also got out for some stupid shots..

GG, RU/YP should be included in the newcomers, that makes it 4 out of 6.......
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #336 on: August 11, 2008, 08:51:20 PM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
Does this still apply after watching test series?
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #337 on: August 12, 2008, 06:17:09 AM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
Does this still apply after watching test series?

Yes it does.

I know you tape innings -- roll the tape and contrast the dismissals in the test series vs the Asia Cup final.

Except for SRT (who Mendis got once) padding up to a ball, each and every other dismissal of the maharathis -- Dravid 4 times and VVS 5 times were due to the bowler (Mendis) bowling good balls, not due to

a) rashness
b) stupidity in shot selection
c) impatience
d) all of which are encapsulated in one word - experience or lack thereof

I mentioned that any of the M's could get out to good balls from either Mendis or others, but what they would be least likely to do was gift their wickets away.

I choose my words carefully after some thought instead of typing whatever strikes my fancy at that moment. Rolling the tape should give you enough indications of where I was coming from  - I stand by my comments.
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Re: Asia Cup
« Reply #338 on: August 13, 2008, 03:36:48 AM »
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maharathis would have handled Mendis better? As if Maharathis never got out to good bowling

Maharathis may have gotten out to good balls bowled by Mendis or anyone else -- however, chances are they would not have gifted their wickets away through stupidity, impatience, and sheer lack of experience.
Does this still apply after watching test series?

Yes it does.

I know you tape innings -- roll the tape and contrast the dismissals in the test series vs the Asia Cup final.

Except for SRT (who Mendis got once) padding up to a ball, each and every other dismissal of the maharathis -- Dravid 4 times and VVS 5 times were due to the bowler (Mendis) bowling good balls, not due to

a) rashness
b) stupidity in shot selection
c) impatience
d) all of which are encapsulated in one word - experience or lack thereof

I mentioned that any of the M's could get out to good balls from either Mendis or others, but what they would be least likely to do was gift their wickets away.

I choose my words carefully after some thought instead of typing whatever strikes my fancy at that moment. Rolling the tape should give you enough indications of where I was coming from  - I stand by my comments.

but they did get out cheaply too didnt they?
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